Anna Lindner hadn't really considered that life would lead her here, on the other side of a phone, talking me through all the intimate, vulnerable ins and outs of her grief.
"I probably didn't think about this part," she laughs down the line.
But reliving her grief is something Lindner's done a lot since the death of her dad in 2017. Firstly, she wrote and starred in a TV show about it. That led to some pretty weird, meta on-set moments. And now she's promoting the show, which involves opening herself up once again about the hardest moments of her life.
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But for Lindner, grief usually comes with an accompanying friend: laughter.
Lindner's dark comedy series A Beginner's Guide to Grief arrives on SBS On Demand on September 4 (Father's Day, which feels both sweet and... darkly funny, considering the premise).
The show is semi-biographical.
Lindner stars as 31-year-old Harriet, who left her dream New York arts scholarship to return to her regional South Australian hometown after her father Nicholas' terminal cancer diagnosis. Later, her mother receives the same fate and dies just weeks before the show timeline.