Question: When two iconic magazine editors sat down together in a tiny podcast studio in the middle of Sydney recently, what did they talk about?
When Ita Buttrose and Mia Freedman recorded this episode of No Filter, nothing was off the table.
Radical celibacy. Being a single working mother. Eddie Maguire. Motherhood. Her pyschic encounter with Malcolm Turnbull. Julia Gillard.
And Botox, and why women should stop telling everyone they’re getting it:
Ita is an Australian legend. As the pioneering editor of Cleo, then the Australian Women’s Weekly, she changed the media for Australian women.
Now aged 74, Ita says she gets six hours sleep a night, still reads four newspapers a day, wakes up to the ABC radio news, watches more while she’s making her breakfast, and stays engaged all day with Twitter.
And when she met Mia, she didn’t shy away from any discussion. You can listen to the whole episode, here:
Mia asks Ita ‘permission’ to have Botox.
Mia told Ita that she frets about one day having to tell her daughter .
“You don’t have to tell your daughter.
“I do feel, with great respect, that a lot of younger women overshare. You don’t need to share with your children or your partner, there are things you just do because you want to do it, because they make you feel better about yourself.
“I do not need to share every aspect of my life (with my daughter). She’s a grown woman, she knows I’m there if she needs me… I am a grown woman and I don’t have to ask anyone’s permission for anything I want to do. Whatever I want to do, I do it.”
Ita doesn’t own a single pair. Obviously.
"I don't think I ever get lonely because I'm so busy... The best part of (living by yourself) is doing whatever I want to do. If I don't want to cook a dinner and just have a sandwich, I can. If I want to watch a movie I've watched a thousand times, I can."