When Malcolm Turnbull rose to the top job, he took with him the hopes of the LGBTI community who thought that having a Prime Minister vocally in support of marriage equality could only mean one thing: We might finally achieve marriage equality.
Soon after taking over from Tony Abbott, Turnbull assured voters that the planned plebiscite would go ahead (though not until after the next election) and that his government would “abide by the decision made by the Australian people”.
Anyone who said otherwise, he told parliament in October, was “not living in the real world”.
“When the Australian people make their decision, that decision will stick,” he said.
“It will be decisive. It will be respected by this government and by this parliament and this nation.”
But the thing about plebiscites is — I mean, aside from the whopping $160 million cost involved in holding one — that they aren’t at all binding, for laws to change, the parliament must achieve a majority vote to alter legislation.
A point which conservative senator Eric Abetz underlined yesterday when he hinted that Coalition MPs won’t necessarily vote in favour of same-sex marriage regardless of which way the public vote swings (*cough* around 70% will probably be voting ‘yes’).
“I would need to determine whether [the plebiscite] really is an accurate reflection [of the national view], whether it is all above board or whether the question is stacked, whether all sides received public funding,” he told Guardian Australia.
“It would be up to each member to decide whether the plebiscite accurately reflects the views of the Australian people, whether it reflects the views of their electorates and whether it is good or bad public policy in their view.”
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I've asked this question on a number of websites and no one will answer for me, but a friend of mine is absolutely insistent that other than the piece of paper that gay couples and defactos have exactly the same rights as married couples.
She's actually against all marriage as she figures it's just a piece of paper set up by religions so she doesn't understand why gay people are fighting for rights that they already have except that they can't use the word marriage. She thinks they are fighting for the right to be "equal" but it's really just a religious law, and instead they should be rejecting marriage instead of trying to be part of the "establishment" that was set up by religion.
I'm not against marriage myself but I kind of see her point. It's made me think it's a lot of effort to be fighting for something if gay people already have all the same rights as married people but without the piece of paper, but I don't know if she's right about this, can anyone advise me do gay and defacto couples have all the same rights as married couples in Australia, and if not what is different?
In response to this comment and your previous one:
1) Gillard's argument was that in her uni day's, the movement was about equal rights for LGBT people, whereas today it has been reduced down to marriage equality only. Of course, the real reason was politically it was better for her not to support gay marriage and she admitted this in her book. At least post politics, she now openly supports marriage equality.
2) Marriage equality is about allowing people of the same-sex getting married legally in Australia. Sexual orientation is not a choice, hence, it's discriminatory to not allow people to get married based on this reason. In contrast, polygamy is a choice. That's the key difference.
3) As far as I know, defacto couples in Australia, do have the same rights as married couples. Marriage is not strictly tied to religion, and many couples do have marriages without any religious influence. Everyone has their own reasons, but at the end of the day, it comes back to the basic human principle of the right to self-determination. People should have the right to get married, regardless of sexual orientation.
4) Lastly, as you said yourself, you're not against gay marriage, and your friend is indifferent to marriage altogether. So why put time and energy into not allowing some people to get married, when it's not even important to you in the first place? (Not directed at you but people with your position).
I had a plebiscite once, but got it lanced!