Surely there is a bit of middle ground between naked house and puritanical opposition to nudity....
Doesn’t sound like anyone here hasn’t much of a moral standard.
Are you still thinking we need total lockdown? Or maybe that a little more freedom might be doable?
He left it a bit late though!
With the cruise ships he’s damned either way.
From a humanitarian perspective sending them away is unthinkable (where would we send them?); bringing them here is potentially endangering the lives of Australians.
The point is that the balance of experts currently don’t think that hard and fast “has to be”.
The hairdresser thing - I think he’s trying to allow as many people as possible to keep their jobs. So viewing from a business perspective, not from a person desiring a hair cut perspective. Ultimately though, I don’t think we need to understand the “why” of these rules, we just have to abide by them as best we can and thank our lucky stars it isn’t our job to come up with the rules
NZ may be looking at a level of lockdown and closed borders until a vaccine is available. Does that appeal to many people?
I know - NZ might have to close their borders until a vaccine is available! Crazy
He also appointed other panels to advise. Go8 were just one of three or four. And the Go8 were not in unanimous agreement.
It wasn’t unanimous advice from Go8 unis and there are other people involved in consulting as well. He acted on the balance of advice.
If you want to lock yourself down then I don’t think there is anything preventing anyone
Maybe all the people who think we should be totally locked down could just impose that on themselves without waiting/ needing to be told. I think everyone is underestimating how difficult life is going to be for the next few months.
I am not a fan of the PM but I can’t believe he is not acting in good faith and with the desire to save as many lives as possible.
But they won’t be infecting anyone at present because the virus is still in a miniscule and statistically insignificant numbers of schools. There is very little evidence of community transmission *as yet* which is why schools are safe to attend at the moment.
If we rush into shutting things down, we make it drag on longer. There is still plenty of capacity in our health system. We have 11 serious cases. Seriously draconian measures would be required to fully clamp down and it simply makes more sense to let things follow a certain type of trajectory. Which is why schools are safe to attend at the moment. If they are shut down after the easter break, the shutdown will be shorter.
I think it’s because of the demographic who read this website. Teachers are more or less white collar professionals and so there is more of a chance of readers identifying with them than (say) the supermarket check out operator or the bus driver - both of whom are far more at risk. But yes, teachers are certainly not coming over very well with all these stories. *everyone* is being called to go above and beyond.
It sounds a little like you are saying there are very few men providing essential services. I’d be very surprised if that were the case. Teachers and nurses are probably overwhelmingly female. Other positions not so much
He’s probably also thinking of supermarket workers, emergency services, cleaning staff, maintenance and IT
But we know that people in schools are responsible for the least numbers of hospital beds needed.
And even though MM readers may not know anyone, there are many AUstralian households without internet access for their kids to learn online. And these are already the most economically and educationally disadvantaged kids in the country. Think what six months without school will do.
Because some kids have year 12 exams to do?
I imagine that children in school will be at an educational advantage. Nothing compares with being in the room with instructors.
Perhaps the MSM could quit pushing the panic button so hard that people feel they have no choice but to selfishly stockpile?
Perhaps the MSM could find experts to interview sanely and explain clearly why our solutions have to be long-term sustainable.
The situation is insane. In our tiny primary school parents have pulled their kids out of school even though we have zero evidence of community transmission within I don’t know how many hundred kms. Even though one person under 20 has died from however many hundred thousand cases (and that person had a comorbidity factor).
I am no fan of the PM, but his comments regarding stockpiling are spot on.
The main thing we need to do is not rely on the words of others to validate our opinions and feelings. Sure it’s nice if people agree or support us, but this can’t be the yardstick for whether or not something is right for us. Work on knowing what you want and following it through confidently. This way the opinion of someone else is water off a duck’s back. If you have to engage, turn the questions around - chances are that the comment-y person is wanting you to validate what they chose to do. If you have the mental energy, support and encourage them, because that is probably what they need.
You left out Israel Folau and the PM. Love them or hate them, there’s a lot of vitriole aimed at them. I think it’s important not to only be decent towards the people we sympathise with.