Trump has a good point in that Biden already has decades in politics, why couldn't he do the stuff he wanted to get done?

@david s He hasn't started a war, and it looks like he has made some progress in the Middle East. 

@guest2 I don't think it's the groups of people that are the issue. 

@michael nominees for the Nobel peace prize not generally known for starting wars. 

@guest2 The economy was doing pretty well except for the last 6 months. 

I think Trump's going to win, there will be support from the middle classes coming out to push him over the top in the states he needs. 

@laura__palmer Careful, your privilege is showing.

@laura__palmer the people who live in poverty in Australia do pretty well in world terms. 

@guest2 Even compared to other developed countries Australia is in a pretty good position. 

@laura__palmer that's true, though it's the same at the other end of the scale too. 

@cat being wealthy / rich is not a matter of income. It's a matter of assets. 

@rush that's a good one. 

So, according to the other story, none of this was gaslighting and he was more or less in the right?

I didn't love the book, but might have to give the series a go, see how they've updated it. 

There's a very interesting article on the Law Society Journal from 1st September about this. 

cat And there's a bunch academics who say that it's not the same. 

cat, not that reasonable. One is for the most part changeable, the other isn't. 

@laura__palmer As a general rule, facts don't care about political persuasion. There's a reason I don't generally talk political parties, it doesn't particular interest me. 

At the very least she's guilty of a gross conflict of interest. 

Cat, so we can say that about any group who's fringe members don't represent the whole group? The police in America for example?