@saggie and @Claire.M I'm not wanting to inflame the situation or be a smart alec. But I'm guessing you ladies are under 40? None of what I am about to say is having a go - I'm doing my best to write in a way that properly conveys my message, which is honestly, being kind. I can see why @Pippa's comment, was a little unlcear and I can see why you have been confused. But, I think she's on our side. I am being honest when I say this - at 51 I am blown away and thrilled, that FINALLY in my lifetime we are all demanding and calling out awful, cruel and abusive behaviour. I could only dream of how things are now with respect to family or any other kind of violence or abuse when I was being beat to within an inch of my life as a child. But, I also see a lot of younger people, jumping the gun. I too had to re read @Pippa's comment, but honestely and kindly, you both would have done well to re read her comment also. And, I must say @saggie, you are doing a lot of finger pointing when all you had to do was ask her to clarifty. In all honesty, you sound like one of those MIL's except, I know you mean well. Life is too short to get into online arguments, it sucks but the written word so easily can come off sounding the opposite, to what the OP meant. It's happened to me, I mean well, but come off sounding like I'm the turd. Take it a little easier sister, truly I mean this with all kindness. Stay cool and lets all back our sisters, not tear them down. At least, not too quickly.

Pippa. I understood your point. You were agreeing with the article, just making the point that it's not just mothers of men, it's mothers/fathers of women too. I get you. To the people who thought PIPPA was having a go, I don't think she was and maybe you guys are jumping the gun a little bit. P.S. I'm a 51 year old, after 25 years of counselling I went no contact - yes it took that long to get the guts up to cut them out - when I say abuse, I mean kicked, hit, gaslit and strangled to the point of blacking out. I had to wake up after i'd been strangled and as a kid saw my little life flash before my eyes. And to the lady who is an adult and whose father punched her in the head - yep, I was still being emotionally, verbally and physically abused until my mid 40's at which point I cut them out. 7 years later, I have been totally blackballed by all family. If only the domestic and family violence laws were in place 10 plus years ago, I wouldn't have the trauma I have now.