I sat on a the computer last night for a friend who’d spent all day trying to get tickets for the Sydney show and had to go to work. That Ticketec waiting room is the stuff of madness with the 10 sec countdown. I was losing my mind and I only tried for a couple of hours until notification of the sellout came through. Kudos to anyone who’s been doing this all week! But agree with the comments below, the demand is entirely artificial.
@laura__palmer Why would you want to share intimate parts of your body with people who can’t easily terminate the interaction with you if it makes them uncomfortable? That seems very creepy to me, and is why I think workplace dressing is different to dressing for other public settings. This seems like a blind spot for a generation who otherwise have a very sophisticated understanding of issues around consent.
@mamamia-user-482898552 I had forgotten about that! There was some crazy stuff on tv back then…
@mb1111 I agree with your point about body parts needing to be covered on both sexes, not just women. I’m as uncomfortable with those tight pants that are designed show a guys bulge in a workplace as I am with miniskirts. I don’t think it’s fair to make people see intimate parts of your body in a setting that they can’t remove themselves from! To me that’s what makes the workplace different.
@rush well said - it’s like they think consumers can’t read an ingredient list.
@laura__palmer Sure, norms around professional attire change over time and are inherently subjective (& influenced by setting). I personally love the more casual/less corporate shift. But I can’t think of a single situation where a mini skirt would be appropriate at work, ever, regardless of how it is styled 😬 Hard to have people focus on the good work you’re doing if they’re wondering if you’re going to flash them.
This is utterly heartbreaking to read. I hope one day you understand that you deserve better than what you’re getting here.
@laura__palmer love this response.
@laura__palmer And the thing is, if you do get married and then discover you want to have sex with lots of other women, there’s this amazing thing called divorce! No need to run around behind your partner’s back. The sense of entitlement required to think you deserve to have it both ways blows my mind…
@mamamia-user-482898552 very well put! To be fair, there are some male examples (“tech bros” as an example) but it’s nowhere near as pervasive as the “___ girl” phenomenon. I wish people would understand that self-commodification is still commodification - and human beings deserve to be treated better than that.
No… everyone does NOT need an “aesthetic” now. It’s sad that self-commodification is so pervasive.
I often joke that making friends as an adult is absolutely like dating, but without the sex. It takes deliberate effort! And there’s nothing wrong with that - it doesn’t make you weird, or desperate or anything else negative. Good on you for getting out there 😀
Wow, some of these are absolute shockers!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and de-stigmatising ECT.
@rbk someone with misogynistic, outdated views on older women and zero self awareness, apparently 😂 like a “poor bus services” cracks me up! You’re 100% correct though.
This is a really thought provoking article. I wonder if there is a variation in expectations of consumers between city vs regional areas. Anything under $15 (Asian food or otherwise) is insanely cheap where I live. We’re not exactly awash with culinary options so if a restaurant has good food, they can pretty much charge what they want. There is almost nothing I wouldn’t pay for good bahn mi! People complaining about $8 for it blows my mind.
I use the same pronunciation of foliage as you do! If we’re wrong, at least we’re wrong together.
@rush I feel you with the flybuys at Kmart 😂 was pretty much the only reason I joined!
@km absolutely. And then at the other end of the spectrum, you can have kids who are 18 for most of grade 12 because they started later. It’s so tricky to judge because as you point out, problems can emerge further down the track.
My god, I love this article with the burning passion of a thousand suns… thank you for encouraging women to aspire to a relationship that meets their needs and not apologise for it.