@mamamia-user-482898552 But it's okay to send an anonymous note shaming them?
Like, if you have an issue with your neighbour's kid who has a disability, maybe you should be trying to have a personal relationship with them so that you don't come across as cowardly, ableist and thoughtless when trying to find a solution that works for everyone.

Agree. It shouldn't take having children of the opposite sex for a man to understand disadvantage and discrimination. Women are people, you should have empathy because you are a person, too. Not because you now have a female in your life that you care about.

@cat I think you are overestimating the noise that this one child would be making. I also think that the child, at the end of the day, comes first and maybe these neighbours should leave if one loud child is enough to affect their health.
I also don't see any reason for them to be on edge, as they know what the noise is. One child playing outside.
It is unreasonable (it's actually quite disgusting and cowardly to send a note like this, with no name attached that calls the sound that their child is making "distressing" and suggesting they have "empathy" for these parents, when the note suggests anything but) and Elishatraill above has outlined a much better, less passive aggressive,  and non-ableist approach in one of her comments above that doesn't shame the family.

He's such a grub. I so hope he's gone next week.

@rush It's not a Marie Anoinette vibe when you consider that what is largely written about her is false and she was a 14 year old girl sent to a foreign country to marry a king and treated like an outsider for her entire short life, with the press writing lies about her until she was scapegoated and had her head cut off.

@elishatraill Me too. There's some major ableism going on here.

I fail to see the controversy here

@cat It is black and white when you consider that this sort of reaction to people with a disability causes stigma and forces families to hide their loved ones away. Whose needs are more important? The people who might have to put up with a little bit of noise? Or the kid who needs to be able to live her life?

We all have to share this world and, this is how some people communicate, because they haven't been able to develop communication skills like the majority of us have. Our minor discomfort at some screeching noises should be something we learn to deal with and people shouldn't be shut inside or made to be quiet because it impacts your "peace and quiet". It's like anything in life, if you live near a busy road, you get used to the car noises, if you leave near the bush, you get used to loud bird noises. If you live near some kids with a different way of communicating and showing emotion because they have autism, you might have to live with some shouting or screeching noises.
Also, it's this sort of reaction to people who do have a disability that creates stigma and forces families to hide their loved ones away, so good on this family for confronting this.

@guest2 What evidence do you have that suggests she didn't identify as a black woman before her run for politics? It's pretty clear she calls herself African American, so, as Cat says, why are you disputing her on her own identity? It's really quite racist.

@cat I disagree that Bernie is un-electable. I think he could have won hearts and minds, myself, because his message is one for the working classes. With the right campaign, he would have left Trump in the dust. That's just my opinion, as someone who has studied history, sometimes all you need is a Bernie, because the other side is so hateful. He most probably would have won in 2016, Hilary was also the wrong choice to go up against a troll like Trump.
"Bernies odious because he claims to champion sidelined people while taking up the space. If he really wanted to change things he would have retired at least a decade ago and spent his time mentoring women and young people of colour. And he’s odious because he puts his pride above everything else- he actively stopped his supporters voting for Hillary and it left us with Trump."

@guest2 The media is all over it. And, Hunter isn't running for President. Trump's daughter is pretty sketchy, too, and she works in the White House. A bit more concerning, I think.
Trump has a Chinese bank account, by the way. Paid more tax there than he did in the USA. Also more concerning than Hunter Biden.

A toxic atmosphere on a show where the whole premise is toxic. How surprising.

@guest2 And you continue to deny proven facts, as it's right wing groups who are on the rise and who are committing most of the violent acts.
I'm not downplaying it, although there have been some attacks by left wing people, they are no where near as dangerous as the right wing groups. That is a fact. A provable, undeniable fact.

@guest2 Go and look at her webpage and read her book. She describes herself as African American. Please stop disputing easily proven facts.

@cat Bernie is an old creep and, if that is the best the dems can do, God help America. He'll be 81 at the end of his first term, he's got a track record of putting his hands on women, he's still being tarred with the socialism brush because left=socialism now, according to right wingers everywhere and (even though it looks to be total rubbish) there is the whole thing with his son and the laptop, which Trump supporters are lapping up. They might as well have gone for someone like Bernie, because they were always going to cop it and, if Bernie actually did it and got in, at least he has a vision. A great, proper, left wing vision. Biden is cut from the same cloth as Hilary, in with warmongering and big business and not really left wing at all, so far to the centre that they might as well be centrists. Biden isn't inspirational enough (or at all) to heal America, and it doesn't matter who wins at this point, it is all going to boil over into some violent, rough years. It's beyond the point where Biden is going to be able to get Republicans to work with him.
Why is Bernie odious? At least there isn't footage of him sniffing little girls.

I really hope one day this is revealed to be true, because that would be hilarious.

I think charging more than a $1 is a bit of a cheek.

@guest2 which has nothing to do with this story, and it’s so disgusting to come here and push that agenda, given the subject matter.