Not A Man, Not A Woman: Meet Deni Todorović

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Not A Man, Not A Woman: Meet Deni Todorović

This is an episode about pronouns but it’s not really. It’s actually about love and shame and freedom and acceptance and painful struggles and life-changing revelations.

Deni Todorovic grew up in regional Victoria and from a young age, Deni knew they were gay. But coming out to their Jehovah’s Witness parents in the family home? Well….it wasn’t easy. Nor was coming out to their parents 10 years later as non-binary, but, they did it. And their story is why we’re here today.

Deni is a stylist, a writer, an activist, and the former Fashion Editor of Cosmopolitan Magazine. And they join Mia today, to share their story...


With thanks to Deni Todorović, who you can follow on Instagram here: 


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    Host: Mia Freedman. You can find Mia on Instagram here and get her newsletter here.

    Executive Producer: Elissa Ratliff

    Assistant Producer: Lucy Neville 

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