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Waleed Aly's The Project interview with Scott Morrison: “Does the Coalition have an Islamophobia problem?”

 

Just hours after the Christchurch attacks, Waleed Aly shared an impassioned monologue on The Project.

Admitting that he had struggled to find the words to speak about the attack, Aly called for unity among Australians and an end to racism and Islamophobia.

“Now, now we come together. Now we understand this is not a game. Terrorism doesn’t choose its victims selectively. We are one community,” he said.

“Everything we say to try to tear people apart, demonise particular groups, set them against each other; that all has consequences, even if we’re not the ones with our fingers on the trigger.”

During his speech, Aly also referenced a claim that Prime Minister Scott Morrison had encouraged the Coalition to gain more votes by stirring up anti-Muslim views back in 2011.

Just hours later, the news program received a “furious” call from the Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s office.

It’s believed the Prime Minister was planning to sue the program for defamation.

Now, Waleed Aly and Scott Morrison have sat down for a heated interview.

During the interview, Aly questioned whether the Coalition government has an Islamophobia problem.

“Let me be perhaps more focused… does the Coalition have a problem with Islamophobia?” Aly asked.

“No, I don’t believe the Liberal Party does… I can’t speak for the National Party. I’ll let the leader of the National Party answer that,” Morrison responded.

Morrison then explained how he personally doesn’t hold any anti-Muslim views, before Aly interrupted him.

“No, it is important to focus on the party,” Aly responded.

“I don’t know if Australians understand Islam very well… and that can often lead to a fear of things you don’t understand,” Morrison added.

“In politics, I think it’s important that we have disagreements but I wish we could disagree better.”

During the interview, Aly also pointed to other Coalition party members, including Tony Abbott, Peter Dutton and George Christensen, who have made questionable statements towards Muslims.

He also questioned how closely the Coalition would align with Pauline Hanson’s controversial party One Nation.

“Will you at the very least commit in every seat to putting them below Labor and the Greens?” Aly asked.

“We are going to make these decisions at the time nominations close and we will apply those decisions at that time as a party organisation,” Morrison responded.

“We will never do a preference deal with One Nation, and that we will settle those matters at the time of the nominations closing when we know who all the candidates are.”

Watch the full interview on The Project between host Waleed Aly and PM Scott Morrison here. 

 

The interview, which was live streamed to thousands of viewers on Facebook, led many to compare the stark contrast Morrison’s behaviour in the interview to New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who has been praised for her composure and compassion towards the victims of Christchurch in the past week.

For more on this topic:

“These won’t be my best words…” Waleed Aly’s moving monologue on Christchurch.

“Here are some facts.” The Project’s fierce defence of Waleed Aly after ‘ugly fight’ with PM.​

Why the world can’t look away from Jacinda Ardern in the wake of the Christchurch attack.

Top Comments

Brett 5 years ago

Morrison has finally admitted it.

He has been completely found out, and his behaviour during the interview was quite pedestrian. The LNP, News Corp/Sky/2GB, and conservative think-tanks have used fear-mongering and hate speech rhetoric for years for political gain. People are over the spin, crocodile tears, and revisionism.

We are a great country, we simply don't need this nonsense.

james b 5 years ago

We hear reasonably often that the AFP have an extremist watch list of a few hundred Muslim Australians they're keeping an eye on.

Is that fear-mongering? Hate speech?

What about the 'diversity bollards' being installed in our major cities to stop people from driving over pedestrians. Fear-mongering? Hate Speech?

The truth is that we have problems in this country, and we need to be able to discuss them rationally and calmly without calling each other names and stoking fear and hatred towards any Australian, even those who have different opinions to us.

Guest25 5 years ago

Well said james b

Guest 5 years ago

It is hate speech if officials specifically mention all the Muslims on the watch list, but leave off the part about all the non-Muslims on the same list. As for those bollards: white, non-Muslim men have murderously driven into pedestrians in Australia - but people commonly conflate it as a counter-Muslim terrorist move.

Brett 5 years ago

AFP watchlist and CBD bollards are responses to previous terrorist attacks.

An example of hate speech rhetoric is Morrison and Dutton claiming 300 refugees would collapse our health system via the Medevac Bill. This lie was repeated, even though Australia's population has increased by 2 Million people and yearly intake has increased to 190K under their watch. More so because we have 9 million tourists yearly.

I agree we do have problems in this country, they include both Islamic Extremism and the rise of Far-Right Extremism.

Civil discussion is important. You've been here long enough to know the sort of name calling that can occur during discussion, so I also urge you to call it out.