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Screen shot 2012 07 30 at 10.49.47 AM My relationship survived infidelity

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Here’s a post that Kirsten Stewart and Robert Pattinson might like to bookmark. And then forward to Snow White director Rupert Sanders and his wife.

Despite calling her affair with her married director a ‘momentary indiscretion’, Kristen Stewart is now facing accusations from Sanders’ brother-in-law that “it was from the last half of filming and all through post-production, clear into last week.”

Meanwhile, removalists have been reportedly hauling Pattinson’s belongings out of the LA house he shared with his girlfriend of 4 years.

While much has been made of the reaction of fans (Lordy, you can check that out HERE) and the publication of incriminating photos in magazines, the bigger issue at play is this:  can a relationship ever survive infidelity? Jo Abi’s did.

by JO ABI

I never thought I was the kind of girl who would stay with someone who cheated on me. I always thought I’d walk always without a backward glance. No one would ever treat me like that. I had to much pride, too much dignity, too much self-worth.

My now-husband cheated on me when we were first dating. Here’s how it all went down and how we picked up the pieces that lay all over the floor.

When I met my husband he had been separated from his wife for four years and they were both in new relationships. In fact my husband was living with his most recent girlfriend when I met him and broke up with her shortly before we started dating.

It was a very confusing time. I was young (just turning 23) and he was not quite divorced, moving on from a long relationship with his girlfriend, all while trying to raise his two boys and reignite his career.

I was young and naïve. I still lived with my family. I was in my first full time job and I was struggling with the hours and the expectations.

He was confused and I was lonely. It wasn’t the beginning fairy tales are made of.

We were friends for a year before we started dating. I was much too young for him and he was too complicated for me. We dated in the knowledge that there was no future and focused on friendship and fun.

It was during this time that he cheated on me.

I didn’t know it had happened. All I know is that he suddenly became devoted to me. After dealing with him keeping me at arm’s length and blowing hot and cold, his new-found devotion was flattering and welcome. I didn’t know about his brief affair and I didn’t know he’d broken it off and realised he wanted to be with me forever.

We moved in together and never looked back…until I found out.

It was two years after moving together that I found out he’d cheated.

The problem with him not confessing when it happened is that I felt like he cheated on me when I found out, not two years earlier when we weren’t serious. It felt like the worst kind of betrayal because I found out so long after the fact and because he wasn’t the one who told me.

When he found out I knew he vomited. I took him outside, calmly informed him that I knew and that I was leaving.

I moved out that day. What followed was the most miserable two weeks of my life.

It was the worst kind of pain. I loved him. I wish it had never happened. I wish I didn’t know. I wish he’d told me.

It took over a year for me to be able to move on. We’ve been together now for a further ten years now and I am so happy I didn’t leave him.

Many women will look at my situation and think I’m pathetic. I would have thought the same before I went through it myself. Many relationships deal with infidelity and from the mountain of books I read and interviews I watched I knew one thing – his infidelity would either destroy us or make us stronger. It was up to us.

Just this morning my husband and I were telling each other how much we love each other. We talked about how we aren’t sick of each other, not even a little bit. Our feelings are stronger than ever. Our communication is an effective as always. We miss each other. We love each other. And the reason we are like this is because we almost lost it all and since that terrible time, we’ve both put a lot of effort into maintaining our relationship.

I’m not sure our relationship would have turned out so well without his infidelity. At the end of the day it helped us. It stripped down all his walls. It wasn’t until he was faced with losing me that he realised how much he loved me. And it wasn’t until I found out about his infidelity that I realised how in love with him I was. I could forgive him (as long as it NEVER happens again).

We haven’t had an affair-free relationship but we have had an affair-free marriage.

And celebrity free passes aside (Clive Owen for me and Salma Hayek for him) we plan to stay that way.

Jo Abi is the author of the book How to Date a Dad: a dating guide released by Hachette Livre Australia. You can follow her on Twitter here.

You can read more about celebrities who have strayed at our sister site iVillage here and here.

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  1. Mel

    I have been married for 30 years I had let my husband know at the beginning of our relationship that if he had ever or would ever do the dirty on me I would just leave in a heartbeat, one thing I really couldn’t cope with is betrayal I am a very loyal person. But I do say this if you can get through it more power to you. You would have to be so careful not to throw it back in someone’s face every time you have an argument. Good luck and all the best.

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  2. silly me

    I too found myself with a husband who cheated, but in my case it was passed off as friendship by both parties, that sex took place was denied by both. It was not until 20 yrs later my husband told me that they had sex once and it was not a success for either of them, yet the woman denies that it was her!!! I would have liked all the facts back then, I did not leave because I wanted to believe that the man I loved could not do such a thing and that it was just friendship…. silly me. Still we too survived, yet there is always the “but’ I cannot look at our marriage without applying the” but he did that”. I too would like to know how to forget it and move on, he has and says that he cannot undo it, but that he made a terrible mistake and has been sad and depressed by his behaviour to the point of suicidal thinking. I have to wonder about the other woman in this, she was divorced with 2 children, she caught her husband in bed with another woman, I found it difficult to accept that someone injured in this way would be happy to have a relationship with a married man. What do other readres think?

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  3. Alissa

    Beautiful post. Good for you guys! Sometimes it takes something big like this to realise you’re destined for each other. I haven’t been in this situation so I can’t judge. And I won’t.

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  4. Elspeth

    My ex-husband cheated on me and eventually confessed after the guilt was too much. I naively assumed that cheating on your wife meant a one-night stand and that because he felt so awful, that meant he wanted to do all he could to work it out. Stories like Jo’s had convinced me that everyone who cheats has just made a mistake and desperately wants to work it out. And I wanted to be the kind, forgiving type who works it out and ends up with a stronger relationship because of it. I wanted to fight for us.

    Eventually I realised that, yes, he felt awful, but he was milking that for all it was worth so that I felt sorry for him (yes, truly!) and so I wouldn’t leave him, so he wouldn’t look bad to his family and friends. It turned out that it wasn’t a one-night stand, but an affair that had been going many months, and when I asked him to stop seeing the other (younger) woman, he was miserable because he missed her and so he didn’t stop seeing her(!). He told me he loved us both – me 80% and her 20%. Yes, he actually uttered those words! Thank God I finally realised that this was just ridiculous. So six weeks after finding out, I came to my senses and realised he was just a coward who wanted ME to leave so he could tell everyone I left him, which would make him look better. And when I did leave, did he fight to win me back? Aside from one text message at 2am several weeks later, and a letter eight months later that said he was sorry (but didn’t actually say he’d left the other woman, because he hadn’t), he didn’t do anything at all. Not that I was wanting him to – I was finally ready to pull my own shattered life back together. But it was still a slap in the face to discover the awful truth that as soon as I stopped being the one trying to hold us together, his input was zero. Ouch.

    The moral of my story is that the greatest shock wasn’t the cheating, it was the fact that he cheated but didn’t want to work it out. I hear stories like Jo’s and I’m glad that there are men out there who cheat and actually TRY to win their partner back, and it reminds me how glad I am that I left (as gut-wrenching as it was at the time).

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    • Loop

      Yep, there’s better men out there and you deserve them, Elspeth!

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  5. Louisec

    Just a little confused, you said you moved out and it was a terrible two weeks. Then you say it took a year…. so what happened? Did you move back in after the two weeks? Or later?

    Thanks,

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  6. Anonymous

    My relationship survived infidelity. I cheated on my partner of 7 years while living in New York for 6 months. While I don’t want to ‘justify’ my actions, I will say that we started dating when I was 19 and he was 24, and became very serious very fast. I had only had one other boyfriend in my teens and that relationship lasted 18 months.

    When I was overseas, I was suddenly alone again after almost 10 years of being with someone else. I was getting a lot of attention from guys, was meeting a whole bunch of new friends, and partying like I was 21 again. NY completely overwhelmed me and I got swept away by it all.

    My partner found out after snooping on my FB account. He came to visit for 3 months and confronted me while in NY. In retrospect, it would’ve been a horrible time for him, because he had no one to turn to in NY whereas I had made a heaps of new friends that I could escape to. I wanted to break up coz I suddenly loved being single (in NY). It wasn’t until my visa ran out and I returned to Australia to face my partner that I suddenly realised what I was gambling with – a happy, secure, stable 7 year relationship with an incredible man. And all for a bit of fun in the single world.

    Luckily, he was willing to fight for me and our relationship, and so we both worked at it. Three years later now, we have a son, we’re pregnant with our baby girl and our relationship is stronger than ever. There’s still the odd occasion when he just quietens and I know what he’s thinking about. I’ve always said I’m happy to talk about it if it will help with the healing process.

    I’m just so grateful that we overcame my infidelity because if we hadn’t, I would’ve lost the love of my life, and not have my wonderful son.

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    • Rach

      I had a similar experience- actually, during a brief relationship break, not a trip to new york- but afterwards my partner did the quiet moment thing occasionally for about two years, and I knew why and it devastated me. I’m not recommending you get married, but that’s what we did and the commitment helped a lot in making him feel secure, and like the whole episode was part of a previous phase of our relationship if that makes any sense. No more quiet sad moments, thank god.

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  7. elle

    I have read all your articles on Mamamia Jo and they are often on quite controversial topics! You must be very brave to write so openly and honestly. When I read your piece about having sex everyday with your husband and then this article about infidelity my immediate reaction was of judgement. I thought to myself ‘what an inconsiderate husband! how could he have sex even when she’s mostly not into it?’. Then again this article where my negative impression of your husband increased. Clearly I do not know him personally or have any real insight into your relationship. However from all that you’ve shared I can’t help but get this strong bad feeling about him. I would never want to be with a man who has sex with me while I read or while I am half asleep. To me it shows selfishness that he prioritises getting his needs met above what I really want at that point. Then here how you describe him being recently divorced, then living with a girlfriend, then dating you and then having an affair with another woman while you were dating. Not to mention that he had 2 kids at this time. What kind of father jumps from woman to woman like that? Especially considering he is much older than you as you said. Then there is the fact that he never told you about the affair and the only reason you know is because you found out 2 YEARS later from another source. What if you had married and had kids before finding this out? Obviously you feel secure in your relationship to write this and you say how in love and happy you are together. However my impression of this man is not great at ALL and no matter how many other great points he has, based on what you’ve described in your posts I would’ve left and never looked back! It reminds me of women I know who have older husbands who basically have all the control in the relationship. Their women do everything for them and cater to all their needs, yet these men are inconsiderate, often cheat and do whatever suits them.

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    • Sydgel

      You can not possibly have any real understanding of Jo’s relationship or the true personality of her husband. To assume that you do is not only very naive but extremely presumptuous, judgemental and righteous. No one really knows what goes on in others relationships.

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      • elle

        I acknowledged that I do not know Jo or her husband personally. Clearly I am basing my comment on what Jo has disclosed through her articles. My opinion is that I wouldn’t forgive the behaviour she described in this article or her other article despite what other great qualities the man may have.

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        • yads

          @elle, I dont think anyone can say what they would do in a situation until they are in that situation.
          @Jo, thankyou for your honesty and its great to hear people being able to come back after hard times like that. I know exactly how you feel.

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  8. Anonymous

    I’m currently working through infidelity in my relationship now. My story is similar in a way, in that my partner slept with someone else in the first few months of our relationship and I found out a year later. They had remained in contact throughout our relationship via email in a mainly platonic fashion…sprinkled with innuendo of course….I walked straight out the door. I cried for weeks, while he begged for forgiveness and then we started counselling. It has now been eight months since that terrible day, and while I can say that I am mostly healed, I still have some very bad days and times where I wonder is it worth it. He is 150% commited and is perfect in every other way, supportive, loving, kind and a best friend really. But this blemish on our relationship will probably never completely clear up. Yes, you do come out ‘stronger’ in a way and yes our communication has ‘never been better’ but there are much easier ways for couples to build these skills. The trust is still damaged, it will probably stay that way for years. My best to any one who chooses to try and work through infidelity. It is incredibly tough, but I have seen those who have worked through it and thrived. At the end of the day, what’s for you will not pass you by, so if you are meant to make it through you will, and if you are not, then you’re life will still be an amazing place for you to learn and grow.

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    • Sydgel

      I cheated on my ex in the first couple of month of our relationship. I really like him, we had lots of fun dating but it was very early days. We hadn’t yet made a commitment, whilst we were together neither of us were certain that we wanted to be together permanently – it was way too soon to know that.

      I think this happens a lot more than we probably think – because of that reason, that in the early days of a relationship we are not certain where it is going.

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  9. Jess

    I think when we are young we make mistakes, we aren’t mature after all. Actually we are HUMAN so we make mistakes. The idea of a “leopard never changing it’s spots” is a rather negative view. Thanks for the article, I’m glad your relationship has worked out for the best!

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  10. Loop

    I love all your articles Jo – more please Mamamia :)

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  11. anon

    Don`t know where to put this so ill just say it here & the mods can do whatever.

    I would love to read real stories on this site from women like police officers, firefighters, defence service, nurses about how they juggle their careers & their families given the difficulties of their jobs & the horrible shifts they have to work. More stories also from women living in the remote outback & what issues they have to face.

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  12. Kooki69

    Funnily enough my girlfriends and I were discussing infidelity over the weekend as we know several who have been cheated on (one of my friends included). We came to the conclusion that the evolutionary trait of “fight or flight” very much applies to people in this situation. They will either stay a “fight” to work through their problems or, as was my girlfriends decision, she was out of there and didnt look back! And think for all of us, we think we know how we’ll behave at the time, but so many factors can cloud the situation…was it the first time? Was it sexual or intellectual infidelity? Are there children involved? I could go on, but the point is, you never really know how you’ll react. And you can’t comment on how others react, because you don’t know the details. But it’s a great ‘food for thought’ topic. Great to go home and talk to your partner about!!!

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  13. Sara

    Jo
    Currently working though infidelity and I think hearing a male perspective would really help.
    Id love to hear your husbands side – why he never told you when it happened? The mistakes he made? What he did to regain your trust?

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  14. Ezz

    I love how all these people below are speculating on whether what you did was right or wrong. Assessing your sanity. Your husband’s moral compass. Who says that we are not allowed go through the forgiveness process? Who says a relationship can’t survive *anything*? Love is the greatest force there is – and whilst infidelity is perhaps one of the greatest strains we can put on it – it is not beyond the realm of possibility to devote yourself to forgiveness and change – after all – isn’t that the epitome of love?

    As I tell my daughter every day: It’s not what people say about you – it’s how you choose to perceive it and let it affect you that truly counts. We are capable of so much compassion as human beings – and yet we don’t choose to exercise it.

    These people who are judging you, below – weren’t there when you went through this process. They are judging you according to their own experiences and opinions.

    I applaud you for having the strength to do what so many of us (myself included) could never do. You are truly blessed to have each other. xo

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  15. kersten

    I can’t think for one second why you’d have left your husband for this one. I’m wondering more why your husband choses to stay with you, knowing that you’re happy to blow up a very minor indiscretion and make it seem like he’s betrayed you in the worst way just to get people to pay attention to you. I’ve often read your input to this site and shaken my head about how much of your life your willing the put out there for the amusement of others, and I’ve certainly wondered how the members of your family feel about it. But frankly, this post made me feel a bit ill. Either you’ve not explained the situation particularly well here, or he slept with another woman while the two of you weren’t in a committed relationship. I cannot for the life of me see how that’s cheating, and I certainly can’t see how it’s respectful of the man you “aren’t sick of” to plaster it publicly.

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    • Ponder

      You seem to get quite ill over many things, Kersten.

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    • elle

      I am sure Jo would’ve discussed the post with her husband before publishing it. She has said they were dating and it seems clear they were exclusive and in a relationship to me. Just because she said they were trying not to be too serious doesn’t mean it wasn’t exclusive.

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    • elle

      I am sure Jo would’ve discussed the post with her husband before publishing it. She has said they were dating and it seems clear they were exclusive and in a relationship to me. Just because she said they were trying not to be too serious doesn’t mean it wasn’t exclusive. Plus if it wasn’t why wouldn’t he just tell her at the time? Why would he hide it from her ?

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    • Sydgel

      WHat husband she left for the current one??? It says she was really young when she started dating her current husband.. now I’m confused….

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  16. elle

    I wrote a long comment which I posted but it hasn’t appeared? Could you check if it was deleted please? It was comment-915924

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  17. Liz

    To the author – Jo – I have to say this piece is a bit strange.

    You say you weren’t even in a real relationship and it sounds like there weren’t any real committments… but then you say he cheated on you?

    I don’t get it.

    I think women who have REALLY been cheated on by someone they were in a committed relationship with – say, their husband – would find it a bit strange too.

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  18. Gizmo

    How can you forgive your husband putting his penis in another woman’s vagina?

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    • seaghan

      He wasn’t her husband at the time, they were friends. They weren’t sleeping together, and they hadn’t made any sort of promise of comittment to each other.

      Therefore, he didn’t actually do anything wrong. She was the one who was wrong by overeacting.

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      • Anonymous

        She says they were dating- but focusing on friendship and fun.
        How does that equate just friends that were not sleeping together?

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  19. Hotspotty

    A leopard never changes his spots.

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    • maggie

      Leopard dont, but some humans can.

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    • Jimmy's Girl

      Agree with this statement. (Sorry if this comment may appear twice but I posted the first time and it vanished!). I believe people don’t change who they are. Evidence: I am pretty sure that my ex-husband is at this very moment cheatin on the woman who he cheated with me with.

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  20. cja

    Relationship counselling saved our marriage after his infidelity. We had a 9 month old baby. If we didn’t, I think I would have left for good, but I fought for the sake of my child who deserved a better go to grow up with both parents. It’s not easy, but some good can come out of it all, though after immense pain.
    I’d recommend all married couples read The 5 Love Languages- helps you realise how you show love and want to be loved might be different to others.

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  21. Jane

    My relationship survived infidelity and definitely made us stronger. Never ever ever in a million years did I think my partner would cheat on me. Never! I was utterly devastated and destroyed for a very long time. But I got over it and we moved on and incredibly, have a much better relationship now. In fact, I’m far more secure and confident in my relationship than I ever was prior to him cheating on me.

    And for those who have never been cheated on, don’t go getting all judgemental on us who stay with people who have strayed. You can NEVER know how you will respond or react or what you will do until you are put in that situation. We all say, “Oh I’d definitely leave, that’s a total deal breaker” but you’d be surprised.

    But the main thing I was really shocked at is, when you start confiding in others about being cheated on, it’s absolutely incredible just how many other people have also been through it too. They just don’t talk about it until someone else is brave enough to bring it up first.

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    • Jude

      My partner also cheated on me (i was totally blindsided, never thought he was capable) and I too believe our relationship is stronger and I do feel more secure. I know he would never be stupid enough to do that again and risk what we have together.

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  22. FHB

    Sex is not consent to a relationship. If you have not agreed to be in an exclusive relationship then you can not be cheated on.

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    • elle

      How is that relevent?? Clearly Jo defined she was in a relationship.

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      • FHB

        I’ll tell how it is relevant, seeing as I can see we will argue the point on every topic in the foreseeable future:

        1. If your relationship is not one of exclusivity and has not been pronounced as such under agreeable terms from said parties then their can by definition be NO cheating.

        2. In other relationships, (you know – the ones people are talking about today in the comment board above and below) I was merely looking at relationships in a broader sense.

        So, to conclude; Jo did not write about exclusivity and as such leaves that open to interpretation and comment.

        Anything else Elle??

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        • elle

          Is the attitude necessniary? She said they were dating. She never said they weren’t exclusive.

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          • FHB

            Is the attitude necessniary?

            I have Piratetude the best kind, what about your own? ;)

            She never said they weren’t exclusive. I agree, she never clarified it either way, hence my statement/s being effectual and relevant.

            Glad we can keep our discussions civil.

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  23. tanlee

    I am not one of those women who thinks infidelity is an instant deal breaker. As you say, it depends.

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  24. Anon

    What source are you using for the photo in this post? Because it’s a photoshop manipulation that was posted by a fan before Rob and Kristen were even involved. Check your sources and know the copyright rules guys.

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    • Sydgel

      WHat are you? The photo police?????

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  25. Seaghan

    You were concentrating on friendship and fun, and he cheated on you? What did he do? Have fun with someone else? Was he friends with someone else?

    I don’t get it, you weren’t slapping tummies so he can’t have cheatedd on you. It’s defies logic and the definition of cheating.

    If he was to shag some random now, then that is cheating.

    Then we’ll chat about what it’s like to be cheated on.

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  26. jenniferp1234

    I do think that relationships can survive infidelity, but survival definitely depends on each partner’s willingness to trust and be trusted again. My ex-boyfriend cheated on me six years ago and left me for that woman, ending our two year relationship. I moved abroad to Thailand after that and remarried two years ago. This man cheated too; however, the circumstances were completely different, and I still believe he deserved forgiveness. Sadly, because of my first experience of infidelity, I couldn’t forgive him, and I was too emotional and bitter to try to work things out. I got a Thailand divorce last year, and regret that my past has hardened my heart so much. When I allow myself to reflect, I wish I could have been one of those women who can get past infidelity and build an even stronger relationship. I have a lot of respect for anyone that can do that.

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    • Sydgel

      Good try to promote your company but we’re not that stupid.

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  27. Kimberley

    So here’s a question – when is it betrayal? If you find out your husband has been:
    Meet for dinner?
    A hug that went too long?
    A kiss?
    Sex?
    When they start to lie?
    I’ve got a husband who hasn’t had an intimate relationship but certainly has a connection with someone who for work reasons, can’t NOT see her but is trying to keep the distance so he can get his head straight.
    I’ve asked him to leave the matrimonial home (3 kids) so he can get some clarity and perspective. But this woman is still in the picture.
    Have to say though, life is simpler without a man around. Is that mean?

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    • Freyja

      Not mean at all, Kimberley, and good for you for doing something about a situation you werent happy with. Emotional betrayal can be every bit as bad. No one can say right or wrong what is the bottom line. if its hurting you, thats enough.
      If you explain to your other half that what they’re doing is hurting you and they dont do anything about it, you can assume that your feelings and wellbeing arent their top priority like they should be and you can act accordingly.

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    • Sydgel

      Kimberley, good on you for taking a smart and sensible stand. Sure the job market may be tough but if his priority is you and his children then he would go find another job. Good luck

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  28. Anon for this

    Thanks so much for sharing, Jo. Around this time last year I found out my boyfriend cheated on me (gave himself a free pass for a WHOLE WEEK to be single and slept with 1 girl) and turned to the MM community for help and guidance, which was handed out in spades. I can’t thank everyone who commented enough.

    I’m happy to say my relationship has survived his stupid, idiotic act of infidelity but even though I’d like to say I’ve moved on and I’m over it, honestly, I can’t say I 100% am. I still think about it time to time, especially when he’s out most weekends drinking and partying. I wonder what he’s up to, what he’s doing and why he hasn’t texted me back. Crazy I know, but I can’t help it! Also doesn’t help that we are STILL long distance. Even though we see each other for long periods of time and love each other more than anything, I still sometimes feel the hurt and don’t exactly 100% trust him (as much as that pains me to say).

    Sometimes I feel like he’s just completely forgotten about this and has just pushed it clean out of his mind but I’m still hurting and wish he would just be a bit more understanding of it. I just don’t know how to bring it up and don’t really want to!!

    Anyway, I don’t really have a point to this comment other than I’m still trying to work through it and just reaaaallly want to get over it and move on but damn gurl, it sure takes its time!!! Wishing anyone who has been through this lots of love xx

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    • Anna

      Oh dear. Anon, you are not at ALL crazy for wondering what he is doing when he is out partying and drinking. He cheated on you, it is natural to be suspicious, especially when he is repeating the same behaviors and is long distance from you. I sincerely hope he does not make you feel crazy or that you are overreacting. You should be getting 100% support from him. And if he does not want to discuss this further with you (and you want to still), please seriously consider if this relationship is right for you.
      I know I don’t know you, or your full situation, and I am no means an ‘expert’ at giving advice…but I hope you recognize what you are worth. Don’t let people treat you badly. Even if a break up is hard to begin with, it is worth it if you become happier and more secure afterwards.
      I hope you have people you can talk to. Take care :)

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    • Jess88

      Hullo Anon For This
      I don’t know the full story regarding your situation but your comment really hit home with me. I was in basically the exact same situation (going partying with his mates every weekend, cheated on me, I chose to stay) as you except we lived together. At first he tried really hard to win my trust back by toning down the partying, letting me check his phone whenever I asked, etc, etc. but it didn’t last forever and soon he slipped right back into his old partying ways – maybe I was partly at fault as I was never able to trust him 100% and always had that niggling feeling that something wasn’t right. Anyway, I lasted 2 more years into that relationship (total of 4.5 years together) before I decided I couldn’t go on with feeling that way any more and I ended it, it was hard and I was devastated but the hurt goes away eventually. A few months later I bumped into a friend of his who said that he had been playing up on me pretty much the whole time and that all his mates desperately wanted to tell me but didnt know how, I felt quite foolish that I was the last to know but relieved that I had listened to my intuition.

      I’m not in any way saying that your relationship will turn out like mine, I guess I’m just trying to say listen to your intuition and instinct and take care of yourself – you’re the most important person to you, your happiness is paramount.
      All the best xxx

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    • Anon

      Feel ya sista

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  29. anon1

    The guy had a casual fling whilst in a casual relationship with the author.

    He is now publically branded a cheater & lair (comments made below)

    Not sure why this had to be publically aired, too much oversharing these days but I worry for the authors children who may read this article about their Dad in a few years time.

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  30. Anonymous..

    Does anyone who is reading this story have any tips on how to trust again after being cheated on? I am in the situation of deciding to stay with my partner after I was cheated on a year ago. I still think about it every day and sometimes I don’t know if staying with him is worth the battles my mind plays out all the time over the smallest things.

    How do you move on and learn to trust the one you love again? Is there something he should be doing or am I the one who needs to change my thoughts? How can you make it work????

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    • Cait

      First of all, Im sorry you are going through this, its not a fun place to be.

      In my experience, it requires work from both parties.

      My recommendation for you is counselling – couples counselling preferably.

      As far as the work goes, he needs to find a way to earn your trust, because so much damage to your trust cannot be undone just with a ‘sorry’. But at the same time, you need to realise that the indiscretion was just a tiny blip on his otherwise formidable record of being a loving partner (because thats why you are with him), so try not to hand, draw, and quarter him for it at every opportunity.

      For me, I wrote everything i was feeling in a diary (im otherwise not a diary keeper). I kept that diary simply to document how good/bad/awful i was feeling about the whole scenario, and my man knew that when i was writing in that diary, I was hurting. He has said since that it made it more real to him that he had hurt me beyond yelling, fights, and namecalling, and that i was really unable to trust him with my feelings at that time.

      Its been about 18 months now for me, and sometimes i still get pangs of anger about it, but they are fleeting. its a long, bumpy and scary rollercoaster, but if the conditions are worth it, you can survive and even come out stronger on the other side.

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      • Anonymous..

        Thankyou so much…. probably the first real piece of advice I have ever recieved that has given me hope about everything. I haven’t told many others but I know everyone would think I am a fool for staying with him. Part of me wants to open up to someone about it, but that also makes me think that I will be reminded of it in the future, when I have made progress.. It really is a bumpy, hurtful, scary road to be on… hopefully our love will shine through though and make our relationship stronger..

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        • Cait

          Your welcome :) i trawled the internet for months before my counsellor gave me that advice. I personally didnt tell anyone except our Counsellor. i didnt want my thoughts or opinions to be tainted or swayed with echoes of ‘that bastard’ from friends or family.

          Since it has more or less cleared, I opened up to my closest friends about what we had been through. They were shocked, but they saw my reasoning for not confiding in them sooner, and they can still see that he is a good man with a good heart – he just made a dumb decision once.

          In the meantime, hugs to you, and good luck with it.

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      • Missie

        I needed to know all the sordid details. It hurt but they were the questions that were plaguing me! How?, where?, who? Why her? etc For a man, sometimes it’s not about even being attracted to the woman, sometimes it’s just the thrill of the “chase” and someone wants them! I get it now. Doesn’t make it right but I get it (well in my situation anyway)
        You do have to learn to let it go, if you really want to move on together. It takes time but u need to talk. Forgiving is the first step, and truly forgiving if he is sincere in asking for forgiveness.
        It’s a risk that it “could” happen again but I do believe people can change.
        (dunno if this helps, but it’s working for me)

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    • Anna

      Yes you can survive an affair. It’s not easy, but it can be done if you’re really prepared to make it work. You both have to want it. And you have to be mature about it. I was the one who was cheated on. My husband did something really stupid.
      The first thing to do is decide if you really do want to stay, and why. It cant be out of fear. It has to be out of love. I also recommend a therapist. Mine was fantastic and I learned alot about myself in the process. I went on my own. We never did the couples thing.
      Once you decide to stay, you must forgive and learn how to forget (in time). You cant bring it up every time you have a fight. This is the hardest part, and where you really have to try to be mature about it. For us, it forced us to really take stock of our marriage and make important decisions about where we were headed. It was a scary time. It forced us to set new boundaries and redefine what was important. In the end, we came out stronger.
      I had to work harder as I was the one who needed to make peace with the situation, but he had to work hard at regaining my trust. There were a few bumps along the way when I felt like throwing in the towel.
      It would’ve been easier to leave, but I’ve never regretted fighting for my marriage. I dont trust him 100%, but it gets closer everyday.

      Good luck.

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    • Anon for this

      I’m 4 years down the track. It still comes up, but to be fair, thats usually when I am unhappy or miserable for other reasons as well (like not being able to find work after finishing a second degree type stuff. Totally unrelated, except that it influences my feelings).

      What helped us, aside from counselling which is invaluable, was the fact that my husband was fully ok with taking the blame and never once being annoyed with me for bringing it up or talking about it. I don’t mean flinging it as an accusation in an argument, but if I ever wanted to say something about it, or how it made me feel, or what it was impacting, I was totally free to do so, and he never once got defensive, or frustrated. He just listened, tried to answer if it was a question, reassured me if it wasnt, and apologised again if that was warranted.

      What that meant for me, was that I didn’t ever feel like I needed to pretend I was ok if I wasn’t, that if I had thoughts or questions (was she prettier than me etc) they were answered and not grey areas that could mentally torture me. I needed that clarity and definitive information to be able to process it.

      Like a lot of people, I would say we are stronger now, if only because it has forced him to speak about things that bother him, where before he bottled it up and thats what ultimately lead to it.

      It just takes time, understanding and honesty from both parties to each other and to yourselves. Good luck.

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      • Lucy

        Thats the type of communication we have 6 months on, I have bad days but a hug and some reassurance that he loves me seems to do the trick. He knows he lost my trust and that it will take time to regain that. He knows how much he hurt me, and he finds it hard to talk about, seeing me in pain, but understands i need answers – thanks for giving me hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel

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        • Anon for this - again

          There is definitely light. Hang in there.

          We got there eventually. You’ll get there too. One quote I heard that I used a lot was “one day at a time. Its not hard. Its light and then its dark and then its over. Anyone can get through that”. And you can. Just one day at a time. Works for most things in life really.

          Best wishes x

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      • Loop

        I think the way your husband reacted when you needed to talk about it shows the strength of your underlying relationship and demonstrates that it was worth saving <3

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  31. Rudge

    Sorry – but from the information you provided – this is a pretty pathetic story about cheating. As has been pointed out below you weren’t serious, weren’t living together, didn’t even think there was a future together!! I’m sure it did hurt when you found out – but to compare it to infidelity within a marriage or serious relationship (which I know you didn’t explicitly but the whole tone of the article implied it) is just insulting to those people who have experienced that pain.

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    • Anon

      Wow, that’s not very supportive! She found out when they were serious and it would’ve hurt a LOT. Who are you to decide whose emotional pain is not valid??

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      • Seaghan

        But Rudge is correct, there was no relationship, just a friendship. It was an enormous overeaction to pack her bags and leave. I know that if I had been in the same position as him, I probably would have shagged someone else too. Then when she dumped me I’d have headed for the hills. If she’s going to dump him once, there’s a pretty good chance she’ll do it again.

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        • sydgel

          Maybe it was an overreaction for you – but you can’t be critical of how someone handles a situation such as this. We are such an incredibly judgmental society. We all do the best we can. I look back over how I handled things a few years ago – nowhere near as well as I do now. She was young then too, twenty something. There was a relationship – it was the early stages but they were together.

          Your entire comment is angry and judgmental. You obviously have a lot of issues.

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  32. Guest

    Hmmm… good story Jo Abi but I can’t help but wonder whether the comment I made on another story last week gave you the idea for this story. It’s hard to miss the “similarities”

    Here is my original comment on Nobody ever plans to be a part-time parent July 25, 2012 at 9.13pm (in reply to “Anon for this”)

    Hi Anon for this – I understand the pain, heartache and betrayal you feel at the moment. My husband cheated on me very early on in our marriage before we had children. I didn’t know how I would survive let only ever trust him again. It was probably only because I was so young and didn’t know what else to do so ended up staying with him after he promised that he loved me and it would never happen again. It turned out it was a wake up call for him because he realised he did love me and how close he came to losing our marriage. It took a couple of years before I could fully trust him again but he has proven his love and faithfulness to me over and over again. I am so glad I stayed. We have been married nearly 25 years now and have 3 absolutely amazing sons who are the joy and delight of my life. My husband has turned out to be a wonderful husband and the best father I could hope for my boys. I am so glad I stayed. I think it is worth giving it a try. Your marriage can recover from this. I am not saying it will be easy but if both people are willing to try, (he will need to earn your trust back and you will need to learn to forgive and trust again in time) but it can work. I pray that it does work out for you. Hugs from someone who’s been there XX

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    • Noelle

      Wait… so your partner cheated on you early in the relationship and then you got back together? Yes, sounds like she definitely stole the story from you :-P

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    • Justine

      Wow – I would have never had guessed that you are the only person EVER to go through that !

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  33. petal

    my boyfriend cheated on me while I was on holiday and gave me chlamydia as a result. the night before i left he sat me down and told me that he could ‘see a future with me’. when I found out, I said ‘thanks for letting me know, i’ll seeya later’, and never spoke to him again. I viewed it as ‘well, at least now I know what he is really like!’ the worst part though is that i brought him home a bottle of top shelp duty free gin haha! his loss :)

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  34. iamevilcupcake

    Here is my opinion, which I know I’m going to get slammed for, but I don’t care.

    There is always a reason behind cheating. It could be that the other “innocent” party has taken a step back emotionally, physically, sexually, and so the “guilty” party has gone elsewhere to get what they are missing.

    Another reason is because the guilty party is just a jerk who just wants to get what they want, and doesn’t care who they hurt in the process.

    If my partner cheated on me because I wasn’t upholding my end of the bargain, I would definitely be upset, but how could I end it when my behaviour contributed to the straying?

    If my partner was just an asshat who couldn’t keep it in their pants then they would be out on their ass.

    I would just like to point out however, that a reason is not an excuse. I was in a loveless and sexless marriage, but I never cheated. I made that vow, and I stuck by it. In my situation if I had found out he had cheated he would have been out on his backside as he was the one withholding.

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    • Jess88

      I don’t see any reason for you to get flamed for that comment, Cuppy. Nearly every person who cheats always says one of the two reasons you listed above – I think you’re pretty spot on.

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    • ash

      I like your use of the word ‘asshat’.

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    • FHB

      I agree to a degree. I think that when people say you should break up with someone if you want to have sex with someone else, I also offer the proviso that you should probably break up with someone if you don’t want to have sex with them.

      If you are not having sex with someone you are in a relationship with and they cheat, I think it mitigates somewhat what they did.

      This though, is in the absence of communication which also can become extinct in relationships to the point of nonexistent.

      Many people feel trapped in relationships by their love for their children and fear the loss of them in a break up, so they seek to fulfill their needs outside the partnership whilst trying to maintain family life.

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      • iamevilcupcake

        That’s true about communication. And about feeling trapped. I felt trapped by my sense of duty. If that even makes sense.

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    • Gin & Tonic

      Im not sure I agree entirely with you. I do agree that cheating is often caused by something lacking in a relationship, but I dont think the non cheating partner has to take any responsibility for that.

      When I read stories about forgiving a cheater, they invariably say that things are better now because we communicate better about things and everything is out in the open. To me the lack of communication is the problem in the first place not the lack of sex, intimacy, or whatever.

      If you arent getting something you need from your relationship it doesnt give you an entitlement to find it elsewhere, what you do have a responsibilty to do is to communicate with your partner about whatever is troubling you and work on resolving it. You dont get to cheat and ask for forgiveness and THEN work through the problems between you.

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  35. Claire

    Ive been there (I am there) – its not somewhere id recommend.

    “It was the worst kind of pain. I loved him. I wish it had never happened. I wish I didn’t know. I wish he’d told me.” So so true – I wish HE’D TOLD ME, not only has he cheated on me, he has lied to me, lived our lives as though nothing had happened for the last 2 years. Which not only comes with hurt, but also left me questioning everything about our relationship over the past 2 years.

    Although there is a serious abuse of trust and a lot of that is lost – I believed in us. If you can work through it I truly believe you will come out better for it.

    We are still in the first 12 months, but making some great progress and some great indicators of commitment and future planning coming through. Its so nice to hear that 10 years on you can talk about it and acknowledge it made you stronger. Thanks Jo x

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  36. Cait

    My relationship survived infidelity. It was a shit ride, but Im personally glad we persevered. Mine is a storyline fit for Passions (as you will see) but it has a happy ending.

    My man and I were freshly dating when he admitted he had a nutter ex who stalks him (protection orders breached, emotional manipulation, threats of physical violence, threats to damage property, the LOT). It was a bombshell, but i figured i could handle it. Anyway to cut a long story short, that woman was nuts and literally coerced him into ‘one more night’ so she would leave him alone. he bought it. I found out 8 months later. I was devastated.

    We had counselling, for months. he made such an effort to change, i couldnt leave. Im glad i didnt. But it also helped that the counsellor was also a behaviour specialist, and she said that his reaction to the nutty ex was textbook, and that she highly doubts he would ever do it again.

    It also helps that the nutty ex got arrested, and charged for breaching the protection order.

    Relationships can survive infidelity, but only if the indiscretion can be a tiny dot or blemish, on an otherwise massive and beautiful story.

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    • Jan

      Sorry but didn’t HE breach the protection order by having sex with his ex?

      I think you were played for a fool by that “she coerced me”BS.

      I’m glad things have worked out for you but I wouldn’t trust him at all.

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      • Cait

        No actually he didnt.

        The 1st protection order had lapsed from the previous year, and she tried to play friendly before coercing him – thats when the infidelity occurred.

        When I moved in, he got a new protection order banning all contact, and forbidding her from going within 100meters of his (our) home or workplace. The arrest actually happened after she called him one morning on her work phone, claiming she was pregnant, months after the Order was in place.

        He literally did not say one word on that phone call, the police tracked the call, and she was forgmarched out of the childcare centre she worked at. The police/Court informed us that her claims of pregnancy were untrue, of her own admission.

        Its easy for someone on the outside to say someone was played, or to say that someone was or wasnt coerced, but i got a *professional* opinion on all that before deciding to stay.

        I could literally write an essay on the nutty things his ex did, suicide notes (he called the ambulance and had her admitted to psych care), threats of violence (sending people to his work to hurt him when they broke up, and damage to property (imagine getting a phonecall to look outside, only to see the crazy ex holding a brick over your car windscreen) etc etc etc.

        The personality types between the ex and my man was that he felt to blame for her craziness, and tried to help her, or tried to stop her from getting into more trouble (hence the lapsed first Order), and she was manipulative right up to the 11th hour.

        Im glad to say that he and i are still together, and she got the help she needed (after being arrested & charged) and appears to be in a stable relationship with someone else.

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        • Ok then...

          Uh huh. I think you’ve included all that epic detail to convince yourself that your boyfriend didn’t really, actually cheat on you – that evil woman MADE him have sex with her. Pull the other one!
          As for Jo, once a cheater, always a cheater, all I’m reading here is a long list of justifications. By staying with a man who has cheated on you you’ve basically rewarded him for disrespecting you. Not cool.

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          • Cait

            Wrong wrong wrong, oh and wrong buddy. I didnt reward him, I made him work for my trust, and I am fully aware he cheated. No one forced him. The difference for me was he wasnt looking to cheat, by all accounts, it happened under other circumstances.

            If he were looking for other tail, or thought what he did was ok, it would be different. Basically i wasnt saying ‘look at my awesome relationship’, i wasnt even asking for your misplaced criticism or even praise, I was simply sharing my experience.

            Did you forget your manners today? I hope for the sake of the people you call friends that you never spout that tripe about ‘rewarding’ that behaviour again.

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            • Loop

              Dear Cait, I think you have your own brain and are the only person best placed to make judgements about your life and circumstances and the people you know. Good for you! xxoo Sincerely, not the other commenters.

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          • Loop

            Wow. Don’t understand why you’re picking on a victim.

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            • Guest

              She’s not a victim! This man sounds like a lunatic. He’s got some “crazy ex” and protection orders and drama drama. Then he goes and sleeps with said nutter woman?! Come on. All the thousands of sentences won’t change the facts. What a ridiculous situation.

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        • Guest

          Maybe he was to blame for her behaviour. I feel really sorry for her. Why didn’t he just change his phone number?

          Did anyone run to the police and fill them in that he had sex with her? I guess not. Yet he’s running to the police when she calls him.

          I’d really like to hear her side of the story, I bet it is really interesting.

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  37. Noelle

    Hey Jo,

    How did you find out about it after two years? Did he tell you, or did you find out in another way…?

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  38. Jen

    Thanks Jo for sharing your story about a painful period in your life. Sorry the first comment on here is the kind of mean spirited judgmental crap that almost always follows posts by people using the name Anon. Ahh the sisterhood… the ultimate in blood sports!

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    • Jimmy'sGirl

      On which planet is that comment ‘mean spirited judgemental crap’? I agreed with the commenter and clicked on the thumbs up – agreeing with anon that from another person’s perspective, it perhaps wasn’t the biggest of issues. I guess it’s a starting point for the author, however, to explore this topic. I’m sure there are many other people (myself included) who might put this story into the ‘molehill’ category when making comparisons to events in their own lives. But mean spirited and judgemental? I don’t think so. But some people can be very quick to take offence! :)

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  39. anon

    “We were friends for a year before we started dating. I was much too young for him and he was too complicated for me. We dated in the knowledge that there was no future and focused on friendship and fun.

    It was during this time that he cheated on me.”

    Your non husband, no future, focused on friendship, fun partner cheated?

    Would that even be considered cheating? Mountains out of molehills me thinks

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    • alyssakt

      Agree!!!

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    • Jess88

      Im not even sure I would consider that cheating either to be honest. Unless you have had ‘the talk’ or some sort of spoken/unspoken agreement that you’re going to be only with each other, then I wouldn’t say it’s cheating that early in an undefined relationship – more like keeping your options open.

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    • Freyja

      Im not entirely sure that counts, either, but its your story, your feelings and your hell you went through. Im glad it turned out for the best for you all.
      My husband cheated on me when I was pregnant with our second child. Seven years later he did it again. No more chances for anyone, now.

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    • Peta

      I think the point though is that she found out from someone else 2 years later when they were in a committed relationship so it actually felt like it was happening at that time.

      If she found out when it had actually happened (during the just having fun period!) then maybe it wouldn’t have been such a big deal.

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    • Fiona

      I’m sure it wouldn’t have been a big deal, if he’d admitted it at the time. It’s the fact he lied about it, and was caught out two years later that would feel like a breach of trust, a horrible thing.

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      • Cheney mark

        My name is Cheney mark from florida. I never believed in love spells or

        magic until i met this spell caster once when i went to Africa in

        February this year on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is

        DR.EDOBOR he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring

        back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell

        for a good job or luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos

        the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my

        life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 2years. I

        really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good

        paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened

        and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided,

        skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i

        returned to Canada, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and

        came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom

        and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I

        didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my

        boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married

        now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the

        new job and our lives became much better. His email is

        edoborspelltemple@yahoo.com

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        • Ross Kelly

          My name is Rose Kelly My lover and I separated Last year September; I will agree I wasn’t true to myself and him. But I did all I could let her have a good life I did put all my energy into our little family as we have 2 beautiful kids. Because I worked as a waiter he didn’t really like that for a career, he thought I didn’t want to do well in my life. Last year as the harsh finance situation hit as we’ve been suffering with our finance for a while he decided to end our marriage. Which i was very devastated!! to lose the love of my life, but a month after separation i went to France for 10days to clear my head. when i got back he wanted me back but he didn’t want romantic side of it a month after xmas he told me again that he cant do it anymore as our finance was at lowest. Then we made a decision to end it to sort our lives out…but my prayer everyday for her to realize that i am not a loser all i wanted is to do what i could to put food on the table and roof over their head. since the second separation i am qualified football coach and fitness instructor and doing more toward my career but I don’t want to get into a relationship with another man when my love and I suffered all of this years when my career takes of he is not there to enjoy it with me. I really want him back in my life so i contacted this spell caster Dr gbojoro who now help me to bring him back, we now have a happy family together with my lover. If you want his help you reach him via email at gbojorotemple1@yahoo.com

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