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Margaret Whitlam has passed away

Margaret Whitlam, charity advocate, women’s rights campaigner and wife of former Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, has passed away in hospital at the age of 92. She was admitted after earlier falling in her Sydney home. A statement released by the family said:

“She was committed to public service, and her lifetime devotion to many causes was recognised when she was appointed as an Officer in the Order of Australia in 1983.

“Her marriage to Gough in 1942 marked the beginning of a true political and personal partnership/

“He admired her intellect, wit and commitment to improving the lives of others; she described him as ‘delicious’ and ensured his feet remained well-grounded.”

In 1997 she was named as one of Australia’s National Living Treasures:

The new Living Treasures (excluding Kylie Minogue) lined up for a group photo.

Scientists up-end what many think is a normal night’s sleep

That old maxim that we should all sleep for a healthy eight hours each night might be wrong. There is now ‘mounting’ evidence to suggest humans are much more accustomed to having two (smaller) sleeps a day, rather than one block of longer sleep. That’s been the norm since the dawn of human civilisation according to Roger Ekirch, a professor in the Department of History at Virginia Tech and author of At Day’s Close: Night in Times Past.

“By segmented sleep, I am referring to a pattern whereby individuals typically slept in two phases of perhaps three to three-and-a-half hours each in length bridged by an intervening period of wakefulness. The transformation to our much younger, modern mode of slumber took place gradually and erratically over the course of the 19th century in Western societies.”

“People who awaken in the middle of the night for no explicable reason should not torment themselves about the source of their wakefulness or think themselves abnormal,” said Ekirch. “Both physicians and patients have told me that this knowledge alleviates anxiety, which in itself contributes to wakefulness upon stirring in the middle of the night. Judged by thousands of years of human history, these so-called insomniacs are arguably more normal than the rest of us.”

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AFL player David Wirrpanda

Racism claims as AFL recruiters admit preferring white parents

A recruiter for a major AFL club has privately admitted a belief that Aboriginal players would be better in the team if ‘at least one parent was white’.

As Fairfax reported:

The recruiter is one of several recently approached by the AFL in response to rumours of unease at some clubs about recruiting indigenous players, and a drop in their numbers on club lists.

There are 80 Aborigines on AFL lists this year, down from 85 in each of the past two years.

Some clubs have told the AFL they are more reluctant than before about recruiting Aboriginal players because they are thought to provide a difficult management issue. Other clubs, however, remain firmly committed to recruiting Aborigines.

The issue was brought into focus by the arrest in the Northern Territory last week of Melbourne player Liam Jurrah for an alleged assault with a machete.

Jason Mifsud, the AFL’s community engagement manager, admitted these attitudes existed in some clubs but thankfully were not prevailing mindsets. He said the very idea of separating talent out into issues of ‘missed race’ was insulting and offensive.

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Retail sector says the pain is yet to come

The National Retail Association says more than 100,000 jobs will be shed in the coming years in a crisis which would outstrip that currently facing manufacturing.

A new study, commissioned by the National Retail Association and conducted by accountancy firm Ernst and Young over the past six months, estimates the national retail sector, which employs 1.3 million Australians, will lose 118,000 jobs over the next three years in the face of severe competition from online shopping.

Of those, 33,000 jobs will go because of a $1000 GST-free threshold for goods bought online and imported.

Association executive director Gary Black told ABC: “The jobs crisis unfolding in retail dwarfs the predicament and dilemmas that are confronted by the demise of the Australian manufacturing sector.”

So, what do you think?

- Also on MM: ‘Is this the end of the department store’?

In the Week in Pics, ice cream in favour of same sex marriage, a Taylor Swift inception and heaps more:

These pictures are from a Tumblr called Celebrity Close Ups. This is Pamela Anderson

The Pope will get his own fragrance. But not for you.

Pope Benedict XVI already has custom-made robes, shoes and mobile phone but now he’s getting his own fragrance too. Just for him. “The cologne is meant to reflect the German Pontiff’s love of the forests and animals from his native Bavaria, as well as peace and tranquility infused with lemon tree blossom and the aroma of spring grass; a pure and clean essence recalling the notion of peace,” says perfumist to the stars Silvana Casolito, whose past clients include Madonna and Sting.

PayPal launches major device to bring ‘cashless economy’.

Global payment corporation PayPal has launched a new device, PayPal Here, which clicks into smartphones via the headphone jack and allows business owners to process credit card and PayPal payments in one swipe wherever they are. The thumb-sized encrypted card reader combines with a specialised app for the business owner which brings all payments and money tracking to the one place. Customers, too, can take advantage by ‘checking in’ on the regular PayPal application and having all their details available on the businessowner’s app. Morning coffee quicker? Yes please. In that instance, where the customer already has a PayPal account, they never need to reach for their wallet. Is it really the first step in the cashless economy?

Brad Paterson, Head of New Ventures, PayPal Asia Pacific, said: “For more than 13 years, PayPal has helped millions of small businesses around the world to grow by handling the complex and crucial task of getting paid safely and conveniently. PayPal Here brings a truly new and innovative solution to the Australian payments industry which will have a huge impact on reducing the stress of taking and chasing payments for small businesses and service providers across Australia.”

THE VIEW FROM CANBERRA

Lauren3 News: Margaret Whitlam dies, aged 92by Lauren Dubois

The Government versus the Billionaires

There’s a war going on between the Government and the Billionaires.

And, the Government reckons Tony Abbott’s been recruited to the Billionaire Liberation Army.

A fed up Wayne Swan launched the first missile a couple of weeks ago, when he attacked our richest people as the “poison infecting our politics”.

This is a little taste of what he had to spray. I mean, say:

“The combination of industry deep pockets, conservative political support, biased editorial policy and shock-jock ranting has been mobilised in an attempt to protect vested interest. It’s reflected in how the Coalition under Tony Abbott has recently radicalised itself into an Australian version of the Tea Party.

I fear Australia’s extraordinary success has never been in more jeopardy than right now because of the rising power of vested interests. This poison has infected our politics and is seeping into our economy. Though these vested interests have not yet prevailed, every day their demands get louder.”

The Treasurer has cast Gina Rinehart, as the almighty danger to democracy, who’s using her money for evil. And her winged monkeys are apparently members of the Coalition.

When Gina’s dirty family laundry was aired for the whole country to see, some letters from Senator Barnaby Joyce were uncovered.

Gina Rinehart’s quite matey with some of the Coalition, you see. She flies them around in her jet, taking them to fancy foreign weddings and what not.

Barnaby Joyce is so chummy, he sent a note to the Rinehart children, urging them to think twice about taking Mother Dearest to court.

But on this battle field, that just looks like the Coalition is too close to the Rinehart family, and therefore, doing its bidding.

Senator Joyce defended himself in the papers saying he genuinely thought he could help the family by telling them to keep their affairs private.

“What I do find annoying, though, is where it is thought that because you get along with someone, then you take your riding instructions from them; you don’t,” he wrote.

But the Coalition’s struggling to prove it isn’t influenced, by the Mining maven. Especially when Tony Abbott’s opposition to the Mining Tax extends to blocking small business tax cuts.

How it works: The big miners pay more tax. That tax goes to all of us who aren’t big miners. In particular, some of that money goes to businesses in the form of a tax cut.

Except, it’s just not like the Liberal Party to oppose tax cuts (they are particularly fond of a tax cut). Especially when it means teaming up with the Greens (rather fond of the tax hike) to make sure it doesn’t pass through parliament.

“It’s Mr Abbott’s decision that I’m surprised by, truly surprised by,” the Prime Minister said of the decision.

“I never thought I’d see the day that the Liberal party would join the Greens to vote against a tax cut for business.”

The PM also thought she’d never see the day the Government would be back at the High Court (ooh, what a segue.)

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Clive Palmer

Because, on another battle field, that other big miner, Clive Palmer, is unleashing his affluent fury on Mr Abbott’s other bugbear, the Carbon tax.

Clive says he wants to take it all the way to the High Court. Just like Darryl Kerrigan from the Castle. Except super super rich.

“You can’t really tax carbon,” he said.

“It’s a joke because the air moves right around the world.”

You can bet, as the PM heard that news, some cross words were exchanged. The last jaunt to the High Court did not end well for the Government. The Malaysia Solution is still sitting around like a dirty nappy that no one wants to change.

However, the PM came out with a smile, saying she has no idea what Clive Palmer is on about. The Carbon Tax is A-OK (legally speaking).

“Clive Palmer says something one day and Tony Abbott parrots it the next. Clive Palmer tells Tony Abbott what to do,” she said.

“If Clive Palmer is going to take a court case and Tony Abbott is going to back him in, well so be it. It will be part of their hysterical campaign against putting a price on carbon.”

Clive Palmer tweeted back to the PM: “Shame on Gillard and Swan for criticising me for exercising a constitutional right to challenge their ill-conceived carbon tax.”

Julia Gillard simply says, “The billionaires don’t tell us what to do.”

The battle rages on…

So, over to you. What do you think?

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  2. Kate

    Cracker of a post MM – well done! Love the political article Lauren – very informative.

    Interesting to see the opposition trying to characterise the attack on big miners as picking on Australian aspiration. What crap. I dont know anyone who aspires to ge around in a private jet like Gina Rhinehart does. Its about time someone took to task these bloated individuals and their attempts to pervert democracy. Their tv ads that talk about all the good things big mining companies do in communities are intended to paint these huge rich companies as little more than charities, and are the clever and insidious tool of the billionaire’s battle for the heart’s of voters. I am really hoping the Australian poeple have the intelligence to see through it. And also Clive Palmer as he takes the debate round climate change to new lows.

    Very sad about Margaret Whitlam. Imagine the grief of the partner left behind, after a lifetime partnership. Just another of those things about being old, thaht you wouldnt wish on your worst enemy. Thinking of Gough today.

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  3. Ronnie

    I had the great pleasure of meeting Margaret Whitlam a few decades ago. When I was principal of an inner-city disadvantaged school I was invited to the Town Hall’s 150th celebration.
    I took my elderly mother as a guest. Mum’s quite tiny and got chatting to Mrs Whitlam, who took quite a shine to her. What an odd looking pair they made. When Mrs Whitlam heard that mum lived alone she got the waiter to pack up some of the delicious nibbles so they could be enjoyed later.
    Mrs Whitlam also amazed me with her knowledge about the problems disadvantaged students can face.
    Truly an inspirational lady. I’m glad she lasted 92 years.

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    • Kate!

      What a lovely story. What a kind, humble, thoughtful gesture of Margaret, in arranging for the nibblies to go home with your mum.

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  4. Dennis

    “The Malaysia Solution is still sitting around like a dirty nappy that no one wants to change.” WTF???

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  5. Lou 1 (ish)

    A question to Lauren Dubois please. Why are you relating this story as a “battle” and a “War”?
    This is a disagreement between the government of the day and some people who oppose the mining tax and the carbon tax. There is no battlefront or battlefield.
    I’ve heard so many stories lately referring to disagreements various levels of governments have with particular groups as wars and battles. Ease up a little. Please

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  6. Lou 1 (ish)

    Not sure if it’s just me as I haven’t read all the comments below, but the tennis player above is Ken Rosewall, not John Wu.

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  7. Kathy

    Cyclone Lua doesn’t make the news section? And a sleep study does?! I don’t want to be one of those people complaining about the news section because I know you can’t possibly include everything! You do a fantastic job! I can’t help but think a category 4 cyclone with towns on red alert and residents taking shelter is worth a line or two?! It’s making the news every 15 minutes in WA!

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    • Rick Morton

      This is the news section from Friday Kathy, updated this morning with the sad news of Margaret’s passing. I’m keeping a watch on the cyclone situation, trust me, and will see how it plays out. We can’t be an emergency broadcaster in situations like this – thank the Gods for ABC local radio on that front – but we will keep an eye on things :)

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      • Kathy

        Sorry I didn’t realise it was Fridays one updated! Yes the ABC are doing a great job I suppose there really is no need for you to repeat what they said! It might weaken anyway! Sorry!

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  8. Susan As Well

    Vale Margaret. A truly great woman and human being who has left her mark on Australian society. Thinking of Gough and their family today. She will be missed immeasurably.

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  9. Anonymous

    I find it really amazing reading through the below comments that the biggest gripe people have against australian retail is service… it’s such an easy thing to fix in order to be competitive. people love the physicality of going shopping. the major reasons people seem to turn to online shopping is the fact that retailers make the shopping experience really unpleasant. I find as well that i turn online in complete frustration because i can’t find really basic things in shops. Like I decide that I need a new pair of basic black pants…. nothing that fits/ exists… or a basic jacket…. or a cardigan… nothing fashionable or exciting or designery…. just plain, decent quality basics…

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    • Lou 1 (ish)

      I found the latest comments from Myer recently really interesting. Their profit wasn’t as much as expected and it was being put down to on-line sales etc…my advice to the Myer bosses is start listening to your customers who don’t shop there any longer because there is no-one to serve them
      I went in to a Myer store recently and one set of fitting rooms were closed and I couldn’t find anyone to help me in another section. In yet another department the staff weren’t Myer staff, they were working for particular brands like Witchery and Country Road and trying to get someone to help you out of their “zone” was impossible.

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  10. essessesse

    I had the privilege of meeting Margaret Whitlam on a few occasions. She made a real impression on me, Genuine, warm, down to earth and just, oh, what do I say, just a real lady.

    Condolences to her family and friends. Gough will be bereft.

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  11. Loulee

    RIP Margaret Whitlam. She was an amazing woman. In fact one of the first really strong, educated, independent female role models I remember. Her and Gough seemed to have an equal partnership based on mutual respect.

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  12. alyssakt

    A man I work with is always looking for business ideas that he could import from China and sell here with a huge markup. Recently he was looking at buying a business that currently employs 9 staff locally – if he bought it he would immediately move manufacturing to China and those people would be unemployed.
    Sadly, that is the attitude – “how can I best look after ME?”

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  13. Anonymous

    There are so many issues with australian retail and there is no quick solution.

    * We are a small country (population) with limited buying power so we are always going to pay more for the production of goods – and have our production pushed out by bigger “more important” orders.
    * Where retailers are buying through “importers” there is a whole extra level of margin/service that adds cost
    * Where retailers are going direct to the factories overseas to do their purchasing, they are increasing their own costs (travel, design, quality assurance, earlier ownership hence payment for goods, shipping networks) plus they are demanding a higher level of margin – so not actually bringing prices down for the consumer.
    * Australia is expensive – labour rates, property prices (translates to high rents), transport (especially when you consider the physical size of australia and that most retailers charge the same price of goods whether you are in Perth or Melbourne, so we’re all paying for transport). All of this factors into the cost of goods purchased at bricks and mortar retailers.
    * I personally feel that there has been a move to buying and selling more second hand goods than in the past with eBay. Vintage has become a major fashion trend over the past however many years, and surely that’s got to be affecting new apparel sales?
    * I’d also love to know what the increase in market/homemade type products is. There seems to be a lot more trendy little markets around these days with these tiny businesses selling all manor of handmade or specially designed products. Websites like Etsy seem to be trading really well. While in some markets (eg. hardware) little businesses have been forced to close due to major retail takeover (Bunnings), I actually wonder whether little business is maybe making a comeback? I understand a lot of these wouldn’t be making a lot of money – but some of them are.

    One of my frustrations is that Australian websites charge the same prices for goods online and instore, but don’t offer free shipping for online purchases. If they set themselves up properly they could actually be closing some of their bricks and mortar stores, maintaining or even increasing their sales, and vastly reducing their overheads – resulting in higher profits – or god forbid, better pricing for us.

    I am still a bricks and mortar girl when it comes to clothing – I want to touch, feel and try on a garment before buying. But for toys, books, homewares, etc. as long as the website is legit and has decent policies, I’m happy to go online. Then again, when it comes to major electronics and things I want a decent warranty on – I still want to go bricks and mortar because if there’s ever a problem, I want to be able to walk back in to a store and deal with it, not deal with it online.

    Is it just me, or do other people find that the stuff they really want to buy online from OS doesn’t offer international shipping? Maybe that’s why I’m still out at my local shopping centre several times a week – keeping the Australian economy alive.

    One last thing I have to say – If I read one more article about Gerry Harvey telling me what to think/say/do I will flip! Does he actually want me to spend money in his stores to keep the economy alive, or because he still doesn’t have enough money and is just a greedy SOAB? I actually don’t even mind shopping at HN – quite often they’ve done better deals for us than anywhere else – but I really object to his sob stories in the media every other week. I just can’t feel sorry for him… not in the slightest.

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    • Lou 1 (ish)

      Bought an item at HN recently and discovered that his stores aren’t all HN. The man leases out floor space to other manufacturers.
      I can’t stand his whining

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  14. Jade

    I work in a bookstore and we are really feeling the pinch , this week we have all had our hours cut. I think online has had some effect but Its definitely not the only cause the shopping centre where we are based is empty and it doesn’t help that other stores are closing there doors so even less people want to shop somewhere in which a quarter of the shops ate now gone .
    Please support your local shops we offer the service u don’t get online , I also think shopping centre owners have to look at helping retailers rather than in our case increasing rents and having empty shops everywhere

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    • princesstan

      Genuine question Jade…why do book stores charge full price for a book when the K Mart or Target across the road can sell it for 35% cheaper? Is it their buying power? I love book stores, it would be so sad to see them close.

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      • Lou

        A lot of the time, K Mart, Target etc are selling the books at cost price. They rely on you coming in to buy the book, then also buying a new lipstick or shirt or even just a chocolate bar to make their profit. Obviously, it’s a lot more difficult for book stores to do the same

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        • Jade

          It’s just as Lou said , and at times they sell them below cost just to get you in , I’ve worked. In the book industry for 13 years and it’s never been , but I believe bookstores will survive somehow :)

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          • lucindainthesky

            I would hate to sound discouraging Jade, since it is your job on the line, but I think bookstores are on the way out like music store. E-books are going to take over eventually because they are so so so much cheaper to buy, and once you get used to e-readers is so convenient. Technology is killing the retail world!

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            • ladylaura

              I think bookstores in Australia are doing it tough because they are just so expensive compared to buying from the bookdepository.co.uk. Not 100% sure on the facts but I’ve heard its the way the government taxes books.

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        • Anonymous

          Also they bulk-buy all the bestsellers, and thus get cheaper deals. Whereas an independent bookstore may only buy a few dozen of a popuar book at a time. So they pay more to start with.

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    • Faybian

      I agree with the rent thing. It’s just short sighted insanity. They’re trying to keep investors in dividends and the only way they can is by increasing rents when the vacancy rate is up.
      Yes princesstan! The big department stores have buying power and can afford to lose money on one area of sales, as other areas will bring in money. So they can quite ruthlessly undercut the book stores with their prices.

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  15. Siobhan

    Retailers in Australia need to start waking up to themselves – being more competitive and offering much better customer service (oh, and in the case of clothing stores, putting mirrors and flattering lighting in the dressing rooms!!). The world is changing dramatically and they need to find ways of moving forward and giving customers a reason to start shopping in retail stores again.

    Recently, I bought a jacket online for $120 (ordered from the US on a Friday afternoon, and delivered by courier to my door at 11am on Monday morning). The following day, I walked past a boutique in Surry Hills that was selling exactly the same jacket for $650. There’s no way I would have paid five times the price just to support the Australian economy – especially not when I feel like retailers here often inflate their prices to a ridiculous degree.

    I remember shopping at Bloomingdale’s in LA a few years ago. They were having a huge clothing sale (I think everything was marked 50% off), and I picked up a number of items. As a side note, one thing I love about shopping in the US is that they offer a much wider variety of sizes – most department stores and larger labels have petite ranges, ranges for tall women, ranges for plus size women etc. Anyway, when I took the clothes I wanted to purchase to the counter, the very helpful and super-friendly sales assistant told me that it was my lucky day, as they were surprising all their customers with an additional 20% off everything on top of the 50%, but only telling customers when they got to the checkout. Those are the kind of retail experiences you remember, and Australia would do well to learn some lessons in customer service from other countries like the US and Japan.

    Now that I have two children, shopping in stores has lost a lot of its lustre. I’m always in a rush and feeling flustered, and just want to get in and out as quickly as possible before my children smear vegemite on the walls! Also, there’s nothing worse than trekking into the city with two small children to buy one or two items, only to discover that they’re not in stock, and you’re told chirpily to ‘try again tomorrow’. That’s the main reason I buy most things online these days, with price being a big factor as well. When I do shop in stores, I tend to support small, local shops (as well as pop up shops and one-off markets) that still offer something different, and provide good, personalised customer service.

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  16. roserusso

    I love the view from Canberra!

    Lauren, your writing is so witty! Love it.

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  17. Kate

    A shirt at Country Road costs $89.95 and yet they make them for 45 cents. Yes it’s true. I know because I worked there.
    How can they say that it’s okay?
    Meanwhile I buy online, the costs are less and the service is fine and most of them will let me return if it isn’t right.
    Retail is a shitty career and I would never recommend anyone do it for a long time. It sucks your soul.

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    • Anon

      come on… 45 cents? exaggerate much?

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    • lucy

      there are millions of jobs in retail, and many different aspects that go into selling the product. A company needs to make money to cover the costs and the staff so of course they have to charge their stuff at a higher rate. A lot of stores go through the wholesaler who sells the clothes on, so the fabric and labour to physically make a tshirt may be 45cents but there is the shipping and company costs of the manufacturer who then need to make a profit and sell it for 110% to the retailer who then sell it up so that they too can make a profit. There is so much more that goes into it and wanting to be able to pay 45cents for a tshirt is not the best way to save those peoples jobs.

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    • Dominic

      Kate,

      45c is a load of old cobblers. The fabric costs more than that per metre, regardless of shirt style. At least 80cm average yield per shirt per lay per delivery when using 150cm wide fabric and auto marker making, laser cutting and semi automated machining, all in use in Chinese factories today. Minimum fabric cost will be 85c per metre for a rotten Poly Cotton flat weave as used in industrial wear, not fashion fabrics.

      The landed cost of the shirt that retails at $89.95 will be approximately $35 and will then have GST, duty and customs charges roughly another $5.00 per shirt.

      Lets add in all overhead costs of retail now and CR are lucky to make about a 5% net profit, less tax of 30% of the 5% and the Net Profit After Tax is about 3.5% of the original $89.95.

      Total bottom line after all is said and done, the shareholders made $3.15 from that shirt.

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    • Guest

      CR lost me. I used to buy heaps of good quality well structured basics. The foundations for your wardrobe you pair with flashier stuff bought from other, trendier labels. But their prices seem to have gone up hugely while quality has gone down and the clothes have become unflattering (so much baggy stuff!) and so boring to the point my conservative mother commented they were dull. You just walk into the store and get the feeling of ‘blah’.

      I don’t know about the price of the clothes to make but I did hear that they manufactured lesser quality products specially for their outlet store in Richmond (not sure if it still exists) which people were buying thinking they were genuine discounted or last seasons items. Sometimes I would see last seasons items in the stores but I also saw items that were dreadful quality and could no way have ever been sold in the real stores.

      Plus their service has always been cold. I say this having shopped there a lot over the years, as a young female, at various stores. When I was younger service didn’t matter to me as much, if I liked the item that is all that mattered. Now I am more selective about who gets my hard earned dollars.

      Also, as someone who has recently gone from a size 10 to a size 16 retail might find they had more business if I could actually find a clothing label that wants my business. I do like Target, have no issues shopping there, but sometimes you want something special or a bit nicer but often I have no choice but to buy clothes at Target because only a handful of the major chains make larger sizes.

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      • Jackie

        I have given up on CR as well, I don’t get how they stock xxs but not xxl….

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  18. Jackie

    I heard on the ABC last week that only 12% of online shopping goes to OS stores, so retailers cant blame the net, mabye they should look at service & stock.
    P.S
    that close up of Pam is scarey.

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  19. Kate Ritchie

    Reading the comments I feel like I”m the only person who still shops at…the shops!

    Going into the city and wandering around the big department stores then stopping for a coffee and some people watching in a laneway cafe is still one of my favourite activities. The allure of the big city never fades for me, and the big department stores are part of it. I remember how awestruck I used to be by the bustle and the glamour of DJs and Myer when I was a little girl on trips to Sydney or Melbourne…I think I am still that little girl!

    I like the whole experience. Chatting to the shop assistants, sniffing a new perfume here, trying on a way out of my budget outfit there. It’s just not the same online – although the savings some people are making sound pretty amazing!

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  20. Profiterole

    Needed to go shopping recently for a dress for a wedding. Pretty wide criteria; just had to be not either purple (bridesmaids) or white, of course. SO I thought pink or blue would be nice.
    Trawled Chadstone for a day, the biggest shopping centre in the universe (or something like that) and found absolutely nothing I liked or that was suitable.
    Went home defeated and went on ASOS. Found two dresses pretty quickly, bought them both for the price that one goes for here. They arrived the other day and I love them both.
    So I tried! I reckon that whatever fashion is in Aus right now, I just don’t like/doesn’t suit me.

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    • Anonymous

      Hi Profiterole!Are the ASOS sizes UK?I am a UK 14 or AUS 12?I would like to buy some things from ASOS but can’t tell what sizes they are.

      Thanks!

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      • HB

        They usually specify, in my experience.

        Then, once you set up an account, the site automatically defaults to AUD when you log in.

        Happy shopping :-)

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      • Profiterole

        Hi!
        Yeah, they do specify pretty well, I’ve found it all very easy to work. They have a size guide which translates all different sizes, UK vs USA vs Euro vs Aus, with measurements as well. UK is the one they use most commonly, which is the same as Aus. So I’m a 10 here and a UK10 as well. As far as I can tell. I’ve bought lots of stuff and they’ve always been right. Have fun!

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        • Anonymous

          Hi

          Thanks so much for your reply!

          I will have a look now!

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  21. Anna

    Retailers in Australia need to get competitive. That’s the only way to keep people shopping locally. Why is it that I can buy a watch from Bloomingdales for $200 cheaper that I can buy it at David Jones? The Aussie dollar has been strong for a couple of years now so that isn’t the reason. If Aussies are buying online – it shows that they are prepared to spend money. We just don’t want to have to spend more than we need to because of greedy retailers.

    Cut your prices, be competitive, and we will continue to shop at your stores.

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  22. eternally

    Shopping ethically is hard. For a while I got sucked in by the ‘shopping is good to stimulate the economy’ vibe, and went out wandering the shops as a form of entertainment. But these days I am overwhelmed by how much stuff we have (in world terms, anyone who has more than one pair of shoes is rich), and the environmental impact of that. Having a baby has made me much more aware of this too.
    I would prefer to shop locally, and help keep people employed, but on the other hand, shops are not charities, and I don’t want to shop for the sake of shopping, or buy stuff I don’t need that just adds to clutter (and more boxes when we move house).
    I’m also really into second hand stuff (especially for baby, can save a fortune) so am going through a major eBay phase.

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  23. katherine anne

    Love the view from Canberra. :)

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  24. happyface

    We think it is bad now, it is only going to get much, much worse.
    When the carbon tax kicks in we will see our electricity and gas costs skyrocket. A business has huge service bills ours (small restaurant) is almost $3000 pm for electricity and $1400 for gas. God only knows how much this will increase come carbon tax. Plus all our goods will go up as they are delivered by road. Plus 5% pay increases come July.
    The impact on any business is huge. Can you imagine how much Myer’s electric bill is per month???
    We are locked into huge rents and prices of everything keep going up, yet customers want to pay less! I am no different, but people forget the costs here are huge just to open your doors compared to buying overseas where labour & running costs are much lower.
    Only the strong will survive and I imagine many more big names will be closing soon. :-(

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    • Anon

      I know of one Aussie owned company who employs people in a regional centre. Their electricity bill is 40 million. Throw in high wages and the carbon tax and we could easily lose another company overseas. A move to the US would half their electricity costs and reduce their wages bill. It would be a huge blow to a regional centre but also to hospitals and charities who benefit to the tune of millions of dollars annually.

      The other problem is the lack of confidence in the consumer. Personally, as soon as I heard that Rudd was going to save us from the GFC with pink batts I knew the lunatics had taken over the asylum and I shut my purse tight and I won’t be opening it till they’re gone.

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    • Anonymous

      Electricity prices have gone up (and will keep going up) because of the cost of upgrading all the old infrastructure to meet peak demand which keeps on going up every year. There has not been enough investment in upgrades by both sides of government for years and years, hence why we are all paying for it now.

      Electricity is going to go up in price with or without the carbon tax. Don’t buy into Abbotts rhetoric that it’s just because of the carbon tax, that’s bullshit. There was a good discussion about this on ABC’s Insight program a few months back.

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  25. redqueen

    Australian retail still doesn’t get get it. People are sick of being ripped off and the non existent service. This is I why I continue to shop online.

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    • anon

      My partner works in retail. One of Harvey’s businesses. In his store, they are selling products for well below cost and it is still not cheap enough. I see where you’re coming from, everyone wants the cheapest product available to, but retail still needs to make a profit. The solution isn’t as easy as just making things cheaper.

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      • green trees

        i don’t think it’s true that everyone wants things cheap.

        Kmart’s current ads make me cringe. if you are selling things that cheaply then you are buying it very cheap from the manufacturer. which means that the manufacturer will be keeping their costs down by paying their staff next to nothing. these are usually people who don’t have many job options.

        i want a FAIR price. our dollar is strong and yet we pay way more for certain brands compared to the US. i would like to buy a Lancome Juicy Tube lip gloss for the same price (or close to) as you get the in the USA. Not 2.5 times the US price. Same with Levi’s, Converse, most makeup brands. I could go on but i think you get the picture.

        Not everyone wants cheap stuff but they don’t want to be ripped off either which is why they will shop online if it’s a good deal.

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        • jb expat

          I agree with Green Trees. When buying an identical product I want a fair price…not something that I could get via a US website that is way cheaper even with shipping factored in – I have even found this to be the case with Aus online sales (the daily ones that get sent to you via email) – I compare them with US prices and the Aus SALES prices are still more expensive…also, it costs me less in terms of shipping to have a friend in the US send something over than most Aus sites charge for local shipping! I think Aus has a long way to go in terms of online shopping – most websites are designed poorly, bad return policies, and expensive shipping….so it’s not even just price that’s the problem – it’s way more than that.

          Also, I happily pay more for quality products (that come with good service). But I’ll pay more for an organic cotton baby item than a Target made in China cotton baby item. Cheap isn’t always good…but fair is fair.

          OH – and I’ve been in David Jones with a product in hand and stand there trying to find a staffed cash register – ended up putting the item down, walked out, purchased it online … they make it so hard to support them even when you are ready to buy.

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          • tallicachild

            Completely agree with this.
            I would be more likely to shop in store if there was an element of service still there. Admittedly, not all shops are lacking in this area, and those shops where I get good service will continue to get my money.

            Similar story to DJ’S – was in Sydney City Myer buying perfume for my sister’s birthday. The lady asked if I’d like her to put it at the checkout counter, to which I replied “yeah, please that’d be good, thanks”. I noticed just next to the counter another display with ‘gift pack’ perfumes. I wandered over to check them out, thinking maybe that would be a better gift than a single bottle of perfume.
            The lady who took my bottle to the counter snapped at me “ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THIS!?”

            I just looked at her in disbelief…they had a chance to possibly make more money out of me, but her rude attitude assured they got nothing.

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          • tallicachild

            Completely agree with this.
            I would be more likely to shop in store if there was an element of service still there. Admittedly, not all shops are lacking in this area, and those shops where I get good service will continue to get my money.

            Similar story to DJ’S – was in Sydney City Myer buying perfume for my sister’s birthday. The lady asked if I’d like her to put it at the checkout counter, to which I replied “yeah, please that’d be good, thanks”. I noticed just next to the counter another display with ‘gift pack’ perfumes. I wandered over to check them out, thinking maybe that would be a better gift than a single bottle of perfume.
            The lady who took my bottle to the counter snapped at me “ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THIS!?”

            I just looked at her in disbelief…they had a chance to possibly make more money out of me, but her rude attitude assured they got nothing.

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        • Tis Only Me

          I also agree, why can I buy my preffered brand of foundation in Bali for $15 and here it is $38??

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        • Anonymous

          Things are cheaper in the USA and Canada and guess what? Minimum wage over there is $10 per hour for a casual over 21. Here? $21+ for over 21 year old. I know this cause I worked retail in Canada for 8 months. Ill never complain about earning $21 an hour again!

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    • happyface

      you can only sell things so cheap or you will be out of business very soon. Retail have huge rents, wages and operating costs to cover. To do this they have to sell at huge mark ups just to survive.

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      • Cath

        As a small retailer, I just don’t know how some of the international sites do it. I saw jeans the other day for 15 pounds with free shipping to Australia! I can’t buy them wholesale for that, let alone cover rent, staff, utilities etc. We work so hard at providing excellent customer services, reasonable prices, quality products and fast, affirdable postage for online orders and we are still getting flogged – and I mean flogged… our online sales are down 30% from 2010! So frustrating trying to work out what we are doing wrong. The US and European companies are delighted to have a clearance avenue for their end of season stock, have much better buying power (their customer bases are up to 15 times larger than ours – that’s a LOT more people to sell to!), no GST, no duties… which can add nearly 25% to the cost of a clothing product alone. This small Aussie retailer is not trying to rip anyone off, we at trying to survive. Did you know that if a customer buys from my business in the US, the US imposes a $10 surcharge on postage? It’s for their ‘security’ apparently. One small clothing item costs me $25 to post to the US…. how can we possibly compete on a global stage when the odds are stacked like this?

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  26. nic la

    That headline is terrible, it doesn’t make sense.

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    • Rick Morton

      LOL, I just saw this. Yes! I read it back to myself when I got in the office and said to myself ‘what on Earth was I thinking’?

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  27. C

    I went to the shops on the weekend and it cost me $4 for 30 minutes of parking. When I got to the shop I wanted to go to, a sign on the window said “back in 15 minutes”. I waited around for a bit, but no one returned.

    Walked back to the car a found a $50 parking fine. I was 10 minutes late back to my car.

    Unsuccessful shopping trip = $54. FML. I wished I just stayed at home.

    Funny thing, last few times I’ve shopped online I’ve bought from AUSTRALIAN websites. Still, I shop instore more than I do online. The ratio of spend online to in person is still 1:4 in favour of conventional retail.

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  28. An Idle Dad

    Tony Abbott was espeically brilliant last night when asked if Clive Palmer was right and the carbon tax was unconstitutional. He started with “Look, I’m no lawyer…” He’s got a law degree, is a Rhodes scholar on Politics and has 18 years of federal government experience. Really, Tony? You’ve no idea?

    If you want to see the scale of mining donations to the LNP, see them here: http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/02/21/the-rise-and-rise-of-mining-company-donations/

    What he really means is: the law is completely valid, Clive’s got no chance.

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    • The wounded bull

      There is no politician alive that will cast judgement on a case yet to go before the courts. Get real ID, you should know better.

      And it is every citizens right to test the law on anything. I am sure Clives highly paid legal team have a better grasp on the issue and strength of argument than you, with respect.

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      • Lulu

        And I’m sure “Clives highly paid legal team” knows who is paying their salary.

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        • The wounded bull

          With your point being….? Any lawyer alive that does not support their client should not be practising law. Even legal aid lawyers support their clients to the best degree possible. Your comment is meaningless.

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      • An Idle Dad

        ?? Are you sure? Pollies comment on court cases all the time.

        In fact, here’s one commenting directly on it.

        http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/tony-abbott-backs-clive-palmer-on-high-court-carbon-tax-challenge/story-e6freooo-1226300093423

        Different message for a different audience, but that’s this guy’s style.

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        • The wounded bull

          There is a big difference in supporting someones right to test the law in court and passing comment on what the result should be.

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          • An Idle Dad

            I agree that there is a big difference between those things.

            To quote you: There is no politician alive that will cast judgement on a case yet to go before the courts. Get real ID, you should know better.

            From the article: “I certainly think that there are some constitutional issues,” Mr Abbott said.

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    • The wounded bull

      How much do the unions donate to labor ID, or is it ok that way around because it is the ID rightous side and all.

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      • An Idle Dad

        I love it when you write righteous, WB.

        I’m not a union member but unions represent millions of Australians – about 20% of the working population and their families. Clive Palmer does not. Sure, it is every citizen’s right to challenge anything in the High Court, but in this case it’s some citizens are a little more equal than others. If it weren’t so, why didn’t you launch the challenge?

        Of course unions have an influence on Labor policy. The Labor part was formed by unions, for goodness’ sakes.

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        • Kris2040

          I don’t get it when people cry foul about Unions and the Labor Party supporting each other and being linked. Of course they are. Why doesn’t anyone cry foul about Lib/Nats being linked with Chambers of Commerce or similar? Why is it OK for one group to have collective representation and support but not others?

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          • Anon

            The unions and the ALP are cesspits. They protect and cover each other. Concerns for the worker come very low on their list of priorities.

            The shredding of evidence to deny justice to an Aboriginal teenage raped in state custody is a prime example.

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          • Dominic

            Because the Libs and Nats aren’t linked to Chambers of Commerce and collective representation is not available to employers when negotiating with unions. The FWA is a farce and the government uses selective evidence to implement changes at the requests of the unions

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    • Kris2040

      I caught Karl interviewing him today on er, Today. Very similar type of thing – crying because the govt have put that Gonski dude in charge of the future fund and they wanted Peter Costello, but also wanted Gonski? It was laughable.

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    • Anon

      I’m right behind Clive Palmer on this. I hope he wipes the floor with them.

      As for Wayne’s ‘divide and conquer’ mentality of bashing the big banks and billionaries!!! Is he serious? He has two chances of gathering back the reins of our debt – Buckley’s and F All and without the taxes paid by our billionaires we are all up Labor Creek without a paddle.

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      • An Idle Dad

        Sorry, I’m confused. So we’re all up ‘labor creek without a paddle’ without the tax paid by billionaires and mining companies, and your argument is that the budget will balance if they contribute less?

        My stance is that mining companies should pay more when they are making super profits (and when they are making super profits only), but I disagree with using that money to make tax cuts. Using a cyclical governement income (super profits will come and go, if history is anything to go by) to cut regular government income is a silly, silly thing to do.

        The super profits income should be towards things like paying off debt or tucking it into a future fund or funding infrastructure projects. Labor IS playing divide and conquer by linking the super profits tax to small business tax cuts, but the super tax is the right way forward.

        My jaw still hits the floor that the Liberal Party doesn’t agree with the super tax as sound economic policy – in terms of going against traidtional party stance, it’s like Labor dropping the minimum wage to $5 an hour.

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        • laurend

          Idle Dad, I think everyone’s confused at the moment because neither party is doing what comes naturally to them (well, except the Greens). They are so busy playing politics that they aren’t staying true to their traditional party values. It’s weird for all of us to try and comprehend!

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      • An Idle Dad

        Just to bring some alternative viewpoints into the debate:

        Record investment in mining currently underway, putting lie to the idea that miners will ‘go elsewhere’ to get their minerals:
        http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-30/australia-business-investment-gains-most-in-15-years-on-mining.html

        WA gets record mining investment, labeled one of the best places in the world to invest by independant body, premier only spins it as they could have gotten more if there was no mining tax!
        http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-01/moore-blames-mining-tax-for-hampering-investment/3862016

        Australia has a two speed economy. Mining and everyone else
        http://www.theage.com.au/business/victoria-slumps-as-mining-soars-20120301-1u61a.html

        From the article:
        “In a stunning development, the Bureau of Statistics reports that mining companies are now investing more money than all other sectors of Australian business combined. A decade ago, mining accounted for just 20 per cent of business investment.

        The boom is confined to just two states, with 86 per cent of mining investment going into Western Australia and Queensland, primarily to mine natural gas, iron ore and coal.”

        Tony Abbott praises the Australian economy while overseas. You are falling for politics over substance.

        All my relatives live in WA. If you aren’t in the mining industry, you’re being crushed because the money from the mining industry is driving all the prices up. The ‘total’ stats look great, for anyone who isn’t a miner, it’s not so cheery. Those mining towns aren’t cheering about the mining boom, they’re all suffering. Rent at $2000 a week – how’s a police officer or teacher going to afford that? The mining employees aren’t investing in that town – they live in Sydney and Melbourne and even Bali (as the SMH reported). When the mine moves on, so do these employees. The ‘local town’ gets nothing.

        I’m not anti-mining, but one sector cannot be allowed to become the dominate force in an economy. We need to ease off the gas, not put the foot to the floor.

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        • borogirl

          I always find it interesting when the mining companies threaten to go offshore. Ummm, aren’t all the minerals in a big hole in the ground in Australia or am I missing something??

          I’d like to see the extra money go into education at all levels so that when the mines do finish we have a smart nation who can achieve something more than digging holes in the ground…

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  29. lucindainthesky

    I think pricing is only one factor influencing people into shopping online. I think the biggest reason is convenience. I for one, hate “real” shopping. I hate having to take 20 minutes to find somewhere to park, I hate braving thick crowds of people who seem to have less and less social skills or consideration of anyone else these days, I hate waiting 15 minutes in a store just to get acknowledged, I hate when I know exactly what I want and not being able to find it, I hate when clueless staff are untrained and can’t answer simple questions and you know they are just making something up on the spot, I hate standing in a queue of umpteen people waiting to pay when I finally do find something, and FINALLY at the end, I hate knowing I have just paid way more for something than I could have paid on ebay when I probably didn’t even end up buying the product I really wanted anyway. I have sworn to doing ALL my christmas shopping online this year. I like the fact that online I can do all my research easily and get all my questions answered at the click of a button, and if I can’t find what I want in one store I can find it 30 seconds later without moving an inch in another store. Also, re: international shopping, I’d try to buy from online Australian retailers more, but have noticed their shipping timeframes are often up to shite. I live in regional Qld and can get something shipped from the US faster than I can get something from Sydney, and that pisses me off to no end. If someone in another country can process my order on the same day and i can get it on standard shipping in a week, then there is no need for it to take three weeks from inside Australia – especially not when I am probably paying more money for it.

    Australia just needs to lift its game with online shopping and the demise of physical shopping won’t hurt retailers so much.

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    • Anonymous

      I did all my Christmas shopping online last year, brilliant, I’ve already started online Christmas shopping for this year!! Definately better than dealing with rude and ignorant shop assistants.

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    • Susan

      I did all my Christmas shopping online last year. Made for some sweaty moments as Aus Post struggled to cope and some retailers – eg Big W, usually very good online – went into meltdown. Hopefully this year the delivery system will work better…

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      • Kris2040

        I’ve had two hopeless experiences with BigW online and their delivery. Hopeless. Which is a shame because I like Big W (especially now KMart just have their cheapo rubbish own brands) but the crappy experience really left a bad taste in my mouth.

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        • eternally

          I find it scary how cheap and nasty the stuff at Kmart is. Likely to end up in landfill so quickly!
          Not to mention how little the poor people who make the stuff must get paid.

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          • green trees

            i’m with you.

            also, i HATE their ads. why do they only have woman in them? i can’t remember if the focus on the ads is also being a mum but that makes me even more pissy (even though i am a mum). do they really think only woman go shopping? or that only mums do? do they also assume that woman/mums want cheap stuff? it’s so insulting. i don’t want their cheap shite and i won’t shop there anymore.

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          • jec

            I saw a report on ACA or TT (can’t remember which one as both seem the same!) about how K Mart are keeping their prices low by manufacturing their own brand lines in China and importing them without the “middle man”. Other brands (apart from the K Mart brand) are being sourced directly, once again without the “middle man” making the prices higher. Apparently the standards are still the same whether it’s their own brand or not. What I’ve just written is the opinion of the TV report, not my own! Personally I find some products & items worth buying at K Mart, it’s just a matter of being selective.

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  30. vee

    Hahaha @ “interconnected homing pigeon network” !! So lol’ed at that :)

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  31. erin23

    It’s no wonder that retail is in decline – half the time when I walk into a shop, I don’t even get acknowledged or receive any type of service that would justify paying the markup on a product as opposed to buying it online. Retailers need to start thinking smarter and change their tactics in light of the boom in online shopping. Nothing is going to replace the tangible sensory experience of walking into a shop and touching/tasting/feeling an item, you just need to give your customers the love and attention they deserve and they’ll keep coming back. I know I’d willingly pay a bit extra for great service, store warranties, etc.

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    • little jojo

      Agreed. If I don’t even get acknowledged when walking into a store, I walk straight back out. I don’t expect sales assistants to rush to my side immediately, but a simple smile and hello wouldn’t kill them – especially when they aren’t even serving anyone else!

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      • princesstan

        I am the opposite. As soon as I get the fake “how you going DARL?”!!! I walk straight back out. I like shopping where I don’t have to talk to sales assistants…and when I was one myself I never used the word Darl.

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        • Kris2040

          Same. They need to be there, but I don’t need them up in my face. If I need help, I’ll ask for it!

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        • little jojo

          Oh I agree with you on that! I don’t want to be patronised nor smothered. But I think a simple acknowledgement that you are in the shop is a good thing, rather than being ignored.

          Like a said, just a smile or ‘Hi’ (definitely no DARL or LOVE!) :)

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        • erin23

          urrghh I hate that!!!!!! “Hi, how are you?” is fine when I walk in, but please leave the overly friendly terms of endearment out of it!!!!!

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        • Cate

          Same here, it just sets my teeth on edge!

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    • Anonymous

      Couldn’t agree more!!

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      • princesstan

        Yes! Darl or Love is a term of endearment, it shouldn’t be said to me by 16 year olds in Diva!!
        You don’t know me let alone love me…. Instant turn around for me!

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  32. Becnherboys

    Seriously? Do they still think people are shopping online to save 10%? 10% is not worth my time really. I am after a Marc Jacobs bag, in DJ’s that bag is $1500. Online in the US I have seen it for $499. Why on earth would I pay $1500? This is why people are shopping online. I was in Myer last night, I went to three different counters just to find someone to pay for the one little item I wanted. That is why I shop online. I wear a size 18-20 Australian retailers don’t want me to wear their clothes. UK retailers love me and even give me free shipping. That is why I shop online. 10% GST has nothing to do with it!

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    • MaryV

      I have had the same experience with Myers. Sometimes I have walked the whole floor just to find a cash register that is open.

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      • Eloise

        This. I found a Marc Jacobs bag I loved in DJs for $800 and paid $420 through shopbop.com. Australian morter & bricks retail is a joke.

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        • Jess C

          I just spent way too long swooning over Diane VF dresses on shopbop!

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    • Susan

      I hear ya on the size thing. I am a 16 – gargantuan I know – and have size 11 feet. I loved shopping in the US where I was reaching for the middle of the rack, not the back, and shoes came in three bigger sizes than mine. I could find clothing and footwear that looked contemporary and didn’t make me look like I was trying to hide a multitude of sins. Oh and didn’t have to chase someone down to give them my money.

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    • I know – I’m about to go to the US for a holiday, and someone told me I could probably get a Marc Jacobs back for under $500 over there.

      Plus looking online, at their Forever 21 store (which I’m not sure is an equivalent of Supre or slightly higher quality…) it is significantly cheaper, like $50 for a top is expensive! Anddd one of my colleagues told me that she got a DKNY top at century 21 in NY for $60! That would be over $150 here!

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      • ParisChic

        Not to mention the make up prices! My US friends can’t believe how much more we pay here.

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      • sarah jane

        I brought at DKNY dress in the US for $50.00! My boyfriend got some Ralph Lauren Polos for like, $30.00!! There are so many outlet malls in the states where the prices are even better, and Century 21 is also awesome.

        And make sure you stock up on makeup, Sephora is heaven… I miss it so!

        Enjoy your trip, I loved America.

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    • Guest

      We pay too much for many products but to compare prices to America is a dangerous game. Obviously a mark up on a bag of $1000 is ridiculous. There is certainly room to move on prices. But I get frustrated when people say oh well my mascara was $12 cheaper in the US but our dollar is stronger I’m being ripped off. The minimum wage varies from state to state in the US but many retail workers are living on $7 an hour. Their costs of living may not be as high as ours but it doesn’t even out.

      America has a giant underclass of working poor who barring being born with sporting prowess will stay that way for generation after generation as things like education so they can get a better job are out of reach. Is that the country Australia wants to be? The only way prices can come down significantly is to reduce the minimum wage. Labour costs drive prices in Australian service industries. We are not a bunch of individuals who just all happen to live in the same spot. We are a society. Everyone benefits when there is equality. What good is there in having a cheaper mascara when it comes at such a cost to society. Look at America, look at China, do you we want to be like that just to save a buck?

      I understand being upset when you are genuinely ripped off and there has been a lot of that in Australia but in many cases prices in Australia are fair because our ethos as a nation is supposed to be about supporting each other, not survival of the fittest.

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  33. Ally

    Jesus hung out with lepers, prostitutes and the ostracised, St Francis denounced material wealth to serve God, and this guy gets his own cologne. I love catholicism.

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    • Craig

      To be fair, most Catholic priests and nuns are pretty poor. Like any big business it’s only those at the top who get the real money. And not just Catholics, many evangelical pastors are definitely in the 1%.

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  34. princesstan

    Australian retail prices are a rip off – we have become so expensive! Prices in the UK and US are much more reasonable these days and we are now the ones who are more expensive.
    With the dollar the way it is it shits me when I go into stores that have price tag that says the Australian price, UK price etc… Because they are not equivalent! So we get travel costs hiked onto it…ridiculous. For example Trinny and Susannah magic knickers..35 pounds in UK. Here? $135!!!! 35 pounds does not equal $135 it equates to around $50…so we are paying $85 for travel costs!

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    • An Idle Dad

      I think you haven’t taken into account that they are hand delivered one by one from overseas by an interconnected homing pigeon network.

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      • Kris2040

        And the pigeon network has REALLY strong Unions.

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        • An Idle Dad

          Exactly, not much use being a top-hat owning, cigar chomping, everyone-is-so-equal-and-to-prove-it-I-just-sued-the-government-so-I-will-pay-less-tax BMW owner, if thugs can organise a thousand birds to shit all over it.

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    • Anonymous

      They get paid half as much as we do in a retail position. $10 per hour if youre lucky – and thats for over 21s. They deserve cheaper prices when we are getting $21 per hour!!

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  35. Rach

    If the retail sector is in that much danger, then they need to put in place things that will entice shoppers into stores rather than online.

    For instance:
    Having the ability to look up both their own stock (some stores still don’t/can’t do this) or stock of the rest of the chain, then be able to order it in to your local store. Some stores do, some don’t. A lot of chains here in the US have a ‘ship to store’ deal, where you order what you want online, but actually purchase it from the store.
    In store deals, etc.
    Offering services as well as goods in stores (the cost of time vs the cost of actually purchasing goods)
    Not make ridiculous mark-ups using the excuse of ‘distance/shipping’.

    This last one gets my goat as a musician. We pay basically double for almost every supply (instruments, accessories, sheet music). Everything got marked up when the dollar dropped so low. But it never came back when we got to parity. Local music stores claim it is the cost of transport (which apparently, can take the cost of an instrument from $3000 in stores in the US to $5500 or more in stores in Australia.) I will only buy music supplies online because I am sick of getting ripped off in this way.

    Admittedly, I am not a retailer, but as a consumer these are the things I have observed that could be better.

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    • An Idle Dad

      Yup on the music stuff. Soprano ukulele strings at my local music shop $19.99. On eBay – $8 with free postage.

      Why is it websites can transfer more knowledge and convey more passion and answer more questions than a person in a store?

      Our local vegi store at Umina Beach has enthusastic owners, with a simple ‘no details required’ loyalty program. It gets heaps of custom, despite being across the road from a new shiny Woolworths (or Coles, I can never remember, it’s green – which one is that?)

      Local retailers should take note of this vegi store – it’s the future of retail.

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    • Anonymous

      Rach agree with everything you have said, however when it comes to the gap between what you pay here and in the USA there are a few things at play. For starters, your local music shop is probably not shipping in their guitars direct from the manufacturer. They are likely to be forced to purchase them via a locally established distributor who imports the goods and slaps on ther own profits before on selling to the stores you shop at. In saying that, if they didn’t have that agreement then we would be hard pressed to find the variety and range of products that we love as many Australian retailers are simply too small to support buying big quantities of specialized items direct from the factory.

      The USA on th other hand has a population that is over 13 times bigger than ours, so their purchasing power is a lot stronger. Couple that with lower wages and lower cost of living and yes, you are almost always going to get a better deal from the States than here at home.

      The difference in the USA to here? A dollar is a lot harder to come by for low income earners in the states so what you think is cheap is probably just as exxy.

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      • Anonymous

        “The difference in the USA to here? A dollar is a lot harder to come by for low income earners in the states so what you think is cheap is probably just as exxy.”

        This is so right, my university educated sister is currently working in LA for $7 per hour (visa severely restricts her options for employment). I don’t think I have ever had a job in Australia that paid such a low wage, even as a teenager with no skills. With that kind of income what I look at online and consider to be cheap, I have no doubt she would consider it to still be pretty expensive.

        Personally I get quite sick of people complaining how tough it is here. We actually have it pretty good. That bag that you don’t need costs heaps more in store than online? Boo freakin’ hoo.

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        • Cath

          Absolutely – its these comparisons that are missing from the debate. Say ab identical store to mine in the US, identical product cost, rent, utilities (all highly unlikely – but for comparison sake)…. to give our highly valued customers the same service we are paying nearly $23/hour casual rates compared to around $9/hour in the US. More than 2.5 times! I’m not begrudging our staff their rate of pay by any means, but stop hammering all Aussie retailers for ripping consumers off when the playing field is simply not an even one. Go online only? Still have to pay wages to staff to pick, pack and send, clean, admin etc etc. Add that to the fact that to be able to provide any of the stock we often have to buy through a middle man as our custom is simply deemed to insignificant for the international manufacturer to bother with (we have an incredibly small population on a global scale) and it is pretty easy to see why it is so difficult to compete. Not trying to whinge, just trying to point out that it is not as simple as ‘But I can get the same thing from a department store with the buying power that comes with servicing a population of 300 million as compared to 22 million, paying less than half in wages, no GST, no customs duties for half the price”. The fact is that there are a lot of people employed in retail here, a lot of people employed in the areas that service retail – there will be a flow on effect for many.

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      • Rach

        I would agree if this stuff was made in and coming from the US. But most of our instruments (good ones anyway) are made in Europe (France, Germany, Italy and England) and Japan. Reeds and cane are coming from France, China and Argentina. Brass accessories are coming from the UK. Strings are mostly European (and some Chinese).

        Yes, it is much harder to earn a dollar here in the US (minimum wage in Illinois is $8.25), but we are talking about global companies and identical products produced overseas. Housing here is cheaper (by about 75% in a lot of cases), groceries are cheaper (about 50%), most locally made goods are cheaper (GE appliances, etc). Technology for the most part is about the same price as Aust, fair enough as it is not produced in the US, it is imported like every other country.

        The other issue, which I forgot to mention, is the extraordinary markup on some items just because they are sold in Perth rather than Sydney or Melbourne. I understand the need to incorporate some of the transport costs, but sometimes it is exorbitant. Using music as an example, a box of French clarinet reeds in Perth is $65. The same box in Melbourne (I have bought boxes in both these places, by the way) is $45. It is cheaper for me to purchase online from Melbourne and pay $5 postage than spend time and petrol and extreme markups going to a local music store. That same box of French reeds is $25 here in the US.

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