My one-year-old and I love the doorbell. It means there’s a surprise. Our ears prick up and we race to the door. A courier! The best surprise of all.
We sit on the porch and open the box. New shoes in a cardboard box. I love the shoes. My toddler loves the box. We’re both thrilled.
Shopping with my family has changed. A lot.
Years ago, a day at the shops with my Nan was the ultimate treat. We’d always come home with a handful of red and white bags from Gracies (i.e. Grace Bros), a stack of lollies from Darrell Lea and a belly full of house sandwiches from the DJ’s cafe.
I’ll never shop like that again. And I’m getting a little nostalgic after Premier Investments announced they’re closing up to 50 of their stores. These stores were the cornerstone of my teenage wardrobe. Just Jeans: my first pair of “cool” pants. Portmans: my first work suit. Dotti: my first party dress. But now, these shops – all shops – are an endangered species.
And I’m to blame. I grew up. I moved on. Online. It’s quick, sexy, cheap and exciting. A day at the shops is a thing of the past.
But sometimes I get the guilts. I see Megan Gale staring at me from the back of a bus or Jen Hawkins in some junk mail with a look in her eye that says “why don’t you want to be friends anymore?”
Days later I’m pushing a pram around an empty department store. And it’s hard work. Clothes are spewing from hundreds of sales racks, the counters look lonely and Kenny G-style tunes tinkle from the roof. Huff. So uninspiring. So desperate.
Who wants to drop their money here? I did, until about 18 months ago. I went to my favourite department store to set up our bridal registry.
The manager gave me a clipboard and a pencil and told me when I saw an item I’d like to add to our list, to “write down the 12 number barcode, the name of the product, the description and the price in the appropriate boxes”.
WTF? Isn’t there some sort of machine for this job? I didn’t complain and instead cursed myself for being typically Gen Y.
So impatient. But it was the beginning of the end.
Now, I buy everything online. And most of my neighbours do the same. Twice a week, the Coles and Woolies trucks sweep through the neighbourhood and every day there are at least two couriers delivering boxes with everything from furniture to frocks.
There’s no doubt, I owe a lot to Myer and DJs. Some of my fondest memories were spent at the shops with my Nan and my Mum. Not anymore. Dearest shops, thanks for the memories. Rest In Peace.
Because these days, I’m much happier shopping online at home. I save a few extra dollars buying at the cheapest sales and I have more time with my family. And best of all, every couple of weeks we take delivery of a priceless toy box for my son to play in.
Nicky writes: Alissa isn’t the only one leaving department stores behind. According to The Daily Telegraph, major outlets including David Jones, Myer, JB Hi-Fi and Harvey Norman have lost a combined $2.25 billion in their market value over the past three months due to a lack of sales. Retailers are also warning of job losses if a GST isn’t applied to foreign interest purchases under $1000, a measure they’re hoping will boost local sales.
As half-yearly and heavily discounted sales haven’t worked in winning back our wallets, retailers are trying to entice customers back in with a range of new services. Myer wants to make their stores into “theatres”, where shoppers can also run errands such as getting their breasts screened, check-in to weight-loss clinics and have their eyes-tested. And rival David Jones is considering 24-hour trading in their flagship city stores to allow customers to squeeze in a few hours of retail therapy after work.
There is no doubt the retail landscape will continue to go through some uncertainty over the next few months and the move to turn shopping into a more convenient and entertaining pastime will prove to be either a winner or a case of too little, too late.
Do you still shop at department stores? What would it take to get you back if you’ve left?








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How about when you do go into DJ’s or Myer, here in Newcastle, you STRUGGLE to find a sales person to purchase from. A number of times I have wandered and wandered the floor looking for staff members but most counters are unattended. I have given up. The one time I passed this information onto a staff member, they thought I was being rude!!
I don’t like shopping online generally, I like to touch/feel etc.
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Has anyone mentioned the quality and unoriginality of our stock in Australia?
I do a fair amount of my shopping online because you get better stuff overseas! Items that you don’t see on every other person, or made out of shonky materials. You’ll spend $200 on a poorly made synthetic dress these days, or $150 on a pair of fake leather shoes in an Aussie store. RIDICULOUS. I can get much better prices and quality if I order online, and that includes factoring in shipping, and I can be guaranteed I won’t see what I’m wearing on every second girl at the bar. Plus online shoppin saves you schlepping from store to store to get the best price, you don’t have to lug it home on the train, you get that nice sense of anticipation between when you order and when it arrives… Bonus.
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I never shop online if I can find what I want in a real shop. I find online shopping tiresome and uninspiring. I like to try on clothes and shoes before I part with cash and I think it is plain bad manners to get sizing etc for. A real shop and not buy it.
I also work on a computer so I like my shopping off it- if feels like work shopping online.
An it isn’t fun.
I like good service and happy to pay a price for it.
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The lack of GST is not the reason I buy online. Many of my online purchases are from Australia. I just find online much more convenient. I work and I have two kids, and I live in Perth, with the most archaic retail trading laws. The shops just arent open when I want to shop, so I invariably do my browsing on the computer when the stores are closed.
I do all my research online, and I do buy a lot of stuff online, but most of my clothing and shoe purchases are in store. I like the experience of trying on lots of things. A good sales assistant can make all the difference. If I get bad service anywhere I walk straight out. If I get good service, I buy. It is as simple as that.
I think the key for retail to survive is to improve the whole experience and be multi channel. Have a comprehensive online offer, not just advertising catalogues so that I can research what I want before I get there. If I come into the store give me a better service than I would get online.
And can someone explain why is a Bobbi Brown lipstick $44 in DJs and $16 in Nordstroms? This makes no sense to me.
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Hi there Kate! As an Aussie YouTube beauty guru, make-up artist and all round beauty lover, I feel your pain honey! It is ridiculous that us Aussie ladies have to pay more for our beauty needs than our American counterparts. This is why the Australian retail environment is fading dramatically. Honestly Australian retail has a lot to answer for and I sure hope they realise that we deserve a much better deal than were getting!
Btw heres my channel if you want to have a look: http://www.youtube.com/RJAD07
Thanks hun!
Rosie xoxox
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I’m a bit late commenting on this story, but I have a couple of ‘good’ department store stories.
I had been given a Westfield gift card for Christmas and decided I’d go to DJs to buy a nice rice cooker. The one I had my eye on was a risotto maker too and the Breville website quoted a RRP of $79. I get to DJs and find the model and the price tag says $99. When I (finally) found a sales assistant I said that the Breville website quoted a RRP of $79 and his reply was:
“We don’t price-match online prices”,
“But it’s not an online price, it’s simply the RRP from the manufacturer”,
“We don’t price-match online prices”.
Excellent. Thank you for making my decision so easy to walk out of your shop. And then, I purchased an Apple iTunes gift card from DJs. They didn’t activate it or something before I took it home. So when I went to redeem it, it wouldn’t work. I had to drive all the way back to the point of sale to fix it. Only to be told by a staff member that they didn’t sell these cards and I must be mistaken. I turned and pointed out an entire wall of iTunes gift cards in the computer section. It’s sad when the customers know more about the store than the staff.
These days if I’m ever in the shopping centres, DJs or Myer is only serves as a walkway back to the carpark. Sad, but true.
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Can anyone recommend some sites for a 40 year old size 14? I’ve looked at Asos and Modcloth but they seem a bit teenager-y. I usually shop at Myer, Sussan, Just Jeans & Witchery, so any bargain site that stock similar clothing would be great!
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Birdsnest.com.au is pretty good
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I almost never shop in stores anymore. I just don’t like what they have on offer. I love shopping online. Plus – getting mail is awesome! It’s like it’s your birthday all year around!
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I don’t shop at David Jones anymore. I used to. When Megan Gale was their ambassador. I don’t anymore because I do not relate at all to Miranda Kerr on any level. Nor do I agree with how she is portrayed everywhere. This has nothing to do with what is commonly written as ‘hating’ or ‘haters’ . Far, far too much is made of genetic blessings in western countries. I would still shop at David Jones if Megan Gale was still the main girl. Or Samantha Harris. Society is becoming more and more enamored and completely OBSESSED with looks. Miranda Kerr is not the only healthy and wholesome woman out there. Do we all have to be sexy and seductive and stunning to be successful in life? It’s a wonder women in this country bother getting up in the morning with how perfect she is.
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I get that you don’t particularly like Miranda Kerr, but aren’t Megan gale and Samantha Harris genetically blessed too?
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For me Samantha Harris is different because she is Indigenous. I would love it if she became the next ambassador.
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I happily buy online and offline. I actually quite like Myer’s product range especially for kids’ clothes, but the service has become so non-existant that last time I had to abandon my purchases as there was no-one to fetch the shoes I wanted and the line to pay was 8 deep. So I probably won’t be back there until they change something.
Overseas I love Dorothy Perkins for cheap and cheerful women’s clothing, as well as ASOS.
For kids’ clothes Gymboree in the US is quite good as well as the UK department stores. Buying winter clothes o/s is much better as jackets etc seem to be better insulated.
Shopstyle is great for more high-end purchases, it connects to heaps of overseas stores which ship to Australia.
And I want Anthropologie to open an Australian branch!
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I love online shopping from coles and woolies for groceries, my a nearby organic grocery for fruit and veg – kids clothing and toys from unique little sites like dragonflytoys.com.au or peanut gallery.
For my purchases…country road & trenery is a fav online – when i order it is usually delivered within 24 -48 hours (and i am in a regional area) plus i dont have to put up with the snooty sales staff – jigsaw and saba are also great online as is birdsnest.
Makeup – adore.com.au and mecca online are quick and easy to deal with, underwear and swimmers from zodee ( i love zodee – their service is just fantastic) and surfstich.com.au plus a few others.
Its easy, convenient and by the time you add in petrol and day out a the shops the cost of delivery an returns is not that bad.
I love online shopping and cant wait to see what the next five years holds with online stores. It will become such a normal part of our lives – those complaining just need to catch up quickly.
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please please please can someone post what site they are buying their Bobbi Brown from in the US
tried to get some from Nordstroms the other day and you cant buy the products i was after with an aus address.
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SORRY – I get mine from Sephora and have a friend in the US forward them on to me, try e-bay as they have a big range and are still WAY cheaper than Aus stores.
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Found this article and the comments interesting and not without a heightened sense of frustration. As I run a tourist magazine in Central Victoria I get around the region a lot and meet a lot of people in hospitality and retail – hospitality seems to be doing OK right now, but the retailer is struggling. We’re not talking Myer and DJ here, I’m talking about the small operator/owner with possibly one staff member who has not only invested enormous cash resources into their dream, but their heart and soul as well and these people are hurting and hurting badly. Not through any fault of theirs – they run their businesses very well, are professional, courteous and helpful and they are suffering what I call the online isolation syndrome. Maybe I’ve got it wrong by feeling that the personal interaction between the owner and/or staff member and the customer is much more personal and human than hitting buttons on a computer. I do occasionally buy online, but haven’t been 100% satisfied with the purchase and feel I’m not relating to anyone in the process. Having said that, I am also aware of a number of retailers who have closed their shops and are selling online themselves and without fail, those I have spoken to have said that financially they’re OK, but they miss their customers – even the difficult ones.
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The complete lack of care and customer serivce in Australian stores was demonstrated to me yet *again* yesterday. I drove 55km from my Mum’s house to the Country Road store at Charlestown, NSW to specifically buy a $269 handbag I saw on a mailout coupon they sent to my Mum. The colour I wanted wasn’t in stock and when I asked the sales assistant if he could order it for me. He said “NO, unless you are a VIP customer, we don’t do orders.” I said “Well, what about seeing if it is at another store, and we could have it sent to this store?”. One again I got the “NO, we only do that for VIP customers.”
EXCUSE ME. I thought ALL customers are VIPS in these times of retail woe. FFS I was about to spend over $300 in his store!
He told me to go and buy it online or drive to Sydney to buy one from one of the larger stores there. He wasn’t rude, but clearly wasn’t in the slightest bit interested in ‘going the extra mile’ for his customer. It’s possibly a head office rule about not transferring stock, but COME ON. I wanted to plonk down my Visa card and pay for it now, not just have a look and uhm and ahh over it!
I have shopped all over the USA over many years of living there and travelling there and I can say, those sales assistants KNOW how to provide customer service! It’s not always perfect, but they WANT to help. I’ve had assistants falling over themselves to give me discounts and coupons, offer freebies and show some semlance of friendliness. More often than not they are also on minimum wage, and don’t think they are ‘above’ the customer. As I said, they don’t always get it right, but they damn well try alot harder than most of their Australian counterparts.
I now buy so much online, my postie always has a giggle when he drops by pretty much every day!
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It also doesn’t help that some things that I like I can’t find anywhere in Australia both physically and on the internet, therefore forcing me to look at overseas stores on the web. Also, it’s pretty hard for people to go shopping when they have to work while the shops are open, oh except for that one night a week, as more people are having to work weekends. And maybe if everything wasn’t so expensive?
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I think it all comes down to creating an experience, what i take from this article is that the ‘event’ of going shopping is no longer there and it is now reviewed by customers as hard work, the new event is the ‘door bell’.
I think that longer trading hours and random screening and tests is not the way to get customers in the door – this is only confusing the message. Stores need to create a luxe experience and add the glamour back to shopping – what about weekly fashion shows like in Paris or play group / child centres for mums to have some down time or simple things like a pleasant easy to shop environment and helpful staff.
I also totally agree with you about the department stores lacking in the online experience, the money they have invested and the cant even manage to show a fraction of their range, it really is a shame as there is so much potential.
It all comes down to listening to your customer and evolving to suit her needs.
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What about:
a) more staff
b) better trained staff
c) staff who’ve been there for years and know their products and customers
d) better range – not just sizes 8-12 in teenage clothes.
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Another reason retail is dying is the mindless negativity. Flick on the TV or radio or open a tabloid.. We’ll all be ruined, they chant, repeating Abbott’s mantra. Any wonder people lose confidence, all while 95% of us have jobs, rates are lower than 2007 and inflatio. Is at 3%. People need to grow a pair and be a bit positive for God’s sake.
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For department stores, I confess I love DJ’s men’s store in Sydney. The range of clothes is wonderful. But I have taken to buying a lot online. You just can’t ignore the savings.
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I’m from Brisbane, but currently live in the States. The shopping experience here – both online and offline – is far superior to anything I’ve encountered anywhere else in the world. Delivery is quick and usually free/cheap. In the shops, there’s always a friendly shop assistant on hand to answer questions – nobody here is “too cool” to work in retail so there’s none of that “attitude” you typically receive from salespeople at home when they have to go out of their way to accommodate your request (eg. by phoning another store or “checking out the back”). Returns are hassle-free (they don’t even ask why, or require a receipt!). There are some exceptions to this rule – for example, big cities like NYC – but essentially the experience is still 150% better than anything at home.
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I’ve just started buying clothes and shoes online. I buy just about everything else online, but I’ve always preferred to see these items in real life. No more. It’s not because of bad service or over-pricing, but because of other customers.I went shopping a few weeks ago. Every single piece of clothing I wanted had been ruined. There were make-up stains all over everything, dirty footprints, food stains, and in one case period blood. All these items had clearly been shoved back by customers, not staff, so it wasn’t their fault. I’ll be shopping online from now on, safe in the knowledge that dozens of grubby hands haven’t manhandled my purchases before I buy them.
I always receive the best service overseas, in places where people wouldn’t dream of touching an item with dirty hands or putting back an item they’d gotten their make-up on. In places where customers treat staff like an expert, not a slave. The staff are appreciated, the customers are respectful, everyone’s happy.
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omg! I can’t believe that! people can be so disgusting
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Went into DJs last year to buy a new mixmaster, so I was looking to drop $500-$1000 in one go (I cook a lot, and my 1950s cast-iron version wasn’t cutting the mustard any more). It didn’t worry me that there was noone there to help, because I knew what I was looking for. But although they had the models on display, they had left the beaters in the box – so I undid the box to have a look at them.
Well, if you want staff attention, that’s the way to get it. I had 2 previously invisible assistants appear before I even had the box open, telling me that I couldn’t open it and neither would they – I had to buy it on trust. Buying a mixer without seeing the beaters would be like buying an audi and not checking that it came with wheels.
I was so cranky, I came home and googled “1950s mixmaster repairs”, found some replacements on ebay and bought them instead (for less than $100). So not only did they lose that sale, but they showed me the joys of internet shopping and I’ve been doing it ever since.
Stupid thing is that I worked at DJs all the way through uni and had a great deal of goodwill for them until then.
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hmmm……here’s a thought for DJ’s / Myers….turn at least SOME of your focus to ‘assisted shopping’. Invest in more staff, and invest in training them in colour / style consulting, so that your staff can intelligently help your customers not only find what they are looking for, but also suggest things that may not have been thought of…. a bit like a store full of Trinny & Susannah’s!.
Have a ‘suggestion service’ or personal shopper (I’m sure myers at least used to do this) – people who can help with ideas on possible gifts, or who can collate a selection of outfits or other goods based on information you provide beforehand, ready for you to peruse when you arrive instore….
Make your ‘point of difference’ RELEVANT. And have a greater range in price, and I might come back and shop there. i got the DJs spring catalogue today….the majority of stuff was around $100 or more per piece…sorry, but I can and do put together entire outfits including shoes for less. And I can’t afford designer pieces, no matter how beautiful they are.
If the prices were more sensible, and I could get some educated, honest assistance on whether items suited me without having to resort to texting changing room photos to friends, I would come back!
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Excuse my prior lack of punctuation, stupid iPad!
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If it is the end myer David jones, and especially that bloody greedy assed Gerry Harvey deserve it! If the government decides to put gst on Internatiol sales under $1000, I think I may “go postal” like Michael Douglas in falling down! Tell me, does Australia currently pay more taxes than all other countries?
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I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this below but…
I wonder whether Premier Investments’ decision to close a bunch of stores due to poor sales has been influenced by people (like me!) boycotting their stores since the appointment of their “delightful” new CEO Retail…Mark McInness *shudder*
One can only hope that their sales figures are hurting more than everyone else’s
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Re: customer service, I’ve worked at a major department store (thankfully not anymore!) and I’ve experienced first hand the catch-22 situation managers and staff can be placed in. Essentially staff are stretched to their limit as head honchos want more without providing more resources.
In my experience we were told that just by providing minimum amount of staff required when we opened the doors on a Monday morning, that we were already going to be ‘over budget’ for that week. Eg. the weekly budget allocated to staff the store may have been $50,000, and to pay all F/T and P/T’s costs would be $55,000 (am making these figures up). This amount was determined by some upper management cronies somewhere at mythical head office. Consequently you weren’t always permitted to hire casuals that are essential for night shift to help re-stock shelves.
Along with the customer service element, you’re given a huge list of jobs that need to be completed by the end of every shift, most days you’re doing two or three people’s jobs just to cover and my favourite is when (through no fault of their own) a customer requests an item “from the back” – which usually means that it’s up on a pallet in the racking, however you can’t get it down cause the back-dock is so full with pallets (that haven’t been taken onto the floor as there’s not enough staff) that you can’t even maneouver the forklift to get it down. It’s literally unreachable. All of this takes time, which can be why you – the customer – never find help when you need it. So you have to tell customers “sorry, we’re out of stock” when the fact is it’s there, you just can’t physically get to it.
I’m not defending department stores by any means and there’s no excuse when there is available staff and they seem unwilling to serve you. But there’s always two sides to a story and inevitably the customer service issue comes down to money.
I don’t fully believe the line that stores are crying poor as on the weeks we did really well and surpassed all expectations, we still didn’t get any reprieve in the form of more staff. So where was all that extra money going? It wasn’t flowing back to the store in any form.
This is largely why I left retail, it’s like a making a ‘hole in water’ – even if you try to be diligent and provide good customer service – you feel you never get anywhere as attending to customers means your jobs don’t get done. Argh!
And of course stores prefer to hire juniors as you don’t have to pay them as much, which often results in poor customer service as some just don’t care. Did I say it was a catch-22?
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I used to work for one of the department stores and this was my experience too. The number of people they’d put on on an ordinary day in a department seemed to get smaller over the years I worked there. Now when I walk through they seem to be getting by with even fewer staff.
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That explains a lot! A recent trip to Myer proved vey frustrating, because I couldn’t find a sales person to take my money. It goes like this. Select a toy in toy department and go to counter. Sign on unattended counter says ‘please go to baby wear counter’. Sign on unattended baby wear counter says: ‘Please go to menswear counter”..Sign on unattended menswear counter says ‘please go to womenswear counter”…who needs all that schlepping around? Browsing the books department was like wandering alone in a ghost town, no customers or staff around, no-one to dust the books or straighten up the piles..it’s depressing.
I watch reruns of ‘Are you Being Served” and marvel at the olden days when there seemed to be a huge number of shop assistants crowded into one small department store.
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I buy my casual t-shirts from threadless.com because they are intelligent, witty, beautiful and different. If I want trashy, suggestive, offensive or commercial (Disney etc) tees that tons of other people will have, then I will go to my local shops.
Have better choice and maybe people won’t go overseas for their stuff.
Also, make sure you have enough sizes in stock. I am so sick of going to multiple shoe stores and being told again and again that they are sold out of my size. Not that I buy shoes online, because if they didn’t fit I’d have to be bothered to return them, but still.
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People don’t buy from overseas online stores because they save the 10% in GST. It’s WAY more than that.
I regularly shop online, barely a week goes by that I don’t have something arrive. Make up from strawberrynet. Clothes from theoutnet.com clearance sale (a top & a dress delivered for $70 – the top was $200 full price). Swimwear & everyday underwear from Victorias secret – I got a bikini top for $12 the other day!
I buy from local online stores as well for the convenience shoes, clothes, homewares, anything!
In saying that, I also LOVE shopping in stores, my favourite store I shop at at least twice a month, when I go into Sydney city I got to Pitt St mall and shop up a storm.
I think people are shopping smarter, not necessarily less. People aren’t spending double on something when they can get it far cheaper. The stores have had sales for a long time – with constant email reminders about sales I find myself buying online all the time!
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When you shop online you also do not have to put up with rude unknowledgable shop assistants. I tried to support JB instore today and left with an $11 discounted iPad cover, went in with the intention of spending gift voucher and birthday funds, around $150. When did it become okay to treat customers like an inconvenience?
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i shop online for some things, during my wedding planning online shopping from the comfort of my office (in lunch hours of course :p ) was invaluable as i was commuting and barely had time to make it to the shops.
but for clothes etc i still like to go to the shops and try them on, having larger than normal bust size makes it hard to find tops and dresses that fit properly, so i definatly like to try it on before i fork over the cash.
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Also (I always seem to do my comments in 2 parts, no idea why), I am pretty shocked that the online offering of the major retailers – DJs, Myer, Harvey Norman – is so lame.
They’ve had YEARS to see this coming. I would be delighted to shop online and support them if they had sites that were user-friendly and offered free or reasonable shipping.
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And Target too! Many times I’ve wanted to order online a kids gift for birthday party or something, but their sites suck. Cotton On only JUST started up theirs.
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I would definitely shop at Myer and even kmart, etc if they had decent online stores. I live in regional WA so the only time i get to do any sort of decent shopping is when i go to Perth… not often! If these stores set up proper online shops with the same stock online as in store i would definitely use them.
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I think they’ve held back because once they shift the focus from their actual stores to an online store, they’ll lose the only thing they still have going for them.
I can buy just about everything Myer & David Jones stock online for a far cheaper price than they could ever offer. The only thing that might entice me to spend money there is the opportunity to see products in RL.
US department stores have great online stores because they can compete, at least in some areas, with other online retailers. Our department stores will never be able to do that.
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I’d be happy if Myer had an online site which at least allowed me to browse what they have instore, even if I have to go to Bourke Street to buy it.
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I think the issue with Harvey Norman is that the store is actually a huge envelope of multiple franchises, hence the reason you cant pay for your towels at the computer section. Not sure how a franchise would adequately have an online presence??? Having said that, we used to always buy whitegoods from Harvey Norman. I bought my dishwasher from Appliances Online and it was easy peasy (cheap price & free delivery)
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Why do I shop online?
I stopped shopping in department stores after I went in to one of them to buy some new bras. Being a larger size I had done my research on-line first and found which brands made the larger sizes.
Not being able to find them in the store I approached a sales woman and asked where I could find the bras I was looking for. Her reply “I’m sorry. We only carry normal sizes”…
And that’s why retail is a dying industry…Needless to say I have not stepped foot in that store again.
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It’s a bit of a catch-22 isn’t it? We all complain that there is no-one to serve us in department stores so we don’t want to go there anymore. And because we don’t go there, they have less staff…..and so we go there less…..etc
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That doesn’t factor in for me at all Mia, I see the price online and the price at say Myer and that is all it takes. If the department stores want to win us back they need to drop the 300% markups and stop treating Australians with such disdain (blatant price discrimination). We are not idiots and do not appreciate being exploited because of our geographic isolation, in the digital age we can find out how much things really cost in the rest of the world.
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I’ll keep shopping on line.
1) Price – it’s cheaper – and by a whole lot more than 10% GST
2) Range – if Australian stores won’t carry my size, my cut, my colour then I’ll have to go elsewhere (and I do).
3) Online stores always have your item in stock – go to the bookstore for the latest release? Nope, they don’t have it yet.
4) Value – seriously, department stores are carrying a lot of very average merchandise at high-end prices – they can’t expect people to part with their money.
@ RedHen – DJs have an online store.
@ Rainbow – BookDepository has been bought by Amazon
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The problem seems to be with customer service not the act of going to the shops! personally I hate online shopping, nothing ever fits correctly & then u have to pay freight to send it back, by then I don’t want the item anymore…..
The large department stores don’t service their customers, the staff think they are above it or they are too busy to help you! That’s where Myer & DJ’s need to take a good hard look at themselves. If you don’t have customer service you don’t have customers!
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Quite true. I’ve tried Myers for shoes, but they don’t have enough people serving to go get the corresponding shoe for you. I usually give up and leave because they only have one staff member on, and they’re helping someone already.
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The lack of staff in the big retail stores have helped the low profits, they have enough money to put on massive, extravagant run way shows but can not put more people on the pay role because they don’t have enough funds, how does that work??
I usually buy from ASOS or I just get things from little stores e.g Cotton On, Dotti, Kmart, Supre & Big W.
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I love shopping online but I can’t buy clothes or shoes – I NEED to try them on! I keep trying and keep paying heaps in postage to return them. Yet I try again…
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I buy everything online. I refer to ‘Booko.com..au’ for my books, Etsy is a fave & white goods from ‘appliances online’. They’re cheaper, deliver free the next day & take your busted crap away & the range is good.
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Why can’t these Australian stores have an online store?????? It drives me mental, as I live in rural Australia, that they have the audacity to demand we shop traditionally; move with the times. They don’t need to have their entire inventory online, they could just have their bestsellers or clearance store online.
I am an online shopping devotee. I would like to support Australian stores and still buy online however, so many fail to have an online store.
My other complaint is fit/sizing of Australian stores. I am 178cm and cannot get pants that are long enough. When I shop online in American stores I can get jeans and tracksuit pants in a variety of leg lengths – bliss. I have tried, on 3 separate occasions, to purchase tracksuit pants locally and all have been too short as shops only stock ‘regular’ length. I purchased tracksuit pants from Nordstrom’s (Nike) and ASOS (Fila) and both came in a long length – yay! It’s not like I want something fancy, or a strange, boutique brand; just pants that don’t stop above my socks. How hard can it be?
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I do 80 per cent of my shopping online and here’s why
a) I am a size 14-16 and the plus size clothing collection in Australia is very dismal. I like classic/ladylike clothing with a retro twist and all I can buy in Australia is horrible nightclub gear from the likes of City Chic if I’m not buying from Target etc. So I buy a lot of clothes from places like ASOS, Etsy, Modcloth, Shop Ruche etc. Another example- I have been trying for weeks to buy wide leg boots. Plenty of the so-called wide-legged styles don’t fit me anyway or they have that horrible ‘fat girl’s’ elastic panel. I am not even an especially big person, only a size 14-16. It is so much easier to find clothes you like online if you are more than a size 12.
b) Sick of crap service. A few weeks ago, I waited 20 F%@!ing minutes in Myer for someone to attend to me and get my shoe size. I would have walked out but the shoes were less than half price so I waited. But I kept thinking the whole time ‘and they wonder why I buy online.’
c) Brands I can’t get in Australia. I love Gap clothes, particularly their jeans, but I can’t buy them here.
d) Custom-made clothing. It’s so cheap to buy now with Etsy etc. I am 154cm tall, with a small waist but big hips and I find it difficult to get clothes to fit properly. I just got a skirt custom-made for me on Etsy for $60. Why would I buy one that fits like crap from a department store?
e) Sick of being ripped off. Australian prices are ridiculous.
f) I am on the very brink of fitting into straight store clothing but on the other hand, a lot of plus size clothing is too big. It’s an awkward size and I get frustrated when I go to the stores because I’ll fit into some chain-store stuff and not others and even in places like City Chic, the XS fits sometimes and not others.
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I’m going on summer holiday next week (WOOOOOOOO!) and I bought my whole summer holiday wardrobe online. Hello ASOS.
I live in London – the second home of amazing shopping (after NYC), and I still shop online. Not because I don’t love the High Street, but because I love the simplicity of it all.
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I live in London and do all my shopping online too. Just don’t like crowded shops here and all High Street shops have great websites and service is so much better than in the bricks and mortar shops.
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I hate shopping generally, so I was thinking of experimenting with buying clothes online… can anyone recommend the good websites? I’ve heard of Asos but I’m not familiar with any others.
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ASOS is massive and generally has pretty good prices.
But the online store that makes me swoon, is modcloth.com
I don’t think there’s anything in Australian retail that is like it style-wise, and the prices are also quite good.
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oooo modcloth! Thanks for sharing
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I realise that I sound old, but I like to buy clothes from a store, so that I can try them on first. If something doesn’t suit, then I don’t have to waste time with returns. I also like layby. It’s not a big thing online atm, so that means you have to use your credit card (or visa debit if you’re sensible), so that makes it unattractive. I admit I think a lot of clothes are overpriced here, but to me, money isn’t the only factor. I rarely shop at DJs or Myers either.
Books, DVDs etc I will happily buy online however.
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I do both. Shoes, clothes and food are mostly in the actual shop. I want to touch, feel and see things in real life. And I need to try shoes and clothes on to know if I actually want them. Don’t want the hassle of having to send things back etc. Other stuff I get online or at least research online (eg books, toys, mobiles etc).
And I LOVE my local f&v grocer – so much better than online. He really knows his stuff and I want to be the one who chooses the produce so I know what I’m getting.
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It’s just so hard going shopping with toddlers. I go to shops that I know fit my body and suit my size and buy without trying things on.
Now, I’m shopping online. I used to enjoy going to the shops, but now just find it exhausting. Especially with the new refurbished DJ and Myer stores in Melbourne City — I just don’t know where to find anything anymore! The service is also very poor. If I was at least getting this, perhaps I could reconsider… you cannot find anyone to even put your sale through sometimes! ‘HELLO, I WANT TO BUY SOMETHING FROM YOUR STORE!!!”
Also, everything is so expensive… there’s hardly any good sales and the range of stock has gone down from what it was before.
In a nutshell… more expensive, less range, hard to find what you want and poor service!
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Went to David Jones yesterday with my mother, who has driven up 400km just to go shopping for new bedcovers, pillows, matress protectors etc…stood in bedding department at Karinyup (perth) for 15 minutes waiting for sales assistant to finish on phone, only to be told when she hung up that she had other calls to make and their might be somone else to help us but she wasn”t too sure!!!! We went to Myers instead and happily spent $1000.
Why bother to pay Miranda Kerr millions…they should get extra staff .
Also…Sebastian shampoo and conditioner…$69 at hair salon…$34 from internet store, with free postage!!! I never thought that I would be an internet shopper but the savings are too hard to ignore. xx
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So true – for what they pay Miranda Kerr for a day’s work they could spend on employing hundreds of sales assistants. I’d hazard a guess it would be the latter choice that would deliver a healthier profit for them
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The retail industry in this country needs to take a long hard look at it’s customer service, too many times have I been ignored when I am there to spend. If you want my hard earned money please provide me with pleasant helpful courteous service and help me when I am in the fitting rooms.
It’s simple really. In the meantime I will continue to shop online with my glass of wine.
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Prime example – gorgeous bike helmets for kids “Little Nutty” – $42Aus in the US but $99.95Aus from the same company here. Why would I shop in store or even online from an Aussie store with that price difference?
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Where did you get them? They’re gorgeous!
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It’s IMPOSSIBLE to get any service in any Myer. Honestly, I love swanning around in a department store drifting through the different departments, from stationary to shoes, but why would I bother?? My daughter is bound to need to use the toilet in the 40 minutes it can sometimes take to pay for my items.
At home, i could have made myself a coffee, sent my daughter to the toilet, put a soup on and bought the same items, cheaper and whilst still in my pajamas….
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i bought HEAPS of books from book depository uk when they first started. the range was brilliant and the prices even better, but now i find that you they are often out of stock and the prices are a little cheaper but not as much as before. i feel a bit dudded, they lured me in with good prices and service and then stopped trying…
i am buying at local bookstores again!
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I suggest booko.com.au, you type in the DVD or the book title you are after and it lists all the websites that will sell the item in order of cheapest to most expensive, and includes shipping costs. I buy from all over the place, whereever the book is cheapest!
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This is a great site! Thx whippersnapper
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Booko is BRILL!
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Once you have travelled overseas and seen the difference in price it seems stupid to want to shop in stores here. All the media rubbish about loss of experience and people being conservative since the FTC ignore the fact that despite our dollar being one of the strongest we are paying almost double for the exact same products we can access other ways. I prefer my yearly trip to the USA for a shopping blowout where I spend all my hard earned dollars and come home with all the clothes, shoes and cosmetics that I need for the year. If I need something in the meantime I order it online. Why do I spend more for I tunes downloads and kindle books as well. The retail sector needs to stop complaining and either become competitive or go a die quietly in the corner.
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Plus the quality for what you are spending, and the range of diiferent styles OS. I miss London shopping…
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I agree with most of what is already said. I do enjoy going into shops, but only a certain kind. In the UK, there are beautiful stores like Anthropologie and White Stuff, where the stores are so well presented and inspiring, that even the kids like visiting. Anthropologie displays outfits, homewares and books – but also has an art exhibition, a doggie portrait day, and sales assistants who come to your changing room, learn your name and get you different sizes. Its a great experience. White stuff has vintage ride on toys for 20p, a fairytale theme with characters everywhere and themed change rooms which are just brilliant (this is not an expensive store either). That said, they and many other of my favourites also have good online sites.
Bookstores are much cheaper, and chain fashion like H&M is very affordable (non sale cotton dress for my daughter cost £2.99).