Stella Young tells of a dark joke in disability circles.
“If you have an accident in a lake and you injure yourself then you had better get your friends to drag you to a car and make it look like an [car] accident. It’s a bit dark. But it’s true.”
That’s because people living with disabilities have never been treated equally. Never. Stella Young was born with her condition (osteogenesis imperfecta) which makes her bones more fragile. She’s been in a wheelchair all her life. She paid about $14,000 for her last one (the Victorian Government paid about $8000) while her friend of the same age with the same condition in another state has never had to pay for her chair.
Here’s where the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) comes in. Acronyms relating to government policy tend to make people glaze over, but here’s the thing: many are saying this is the biggest social reform in Australia’s history. Definitely on par with Medicare. Possibly even bigger. If it’s done right, it will not just transform the lives of people living with disability (and their carers) but the economy as well. News Editor Rick Morton asked disability advocate and furious knitter Stella Young for her views on the developments.
MM: This has been a long time coming. How long have people with disabilities been fighting for this?
Stella: Decades and decades. Some of the older activists say we have been talking about this for 30 years. Officially, it came up as a big idea at the 2020 Summit. Bruce Bonyhady, chairman and chair of Yooralla was one of the key drivers in those initial stages. He knows first hand the system is stuffed.
MM: At its simplest, what will the National Disability Insurance Scheme actually be, what do you want it to look like?
S: To me it looks like a system where disability has the least impact on a person’s life that it can have. That means early intervention. We hear about 2 year waiting lists for people to get intervention which, by then, is no longer early intervention at all. It’s late intervention and it’s not enough.
It’s about it [the disability] having a minimal impact on their life. With my wheelchair, disability doesn’t play a huge role in my life. But without it I would be crawling around everywhere, not be able to work or be the best person I could be. That’s what it’s about.
It will basically mean everyone with a long-term disability can access the support they need. It’s more like an assurance scheme than an insurance scheme.
MM: How is this different to disability support offered now?
S: Well, for a start, there is currently no nationally consistent scheme. It’s a mess.
Secondly, it’s no-fault. It’s a system that doesn’t care how or why you have a disability but will provide support based only on need. As it stands now, I pay for my chair where my friend in another state does not.
I’m pretty lucky that I can afford to pay. I prefer not to, but at least I am in a position to do so. But thousands and thousands are not.
MM: We hear the figures. About 1/3 of homes with a person with a disability live close to or below the poverty line. Depression in carers is about 44% more prevalent than in the general population. This isn’t a surprise, is it?
S: Not at all. One of the greatest problems with the complete lack of support as it stands now is not just for those of us with disabilities but for our carers, usually our unpaid family members, who worry and agonise about what will happen to us when they pass on.
There is a lack of security and confidence. I hear from older carers ‘we don’t know what will happen to our kids when we die’. That is a pretty bleak cloud hanging over their heads.
Mum said she was petrified about how I would get on in life until I grew up, moved away and went to uni and she relaxed and realised I could look after myself.
MM: I’ve read many say with funds going directly to the person with a disability, and them being able to spend it where they need it most, that this is one of the greatest elements of the proposed NDIS?
S: Absolutely.
There’s a great example of a girl with Downs Syndrome who wants to do a course but she’s not confident with using public transport to get there. So, part of her NDIS package would be training on how to use that system to get her where she needs to go. It’s an example of her specific need and a way she can help overcome it.
People with disabilities often don’t have much flexibility in their life. There are people my age who have to go to bed at 7.30pm at night because that’s the latest time their support worker agency will send someone to help them with their routine. Sometimes if they want to stay up they just sleep in their chairs or where they are until someone can come again in the morning.
It’s kind of looking like that might change. There will still be limitations unfortunately, but it will be much more freeing.
MM: You’ve made the point that this is NOT the same as funding for the Disability Support Pension (DSP). How is it different?
S: There is so much in the media about people ‘rorting’ the disability pension and this will have nothing to do with that. That is income support and this is essentially life support. There will actually be less people on the DSP because the NDIS will allow them to get back into work.
Remember, we will have to build a workforce of support workers as well. The idea is to have support provided by people who are paid rather than unpaid families.
It will increase workforce participation exponentially. It will pay for itself in time. Well and truly. You just need the investment now.
It’s a great time to be alive. I’m thinking in another 30 years we’ll look back and say ‘back in my day we had to pay for our own wheelchairs’.
THE FACTS
Here’s how the scheme will work.
1. It will cost about $8 billion a year more than the states currently spend on disability.
2. Payments will be given to the most seriously disabled people in Australia, based on need.
3. It will require a system for assessing just who the most in need are.
4. Those people will be able to spend those payments as they see fit. They will no longer have to apply for limited numbers of payments or pay for services only offered in capital cities. They can make up their own mind about what support they need the most.
5. Some money will be allocated on vastly improving the disability support sector.
6. In doing that, competition in that sector will increase and dodgy operators will hopefully be squeezed out. The NDIS will provide choice.
7. The Australian Government has allocated $1 billion in the budget to start the scheme. It will begin next year, helping 10,000. The year after that it will expand to help 20,000. There are some 330,000 people with disabilities that require ‘significant’ amounts of care and support.
Stella Young is a writer, editor of the ABC’s website Ramp Up and a disability reform advocate. You can follow her on Twitter here (and you should). If you want to know more about her personally, check out this interview MM Publisher Mia Freedman conducted with Stella last year.
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Great article and great interview with Mia and Stella Young. What an amazing woman Stella is. It’s hard to imagine anyone would refuse her any job she wanted because of her disability. And seeing someone like Stella speak so well about the issues she’s faced, I think I’m growing to hate the word ‘disability’. It suggests no ability rather than a mere inability to do some things. We need a new word to better describe people like Stella.
This scheme is long over due and I am disgusted at the latest news that QLD, NSW, and VIC have failed to come to the party and join and fund the trials. And, I’m assuming WA is in that camp too although I can’t find any reference to them in the reports I’ve seen.
I have long advocated carers taking their ‘carees’ to Canberra en mass and ‘abandoning’ them in Parliament House thereby forcing the politicians, in the glare of national media, to address the many problems inherent in trying to survive for any length of time with the diminished quality of life that both the disabled person and the carer suffer in many instances.
Now perhaps it should be the respective state parliaments in the dissenting states instead.
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I really hope there some changes I am a full time carer for my 11 year old with
muscular dystrophy as it goes right now we been contacting different places since around July last year for help resulting in limited help . Its still going on latest thing from feb this year is my daughter needing a (BiPAP) machine . We are forced to rent a machine why we wait on government assist . Rental cost $378.20 a month . The Lack of help out there is shocking. Our medical cost range anywhere from 400 up to 900 a month and none of it is covered under any budget , I really hope this new NDS will bring some changers.
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I can’t believe that people have to buy their own wheelchairs in some states!! It’s not like you choose to be in a wheelchair. That is crazy.
On a lighter note, Stella Young you rock girl! I’ve stolen your beer & skittles line and just ran with it – hope it’s not copyrighted!
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Great interview – what an engaging speaker she is!
Off topic, but was this filmed at one of the Art Series hotels in Melbourne?
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Thanks for a great article, it was very informative.
How nice to see that something positive DID come out of the 20/20 summit.
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My sister is severely disabled. I’m not sure that this scheme will help her and other kids like her but if this scheme at least helps some disabled people then I’ll be really happy. I look forward to a day where disabled people become just people and longterm my sister might be accepted on some level into society.
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I don’t get the joke at the start
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It’s a reflection of the current state of disability support in that some people get support and some funding based on how they got their disability while others do not. It’s different state to state. The new system will be ‘no fault’ so it won’t matter how you came to have a disability.
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Ah, thanks Rick. An in-joke … now I don’t feel so dumb.
Also, a fantastic article
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This is amazing.
And I’m a little bit in love with Stella
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The NDIS is a phenomenal thing. A fantastic achievement for this government.
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I wonder if there are any safeguards in place to prevent providers putting up the costs of services (so that the money that people with disabilities have to spend doesn’t go as far)?
Apart from that (possible) hitch, it sounds like a great system. I have a friend who works in this area and it’s caused a lot of work for them, but hopefully will help a lot of people in the end.
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Cost will probably need to go up in some degre. The old way of funding services was for the government to fund an eg) downs syndrome Australia to fund a service eg) a playgroup. They would then service as many children/families as they could with the allotted funds.
Person centered funding, like the NDIS, means that they need to provide a service to whoever wants it. It’s fabulous for the consumer, but does make things more expensive as an organization as caseload numbers fluctuate more widely, and job security drops. Organizations may hire & fire according to need.
The old funding model, the consumer doesn’t “see” the dollars spent on admin, finance teams, management & photocopying. With the new one, it would need to be built into the session cost (if therapy) which might look like we are raising the price of equipment purchases etc.
I’m ALL for the NDIS as it will completely revolutionize our system & give so much choice to those who need it, but it is a huge change for the disability sector.
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great article Rick – this has been such a long time coming! Considering disability is something that could affect any one of us one day it’s amazing it has not been prioritised sooner.
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This is a wonderful scheme and long over due. My only concern is that there are currently 400,000 people living with a disability in Australia. By 2015 only 20,000 will have access to this. When will it eventually become truly nationwide and able to accessed to all those in need, not just the select few. I realize 20,000 isn’t a small number but compared to the number affected by a disability, it seems very small indeed.
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Agree Anonymous, the last thing I want is to sound ungrateful but my child’s FaHCSIA funding (which we’re lucky to have) runs out when he’s 7, if it lasts that long. The NDIS timeline indicates that he’ll be ten when it’s up and running. That’s a lot of therapy to pay for even if it is only for 3 years and he simply cannot go without it.
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I’m sure it would be frustrating for those with a disability to wait for funding, but it’s unrealistic to expect we can go from no funding to funding about 400 000 people from one budget.
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Obviously we can’t jump from 0 to 400,000. However there has been no idea of a time frame when this funding will become more accessible to the general disabled community. In 3 years time, less then 5% of the people who need access to this funding will be able to use it.
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I guess that will depend on future govts and budgets etc. I would hope the start up is the biggest hurdle.
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Great article Rick, but the title isn’t great- it didn’t indicate to me that it was about the NDIS, and I almost skipped over it!
Thanks for reporting on such a huge issue. I encourage everyone to support the NDIS, as you never know when you or a family member might need support from it yourself. Everyone deserves to have the best life possible, and the NDIS will bring more equality to disability services over Australia. And yes, Stella rocks!
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Headlines are a tricky beast! I’m trying to spread the NDIS good news beyond just those who already care
And yes, Stella does rock!
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WOW – so much good stuff on MM today.
Stella you are awesome, I love reading your work on the ABC website. This issue is so important!
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MASSIVE girl crush on Stella!! What a beautiful, hilarious and wise woman. Would love to polish off a few bottles of wine with her.
And thank you Mia for asking some of the questions I’ve always been curious about but have never had the opportunity (or to be frank – the guts) to ask.
I’m still in shock the NDIS is actually happening. Never thought I’d see it in my lifetime.
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Oh thank you! I’m totally blushing. And up for questions (and wine) any time.
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I cannot WAIT for the NDIS to be implemented…I am 26 and have a rare genetic disorder called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome…it causes daily dislocations of joints, my ligaments and tendons tear very easily, I am prone to fractures and live in constant pain…I need access to a wheelchair that is light enough for me to wheel myself around in. I did finally get one thru QLD government subsidy scheme which cost $5500, of which I paid $1750 for. Not a lot in comparison to the full price, however on a disabled pension, $1750 is A LOT of money…another thing is this wheelchair apparently has to last me at least THE NEXT 10 YEARS…I cannot get it replaced or modified or anything like that in that period of time…so if my needs change (or my weight fluctuates too much) – I am stuffed…
I also need my vehicle modified – which I am unable to afford…I am also unable to afford any of the regular therapies I am ‘supposed’ to have to maintain my muscle tone, increase strength, improve my co-ordination and biomechanical support therapies…as far as I am aware, most of these things would come under the NDIS to be paid for or at the very least, subsidised…maybe then I will have access to the care and therapies I need…
Also, as an adult who’s ‘only’ disability is impaired movement and constant injury, I have been told I am unable to have access to respite for myself (so mum can get a break), day respite, nurse to come in and help bathe me (mum has her own medical condition which impairs her ability to do this) – I am been told to my face that I am not ‘disabled’ or ‘impaired’ enough to have access to any of these resources…hopefully that all changes under the NDIS someday
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Reading your story pisses me off. Everyone should have access to the care and support they need. The fact that you don’t currently qualify for therapy, mods for your vehicle or even occasional respite care is especially alarming. I hope the NDIS can finally provide you with all of this Kylie xo
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“not disabled enough” . That makes me feel so angry. That is a problem, when you hear these things from people who are supposed to be helping you, you are so angry and flabbergasted and disbelieving that you can’t get it together to make a complaint about the person who speaks to you like that.
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My cousin has it too. Hers is the type that leaves her collagen deficient, so she had to adopt children rather than risk a rupture during pregnancy.
I have a lovely client who also has it too. Hers is more like yours, but not so severe. She only found out about it after she had kids, 2 of which also have it. The amount of running around that woman does for her children is amazing and she remains one of the friendliest, cheeriest women that we see.
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About Bloody Time!!!!!!
I just can’t even express how amazing I find this.
I’m currently studying occupational therapy and the struggles that people with disabilities face is so depressing!
Just wondering how these payments operate? Is it once-off, weekly, yearly? Does anyone know?
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for more info see: http://www.ndis.gov.au/
From what I know there’s a lot of detail still to be worked out, though there is a timeline for decision making.
Also see: http://everyaustraliancounts.com.au/home/
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Thankyou mamamia for publishing this important and timely post. My kids and I were at the make it real rally in melb last week and that night we sat in front of the tv excitedly, assuming the rally would be all over the news as the NDIS is such an important policy…. It was so disappointing to see what little coverage it got ( there was more coverage of a man trying to keep a sheep as a pet than there was than this!!). I work in the disability employment sector and this scheme is critical to increasing the employment rates of people with disability. Best thing Julia Gillards govt has done! Stella you are an Inspiration!!
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At a guess, I’d say that’d probably reduce the amount of litigation surrounding accidents that leave people disabled. For example, with children who are born with a disability, where the parents are unable to cope and end up suing the ObGyn for example, giving them the help they require on a needs-only basis would be ideal.
Knowing an obstetrcian living in Kalgoorlie who is an AMAZING Dr and meticulous in his work, it’s sad that he has been sued upwards of 4 times (all dismissed) simply because parents have been left without any other avenue for assistance. Hopefully we can change that so people aren’t left behind!
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This would be quite the boon for those doctors too!
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Love it! It’s long overdue.
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I am thrilled with this. I too have joked that if only Fatty could have been hit by a car our lives would be much easier. Funds need to move about easier.
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Bruce is my uncle – and I am SO thrilled that this has been picked up and run with as amazingly as it has
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Man, I’d be so proud of him. What an effort. What a response!
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Oh yes, being related to someone who is completely remodelling public policy – not intimidating at all! ;-p
No, I think this is such an incredibly worthwhile change, and I am very proud to have had this originate from someone I know. I always get so excited when I read about the NDIS because it really is fantastic – as Stella says, it removes the inequalities in the system. Truly fantastic
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What a fantastic interview – both Rick & Mia. You’re an awesome person Stella. I love the work you’re doing!
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The NDIS is a great policy and I am pleased to see it has support from across the Parliament – this is a ‘it just makes sense’ policy.
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I hope with all my heart that this scheme can deliver real benefits to the lives of people with disabilities.
Working in personal injury law, I see day in and day out how arbitrarily some people are given the right to access financial support and others are not, purely because of factors surrounding the cause of their disability.
If this can work, then what a great achievement!
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I think whatever happens to Prime Minister Gillard at the next election, this is one thing she can be MOST proud of.
Good on you too Stella for your hard work in fighting for this.
For anyone who complained about there being “nuthin’ for me in the budget”. This is for you. We never know what may happen to us or any of our loved ones. And besides, we all want a society where those with disabilities are able to access the care and support they need.
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Agreed. I’ve never been so excited by a piece of public policy. I hope it delivers on that excitement.
And you’re right, this is for everyone … none of us can guarantee what will happen in our lives, or to our children if and when we have them, or to our family…
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Thank you so much for continuing to publish articles which keep the National Disability Insurance Scheme in front of us. I think one of the biggest issues for us, as a family with a disabled person ( an autistic child) in the family, is the thought of what will happen to that child when we, her parents and grandparents are gone. Because she is autistic and requires a lot of support, Chloe will , in all likelihood, not have any siblings. And even if she did, or if her uncle has children, should it be up to those children to take on her care?
Secondly, the government has been quite generous to families with autistic children, providing money for therapies until the child reaches the age of seven (Thanks Kevin). This presents its own problems: a lot of charlatans suddenly devise programs that cost an unrealistic amount (why worry, the government is paying for it?) and the money can only be spent on FACHSIA approved therapists. When Chloe’s brilliant speech therapist became an approved therapist, she had to put up her costs to cover “administration” by Relationships Australia (do not get me started on that particular organisation!) The support stops when the autistic child turns seven which means a lot of people who needed it did not get it. The definition is quite narrow as well, so children with Aspergers or Global Development Delay did not get any funding.
I know it would be easy to put it all in the “too hard basket” or that you might not have to worry about it, but, please remember, any one can have a disabled child. My daughter never drank, nor did she smoke or use drugs, she has had one partner and they waited until they could support a child before they had Chloe. Similarly, anyone can become disabled through accident or injury. There is a lot going on in all our lives, but please give this scheme your consideration and support.
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Our point re: therapies for autism.
There has been a change released by the government that only approved & researched programs are eligible if provided by an approved service provider. This is a new an great move in the HCWA funding scheme. Will weed out therapies that are not based on evidence.
The funding model does unfortunately mean lots of services have had to raise their prices as there is an increased administration component required. This shouldn’t be in the same category as unscrupulous providers providing shiny therapies for huge costs!
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It sounds like the NDIS is going to make life a lot easier for many people with disabilities.
Stella is such a beautiful and intelligent young woman. I hope young people with disabilities and their loved ones can see a lot of hope for the future in Stella. Many of us without disabilities will probably never be as intelligent and hard working as Stella is. What a woman!
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