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Stella young Ramp Up There are worse words than “retarded.”

Stella Young

“Good Monging.”

This was a tweet from Ricky Gervais last month.

The reaction was swift and angry. The public were not happy and disability groups were up in arms. Gervais insisted that the  word “mong” had evolved and was no longer associated with Down Syndrome nor used as a term of hate against people with disabilities,.

And then he defiantly used it again. And again.

I understand why people get worked up about language. Really, I do. What we say and how we refer to people shapes what we think of them, just as what we think of them informs the language that we use.

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Ricky Gervais posted a series of pictures of himself making faces. Along with his tweets

What I don’t understand is why people get upset about some words and not others. Why does someone who might happily use the word “gay” as a pejorative term get upset about those who use “retarded” in the same way? Or vice versa?

I am all for speaking out against hate speech. For me, it is not the words that matter as much as their intent. Using disability as shorthand for “crap” is what I object to, whether you say “learning disabled” or “retarded”.

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Gervais has since engaged in a conversation with disability rights and learned that the word “mong” is in fact one that still gets flung about in schoolyards as an insult for kids with Down Syndrome, and used as a generally pejorative term and he’s apologised for using it. Good on him.

Do I believe Ricky Gervais when he says he wasn’t using the word “mong” in reference to people with Down Syndrome? Yep. Gervais – a man not known for his pussy-footing in any area – has done a great deal of work pushing boundaries and challenging stereotypes of disability, so I’d find it hard to believe his choice of language was anything more than ignorance about the term.

He made this fantastic and hilarious ad for JobAbility in the UK

He wrote a role on his show Extras for self-described wobbly comedian Francesca Martinez. And he’s just produced a sitcom about an acting agency for short-statured people called Life’s Too Short starring Warwick Davies and Australia’s own Kiruna Stamell. Gervais is a man on our side, and he’s apologised for stuffing up, so let’s leave him alone now.

Plus I’ve realised that there are words out there far more damaging to our fight for equality than “mong”, “retarded” or “learning disabled”.  I see them in print every day in articles about “disability pension cheats”, “welfare scammers” and “incentives” to get disabled people off the pension and into work.

It is this subtle language that reinforces the stereotype of people with disabilities as dependent, passive and lazy. Discussions in the media about how many people with dodgy backs are on the Disability Support Pension (DSP), or exposes on Today Tonight and A Current Affair about the lady down the street who claims the DSP yet trots off to Salsa classes every night, are just as harmful, if not more so. Because they simply do not reflect the truth.

What if that Salsa-loving lady lies down all day, conserving her energy so that she can do an hour of physical exercise recommended by her doctor? What if that person who “looks just fine” is hiding a chronic pain condition, or a mental illness, or Cystic Fibrosis, or Cancer, or any number of disabling conditions you can’t see on the outside? Just as we encourage our children not to judge people by physical difference, we also shouldn’t judge them for the lack of it.

While I have no doubt that there are some people on the DSP who shouldn’t be, I find it very difficult to believe that these people would be the majority.

I have been on the DSP, and it is not a glamorous life.

When I was on the DSP, it wasn’t because I wanted to sit around watching Oprah all day. It was because despite having been dux of my secondary college, going straight to uni and earning myself two degrees while doing a bit of volunteering as well, I could not for the life of me get a job.

I wasn’t spending my welfare payment on champagne and caviar. I was spending it on the minimum amount of food I could get away with buying (lucky I’m small and don’t eat much), rent, taxi fares to job interviews, wheelchair maintenance, a cleaning lady to come and do my vacuuming and medication to make sure I could stay healthy enough to eventually have a job.

The whole time I was treating getting a job like a job in itself. Having completed a Dip Ed in Secondary Education (after a journalism degree), I was all ready to head into a school and set about making sure young people were able to reach their potential in life. But I found those doors firmly closed. And up a huge flight of stairs.”

The reasons people with disabilities claim the DSP are complex and they are different for everyone. For some, it might be that they actually can work 20 or so hours a week, but their health fluctuates so much that they cannot tell an employer which particular hours those will be four weeks in advance to slot into a roster. For others, it might be discrimination and a lack of access. Some people are forced to move to areas where there are simply less job opportunities because the income they get from the pension just isn’t enough for them to live in a city.

But we don’t hear about these people in the media. We hear about how there’s “no incentive” for people with disabilities to get off the pension and into the workforce. We hear threats of reducing the amount of money people can access to “force” them to work. We hear about people spending their pensions on ciggies, booze and pokies – although I always have to laugh at that stereotype, because I know a lot of people who are on the DSP who would LOVE to have some extra cash to party with, but they have to buy things like medication and wheelchair tyres.

So now that Ricky has apologised and “mong-gate” is over, has anything changed? Well, one man won’t say one word anymore. And a whole lot of people who didn’t know the word “mong” was a disability slur do now. Some of them might even delight in using it. But I’d be willing to bet I’ll still open the paper tomorrow and read all manner of things that paint my people as lazy, burdensome people who take and don’t give. Where’s all the outrage about that?

Stella Young is a disability activist, comedian, obsessive knitter and the Editor of ABC Ramp Up.

You can catch Mia’s interview with Stella here

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94 Comments so far

  1. ProudAspie

    I live with Asperger’s and I’m 27 years old.

    I can’t get disability because I don’t fit the criteria to be considered “disabled enough”

    I get hounded constantly by Centrelink to do these ridiculous job searching stuff when I can’t hold a job because of my Autism Spectrum.

    I hate being in social situations where I’m with judgemental barstards who don’t know the first thing about me.

    I can’t hold down a permanent position at work because of Asperger’s. 

    My CV isn’t great because I have held so many jobs in the last 10 years, and I’ve worked some jobs that have permanently damaged me, emotionally.

    People see that and go “oh you like to chop and change a lot” and don’t see the full picture. I went to a job interview where all the guy did was say you can’t seem to hold a permanent job.

    Centrelink really has done some damage to me lately. I have been depressed and all the insensitive government does is laugh in my face.

    I’m highly intelligent and am studying a university degree where I am in the top of the class.

    I struggle living with it everyday, and the judgements I get from being a “retard” to a “bitch” to being plain “stupid”

    I’m not like a lot of people. I don’t process things the same way, I don’t always get your jokes and because I don’t have good social skills or eye contact I’m branded a liar and an outcast.

    It hurts when people judge you harshly for what I’m not. 

    I have a beautiful partner, who is the most understanding person on this planet, and I have great friends who stick up for me when people criticise me for someone I’m not. 

    One of my more famed moments was when I had a panic attack at a football game about 2 years ago – there were too many people (I hate crowds) my routine had been broken and I was getting agitated.

    Mind you my team had lost and was very upset.

    The girl sitting next to me then told me I should grow up and stop acting like a child as its only a game. 

    I reacted badly, security had to be called as I was apparently – Intoxicated.

    The police then spoke to me, and I don’t usually get a word in edgewise, but the policeman on duty was extremely understanding and gave the girl a serve, and security a serve too.

    I wonder how Julia Gillard would survive on what earn from Centrelink a fortnight $450 is what I get.

    Ridiculous. Yes.

    I go sometimes days without food, I can’t always go out with my friends, I can’t treat myself to anything nice, or go to see my family who live in NZ.

    Good on you Stella for writing this! It needs to change, I’m not the only one who gets this intolerable treatment. My nephew knows how to respect and treat all people equally. At the age of 4.

    He’s only a child. People out there who do this are Adults. Seriously grow up!

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  2. Lindsay

    The whole DSP process is so demoralizing, I can’t imagine why anyone would think it’s some kind of easy-out… After going through each step (and having my doctors all confirm I am unable to work in the foreseeable future) I was summarily dismissed as my boyfriend apparently earns too much money. Never mind that we don’t share bank accounts or the more important fact that I do not want him having to pay for all of my medical expenses. I’ve never received any kind of government assistance and now that I really need it, I’m ineligible because of the one thing in my life that’s positive.

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  3. caramel80

    never heard of mong before!

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  4. Nobody

    Once at the bank, I was enquiring about bank fees and whether or not I am exempt from them as I am on DSP for mental illness.
    I was told by the person working at the service desk that I didn’t “look disabled” and seemed “mentally ok”. Then he asked what my disability was (overstepped the mark a bit there!) to which I replied, “that’s irrelevant and none of your business”. It seemed that in order to get exempt from fees, I would have to be physically (and obviously) disabled and therefore unable to access atms and such. I complained to the manager about the treatment I got and am now exempt from fees.

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    • ClaireC

      I didn’t know disabled people are exempt from bank fees? Is this law or determinable by the banks themselves? Very rude by the way of the bank employee to make such comments about your disability!

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      • Nobody

        I’m really not sure if everyone on DSP is exempt from bank fees or if it was a peace offering by the bank manager!
        It was all very confusing when the first guy attempted to explain it to me, still it’s worth asking the bank about it :)

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  5. Diana The Huntress

    Oh, how I hear this. I look completely able. I have no physical disability. I’m highly intelligent, have a rich social life and I exercise regularly. I go to art events, live music, cultural festivals. Due to being on the autism spectrum I struggle to find and keep a job as I find basic, life-skill type things an incredible challenge due to being very easily overwhelmed by things other people don’t even notice. I’m doing a uni degree but my progress has been painstakingly slow because I process information differently to other people. I have received Centrelink assistance for longer than I would like. I shudder at what those godawful secret Today Tonight cameras and the armchair juries would make of me, as I look completely fine.

    And for what it’s worth I think Ricky’s hysterically funny. He did a routine about autism that I found hilarious. I think the issue isn’t so much language as intent.

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    • Anonymous

      Oh, and Stella, you’re awesome. I used to watch No Limits and loved it. I saw you at the train station once and wanted to come up and tell you that but was too shy. :)

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      • Diana The Huntress

        That was me. D’oh.

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  6. LindaS

    We have just gone through the DSP process and despite having two specialists reports saying my husband had less than 3 months to live Centrelink made it very, very difficult. Some staff were perfectly lovely but one in particular insisted he go for a job assessment interview! We had to tell them he would love to work – but probably couldn’t commit to anything long term because of the whole imminent death thing but she was insistent. We had to advise we would get an advocate and argue it before they came to their senses. Its such a difficult and time consuming that I find it hard to believe there are many people out there who are rorting it. I am convinced that the overwhelming majority of DSP recipients are using their measly $250 a week on really glam & extravagant things like, food, shelter and medication, all while being made to feel guilty & like a burden. I have such respect & admiration for people who have had to go through the DSP process over the long term. Never, ever feel ashamed of claiming and if you have a hard time with the process you have to shout your story loud! It’s the only way things will change.

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    • lucindainthesky

      Linda that is horrible! That is a media worthy story… centrelink are soooooooooo stupid sometimes it is unbelievable. That must have been horrible for both you and your husband to go through, given that you were already dealing with the imminent death thing. i thought I’d heard it all, but that takes the cake. Thank you for sharing.

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    • Diana The Huntress

      I’m so sorry, Linda. That is horrendous. People can be so heartless!

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    • rainbow

      i am so sorry to hear you had to go through that. i hope you have the energy to make a formal complaint about it. you don’t have to do it straight away but keep it in mind, if you haven’t already done it.

      no one should be treated like that.

      wishing you the best

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    • Lindsay

      That’s reprehensible. Wishing you and your husband the best.

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    • karyn wood

      Which state do you live in Linda? I’d like to talk to you about this. karyn.wood@abc.net.au if you’re interested. Good luck!

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  7. C'mon!

    Am I the only one that found miss kitchen/cleaning chicky REALLY annoying and distracting? It was pretty obvious there was an interview being recorded. Surely she could have waited until it was done!

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    • ex "cleaning chicky"

      she has a job to do and in order to get in the room someone would have told her it was fine for her to go about her job. Mia should have put the privacy sign on the door. It isant her fault she has to be able to to her job as much as the next person.

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  8. Anonymous

    what a lot of people dont understand about being on dsp is this.
    while most of us would love to hold down a job if we ask for job search assistance we can be either denied (because there is nothing in your area) or informed that because you ‘can’ work your payement is stripped and not only does that affect you but anyone else in the family on payments. if we can work over 12 hours a week ( even if we only earn 60 dollars) we have our dsp removed. which has a prefound effect again on other family members payments. even doing 16 hrs of volunteer work can strip your payment. its just ridiculous.

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  9. stacem

    Ricky is right though, words do change over time and their degree of offensiveness. My 90yo grandma would often call children with a disability retarded or Down Syndrome children ‘mongoloid’. She was the kindest and most compassionate lady and would never have meant offense it was just the language of her era. I would be horrified whenever we discussed my work (working with children with disabilities) but soon realised she just didn’t know it was so very inappropriate. Great article Stella x

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  10. chandrarogers

    Regarding the stranger who asked if you have a vagina, I had someone ask me if I could have sex. Without skipping a beat I asked, “Why, are you propositioning me?” I wish we all could have a snappy comeback at the ready for every potentially nosy encounter. I also figured you’d appreciate knowing you’re not the only one who’s gotten those sorts of questions.

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  11. Grace

    10 seconds into that interview I wanted to become friends with Stella. What an awesome woman.

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  12. lucindainthesky

    You are a fabulous and interesting writer Stella. There is no doubt that language is a powerful tool for a multitude of purposes, and the truth is that just about anyone can manipulate language to suit themselves. Sadly we live in a society that constantly tries to use PC language to hide narrow minded, prejudiced and archaic attitudes. As the saying goes, actions speak much louder than words… yet collectively, the media loves to use words to bait readers into believing whatever garbage they spin. And sadly very few of this lazy generation actually challenge what they read or hear in the era of information overload.

    My local paper published a story today about a teenage boy who was so addicted to a computer game that his parents had been unable to get him to school in 2 years despite the school coming out to talk to him, and having very violent outbursts when he was removed from the computer. The newspaper had reported that there was a push to have “internet addiction disorder” recognised as a mental health problem. However instead of painting the picture of a widespread or serious problem, they painted a picture of a child who has been the victim of bad parenting… and that is exactly what the readers came out assuming. There was lucky to have been one comment in 50 that suggested that maybe the child’s problems ran deeper than computer addiction or bad parenting. Perhaps this child has an Autistic Spectrum Disorder and the computer fixation is an indicator, perhaps his parents felt ill-equipped to deal with his behavioural problems and there wasn’t enough support for them… there were so many things deliberately ill-considered in this poor excuse for journalism, leading readers to make assumptions based on what the story appeared to be implying. The assumptions these types of articles make and encourage other people to make about people who are different, in a minority or at a social disadvantage in the world, really reflects the type of society we have become. It’s not a very nice one!

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  13. Mel

    Wow reading other people’s comments really make me think.

    When my cuz started uni they gave her a huge book of what to say and what not to, to make her assignments politically correct. Ie it is fireperson no fireman etc.

    I am with a lot of these people in that some words really make me angry while others don’t. But others may feel the same about other words that I fell are not offensive. Like the word gay to me is not acceptable to use as a desciptive word but I say work is a bit crazy or mental at the moment and I see some people on here find that offensive.

    This is a great article because it’s made me think about the terms I use and how others may feel about them. Thanks

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  14. carlyfindlay

    I recently went out with a group of friends, and one girl with a disability was so homophobic towards Darren Hayes after I mentioned I had just seen him in concert. She was calling him a ‘poof’ and ‘fag’ and criticising me for loving him because he is gay.

    When I said I didn’t like her speaking this way, and to consider the words she used were just as hurtful as the names people have called her because of her disability, she just didn’t understand the comparison.

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  15. Rusty Hoe

    The salsa class issue resounds for me. If you saw me at the shops you wouldn’t know I was ill. I have a cane to walk, but other than that I tend to look well. if you saw me at the shops you’d probably wonder why I wasn’t at work in the middle of the day. If I told you I was disabled you’d probably scoff (believe me I’ve had that).

    What you don’t see is that in order to shop for an hour, I have had to rest all morning, have additional medications, and I probably washed and showered the day before, because I don’t have the energy to shower on the day I want to shop for an hour. You don’t see the car trip to the shops with my head between my legs whilst I grasp a puke bag ‘just in case’. Or the 10 minutes sitting in the car with the AC on to work my body up to going into the shopping centre.

    Whilst you see me standing there looking at the dress on the hanger you don’t see that I am willing my legs to hold me up, that I am praying I don’t pass out or vomit in public. You don’t see my hr skyrocketing then dropping rapidly or the fact that I can’t quite string a sentence together because the blood isn’t quite reaching my brain. You don’t see this is the first time in a month I was actually well enough to get to the shops.

    What you don’t see after that is my husband having to carry or hold me up to get back to the car. Then there is the crash. The overwhelming fatigue, the waves of nausea, tachycardia, the migraine, or the next day spent in bed because each time I stand my legs collapse and I end up face first on the floor. All because my normal looking body is broken and continuing to break on the inside.

    All you see is a woman in her late thirties out shopping for dresses.

    I wish before judging people would realise that not all disabilities are visible and perhaps visible or not, you may have no idea of the effort or cost involved to go out for an afternoon shopping, to a ‘salsa class’ or even out for a simple coffee. This reality is disability has many faces and just because you don’t instantly recognise it, doesn’t mean it’s not very real.

    Thanks Stella for another great piece.

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    • carlyfindlay

      And that comment was just as powerful as Stella’s post, RustyHoe :) Kudos to you xx

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    • Bern

      Thanks for such a powerful insight into your disability and the challenges you face. A fantastic reminder to approach everyone we meet with open mind and compassion. I hope there is hope for your condition to improve over time.

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  16. dfordezi

    Excellent article Stella (I love your name!). I too have a disability, albeit invisible from the outside. I cannot work due to the unpredictable nature of my health. I don’t complain or explain it to most of my friends in detail as my problems are bowel related and most people find that gross. Some people are insensitive enough to tell me they wish they could stay home and didn’t have to go to work, my response is usually “great, let’s swap then!”

    I wish I could get some assistance from the government, but due to my husbands income, I am not entitled to anything. A bit unfair in my opinion, as I was a full time employee for 20 years and paid all my taxes. Even some relief from medical expenses would be helpful! Oh well, there is always someone worse off than me.

    Anyway, I think my point was to reinforce that old saying, don’t judge a book by its cover… I look perfectly normal from the outside, but oh boy, if you could see what’s under these clothes…

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  17. TessGirl

    STELLA YOUNG IS THE BEST PERSON. her article in frankie was genius.

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  18. Andrea

    I’m 30 and on the DSP, as I have Myalgic Encephalomyalitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or ME/CFS. I look pretty much “normal” on the outside, if you only look briefly. ME/CFS is incurable. Yes, it has syndrome in its name, but guess what, so does AIDS! What do you think the S in that’s for! Because my illness has such a trivialising name, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, people think it’s just tired, and I MUST be able to work if I wanted to. If only it were a matter of want! I’d love to work, but thanks to the constant exhaustion, flu like symptoms, muscle and joint pain, gastic issues, headaches, brain fog that’s unimaginable…I could go on and on. It’s all I can do to do basic daily tasks, and I mean the most basic of human necessities, like showering, let alone being able to get up, get ready, then go and put in even an hour or two at a job, it just couldn’t happen. Not with all the help in the world. I make a point of not talking about it to anyone who doesn’t know me extremely well, as 95% of the time I can see the judgement in their eyes. I’ve got CFS, well everyone gets tired, and there’s days when they don’t feel like going to work etc. are the most common things they say. Unless you’ve been in this boat, it’s hard to imagine how hurtful it is to have these things said to you. It’s not just tired, and if most people had any idea of the isolation of long term illness, they’d shut up quick.

    Disabilities come in all shapes sizes and especially appearances. Not one of us asked to be stuck with whatever it is that prevents us from leading “normal” lives. Telling us how to live our lives “better” or to eat better, get more exercise etc. isn’t helpful, it’s bloody hurtful!

    It all comes back to the old pearls of wisdom everyone’s heard at some point – don’t judge a book by its cover. And don’t label them.

    Bravo Stella. And bravo Mamamia for having the guts to publish something like this!

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    • Anonymous

      Oh Andrea, I’ve been where you are! I am improved (a bit) now and able to work/study part-time but still quite limited. I was doing that vague “health hasn’t been good, havent been able to work as much as I’d like, yep, probably won’t be able to manage that” thing with someone the other day and she said “You don’t have CFS do you?” I reluctantly confirmed that I did, and she said that her daughter has it and she recognised the vague answer! She then proceeded to go out of her way to help me with something! Such a relief when someone gets it without the justification and explanation.

      Not sure if some people thought I had a personality transplant at the age of 23 but it made more sense to them that I’d go from being a highly motivated, hard working person to a lazy, unmotivated bludger than that I was actually, you know, sick. It’s very hard.

      Brilliant article, Stella. The only reason I’ve been able to work (very slowly building up hours) the last few years, and not relapse severely, is the absolute best bosses in the world who worked with me and my limitations. With almost any other boss I’d have been extremely lucky to get hired and would have been fired many, many times.

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      • Tulipgirl

        Oh I wasn’t signed in when I posted the above reply. Whoops!

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  19. fender4eva

    Ricky Gervais, is Britain’s Kyle Sandilands. Enough said…….

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    • Anonymous

      I disagree!

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    • Jess

      I couldn’t disagree more, Ricky is intelligent, witty and hilarious. In other words, he has nothing in common with Kyle.

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      • WillaWay

        And the humility and grace to publicly state he was wrong and apologise. Definitely not Kyle-style.

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    • Kate

      You are very very wrong.

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    • Diana The Huntress

      No way! Ricky is erudite, intelligent and his jokes have depth. If you look past the initial offensiveness, there’s usually a deeper point he’s trying to make. Ricky’s not a person whose jokes you’d take at face value. He has nuance. Kyle Sandilands is an overpaid, overindulged, oxygen-thieving douchebag with an IQ smaller than his tiny member.

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    • Lindsay

      I STRONGLY disagree, for all of the reasons Diana mentioned and more.

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  20. Carly Findlay

    A really great article Stella. You’re right there are so many negative connotations through words used about people with disabilities.
    It is difficult having a visible disability/ chronic illness but I imagine the judgement and stigma of having an invisible one can be more difficult at times.

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  21. Tripitaka

    Just wanted to point out that ‘mong’ comes from ‘Mongoloid’ – a term which used to be used to describe people with Downs Syndrome because they supposedly looked like they were from Mongolia. So another reason this could be seen as offensive is because it’s also racist.

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    • Bookie

      I definitely agree with your statement that there’s a racist aspect to the use of “mong” based on the reference to Mongoloid. I just wanted to point out that Mongoloid can be used in a legitimate scientific context – some scientific streams define the three major races of man as Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid.
      I’ve been told off before by using the word “Mongoloid” legitimately because some people don’t realise it wasn’t originally a racist insult.

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  22. Amandarose

    I have 4 siblings on disability. One would love to work and he’s the one who can’t. The rest could but are social misfits who no one wants to employ. I guess it is about giving the fridge dwellers a bit of a go. They give up otherwise, become unmotivated and depressed and unemployments saps your self worth. why apply for jobs you feel your not worthy of getting?

    I would imagine alot of unemployed people fit in to that catagory- not lazy as such but given up.

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  23. Anon for this

    “See potential, not potential problems”. Although some fields or work are getting better, there are others where there are no opportunities. People with disabilities want the pride and satisfaction that comes with working a paid job, a job that they are qualified to do or would enjoy, not one that nobody else wants or a job that other people think they are capable of. It’s a vulnerable place to be in when you can’t find a job and you need to tell others about the things that you struggle with and still hope to be treated equally.

    Like you, I have two degrees and some postgrad study but because of issues with mental health problems in the past there is a huge gap in my CV. I have recovered from PTSD after emotional abuse and violence while growing up. Though, memories are always there. It’s hard to get a job now even though I do not need significant modifications or allowances to do my job.

    I get really upset when people joke about ‘mental institutions’ or psychiatric wards and joke about the way they used to be many years ago. I know that those places were like that years ago but mainly due to fear, social values, poor medication and medical care etc. I saw something on FB yesterday- one of those copy and paste things where it says ‘you’re in a mental institution’: which of your friends would be the one ‘licking the windows’, ‘person running around naked’ or ‘stealing more medication’ etc. I just couldn’t believe it. I wanted to say something but couldn’t. If you have ever had to go to one of those places to stay or visit you would know you do not need stereotypes being thrown around to make things worse. People need to feel supported to get help and sometimes that includes a stay in hospital or in supported community accommodation. I just can’t believe that in 2011 people still joke about mental institutions. It’s more the attitudes behind the words.

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    • Claire - Matching Pegs

      Yeah, I’ve seen that Facebook Meme and it pisses me off.

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    • clarinette

      I haven’t seen that facebook meme about the mental institution….but is it bad to say I chuckled when I read “the one licking the window” and thought “oh, that’d be me !” ? I don’t lick much except icecreams anymore, but my son still does a bit. I think it’s awefully cute, when you rub your finger on their upper lip and they absentmindedly stick their tongue out to lick it, like newborns do….
      I’m not very politically correct I guess, autistic people rarely are, the only insults I mind are the ones directed towards disabled people in hatred or contempt, jokes like that are harmless, in my eyes….
      Not because it’s ok to make fun of disabled people, but because I can’t get mad at uneducated people who have never even MET a disabled person…I’m also not saying not knowing any better is an EXCUSE , but I think it’s a proper EXPLANATION for their thoughtlesness.

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    • TotallyAgreeWithYou

      I hate any jokes about mental illness/psychiatric hospitals because mental illness is something which has affected me for years and I have been in and out of hospitals. Anything which pokes fun at my own personal hell is not cool and people who call me “crazy $%#@!” or a “psycho” don’t know how much it hurts.
      I’m on DSP. I haven’t worked in years. I’ve been labled a “dole bludger” and a “pill popper” (for taking prescribed medication!) and people say “Don’t you get bored sitting at home all day?”.
      Obviously it isn’t my prefered option but sometimes the most I can do is get out of bed, going anywhere requires a lot of planning, rituals and stress.

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  24. Susan Carland

    This is a brilliant and much-needed post, Stella. Love it.

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  25. Mel

    Yay Stella! Love your work!

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  26. JosieY

    My best friend is blind. She has a Masters degree, runs her own business and has two gorgeous boys. She can’t drive (obviously) or go to the shops on her own. Things that are easy for sighted people, like puring a cup of coffee or washing clothes, are just that bit harder for her. How anyone could resent the bit of money she gets from the government is beyond me.

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  27. Chrissy g

    Stella I could not agree more, continuous subtle insinuations and undercurrents are the most damaging… Eg how many times in the media do you hear Muslim attacked girl, versus Anglican attacked girl – It’s an attack. It’s wrong. It’s the the medias choice to identify a religion thereby adding to a discriminative subtext.

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    • Chrissy g

      Slightly off topic but you get my drift!

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  28. cw

    what a fantastic post. amazing!

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  29. Bec Sparrow

    Stella, I love this post. You’ve given me food for thought.

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  30. suki

    Great post and just want to edit one of Stella’s lines becuase I think in general, “Today Tonight and A Current Affair”… “simply do not reflect the truth.”

    If folks could just switch off that mnischeivious crap, the world would be a better place.

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    • picardie.girl

      Yes! And it is so much harder to be on any kind of pension or allowance than people think. ‘Welfare cheat’ is such an inflammatory term. It’s almost as bad as ‘boat people’.

      I swear getting Centrelink unemployment payments are much harder than getting a job in many ways.

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  31. Guest

    I’m on the DSP and I get a lot of judgement, so I try to keep it to myself. I look ‘fine’, because my condition is mental. I’m in a difficult position, when I first diagnosed I tried going straight back to full-time work, twice, and got sick again. On the DSP I am limited to 15 hours per week work. There is currently no in-between. Thankfully the govt have recognised that they were preventing gradual supported return to work and in July the hours go up to 30 per week (you lose part of your pension for working but come out better for it). The more I can work and still get a bit of support the more society can save. Trapping people between 15 hours or full time (part-time is hard to find, often unstable and often not enough money) is currently preventing a lot of people from supporting themselves to a greater extent.

    I am now going back to uni to retrain, and I hope to do this on my DSP, or at least Austudy. I don’t care if some people think it’s wrong I may be able to go and study full-time, work a little, live at home and be supported. I’m in my mid-20′s with no proper career due to illness interruptions. 2 years of support = me getting a career and job and some savings behind me so the next time I get sick I can support myself. It’s a worthwhile investment in keeping me off support in the future, but some people just can’t see that. Or I could just stay a waitress on government support forever.

    And the point about salsa class is so right, it’s hard when you are slapped down for trying to get better, like doing exercise or seeing friends.

    Most people on the DSP are doing the right thing.

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  32. Cordeline

    Mental. I know lots of people who say ‘the kids were mental today’ or ‘I’m so busy, it’s mental’.

    You’re right Stella, why do some people get offended by some words, and not others? I can’t say I am ‘offended’ by the above examples of the word mental. I just don’t like it. But the word ‘crazy’ used in the same context doesn’t bother me. And yet, I am sure it would other people.

    I can’t explain it.

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  33. Rudyroo

    Great article. I like how Stella is straight down the line, down to earth in her communications.

    The word I ban in my house, aside from the obvious, is Stupid. It is used in extremely derogatory terms very often by children and adults alike. Most often in name calling ‘ you stupid girl ‘ or ‘I’m so stupid’ . I think it is also underestimated how extremely damaging it can be to a young self esteem. I think I would almost prefer my kids to say fuck than to use stupid as an adjective.

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  34. roserusso

    Great post. Stella is one of my favourite writers on here and this video is very funny and definitely worth a watch.. I watched it a few weeks ago.

    If my brother were still alive today (he died from Spinabifida when he was a baby) he would be wheelchair dependent and most likely find it hard to work to a roster shift.

    My step sister also suffered from Cystic Fibrosis and she looked perfectly healthy if you didn’t know her condition.

    People judge unfortunately and yes people do abuse the disability pension but it is there for a reason.

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  35. Stacey

    what a fantastic article this is!!! Really opened my eyes to certain little things the general public are not exposed to, in regards to the disabled members of our broad community. Very refreshing to read indeed.

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  36. picardie.girl

    A truly excellent post. I’ll admit to having used ‘mong’ to mean ‘uncoordinated person/idiot’ – I didn’t realise where it came from.

    The intent is definitely key in the offensiveness of a word. That said, there are some words that will always get my hackles up, because I think it is impossible to say them with anything other than bad intent.

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  37. thatgirlfiona

    Oh definitely! I find it so strange that the some of the public believes that people with disabilities are lazy and can’t be bothered getting jobs. Do you know how many of them would love to carry out a job? I think we forget how much sense of satisfaction in life is tied to the work we do. Ironically, I work with people with disabilities, so I see it from both sides. If they had the chance to work, they would. Obviously I can’t speak for all people with disabilities, but I do know that many of them want to have the same opportunities that everyone else has.

    My dad works at the local council and told me that a few weeks ago, a carer and about 15 people with disabilities had a meeting with him, and they were proposing that they clean graffiti from the community. Not to be paid, not to get credit, but because they wanted to help. Obviously it’s a bit easier for people with mental or intellectual disabilities to work, as opposed to people with mental, intellectual and physical disabilities (Who I work with) to work, but still!

    I would like to say that I do like the word ‘retarded’ though, but not when name calling people with disabilities. When cooking, you retard things. Retarding is a useful, handy word. I wish it weren’t associated with horrid name-calling.

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    • Miss J

      When I think of the word “retard” or “retarded”, I think of it more in terms of cooking or gardening or even with mechanics. It’s not easy, either, when the correct word to use is an ‘incorrect’ word

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      • Anonymous

        For me it’s fire blankets: Fire retardant.
        There is a very interesting article on Wikipedia about what they call the “euphemism treadmill”. It explains how some words can develop negative connotations even though they are the correct word to use.

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        • Tripitaka

          I was reading this article just the other day! It was very interesting. A lot of words like idiot, imbecile, moron were actually once words used to categorise people with varying degress of low IQ. So when a new word finds it way in to the language (like retarded) through time it becomes offensive as well, because people use it as an insult. But maybe this is changing with the new language? I’ve never heard anyone say “intellectually disabled” or “developmentally delayed” as an insult.

          Great article by the way!!

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    • Angela

      In teaching music, I have a discussion once a year with my classes about the common musical term ‘ritardando’ (to slow down).

      “Yes, it sounds like ‘retard’. No it’s not funny. We are better than that. Now, let’s look at how to use it properly in a sentence…”

      Only the truly immature try to hang onto a joke after that.

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      • Lou

        I love the sentence ‘We are better than that’. Might help stop some of the immaturity :) I’m going to pinch it!

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  38. Anonymous

    Some people aren’t very smart, just like some people are disabled, just like some people are homosexual.

    I think people of this internet age have especially stopped trying to please others, because even the blandest comments can upset people. No offense Stella. :-P

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    • Leonie

      There is a bigger picture than just thoughtless words & not being pc with this & Stella has commented exceptionally well on it in this article. Its the shift in attitude towards people with disabilities that is being driven by sensationalist media & also by statements by politicians. Here in Aus it has not reached the intensity of what has been happening for over a year in the UK. There has been radical cuts to disability happening there & demonisation of the disabled has occurred, so that hate crimes have increased, as have suicides by people with disabilities. We can’t sit by & think it will never happen here, the first signs of it have already been appearing. If we speak out now before the lies & hate become widely accepted, we have a better chance of preventing it from ever reaching the point it has in England. If you want to know more about it check out Black Flag & The Broken of Britain on facebook.

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  39. Nak

    Thankyou Stella. The excessive focus on people on the DSP makes me so angry, and you’ve articulated for me some of the reasons why.

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  40. Lorren

    What an excellent post this is!

    It’s sometimes strange how we go “into bat” for another when we believe they are being “wronged” but never asking the question if it’s true or if they need defending at all.

    Thanks for sharing Stella. I’ve certainly learnt something today!

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    • picardie.girl

      Perhaps it might be a good thing if instead of jumping on people who use words that we find offensive, we could start a discourse: “What does that word mean to you?”

      It gives that person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they don’t realise it’s offensive. If you happen to know more about a particular word and its meaning (such as ‘mong’) and can enlighten them, without attacking them, I think you will have made a greater difference than just getting angry.

      Making room for discussion will always get you further than attacking someone – you could bring them around to your point of view.

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  41. KC

    Not about the words, but about appearances being deceiving. My mum has terminal cancer. From the outside, she looks pretty good. But she can’t walk far without being exhausted, can’t be in the sun for long because of treatment and may need to get back to the car quickly if she’s feeling especially unwell. So she has a disabled parking permit. And because, from the outside, she looks fine, she has been publicly abused for using a disabled parking bay – and I’ve witnessed this (and believe me, I’ve had something to say about it). I think this is a lesson to look outside stereotypes. Brilliant article

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    • Becnherboys

      My uncle is very fit and healthy, works out everyday, drives a nice car, has a young family and he only has one leg. He lost the other in a horse riding accident. Very rarely he will park in a disabled spot ( he had a permit ) and on most occasions some “do gooder” will abuse him for it. Looks can be deceiving!

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      • The Little Red Hen

        The same thing happens to my mother who is a leg amputee. She rarely uses her disabled permit but occasionally when she does, people will abuse her for it. It makes me more angry than it seems to make her! She just says it’s their problem. She’s awesome.

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    • picardie.girl

      I had a wheelchair-bound neighbour whose parents often collected him from the shops. I’m certain they were abused more than once for using a disabled space. Yes, they ARE able-bodied – but that doesn’t mean they don’t need the space! They’re picking up a disabled person.

      Again – look outside. Think about what the context may be.

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    • Lu

      You are spot on. I have a relative with a chronic lung condition meaning she cant walk up hills, up stairs or very far on the flat without having to sit down and use her inhaler. Yet she looks very healthy and isnt very old. She has a disability parking permit too and when I take her shopping and we park in the disabled spots (when they are available) we have had people shake their heads and yell at us. When the spots have been unavailable I have been yelled at and honked for dropping her off close to the shop entry. People must think that she is lazy for wanting to be dropped at the door but there are often many reasons for this. You cant judge a book by its cover.

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  42. NaesMum

    Thankyou SO much for writing this! Just what I needed to read this morning <3

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  43. Neola

    Great article, Stella. I was on the DSP for a few years, when I was no longer able to work in my very physical job. At the time, I felt a huge shame in it and went straight into studying so I could retrain and find a job that didn’t require me to stand up and walk.

    I voluntarily went off the DSP as soon as I graduated and from what I’ve heard, they make it so much harder to qualify for it these days (probably thanks to inflammatory pieces on those god-awful ‘current affairs’ shows). I worry that if I ever need it again, I won’t be able to prove it, as my condition is quite unpredictable.

    People like us often spend so much of our mental energy trying to project a positive and capable persona to the world. I know I don’t like talking about my limitations or the pain I’m in to people around me – so it can be hard for employers and colleagues to understand when you need a few concessions here and there.

    I work with several people with disabilities and I know for sure they work their butts off to prove themselves.

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    • Neola

      P.S. I had no idea that mong meant that!
      P.P.S. I’m not really a fan of the word ‘slutty’. I didn’t realise it until recently, when a (male) colleague used it to describe a woman’s shoes.

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  44. Claire - Matching Pegs

    I get distressed every time I hear someone use the word “psychotic”, when they mean murderously aggressive.

    When someone is psychotic, it means they are in a state of psychosis, ie. divorced from reality. It does not indicate any violence at all.

    My twin brother has had many periods of psychosis over the years, and he has never, ever been violent or aggressive in any way.

    Usually he has been convinced that animals are giving him messages, or that he has to save the world by not using any energy, or that his mobile phone is dangerous and should be pulled apart.

    The things he does that are dangerous, are because he has lost touch with reality, and is unconcerned for his own safety – like walking out into traffic, because he is not seeing what the rest of us are. He is always at the most risk.

    Please be careful and avoid the use of the term psychotic, unless you are using it properly, it just keeps stigmatising some of the most vulnerable people in society, implying they are all dangereous and likely to attack you.

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  45. littlemisschloe

    I had never considered those exposes and articles to be discriminatory before reading this.

    I will think of this article everytime I hear about disability cheats in the future.

    Well done Stella for bringing attention to a fascinating and, for people like myself, overlooked issue.

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  46. Lindat44

    What a thought provoking piece. Thanks Stella for sharing and also thanks MM for publishing such a powerful post.

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  47. Laws for Clouds

    I really think the words count more than the attitude, although my thinking on this has changed over the last week.

    The word nigger is totally inappropriate and offensive. Except rap artists use it all the time (probably others do too, but for the point of this story lets single out musicians). I am trying to explain to my 9yo why he can’t say it, but they can play it on the radio.

    If it’s offensive, it should be offensive across the board. Not using the word is going to be the best way to end it’s life.

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    • Lorren

      Hmmm – but when you think of the word “wog” – today it has mainly positive conotations.

      However, when my Dad was growing up (oh, we’re Italian’s by the way, and all of my Dad’s friends were either Greek, Italian, Maltese etc) – wog was so offensive that he changed the pronounciation, and even the way our surname is written by combinging the 2 names, and making the first letter a capital.

      Today though, I’ll happily say I’m a wog. Talk about our woggy gatherings, laugh when I see certain houses or features and proclaim “has to be a wog” (ie excessive use of concrete in the gardens, or oversized leather furniture in small areas).

      So I agree more with the author – it’s about intent. Wog in my Dad’s day was used to discriminate. Wog in my day is used to bond.

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      • Laws for Clouds

        I think that is an example of the word being claimed by the people it refers to (another example I can think of is spastic). In America people are fired from their jobs for calling someone a nigger, I really don’t think anyone wants to claim it.

        But I see your point, and I’m a Pom and happy to use what used to be a derogatory term also!

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    • Karyn Melbourne

      I despise the use of the “N-word” to the point where I will tell people off for using it. I believe that most people (generalising) don’t realise the origin of the word

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  48. Context is a funny thing isn’t it…

    If I said “Rick is Gay” everyone would probably say, “Yes. Yes he is.”

    If I said this article is totally gay (which it isn’t) I’d be jumped on from 1000 directions…

    Language is powerful. Choose your words carefully.

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    • Susan As Well

      And try to make amends, apologise or whatever when you choose your words carelessly…

      And take account of the difficulties of picking up nuances of language on the internet, tweets, texts, facebook, emails…

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      • bb

        Yes, accurate communication by electronic means is very difficult.

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    • Rick Morton

      And if you said ‘This post is clouds’ people would look at you funny. And rightfully so ;)

      Brilliant post.

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    • JosieY

      Occasionally my students will tell me that a piece of music is gay. I always ask something along the lines of ‘really? Is it attracted to other pieces of music? Or only treble clefs?” They are very confused unti I explain that ‘gay’ at the moment reffers to sexual orientation so can’t really be applied to music/school/colours etc.

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