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I’m always fascinated by how we can think we know someone famous just from what we see of them in the media. There are certain celebrities whose public personas are sooo OTT, they’re almost cartoons.

Like Katie Price – aka Jordan. You know, she was married to Peter Andre (and one or two others I think), wears ridiculous clothes and lives her life through the pages of celebrity magazines who pay her a fortune to chronicle every melodramatic moment in her life.

But this week in the UK, in response to some appalling ‘jokes’ made by UK comedian Frankie Boyle about her profoundly disabled son Harvey, Katie showed a different side of herself.

In an open letter to coincide with the broadcast of her documentary “Standing Up For Harvey” about what it’s like caring for her disabled son, Katie let fly.

Here’s some of the doco:

And in the UK Press,  Katie Price writes:

“My son, Harvey, turned nine last month, and we held a little party to celebrate.

The only guests were immediate family — too much activity causes Harvey stress and his behaviour can become disruptive — but he did have a big cake decorated with a picture of a frog.

Harvey loves cakes. He always enjoys blowing out the candles, and he adores frogs. They are his latest obsession. He draws them so carefully — the bulging eyes, the long back legs — and colours them in bright green. At the moment, every scrap of paper in the house is covered in leaping frogs.

The cake and the frog obsession explain a lot about Harvey. Most mothers of nine-year-olds might boast that their child is learning French or the violin. I’m just pleased and proud that Harvey can draw, observe and see colours.

Soon after he was born, I was told he had a serious problem with his sight. Later, I learned that he was blind. Actually, he has some residual vision, and he is brilliant at using it.

He recognises colours and shapes. He has even learned to turn them into pictures. He draws the same things obsessively, over and over again. First it was aeroplanes, then rainbows, now it’s frogs. That’s down to his autism. Like most children with the condition, he periodically gets fixated on one subject.

He is also compulsive about routines. Nothing must disturb Harvey’s ordered world, or there is hell to pay. The cake is another matter. Harvey eats and eats, and if I did not stop him he would do so continually. He is prone to weight-gain, but he is not greedy.

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He has a clinical condition — I’ll come to that later — which means he can’t control his appetite. The hormones that control his growth are also out of kilter. So he is bigger than most kids. But to the ignorant, Harvey is just a big, fat, blind kid — and he has been called that many times.

I’ve only skimmed the surface of the problems facing my much-loved eldest child, but by now you know enough about Harvey’s disabilities to understand the hurdles he leaps each day.

So you will understand the extent of my shock and anger when I learned that Frankie Boyle, the comedian — though he barely deserves the title — had singled my son out to be the butt of a vile ‘joke’.

To convey the full impact of what Boyle said on his Channel 4 ‘comedy’ show last December, I must, I’m afraid, repeat his offensive remarks in full.

To begin with, he said my ex-husband, Peter Andre, and I had been fighting over custody of Harvey. ‘Eventually one of them will lose and have to keep him,’ Boyle said.

That is the type of cruel offence we expect disabled people to accept. If you are disabled, you are a burden, and people want rid of you.

Then Boyle made a remark so offensive it has no place in civilised society.

Referring to my second marriage, to Alex Reid — we have since separated — he said: ‘I have a theory about the reason Jordan married a cage-fighter — she needed a man strong enough to stop Harvey from f***ing her.’

I can’t overstate the outrage and revulsion I felt when I heard this attack on my vulnerable, disabled son. I am used to defending myself against insults and, at times, justified criticism.

I don’t deny there are aspects of my own life and past that have been controversial. I’ve made mistakes in equal measure to my success, but I can answer back — and I do. Harvey can’t.

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Boyle’s remark is vile on so many levels. Sadly, I’ve grown used to insensitive jokes about Harvey’s size. When Heat magazine published a sticker with the words ‘Harvey wants to eat me!’ across it, I was appalled.

But at least the magazine apologised. Boyle and Channel 4 have done neither. Boyle’s disgusting suggestion slandered my innocent son and insulted every disabled person in Britain.

Imagine if the reason Boyle gave for saying Harvey was capable of raping me was not because of his disability but because he is black. People would understand how discriminatory that is. It is just as discriminatory when the joke is based on someone’s disability.

That is why I have decided to talk openly, and in detail, about Harvey for the first time.

Tonight my television documentary about him, Katie: Standing Up For Harvey, introduces viewers to my campaign on behalf of every disabled child and adult in Britain.

I hope that, through the programme, Harvey’s disabilities will highlight the difficulties — and also the positives — faced by children with disabilities, and their families.

I have been forced to consider my role in putting Harvey in the firing line for Boyle’s humour. He, and Channel 4, have pointed out that I have put Harvey in the public domain by being photographed and filmed with him.

As a result, I have been accused of hypocrisy. I understand that to an extent, and take it on the chin.

But I have spent a lot of time talking to people and organisations who see Harvey as a positive role model, and I decided it was in my son’s interest — and in the interest of raising disability awareness — that he play a public role.

This is no justification for the discrimination Harvey has suffered. I want people to stop and think before they make crass jokes against people who can’t defend themselves.

Although the media regulator Ofcom upheld 500 complaints about Boyle’s remarks, and condemned Channel 4 for broadcasting them, it didn’t demand an on-air apology. Why not?

The decision was indefensible. As the broadcaster of the Paralympics, Channel 4 is, I feel, guilty of double-standards. They should never have broadcast Boyle’s foul joke.

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Even the Cabinet Minister responsible for broadcasting, Jeremy Hunt — and a committee of MPs — condemned Channel 4, and its boss David Abrahams, for refusing to apologise.

Since April, when Ofcom made its ruling, I have repeatedly asked Boyle, Abrahams and Channel 4 to apologise, to Harvey and to me. They have ignored my requests. Would they have been so blasé if Boyle’s slur had been racist? No chance.

So how would I like Boyle — a father-of-two who, I have since learned, once worked in a care home — to make amends for his insult?

Aside from an apology, I would also like him to learn some respect for those who are not able-bodied. Perhaps he would like to visit Harvey and spend a day in his shoes?

He would learn a valuable lesson. From Harvey’s example, Boyle might just begin to understand the nature of innocence.

Harvey has a greeting he learned from me as a little boy. ‘Hello sweetheart,’ he says, as he rubs his finger along your chin.

He is funny, too, and a wonderful mimic. He catches exactly the tone of his nanny’s voice — I have one day-time helper who does not live in — when she says: ‘See you later. Byeee!’

It is not easy dealing with Harvey’s challenging behaviour. To me, however, he will always be my perfect boy. I would not swap him for an able-bodied child, or send him to live in residential care.

My home will be his until the day I die and beyond — but looking after him is relentless. He can’t be left alone for a moment; we have to watch his every move.

So how did it all begin? Harvey was born in May 2002 in hospital in Brighton. His dad is the former footballer Dwight Yorke. I was besotted with my first baby (I’ve since had a son, Junior, six, and daughter Princess, four, with Peter Andre).

He was a calm, happy, adorable little boy. But when, at his routine six-week check, doctors told me his eyes were not following a moving object, that they were not focusing properly, I steeled myself for the worst.

But I didn’t cry. I think of myself as resilient, strong and resourceful. I just prepared myself for the journey ahead.

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It hasn’t been an easy one. We learned the full extent of Harvey’s disabilities little by little. To the ill-informed, Harvey may just appear to be fat and blind. To those of us who know the details, he faces many physical challenges.

He has septo-optic dysplasia, which causes his vision problems, and abnormalities in the pituitary gland, which controls growth and physical development.

He also has Prader-Willi syndrome, a rare genetic condition affecting the area of the brain that controls appetite. He is always thirsty, and always wants to eat.

Being autistic, he can be disruptive if his routine is suddenly changed without warning.

Harvey has taught me the virtue of patience. And, through him, too, I have learned the value of unconditional love.

My dear mum, Amy, gave up a much-loved job to help me care for him. If I am not there for the school run — and it’s a two-handed job because Harvey’s school is in Kent, while Junior and Princess go to schools in East Sussex — Mum will step in to help our nanny ferry the kids to school.

Harvey’s morning routine cannot be altered. Sometimes a tiny change in the order of things — his toast cut into the wrong shape at breakfast time or a window slamming — will send him into a frenzy of kicking and punching.

Our TVs are all covered with shatter-proof Perspex panels. I’ve lost count of the number of laptops and screens he has smashed. And if he doesn’t want to get into the car, he will sprawl on the floor, launch his head at a wall, or hit out at anyone in his path.

But on the days when he feels happy, he charms us all. He will sit in the car with me, urging me to go fast over the speed bumps. To Harvey, a car journey can be as much fun as a day at a theme park.

He speaks beautifully — we joke that he is the ‘posh’ member of the family — and his memory is wonderful. Sometimes he’ll repeat phrases we’d rather he forgot. ‘What’s happened to the bloody boiler?’ I heard him parroting the other day, after I’d been complaining months ago about the pool not heating up.

No doubt you’ll be thinking at this point: ‘Isn’t she lucky? She can afford a pool, a lovely home, a nanny.’ Of course, I am so much more fortunate than many parents who are caring, bravely and often without outside help, for disabled children. I know this and I appreciate that, in this respect at least, I am blessed.

But there would be no difference in the care a boy like Harvey needs whether he was born into privilege or poverty, and I understand the pressure that having such a child can put on any family.

Every day, six times a day, he needs medication to control and treat his various conditions. His drugs must be taken at 7am, 8am, 12.30pm, 2.30pm, 4.30pm and 8pm.

Every night before bed, there are two oral medicines which Harvey likes to take himself, and an injection which I give him (he chooses which leg).

Without his drugs, he dies — it’s as simple as that.

I don’t think about the day I’m no longer here to care for him, though I’ve made financial arrangements for him to be looked after always. As long as I have breath and life, he will live at home with me.

We have good days and bad days, funny days and challenging days, but I do not focus on what Harvey cannot do. He is my son and I love him to bits, which is why I will fight like a tigress for him — and for millions of children like him — against bullies like Frankie Boyle and the broadcasters who air him.

Boyle may think his humour is brave and ground-breaking. I think it’s pitiful, sickening and cruel. If he met my son, I think he’d feel remorse and shame for the remarks he made.

Every day I learn about love, fortitude and patience from Harvey. He is my perfect boy. He is my inspiration.”

 

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202 Comments so far

  1. Nicki

    The YouTube upload is no longer available, but Katie’s doco can be seen here: http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21084496cZqeGK2Q?h1=+Katie+Price%3A+Standing+Up+For+Harvey+Documentary%2F01

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  2. OCDProofReader

    Remember everyone, ‘definitely’ not ‘definately’.

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  3. Lisa

    Lovely article – and an honest open letter from a mother.

    This certainly paints a different picture of my perception of Katie Price.

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  4. J T L

    I thought it was a good joke. Nothing should ever be disallowed, we live in a free country.

    If you don’t like rude comedy – don’t fucking watch it!

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    • Karis

      Maybe so, but there need to be lines as to what one can say. He should be apologising for what he has said.

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  5. Angela

    She deserves so much respect and admiration for her love and protection of her lovely son. Love him and cherish him. Good for you Katie.

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  6. dancingprincess

    Anyone know where the video can be viewed? The embedded one above is no longer there. Are there any other copies of it on the net?

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  7. Kerrie

    Riddle me this:

    When John Galliano made anti-Semitic comments to a grown woman (pissed and in a restaurant in Paris) he was universally vilified, fired from his job, fined, threatened with imprisonment and generally excommunicated by the entire world.

    This fuqing clown (yes, that is no doubt his job title) makes hideously discriminatory comments against a child that are well beyond opinion or common decency and he scoots off to the next gig, no doubt with pat on back for his edgy, risky humour and with the backing of his employers and the media.

    World. Gone. Mad. I find it stunning that in the age of political correctness we live in, there has not been ANY action taken.

    I have newfound respect for Katie Price. Here was I thinking she was a vacuous poptart and it turns out she is a woman of significant substance with a greater mission this life. Standing ovation for her, what a dignified response.

    Please keep us all updated on this one, Mamamia!

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  8. samquigley

    Every member of the angry mob here needs to watch this talk by Ben Pobjie: http://arseh.at/benpobjie

    It’s long, so grab a cuppa and settle in/down.

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  9. Tamara

    What Frankie Boyle said is disgusting and obviously he had no other material to use, but to say what will bring his name shame for the rest of his life.
    Karma will look after him.
    Katie – keep up the good work, look after your children the best you can.

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  10. annadridan

    I have always liked Katie Price. Simply because despite her ‘celebrity’ status, she is, at the end of the day, a parent of a child with a disability-like me. I am glad she is speaking out. This ‘comedian’ makes me sick. And the people that find his words funny-even sicker.

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  11. Veronique

    This is Katy Prices true calling.
    Maybe all the other sh!t she has done is for this reason. To speak out for those who less fortunate with a broad audience.

    Thanks Katy, for humanitys sake.

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  12. Anna

    I have never heard of this girl or her child but I agree that the “comedian” is disgusting and completely out of line, and she is doing the right thing by tackling this issue. He should be absolutely ashamed of himself, and I am apalled that people actually laughed at what he said, it’s just revolting, UNFAIR and CRUEL.

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  13. David

    As a parent of a child who is severely auitistic with no language at all we too have faced the fact our child will always live with us. due to self injurous behaviour my wife has been asked if we hit our child. I understand the shit Katie goes through on a daily basis and also the bursts of light and joy that occur when you least expect them. Good on yopu Katie kick the wankers arse. ou have the profile to do so I unfortunately do not. But bigotry is appalling and sickening and arseholes like Frankie should never be able to work in public again with their vitriolic jokes. That is all

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  14. Lrc

    I believe that comedians have the right to “roast” people in the public eye but when it comes to a child who cannot defend themselves against such disgusting comments he should be ashamed of himself!
    Not only is this boy disabled quite severely he is 9-NINE years old! Sure his mum has done some questionable things and obviously enjoys the media spotlight, but she is an adult who can stand up for herself and respond to foul comments unlike this innocent boy.
    I am truly shocked that this father of 2 did not use better judgement, no words can relay my disgust at the treatment of this young boy.

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  15. phoodietweets

    That man should be FORCED to apologise. Legally. Atrocious behaviour. Completely unacceptable.

    As she says, he is an INNOCENT child.

    Disgusting.

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  16. ClaireC

    This doesn’t change my opinion of Katie Price, I think the way she raises her children as part of her brand is vile.

    I’ve heard her interviewed and I don’t believe for one second that she wrote that piece.

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    • David

      She may not have written that piece but to question a parent of a disabled child using them as part of the brand shows an ignorance almost as great as Frankie. I suggest unless you too have a child with a disability you have no idea of the absolute crap you go through onm a daily basis. I do. and yes I love my child as much as my other two. I also stand up for him and tell people like you and Frankie l;ife sucks and you have to work hard for the good stuff.

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    • Claudine

      No Mother, whether they live in the spotlight or not, should ever have to defend her child from someone saying something so utterly repulsive. That man should be banned from performing for all eternity. I think that having Harvey in the public spotlight shows that anyone can give birth to a child with a disability and it also helps to bring awareness to the help that people who aren’t as financially well off as Katie need when raising a disabled child. As a Mother myself, I respect Katie.

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    • Karis

      That is why they have people in PR.

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  17. SingleDad

    As a single Dad, I’m curious as to what if any assistance to Katy, Dwight Yorke provides, and to what he’s response has been to the so-called comedian! A few whacks to Frankies head would surely be justified as well as a week or so assisting with disabled kids

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  18. Flutterby

    No matter what, no mother should have the comment made that her child may rape her. No disabled person deserves those comments to be made especially an innocent child.

    Purely repugnant.

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  19. Caroline

    I’m ashamed to say I have always thought of Katie Price as a bit of a brainless idiot. Having read this article I realise the old saying about not judging a book by its cover is so true. I might not agree with some of the things she does but, when it comes to Harvey, Katie Price is clearly a caring, compassionate person and a wonderful Mum. Shame on Frankie Boyle for saying such awful things. Thanks for the article Mia, apart from anything else it’s reminded me not to be so judgmental!

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    • picardie.girl

      I have to second everything you’ve said here – me too. Thanks Mia.

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  20. Mel

    I’ll be honest I only know of Katie and think of her as Jordan. So this was what seems like an honest look at her life and love of her child. Good on her! What that sad excuse for a human said was wrong, in no way funny and should not have been aired by the network. I think she has used what’s at her disposal to get her anger across and while she has more than most at her disposal it’s not an uncommon thing for parents whose children are personally attacked and insulted to go on TV or in the paper.

    I’d also like to tell the people at the show who laughed are just as bad as the so called comedian. At a minimum they should have not laughed or walked out.

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  21. Kate!

    I have changed my mind about Katie Price after reading this article. I will no longer judge her simply as empty-headed trash. She is also a loving and protective mother, and I admire that. I did however have a little smirk at her statements in the video, of the value and pride one gets from earning a modest wage from doing an honest days work. Not sure how she would know about that stuff? Also the imaculate home with the white leather couches had me wondering where she keeps the children…? But good on her for standing up for her son so vigorously and articulately. People will think twice before they mess with Harvey again. And hopefully people will also have a think about where the line is between comedy and bigotry.

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  22. kathrynoncoast

    Autism is not caused by drug taking. After working in the early childhood field for 17 years I can tell you that much. I don’t know about Harvey’s other afflictions. Poor little boy, how sad for one child to have so many problems. As for Katie Price, I have always thought her to be another tarty woman who sells being ‘sexy’ for a living – but then I really don’t know much – this is the first article I have read about her. That so called ‘comedian’ sounds like a lowlife cowardly creep – can’t he think of anything that is actually funny to say? What’s wrong with people? Honestly. Who in gods name would think it’s funny to be so horrible to a little boy?

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  23. mm

    A flattering side to Katie, I wish her the best. Jokes about disabled people should never, ever be tolerated.

    Although I was wondering if Katie’s drug taking during this pregnancy has anything to do with Harvey’s condition or are the two unrelated?

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    • Anonymous

      That is a flattering side to her but there is also another side which is not so flattering and just by reading that i still dont see her as a responsible parent and i think the way she portrays herself as Jordan opens the door for those cruel remarks towards her son .

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      • kathrynoncoast

        Mmm the photos aren’t too flash are they. But still – have a shot at her but leave that child alone.

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        • samquigley

          I’m sure I’ll be told that this isn’t the point, but, “have a shot at her but leave that child alone?” For what it’s worth, Harvey doesn’t seem particularly outraged.

          On a side note, for any of you who haven’t seen Frankie Boyle perform this gag (or every single other person commenting here, if you prefer), the next part of that line goes, “It’s my last tour and I don’t give a fuck.” So, you don’t have to worry about it happening again. He may be reprehensible, but he’s not John Farnham reprehensible.

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  24. shereehenley

    To have your child portrayed as some kind of less than human creature and laughed at in such a public way must have been soul crushing for Katie. Then to get no apology, no recognition that a terrible mistake was made, just rubs salt into the wound. I have a son with a disability and there are times when I am sickened by the cruelty of some of my fellow humans.

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  25. misskatedaily

    Good on Katie Price. I think this shows her in a very flattering light – as a human being and a mother. And I think her son is very lucky to have her in his corner.

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  26. Grace

    I have always been of the view that it is good to make jokes about things that are a hard in life, that it’s good to find even the smallest bright side of any bad situation. Take a funeral for example, I love it when someone makes a joke about what that person would have thought of the day and everyone cracks a smile through their tears and remembers something funny about that person too. But what Boyle said doesn’t really qualify as a joke, for one its not funny and two it is disgusting. It’s mean spirited and attacks someone who cannot protect themselves, and those types of “jokes” are never funny.

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  27. Piximum

    Surely, one of the gifts of parenthood is that you realise how precious all life is. And that you are reminded how we ALL have differing gifts and limitations. I just cannot understand how a parent could say those things about a child. Good luck to you and your family Katie. And if this man ever does a stand up tour here, you can expect me to exercise my free right to speech and find me protesting outside his shows.

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  28. Fiona McLennan

    I have always know of Katie and Harvey, but never seen deeper into their relationship. It is wonderful to see expressed the devotion, despair, love, anxiety and incredible closeness between mother and child, and to hear that in spite of some of the things we may hear or read about Katie, her love for her children is boundless, the same as we ‘average’ parents. Well done. Tough job. And to the many parents of children with disabilities – what an incredible thing you do daily, whether you live with your child or not – thank you for showing us things we may never have seen.

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  29. Sara

    Living in the UK, we unfortunately see alot of the Jordan side of Katie Price. I had heard that Katie Price is a very smart woman and just acts like ‘Jordan’ because it makes her money so it’s definitely nice to see this smart, loving, caring side to her.

    Good on her for standing up to the vile Frankie Boyle, who remains unapologetic. What a scumbag!

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  30. Secrets of Motherhood

    Tolerance, tolerance, tolerance, it really isn’t that hard people! Why is it so hard for us to see the world through others eyes, have a go, never know what you might see, maybe even Katie and Harveys world, imagine! We really are all more alike than we are different, get over what we think we know and show tolerance please, thank you Mia for the debate x

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  31. kateinlondon

    Some of the comments on here about Katie Price being inspiring and a role model are shocking to me. For the record, I think Frankie Boyle’s comments were disgusting and I am glad she is pursuing him. I also think the TV show, however much the cynical side of me believes it is yet another TV show designed to assist the Katie Price brand, is a great programme to appear on primetime television and from some of the comments below, clearly reflects some of the reality of bringing up a disabled child – which is wonderful. I have no doubt that Katie Price loves her child. I also don’t doubt that she puts time and effort into looking after him. And that she is clearly a street smart woman who has managed to go from nude model to celebrity brand who does everything from horse accessories to lingerie. she knows exactly how to manipulate every event in her life for maximum publicity and profit. HOWEVER – seriously, what kind of mother allows her children to appear on TV at such young ages over and over and over again? She says Harvey has appeared in her TV shows ‘a few times’. Utter garbage. Having had to sit through almost every one for a project I was working on – Harvey appears in every series, and sometimes has been the feature of episodes (see the episodes when the Price-Andre clan moves to America and Harvey goes to a new special school). Harvey also appears in photo-shoots regularly and she discusses him in interviews and books (four autobiographies thus far). She is seen on screen in in marital spats and simulating sex amongst other charming scenes – what wonderful memories of your parents to look back on one day. So yes, she seems to be a good mother, but that is a plaudit that belongs to every mother bringing up a disabled child – I don’t think we should hold her out as some sort of extraordinary mothering role model.

    Does anyone seriously think that Katie wrote that letter? Or the script for the show? She openly admits to all her books (horrifyingly some of the best sellers here in the UK) being ghost written as ” I don’t sit there with a typewriter and write it, of course I don’t…I don’t have time to do that.’’. Yes, most books are written on typewriters. Ahem. Her TV shows, her photo shoots, her books, her articles, her life, is carefully managed and packaged to be presented to the public. “I am thick, but I have common sense,” is her boast. She is regularly seen on her TV shows describing her tiny body as ‘fat’.

    The only thing I do admire her for is her honesty and candidness in a world of celebrity bollocks – you’ll never hear Kate Price denying she had plastic surgery.

    But she is artificial in the extreme. She parades her young children around the world. She is the face of ‘fake’ books, a lip sycncher of music and a perpetuator of the idea that being famous is the most important thing in the world. A recent study in the UK said that 63 per cent of teenage girls would rather become a topless model than a doctor or nurse. Of course they would – look how rich and famous you get being Katie Price. Why do you need an education? I’m sorry I sound so strident on this topic, but living in the UK where I am surrounded by Katie and many many more following in her footsteps, I weep for a country (or countries) where people would actually wish their daughters to grow up to be like Katie Price

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    • Amandarose

      Most Aussies didn’t know who she was until she hooked up with Peter Andre. They haven’t seen her in the papers every day, selling her trashiness day in and day out. they don’t hear 11 year olds asking for fake boobs to look like her. They don’t see her pimp every angle of her life and partying day in and day out until she is sick.

      they don’t she her pictures slapped about 7 months pregnant and off her face.

      So I guess here it it is easier to believe she is less of a media hungry exhibitionist then it is for those in the uk.

      Having said that there is something kind of honest about her- she doesn’t pretend she isn’t a media hungry big bobbed mummy who likes horses, attention and her children. and as she is so popular with teens at least they may watch it and be more compassionate.

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  32. angie

    wow thanks mamamia for posting about this. i just watched all 3 parts. i work with children with disabilities and see the difficulties (and the joys) families go through on a day to day basis. it’s most often not an easy life, and not one they have chosen, and society needs to support these people and families, not make cruel jokes about them. so you go Katie Price! you should be so proud of yourself for standing up for your beautiful boy.

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  33. sally

    There are two issues here – 1) should comedians be censored, and 2) Is Katie Price also a lovely, caring mother to a disabled child, as well a shameless exhibitionist and pathological attention seeker. The beauty of this documentary is that we can finally say YES, Katie Price has shown us a beautiful, compassionate and loving glimpse of her life with Harvey. Like most other people, I am thoroughly touched. But let’s not forget the job of a comedian is to push the boundaries of political correctness and that is why we need them in every society. Did he get it wrong? Well let’s not forget the crowd enjoyed it in the moment (did you hear the laughter?). With hindsight it was a disaster. Should he apologise? Totally up to him – but I hope so after this important response. But would I like comedians to stop making mistakes and present only jokes that offend no-one, nowhere? No way!

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    • Melissa J

      I see what you’re getting at with the comedian thing, but I said it somewhere below, true outrageous, shocking comedy has to come from a good place. And the comedian themselves has to have a good sense of humour and good nature about them to really get away with it. An comedian like Ricky Gervais who tells a truly shocking joke can get away with it because he’s good natured and it comes from a good place. An asshole who tells a really horrific joke like that guy did is just an asshole. I think the everyone laughing thing had more to do with the fact they were audience members and that was what was expected of them, a knee jerk reaction to the joke. Some of them probably did find it funny but I bet later they didn’t think the same. If the viewers reaction of 500 complaints is anything to go by anyway.
      I agree that there is a place for this type of comedy, but this joke was an example of how it’s not done.

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  34. orchid

    I just watched all three parts of the doco, I had tears streaming by the end.

    Whatever I thought of Katie Price before watching this has been completly forgotton, you can see how wonderful a mother she is, and how much she loves her son.

    Frankie Boyle is a disgusting vile pig, who deserves the worst Karma can give him. To say that about a child, any child, but especially a disabled child is appalling, and to not yet apologise, that is unbelievable!

    In the third part, she spoke to a comedian (I can’t remember her name) who tried to justify the jokes by saying that is his style of humour, it’s shock value and that’s what he does, of course he doesn’t believe it to be true, it’s just the shock value. In my opinion she is just as bad as Frankie Boyle, I don’t think jokes about disabilites are funny in any style of humour. Esepecially when they involve a specific child with incestual sexual conotations. I can’t imagine who would think this was funny??

    Katie and Harvey both deserve an apology from Frankie Boyle and Channel Four.

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  35. Nicki

    I’m so glad Mama Mia posted this. I read it and watched all 3 parts, and it’s been on my mind all day. I never really knew much about Katie except that she was married to Peter Andre, and she was a model/media personality, or something….thought she was a bit of a bimbo…….turns out she is actually an amazing, intelligent, and caring person. I love it when women prove that their beauty is more than skin-deep. Let’s hope she reads Mama Mia and can feel the support from so many of us. I wish her and her family all the best.

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  36. J

    This made me cry… not just for Harvey and that sick human being who calls himself a “comedian”, but for the way we judge people purely through what we read about them in gossip magazines! (I absolutely do this too, I hang my head in shame). I am so in awe of Katie Price right now… no amount of crazy lycra outfits or orange spray tan will make me think any differently of her from now on. After all, aren’t we all about accepting each other as we are here at mamamia? Her style may differ from ours but how incredible is she as a mother???? She deserves all our respect. Well done, Katie.

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  37. JellyBelly

    Little bit off topic but are people in the UK not outraged about this issue? Is there not enough public pressure for Boyle & Channel 4 to apologise?

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    • kateinlondon

      It was a top trending twitter topic here after the TV show aired, and it seems a lot of people are horrified by Frankie Boyle’s comments – but given her over-expsosure and weekly TV shows, front page of every trashy mag, etc etc it is hard for Katie Price to be taken seriously by a lot of people (however right or wrong that might be.)

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      • MellyJ

        I don’t see it has an issue of Katie Price needing to be taken seriously, but the rights and dignity of Harvey being taken seriously.

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        • kateinlondon

          But unfortunately Katie is Harvey’s voice.

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  38. Tania

    The comments by Boyle are reprehensible. Boyle is a sick bastard.

    He should not have said that about a disabled child. Full stop.

    Whether Katie contributed to her son’s condition is beside the point. If she did, she has to live with those decisions every day of her life as does the innocent Harvey. No one should be making jokes about him.

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  39. Kails

    Wow – there really are some harsh critics out there……Judgemental much?
    Despite all the big boobs, bad tans and big hair – at the end of the day she is a loving mother who is doing everything she can to defend her defenceless child. Give her some credit, people ! I’m sure if she did something wrong in her pregnancy she has to live with that every single day, every time she has to administer Harvey with oral or inject his meds. Not everyone is perfect – we are so quick to point the finger…….She is fighting for the reputation of her son and his disability first and foremost – and as someone with cerebral palsy – my comment is back off !! Let her fight this fight for her son and help to support the fight against discrimination in regards to disability…….

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  40. tastebud

    He can’t be much of a comedian if this the calibre of his material. Talk about unkind and lacking in taste.

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  41. Mango

    Thanks Mia for posting this.

    I’m not sure about your characterisation of Harvey’s disability as ‘profound’. If he is able to talk, he is doing better than many. My own daughter is severely disabled. I save the word ‘profound’ for some of her classmates who are unable to determine how and where they move.

    To some of the other posters, Prader-Willi syndrome is a genetic condition. Nothing Katie Price did or didn’t do in her pregnancy would have altered that.

    When I was pregnant with my daughter, I did not smoke, drink alcohol or even consume caffeine. I have never consumed drugs, ever. Sometimes genetic events occur (google de novo condition and learn more) and I found it unbelievably upsetting to have people ask whether I used to use drugs or whether I drank during my pregnancy, as if I could have controlled what happened.

    Conception, pregnancy and birth are complex events and in many ways it’s miraculous that so many babies are born as regular kids, without any health conditions or disabilities. Please try and put yourself in the position of people who have not been so lucky.

    I love my child dearly, and like Katie Price, wouldn’t swap her for anything. But every now and then, I wonder what she would be like if she was not disabled, and once upon a time, I wished it was not so.

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    • Tania

      Thank you for posting your perspective on this.

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  42. nat

    I dont care how vulgar you think someone is or how mnay bios or magazine covers they are one.. you never say anything about someones Kids.. Im not a big Katie Price fan But I support her 100% with this!!

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  43. jasminereid

    First things first, Frankie Boyle was completely out of line. Who makes fun of a defenseless disabled child? Nothing excuses what he said. No matter what you think of Katie, Harvey shouldn’t be subjected to that kind of behaviour.

    Now that I’ve said that, I want to defend the people who have spoken against Katie’s behaviour.
    The joke about Harvey was appalling. And yes, the way Katie carried on during her pregnancy with Harvey was also appalling.
    Katie did say in the beginning of the clip “I have made many mistakes”. So I am hoping that is some sort of acknowledgement that her behaviour was harmful to Harvey.
    I don’t care what anyone says, taking drugs, partying and drinking is GOING to have SOME NEGATIVE IMPACT on the baby. Whatever her reasons, she has helped shaped the rest of his life. Let’s not forget this just because she is pulling our heart-strings now.

    I am also a little cynical about celebrities. Looking over Katie’s history, she seems to make a habit of working the tabloids for what they’re worth. I am also quite cynical in believing this is another opportunity for her to grab some spot light and $$$.

    How many biographies does a glamour model need? Really?

    Mind you, as I said..This doesn’t excuse talking about Harvey the way Frankie did.
    But don’t think Katie won’t earn a few $$$ from this. Who else would make a documentary about this sort of thing?

    Let’s not be too naive people. Look over her history. She is milking.

    I feel sorry for Harvey.

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    • Cathy Crawley

      A quote from the Scottish Sensory Centre should put your assumptions at ease: “Nearly all cases of Septo-optic Dysplasia occur by chance. There is no good evidence that the condition runs in families or is caused by prescription or recreational drugs.”

      Society is so quick to judge people and blame them, don’t you think it’s time to open the compassionate part of your heart and realise that as humans it is not our business to judge people we don’t know? Did you know that Marilyn was smart enough to get into Mensa, yet she made all her money from playing dumb? Have you considered that Katie Price is just a persona like Marilyn was?

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      • Amandarose

        Studies in Australia have shown major brain malformations in rats with heavy cocaine use and other studies have shown a link between cocaine use and this defect.
        While it is hard to give a definitive answer the obvious binge cocaine use would be a likely cause. Call a spade a spade. Jordan is no angel.
        Doesn’t mean she isn’t a loving mother or she should put up with such crap.

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      • jasminereid

        Even if that were the case, that doesn’t mean the recreational drugs played no part in his condition. Why are doctors always advising women not to drink or take drugs during pregnancy? For kicks?

        And yes, I do know Marilyn Monroe was very intelligent. But I am almost certain she did not use meth and drink like a sailor whilst pregnant.
        There is a difference between playing dumb for money and being dumb at the risk of hurting your child’s life.

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        • Cathy Crawley

          I’m not saying that anyone should take drugs whilst pregnant. It is irresponsible. But I am saying that this disease is a genetic one, usually passed on by the father. If you are a doctor and can adequately prove that to be wrong I shall eat those words. Then perhaps you could also educate me on my 2 genetic diseases? I’m always willing to learn :)

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    • SuzyQ

      Absolutely agree with you here, Jasmine-reid. It’s hard not to see this as another marketing ploy (was she the celeb that allowed a chocolate bar to sponser her wedding or am I getting her confused?)

      Carers of people with disabilities could use all the advocacy that they could get but I’m unconvinced that she really experiences all the issues that carer face. How many nannies does Harvey have? How many other carers could sell the story of their hardship like this? Can she have holidays? Does she scrape by with a health care card?

      I actually wonder if the gaff that Frankie Boyle was making wasn’t about Harvey but directed the shallow, superficial world of D-grade celebs. What the hell is she famous for anyway? Ummm, the difference between her and Marilyn is that Marilyn always presented a likeable person

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      • SuzyQ

        (Just to clarify:The joke about custody between Jordan and Peter Andre that is. The rape is obviously uncool.)

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      • Anonymous

        I’m a special educator and I work with children with high needs, mainly Autism. While Katie is very lucky to have the support of her mum and nanny, from watching the clips on You Tube Katie showed that she followed and used the behaviour management strategies that seemed to be set-up for her son. One example of this is with the corn chips when she prompted him two more then…. This prompt would have likely taken many weeks and tantrums to establish and parents and carers of children with Autism know you must stick to this rule every time or its back to square one. I think she came across as connected to her son and had a good understanding of his needs. She must spend time with him to do this.

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        • Another Mia

          Thank you for posting this comment. My experience with my daughter lead me to the same conclusion; she is most definitely closely connected with Harvey. Her mother was very clear in explaining that Katie cannot allow herself to be seen by Harvey in the morning before school otherwise he will refuse to get dressed and go to school as he wants to stay home with her. My daughter does *exactly* the same thing.  Unfortunately I cannot afford a nanny to help manage the behaviour and have had to come up with a different solution nevertheless,  I noted many, many more examples in the three parts of the doco of Katie doing the hands-on care and control of Harvey and his behaviours.

          I totally acknowledge she doesn’t have to try to get by with a HCC and Carers’ Pension but she is without a doubt doing the hard daily graft of caring for her son.  Perhaps it is only really obvious to me because of the startlingly similar daily life I lead to that which I viewed in the documentary? xx

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          • Anonymous

            Best wishes to you.

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  44. Petal

    Oh my God, good on you Katie. Good on you for sticking up for your son in such a public and eloquent way. Frankie Boyle – what a disgusting way to be a comedian. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself.

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  45. Neeky78

    If he analysed why he wrote a joke suggesting a 9 year old boy would rape his mother, and why he chose to write it about a disabled boy, he would be ashamed at what it reveals about his true self.

    I’m not overly pc and enjoy irreverence and there are few jokes I deem offensive and that I think shouldn’t be said.
    But even with those, I “get” the joke in them and can appreciate the pun, even if I think the subject or target is wrong.

    But jokes, even inappropriate or offensive ones, are only funny if there is an element of truth in them. Which means Frankie Boyle must believe, unconsciously or consciously, that there must be some truth in the possibility that Harvey would rape his mother.

    Even if Harvey wasn’t disabled, Frankie Boyle’s “joke” about him f***ing his mum is feral.

    If he had said that about her other son Junior, no one would have laughed because it’s not funny or clever. It’s inappropriate, disgusting, paedophillic and has only one purpose – to anger or disgust people. Neither of which comes under the banner of “comedy” or “joke”. It couldn’t even be considered a cheap gag, because there is nothing funny about it at all. Something being shocking or going-too-far, doesn’t automatically make it a joke. It’s just weird and wrong.

    So why didn’t he tell the joke with Junior as the target?

    Because he doesn’t believe there is any truth in the possibility of Junior raping his mother.

    Ergo, the only conclusion you can draw is that Frankie, and the audience members who laughed at the joke, believe the joke to be funny based purely on the unique attribute of Harvey – which is his disability.

    Therefore, Frankie must believe that disabled people are more capable and inclined to rape that non-disabled people.

    That has to be the most ignorant, ridiculously pathetic idea I have ever heard.

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  46. Another Mia

    I have started a comment three times … I keep starting again because I don’t know what to say. Watching her documentary was like watching a video diary of my life with my profoundly disabled daughter … only I have lived it for the past 20 years instead of 9. I simply couldn’t stop the tears …

    Living this life is unbelievably tiring and hearing stories such as these makes me sad to the core. To the previous posters who insinuated Katie deserved this … you are cruel at worst and ill-informed & naive at best. No one, but NO ONE, deserves this life.

    I’m pleased to see the love and care with which Katie looks after Harvey. I’m so pleased she fought so hard on his behalf against that low-life bully “comedian” … for all the good it did in the end. Perhaps her plight will make a small portion of society re-think the way it handles issues such as these.

    And the next time you’re in a supermarket and you see a mum with a child/adult similar to this … don’t stare or frown, just smile and nod … you would be surprised how far an ounce of understanding goes.

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    • MissT

      Mia, you are amazing. I always smile. Always.

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    • Anon for this

      Mia, I know this question is profoundly ignorant but I don’t have anyone else to ask.

      Would you be offended if people approached you to ask about your child disability (particularly when she was younger?) I was out with my niece the other day when we saw a mother with a daughter who was clearly disabled in some way. My niece asked why she was looked that way, but it was genuine curiosity–she wants to know everything about the world around her.

      I know the mother overheard my niece asking. I really wanted to go over and introduce us and get the mother (and daughter) to explain to my niece.

      Is that vastly inappropriate? Offensive? My thought was that they only way to defeat ignorance is to teach people and to talk about it…

      I’d love to know how you would feel, and I am sorry for the ignorance of my question.

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      • Mango

        I am also a mother of a severely disabled child.

        To me, it depends on how I perceive the motivations of the people asking.

        Many times I have been asked as people wait with me in a checkout line, as they stare at my child and try to work out what ‘her problem’ is. When they say things like ‘What’s wrong with your child’, I usually give them short shrift. There’s nothing *wrong* with her. What’s *wrong* is their manners. Why should I give her medical history to a stranger?

        If I am just in a shop, looking, and I can tell a child is curious, I don’t mind at all. They are trying to learn. I usually tell them that my child’s brain doesn’t quite work as it’s supposed to, and that her brain can’t tell her body exactly what to do. Most kids understand it, accept it and that’s it. They are beautiful with it. I did have one occasion where an older child made fun of my child, but I think that says more about his upbringing than anything.

        I have no problem with people I have a relationship with asking about my child.

        Just my $0.02 – I am interested to read Another Mia’s reply.

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        • Anon for this

          Thanks Mango!

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      • Another Mia

        Hello again,

        Yes, my first reaction is to say I don’t mind being asked questions at all however I will qualify that a little with saying, similar to Mango, it does depend somewhat on the motivation. I love it when children ask … it is so much nicer than staring and a wonderful opportunity to educate them – I love watching their little wheels turning as they try to digest everything and begin to understand how lucky they are etc. But, I have had more than one experience where people were being judgmental and unkind.  I had one lady basically say, “Why didn’t they drown children like my daughter at birth the way you would a puppy or kitten that was that congenitally deformed!”  Gosh, I suppose that answer doesn’t help at all does it? I think if you ask gently and with some semblance of empathy – and be prepared that some days we may just be sick to death of talking about it and may hence politely decline to extrapolate – you should get an appropriate answer.  I hope that helps. Mxx

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        • JellyBelly

          Pity we don’t drown morons like you, would’ve been my response to that nasty lady. But I suspect you’re much nicer than me Another Mia!

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      • Mango

        I should add that if someone shows and interest in my child, and talks to her as a person, I am happy to spend time talking to them. I just don’t like my daughter, or me, to be treated like an information booth.

        If people show care and interest, then often times her condition comes up in conversation. I’m happy to share in that case.

        But like Another Mia, sometimes people are too willing to give sometimes incredibly insensitive opinions – about how my child should be shut away, it would have been better if she wasn’t born, about her having no dignity or quality of life. (I would argue that she has all the dignity we ascribe to her, and that it is my responsibility as her parent but also as a citizen to ensure that people with disabilities have a quality of life befitting anyone else: with love, care, safety and realising one’s potential).

        Having said that, I wonder sometimes whether the reason random strangers ask is to reassure themselves that ‘it won’t happen to me’.

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        • Another Mia

          Mango, you are very intuitive to pick up on “it won’t happen to me” under-current. Sadly, I often glean that from a conversation. And I will be honest enough to admit I, too, have at times wished my reality wasn’t what it is …

          I’m not sure about yourself but I have found many times the most intolerant, insensitive and shocking statements come from elderly citizens who grew up in a world where children with disabilities were institutionalised and never spoken of again … heaven forbid one having to acknowledge that such a creature could be genetically linked!

          In general I find the younger generations to be much more accepting and gracious. xxx

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    • kateinlondon

      Hats off to you Mia – I can’t comprehend how draining your life must be sometimes. Every hat I own.

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  47. ab

    What a beautiful mum to her very special boy. Doyle is an dickhead, and channel four should be ashamed. And as for that readers’ comment below stating Harvey is how he is because of Katie’s drug use…massive judgement based on reading trashy magazines! Thank you for posting this story.

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  48. roserusso

    Wow, what a read – Katie Price is a mother who loves her son. Clearly. The way she speaks about him is just beautiful. Anything I read about her in the press following reading this piece will completely change. I’m glad I read this.

    Frankie Boyle is not a comedian – he is an asshole. He should apologise, profusely and donate a large sum of money to an Autistic charity. But nothing he says or does after the comments he made will make up for his so called “humour”.

    What a pathetic individual to say that Katie is frightened of her own disabled son and that he would rape her – because he is black. Boyle, take your disgusting comments somewhere else. Humans are not evil because of their skin colour or sexual preference.

    Yes Katie Price is privileged and she has a nanny and money to help her. But it must be difficult to watch her impaired son not have the same respect as her other children. Just because she’s in the public eye – and her children are photographed, gives NO ONE the right to say such horrible and vile comments about her family.

    I’m glad she wrote this. Frankie Boyle is a fucking imbecile.

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  49. KatLizzy

    Katie Price is clearly a caring, loving mother and has come across as a reasonable intelligent woman and savvy business person. Why, oh, why does she then ruin her reputation time after time with the white (or fake tan organge) trailer trash antics and outifits she insists on carrying on with?

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    • Petal

      Maybe it’s a release?

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  50. MissT

    I’ve had people accuse me of being too defensive of celebrities but this story is a perfect example of why I am. They are people. They have so much more to them than we see. Unless you know them personally, on a deep level, you have no right to judge them.

    Bravo, Katie, I will stand with you.

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    • kateinlondon

      I’m not sure about this one Miss-T. Maybe for some famous actors, etc but given that Katie Price has had four autobiographies, weekly columns, dozens of TV shows following her life, her children, her marriages, her breakups, numerous self-penned articles, commenting on twitter about her life etc – do you not think that she is actually holding out her life to us? And many people on here are choosing to judge her as a good mother of her son. Why do we not have the right to judge someone who is putting their LIFE on TV, asking us to comment on it?

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      • dfordezi

        Kate. I will now judge you. You don’t get it. It’s about Harvey, not Katie. She is big enough and ugly enough to defend herself, but Harvey is not, and never will be. You have every right to your considered opinion of her, however Harvey needs us all to be on his side, or are you saying that the joke is ok because she put him in the public eye (again not his decision)? She may even be using this as further publicity/money making exercise, but we still should be outraged at what was said about a beautiful defenseless young boy. :)

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        • kateinlondon

          actually – i beg to defend myself (but feel free to judge, that’s what comments are here for!). As I said in my comments above – I think the jokes were totally indefensible and I think it is terrific that Katie is persuing Frankie Boyle. It is more the comments about us not being able to judge this ‘inspiring’ woman that irk me. But I do take your point.

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          • MissT

            Here (Aus) we’re not really aware of her autobiographies, TV shows, etc. In all honesty I was not aware she had so many autobiographies. But even then I would argue that autobiographies should always be taken with a grain of salt (my opinion of me and the events that have happened to me may be very different to reality) and “reality” TV shows are always edited to show a certain perspective. But I take your point, perhaps Katie is a little more able to be judged than those who hide away. Perhaps I’m going too far the other way in my opinion that we never have any right to judge others. But my frustration on people judging celebrities remains, all the same.

            For the record, I don’t think in any way you were defending the comedian or condoning what he did, I didn’t get that from your comment at all – you were challenging my perspective.

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    • Anonymous

      Whether anyone has the right to judge (but, come on, everyone gets judged every millisecond of the day – and I’m sure Mia can attest to that), when you pimp yourself out to the media like one Katie Price, it can hardly be unexpected.

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