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5 people on the 'money chat' they had before they got engaged or married.

Thanks to our brand partner, Financial Planning Association of Australia

There’s no doubt prenups have a bit of a scary connotation. We often hear about them in the context of big high-profile divorces, like that of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos and his wife of 25 years, MacKenzie Bezos. Planning for the worst time of our lives when we’re often at one of the best can also often leave us feeling conflicted.

But the reality is, money is the number one cause of divorce in Australia, according to Relationships Australia. And ignoring the ‘money chat’ only makes it worse, with two out of three couples who avoid talking about money arguing about it instead.

Prenups aren’t for everyone. But figuring out how to talk about money early on in your relationship can help you avoid the need for it too.

Mamamia spoke to five people who are engaged or married about how they organised their finances with their partners before their wedding and whether they considered a prenup or a different financial agreement.

Here’s what they had to say:

Janine

“My partner and I combined our bank accounts as it was the best way to save for a property and get the best interest on our savings.

“We have always said that if anything happens between us we will go 50/50 – we don’t have that in an official document but we both know each other and know we would keep that true no matter what – no nasties.

“It also helps that neither of us will inherit billions, so didn’t need to worry about a prenup.”

Katie

"My partner and I have our own accounts as well as an extra joint account as we're saving for a property. We both deposit the same amount each week/month so it's super clean and easy (in case I decide to pursue Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson!)."

Adam

"On the flip side, my partner and I keep our savings separate but have a joint account for holidays and clearly delineate who pays for what for each month so it evens out. We contribute the same amount to the mortgage each month.

"We are not married, but in a long-term de facto relationship - it's been our choice not to get married because we'd rather use that money towards our mortgage and avoid the expensive costs of a wedding!"

Briony

"We get paid into our personal accounts (and each have our own personal savings) and then each transfer money into a joint account that is used for rent, joint savings for property, food and going out.

"Although we totally trust each other, I like having a personal account. It's nice if we want to buy gifts for each other or use the money to go on a girls trip or make an expensive purchase."

Justine

"Before my husband and I got married we would split all bills 50/50 and go grocery shopping together but pay separately. After our wedding, we began saving for a house and the split was less strict. We kept separate savings accounts while saving for the deposit together.

"We would talk about how much we had collectively saved, and it was assumed he would be able to save more than me as he earned more and had less expenses as a man - I’m quite high maintenance when it comes to hair and beauty-related expenses!

"Once we bought the house and signed the mortgage, we opened joint bank accounts and share the credit card. Now everything is mashed together, especially since I’m on maternity leave. This process worked great for us and I wouldn’t change a thing."

So if it's not a prenup...what is it?

If you're like any of the people we spoke to, you may also prefer not to formalise your finances under the banner of a scary-sounding "prenup".

For a more positive spin, you might want to think about creating a "Pronup", which sets out a plan for a shared vision around your finances.

A Pronuptial Agreement is a written financial plan that you can put in place with your partner to set out your financial future together, with a Certified Financial Planner (CFP®) professional.

"It’s about taking the time to discuss your goals for the future and creating a plan so your money can fund your individual and joint dreams," says Dante De Gori, CFP® professional and CEO of the Financial Planning Association of Australia.

"A Pronup is right for every couple, regardless of whether you're de facto or married, same-sex or mixed-gender, young or advanced in years. It's a great way to talk openly about money and life goals with your partner with the support of a professional trained in helping you get there."

Come on, how different is it to a prenup?

A “Pronup” is not the same as a prenup or postnup.

"A prenup is a legally binding financial agreement between two people who are getting married," says De Gori.

"It records what assets and debts each person brings into the relationship and states what will happen if you separate or get divorced and details how your finances will be divided."

That's why we all get freaked out by it, because it's essentially a defence mechanism pre-empting future divorce or separation.

A Pronup is more of a proactive plan a couple can make together to help build their financial situation for the long term. It's not a legally binding contract, but a mutual agreement. It's a good way to keep your financial goals on track.

"It’s an opportunity to get on the same page with your finances, reiterates your commitment to your shared dreams, and creates pathways to achieve individual goals such as starting your own business or funding future education if you decide to have kids. It will make your money work harder to unlock your long and short-term goals," says De Gori.

"A Pronup is also a powerful way to take an active role in your household finances, enables you to ask the silly questions, dares you to dream about that overseas holiday or making a house you long for a home, and empowers you with the knowledge of financial literacy."

That could make for some interesting conversations, but they're worth having earlier than later.

Have you and your partner thought about a prenup, Pronup or something else? Tell us in the comments section below.

To find out more about a Pronup, head to the Money&Life website. That's where you’ll find three useful articles and a free eBook, ‘Pronup: A Plan for Staying Together', that offers tips for having money conversations in your relationship and how to get a Pronup with a CFP professional.

This content was brought to you with thanks by our brand partner, Financial Planning Association of Australia. 

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Jess 5 years ago

My (now) husband and I bought a house together when we’d been together less than a year. At the time we were both acutely aware that it was early and considered a prenup, but it was $1500 minimum, so we decided on an personally agreed plan instead.
I (the female) had a higher salary, and also had the deposit saved, so we decided that if it didn’t work out, we would sell the property, I’d take my deposit and we’d split the profit 60/40 my way as I was putting in a higher proportion of the repayments.

10 years on, we never needed that contingency plan. But if we split now, it would be about what is the most equitable situation, with the kids needs at the absolute forefront.


Grumpier monster 5 years ago

How does financial abuse start?

I imagine for some people it starts after they get married and agree to keep some of their own wages in their own account to spend how they like.

This is a fair and reasonable system when both earn similar amounts of money. However, if one stops earning money then they become financially dependent. Implicitly, they have to ask their partner to pay all the expenses for both of them. Most people accept that they don't want their partner to go hungry or to kick them out because they can't pay their share of the rent/mortgage. However, it gets trickier when it comes to discretionary spending. The primary breadwinner will also be asked to pay for their partner's clothes, hobbies, grooming, etc. The primary breadwinner's wage has not increased to cover their new financial responsibilities. It all comes out of their discretionary income and they start feeling resentful and suspicious that they earn all the money, and spend relatively little of it.

Now put in reality. Women are the most likely to reduce their income and future earning capacity by having children and/or taking on extra caring responsibilities. Women are also most likely to be financially abused.

For example, some men genuinely believe that it's fair that they give half their wages to their dependent spouse: she pays all the bills with her half, whilst he spends his on his normal recreational activities. Sometimes the split is 60:40 or 70:30, but whatever the split only she is required to pay the bills with her portion. Soon she's in the unenviable position of having to beg or explain why she needs extra money at Christmas and the start of the school year.

I suggest married couples start as they mean to continue. For better, for worse, in sickness and in health, the wages are pooled and both have equal access and responsibility for spending it for the benefit of the household. There is little 'my' money, and lots of 'our' money. Shared financial priorities reduce the conflict, but avoiding conflict by maintaining your own account doesn't help in the long term.

In short, I think it's a bit sad if you can't trust your partner financially. If both parties don't want to pool the money, then maybe there's a problem.

Josey 5 years ago

I totally agree. Far too often when I see couples who are having relationship problems, or people who have just come out of a relationship split, the phrase 'my money' shows up. And yes, it's usually the male partner, since more often than not, the female partner has stopped paid work to care for children, or is working reduced hours.

When faced with this, I often ask that partner to calculate how much it would cost them if they had to pay someone to care for their children and house every week. Sometimes we calculate it. It makes a mockery of the phrase 'my money'.