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FIRST POKIES STUDY REVEALS POOR CHARITY STATUS

In New South Wales alone, poker machines raked in almost $5 billion for the 2010-11 financial year. That’s a little more than $1000 per adult.

In Victoria, gamblers lost $2.6 billion on machines.

Yet in each state, only around $60 million was donated to community organisations and charities. That’s 1.3 per cent and 2.4 per cent of losses respectively.

The Monash University study found:

”Since poker machine losses are very large … the amounts expended on community benefit purposes appear to be large themselves. But as a proportion of losses such claims are minimal,” the research found.

”Poker machines thus provide an extremely inefficient and high cost method for funding community sporting and charitable activities.”

The research was commissioned by UnitingCare Australia.

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Sperm being prepared for IVF treatment

SPERM DONOR CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO  FIND THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTER

Which might offer some peace of mind to those worried about ‘unintentional incest’. The program, known as Donor SibLinks, would release basic details such as gender, month and year of birth and provide them on a database if half-siblings request information.

Despite research showing that the chances of such an encounter are infinitely small, IVF Australia’s leading professor, Peter Illingworth, said the issue remained a serious concern for parents.

Prof Illingworth said: “Concern among donor sperm parents is (that) their child might in the future unknowingly meet a half-sibling and as a result of that, get into an incestuous relationship.

“The risk of this is extraordinarily low, however, but it is something that concerns parents a great deal.”

INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS WARN GOVERNMENT ON FUNDING

It was the schools funding review that was meant to end them all. The Australian Government released the Gonski review of school funding earlier this year which recommended a base rate of funding per student with extra loadings added on top for factors like disabilities, low socio-economic backgrounds and Indigenous descent.

But the NSW Association of Independent Schools has warned the Australian Government it would be forced to increase fees under the model and some schools may close.

”At this stage the independent schools sector in NSW is not withdrawing its support for funding reform as it does not believe this result was the intent of the review or of the government,” Dr Newcombe said.

”However, the sector … is calling on the Australian government to give certainty to parents and independent schools by stating that funding to schools will not be reduced in real terms.”

The Government has always insisted no school will lose funding based on current terms. It has so far not committed to any of the recommendations and is holding a ‘listening tour’ around the country to measure feedback.

- Here’s a closer look at what the Gonski Review recommended.

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Former Treasurer Peter Costello introduced the baby bonus, famously saying families should have one child each for mum and dad and one for the country.

SHOULD THE BABY BONUS BE DOUBLED TO $10,000?

The National Party wants Coalition leader Tony Abbott to double the baby bonus to $10,000 for stay-at-home mums, a move the Gillard Government has said would cost the budget $3 billion over the next three years.

“It’s an incredible sacrifice for women to stay at home. You can see it in their superannuation and everything else,” Senator Barnaby Joyce said.

“We want to make sure people don’t lose their house. Because everything is based on two incomes these days. All policies have a cost. But it’s a substantial sacrifice for people not to go to work.”

Nationals leader Warren Truss stressed the plan to double the baby bonus was a policy of the Nationals rather than the Coalition and had not been endorsed by Mr Abbott.

“There were certain concerns that the proposal did provide very substantial assistance to some and not to others,” he said.

“That issue was raised by some. But it is a workplace issue not a welfare payment. That’s the thinking to encourage married women to stay in the workforce.”

MEANWHILE, Insurance Australia Group (IAG) has announced women returning from maternity leave in its organisation would be paid double wages for six weeks as an incentive to get them back into the workforce. That’s on top of the 14 weeks’ of standard pay the company would dish out for the maternity leave itself.

Combined with the Australian Government’s own 18 week scheme, well, it’s a windfall for working mothers that has been hailed as a ‘major advance’ in workplace management.

IAG chief executive Mike Wilkins said he wanted to encourage mums to return to work. “We want people who can multitask inside the organisation – and I think mums are the ultimate multitaskers,” he said.

LOGIES, LOGIES, LOGIES

It was the night which surprised a few. Hamish Blake took the major Gold Logie award while the ABC walked away with eight statues while Channel Nine took six and Channel Seven took five. Adam Hills won the silver Logie for most popular presenter for Spicks and Specks, Hugh Sheridan won most popular actor and more.

We’ll have a full wrap this morning, so check back on the Logies post.

If you missed all the spectacle of the red carpet and celebrity behind the scenes shots, this enormous gallery might do the trick:

Georgie Gardner

100 YEARS SINCE TITANIC SANK

The sinking of the Titanic by an iceberg in the Atlantic was remembered at the weekend, 100 years to the day since she went under. 1500 people died.

IS 20,000 CHICKENS PER HECTARE REALLY FREE RANGE?

Well, that’s what the Australian Egg Corporation (AEC) thinks. The industry body has just revised voluntary guidelines for its farmers to allow for as many as 20,000 birds per hectare and still be called ‘free range’. The current standard, drafted in 2001, recommends 1500 birds in the same space. Genuine free range farmers (750 birds per hectare or less) say the standard is dangerously misleading. Managing director of the AEC James Kellaway said prices would rise if suppliers were expected to keep fewer birds per hectare and that this would lead to Australians importing shell eggs from countries with lower animal welfare standards.

PM WILL MISS OLYMPICS, FUNDRAISING DINNER

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Julia Gillard with members of the Special Olympics team last year

But she’s got a good reason. Prime Minister Julia Gillard will be attending the G20 summit and the United Nations Sustainable Development Conference when the PM’s Olympic Games fundraising dinner is held in June. She’s sending Sports Minister Kate Lundy in her place, but that didn’t stop Australia’s Games chief John Coates having a go.

”I thought London would be an absolute must for Julia, so I’m disappointed,” Coates told The Sun-Herald. ”It’s a disappointment to us. It will be a disappointment to our team.”

While he said the G20 summit was a ‘valid reason’ to miss the dinner he said he phoned Ms Lundy’s office and asked for an apology ‘before you read about this’.

Prime Ministers have missed the Olympic Games in the past.

- Meanwhile, Australian Olympic swimming champion Murray Rose has passed away after a battle with leukaemia. He was 73.

TALIBAN RAID FREES 400 PRISONERS

Taliban insurgents armed with semi-automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades stormed a Pakistan prison in the city of Bannu, near the Afghanistan border, and freed 400 prisoners. 20 of them were described as ‘very dangerous’. All would be expected to rejoin the fight against allied forces and the Afghanistan government.

In Kabul, militants launched a series of coordinated attacks on the Afghanistan parliament and international embassies in the largest attack this year.

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  1. Anon

    If I worked at IAG and chose to voluntarily take 3 months off work to benefit myself and my family, or perhaps do a volunteer project, or care for an ill loved one, would they pay me double my wage when I returned? Would they pay me to take time off to do those things?

    Surely these are all worthy reasons to take some time off yet there is no financial benefit for people in those situations, why are mothers treated different;y?

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    • An Idle Dad

      It’s simple risk management. Your return is pretty much guarenteed, there’s no need for a business to try harder to keep you.

      Businesses recognise they lose a disproportionate number of skilled women when those women take maternity leave, and they want to ensure that their business retains the best.

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  2. gee jen

    I already feel guilty for the amount of maternity allowance i get. I guess I am in a very lucky position

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  3. Bunneh

    I don’t understand why people are making such flippant, silly remarks about “Oh poor private schools will have to close.”

    They will not close. They will raise their fees even higher and the gap between the haves and have-nots will be widened even further. Our education system will become more and more like the American model where only the super-wealthy will receive a private education (let’s face it, at the moment it’s upper-middle class in Aus doing that) and the “privilege” that comes with it will become even more insular (ie. job interviews at top firms where the first thing the boss says is “Oh, you went to _____. I went to _____. You’ll fit in just fine”*).

    *Actual thing said to me at a job interview.

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    • Lulu

      Bunneh, those same schools have already raised their fees astronomically in the period when their government funding has also increased.

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  4. B

    Wow- I feel so sorry for those private schools that may have to close their doors instead of opting to have one less concert hall…. industrial science lab…. pool etc. etc…

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    • Anon

      Oh my god, you are so funny. Such original, witty observations. I’m afraid i’m reading this at work and i can’t stop laughing.

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  5. Bradley

    God ! I hope that cuts in public funding don’t force private schools to close.

    Where will Labor politicians and wealthy left wingers send their children ?

    Imagine having to mix with the kidlettes of the great unwashed !

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    • Lil

      More importantly, how will the overburdened public school sector cope with the influx of more children? I don’t think people really understand how much private schools bolster the system for everyone.

      Further, I believe that as parents we have the right to choose schools based on religious and or other ideologies. If I am willing yo pay for this option why should I receive less government support than those families who access free education?

      Imagine if there were no private hospitals. How would our health system cope with the added number of patients requiring care. Everyone would be disadvantaged.

      I pay my taxes like everyone else but I also choose to pay for my kids education and healthcare. Why should I be disadvantaged for helping to relieve the burden on the public purse?

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      • public school supporter

        I agree. My husband and I are both proud graduates of public schools and would have happily chosen that path for our own children. Problem being our local public school has 8 kindergarten classes (which goes up and down each year) and a lot of the classes are in demountables. The school is bursting at the seams. Every family I know who has sent their children there who have been able to afford to have pulled them out within the first 2 years. Their main complaints are overcrowding, lack of reources and high staff turnover. And this is in an affluent area. My friends who dont have the option to pull their kids out are very disappointed and saving like mad to be able to send them to private high schools.
        Now imagine if the fees at these private schools became prohibitive to many families and their children had to fall back into the public system, a system that is already not coping. It would be chaos. As much as people resent paying tax for an education system that they consider luxurious the fact that these kids arent in the public system is relieving the stress on the people who are using it.

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    • An Idle Dad

      I love it Brad – at least some days I’m a no-nothing urbun elitist lefty, but on other days you consider me the great unwashed!

      I guess this means we can share a beer when we’re out (watchnig the cricket or something), but when you come over for dinner, it’s a wine-only afair. And if I serve chicken – it’ll be chardonay! I’m cool with that.

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      • Bradley

        ID….it would always be a pleasure to share a bevie with you.

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  6. Jen

    Hi Mamamia, has the site format changed this morning?

    I can’t read either the articles or the comments easily on my mobile anymore – font is small and no longer wraparound style. So I have to scroll left and right to read anything.

    Help!, thanks :)

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    • Rick Morton

      We’ve jammed the mobile site while it gets a complete re-work, because there have been a few problems. So you’ll be seeing the web-only view for the time being but it’s all for the greater good because when we come back, the mobile site will zing with fair amounts of awesome. Hang tight!

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      • K8e.

        Yaaay, as it used to be difficult enough!

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      • Zelicat

        Shit. I owe mr cat an apologie – he updated my phone last night, and I was blaming him for the new format.

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  7. rainbow

    i am sure if money is taken away from private school it will be those top tier schools who can well afford to take less form the public purse. there are many private schools that won’t be affected, just those that can afford to employ their own barista etc etc.

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    • Anon

      Oh dear, firstly, those ‘top tier’ schools don’t actually have their own barista or polo fields and secondly they are full of the children of Labor’s elite. Anyone who can afford to get their children out of the public system does and many make enormous sacrifices to do so – first world sacrifices, admittedly, but it’s not much fun working fourteen hours a day with three days off a year.

      If Labor wants to rework the funding why don’t they start making everyone contribute to their child’s education? Why should public schools be so heavily funded? There are plenty of BMWs doing the drop off at state schools.

      Let’s just clarify something about the ‘top tier’ schools and their facilities. These schools have histories of over 150 years. During that time they have been a second home to tens of thousands of boarding families. These families and students have a fondness for the school and happily give financial donations as a way of ‘giving back’ to a place that holds a place in their hearts. Some give a little, some die without families and give their entire estates. Over the course of more than a century, this adds up to build a place that is rich not only in resources, but, more importantly, in a community sense.

      This, in turn, gives opportunities to children from underprivileged and Indigenous backgrounds that they would otherwise not have had.

      The children who attend these schools are no different from any other. They still have sicknesses, tragedies, family break ups, financial collapse. They mix with children from every corner of the globe and every socio-economic background. There are Asian Princes and Aboriginal children. There are Autistic and wheelchair bound, kids with brain tumors and drug addicted parents who are in care and there are future Olympians and leaders.

      I wonder how many Labor politicians, unionists and journalists who are so quick to divide the rich and poor have their children in private schools?

      On the other hand, people leave the free public system and don’t look back – or forward.

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      • Lulu

        “secondly they are full of the children of Labor’s elite”

        You say that as if they’re not also full of the children of Liberal elite.

        “The children who attend these schools are no different from any other.”

        So children from state schools also have detailed conversations on the tram about the skis they got for Christmas, and their skiing holidays? Or they’re also driven to school in a Porsche SUV? With a ‘my family’ sticker which includes not just a dog but also a pony?

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        • Lu

          I know families who have chosen the free state system for their kids high school education so they can still afford their annual skiing holiday in Aspen.

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          • Miss

            I’m a public school teacher and I teach many children from families who can’t afford to give them lunch. They certainly can’t afford a ski holiday.

            That’s not to say I believe that independent schools should receive some funding, I just think that we need to be realistic – the state and the commonwealth fund schools that discriminate against students from disadvantaged backgrounds. I know – I went to one! It’s a complicated topic that flares tempers, but it’s an important one…

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        • No e in Tracy

          So much judgement and stereotyping. I can’t tell you how offended I am by your pony comment. My son rides, show jumping is his sport and he loves his horse with all his heart. He takes care of her himself and has learned so much through his relationship with her. He has also gained a lot of self confidence from his achievements. Please don’t denigrate such a wonderful sport by implying that people who have ponies are spoiled little rich kids. You have to be really brave and talented to successfully compete in this sport – it takes a lot of hard work and effort, not money.

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          • Lulu

            To explain the context, I live in the middle of Melbourne’s private school belt, & owning a house in this area, never mind a pony as well, requires quite a bit of money. And I don’t think all of these kids are spoilt brats – it’s just that with a great deal of money & privilege behind them (as is often the case), they live in a very very different world to most other kids.

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            • Lu

              Material wealth doesnt always equate to happiness though. I have a friend who teaches in a private school in Sydney that would be labelled exclusive because of the fees. She finds it really sad at times, some of her students have very unhappy lives. Most of their problems stem from their parents having too many choices, a luxury that wealth provides. Kids can often go weeks without seeing their parents because they are away or not see them through the week at all because they work and socialise so much. I have another friend who works in a boarding school and it has a lot of kids whose families live nearby but who are too busy or have too many personal problems to be able to deal with their own children. Just because a child has a wealthy family doesnt always mean their life is golden. I dont begrudge these kids a pony if it makes them happy and gives them some love. :)

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      • rainbow

        oh dear indeed

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  8. silentlyscreaming

    Instead of doubling the baby bonus, I’d rather see them put the money towards making childcare more affordable. That way SAHMs who wanted to re-enter the workforce may actually have a chance to do so.

    I was made redundant after baby #1 and, long story short, now have 2 children and a 4+ year gap on my resume. Even if I were to somehow get a job now, full-time daycare for 2 children (with childcare benefit) would leave us with less than what we get in government assistance, and part-time is no better. I’d love to be working again, but it’s proving incredibly difficult while daycare costs are so high. Perhaps they can think about putting some of the proposed $3 billion towards more practical uses than paying someone $10k to have a baby.

    Saying that though, perhaps I’m just annoyed that it would all come in too late for us to claim for #3 in November! ;)

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    • Bradley

      I couldn’t agree with you more. What you say makes perfect sense.

      Well said.

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    • Kris2040

      I’ve been thinking about this too. I’ve suggested a few times (here and elsewhere) if the Early Years is so important, fund long day care and pre-schools like primary schools. After asking about how JET is allocated, I was thinking – surely it would be easier and more economical to apply the different amounts of money given as rebates to just funding more centres?

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  9. jb expat

    I love what IAG is doing (I really do) …but one of my worries is that if this becomes the standard (by that, I mean an unlegislated standard – so it would be an industry benchmark), is that companies will think twice about hiring women of childbearing age or even young women whose years of having children are somewhere in the future as it will cost them so much. Maybe these companies would only hire a token number of women? IAG is saying the right things – about skill sets and multi tasking…but I wonder… Again, I love this idea, but I also wonder where it would lead.

    And about the chicken – I think that unless you buy organic (certified organic by one of the 2 main/respected organic certifying orgs), you really can’t count on what these unregulated terms mean.

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  10. Laws for Clouds

    I had my first child when the bonus was still $800, then moved overseas for the next two. On my return I’ve discovered a whole industry has sprung up around babies. When I had my first there were two baby goods speciality store in SA. Now there’s dozens. Everyone has designer push chairs, matching nursery furniture and buy their car seats instead of renting them.

    Now, babies don’t need all this stuff, but I suspect it’s great for the economy, which is probably why the government still endorses it (and for votes).

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  11. Lu

    In theory I think the baby bonus idea is a way of trying to have equality with all mothers and their choices. At the moment working mothers have the trump card with financial assistance and stay at home mums have the joker. In reality though I cant see it working because assisting stay at home mums, who many just dismiss as rich or lazy, isnt really a vote buyer. Which is sad because that attitude shows what little idea most people have about being a fulltime parent long term. I think its disappointing because currently the paid maternity leaves schemes are all about encouraging a woman whose baby is only 18 weeks old back to work and that honestly is not in the childs best interest.
    How fantastic was The Voice????

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    • Rick Morton

      I REALLY liked the Voice. I was definitely not expecting to.

      Klarise was it? Her voice was phenomenal. She was 19 but had the vocals of a 40-year-old soul singer. Incredible.

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      • Lu

        She game me goosebumps

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      • Cathy Crawley

        I loved it too! But then I watched the Logies and Seal tanked and I was like “he’s the benchmark for live performances?” Should have just watched Foxtel so I wasn’t judgemental.

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      • lucindainthesky

        I LOVED The Voice too. Karise was incredible… there was a lot of talent though, I was impressed. Apparently the show was the highest rating reality show debut in Australian TV history! That’s quite impressive!

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    • crystalanne83

      I got totally distracted by the Voice! So fun! I get totally mesmerised watching Delta and I have no idea why! BUT:

      I got really annoyed at how ‘it’s not about looks’ then, when they turned around, the pretty girls were totally fawned over! Worse still was the country signer who no one turned for. Then when they all saw her, they regretted it becasue she was really pretty. Anyone else noticed this happening?

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      • gee jen

        yep annoyed me too

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      • Lu

        But thats the sad reality of the music industry. Very few are both talented and gorgeous. Most have average voices that dont sound too good live but they look good or have family connections.

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  12. oopsyboops

    I don’t think doubling the baby bonus is the best idea (although personally wouldn’t it be great!). I don’t see it as feasible – how would you differentiate between different mothers personal reasons for staying at home. However, I’ve said this once before, what would be of help would be assistance with the hecs debt. Yes it doesn’t have to be paid while one isn’t earning an income, however it increases by the cpi. So for me, it has increased $500/600 every year for the last 3 years. By the time I do reenter the workforce, it would have added an extra few thousand onto my hecs debt. I am a health professional so I paid the highest hecs levy but as a health professional, I also don’t earn very much, therefore I pay back the least amount. It stings that I feel trapped by this, that for the rest of my life I will be paying an extra 4% or thereabouts in my tax. I don’t begrudge paying the hecs debt, but right now it is demoralising. It would be in my best interests to never earn enough to start repaying it again, and just carry it for life. Which is ridiculous.

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    • HECS Debtee

      I hear you about the HECS/HELP debt! I too feel trapped, I am 4 years out of uni and not even earning enough to have HECS repayments taken out of my salary. I’d love to be voluntarily paying some back but I’m trying to save a housing desposit at the same time (so I can stop paying overpriced rent) so it’s hard, and I know the small CPI increases I get as ‘pay rises’ (I’ve never had a pay rise greater than CPI over my two jobs) will be eaten up by HECS so it feels like I’ll never see a benefit in my take home pay despite shelling out tens of thousands for a uni degree – I can’t say I’d do it again if I could go back

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      • oopsyboops

        I would always choose study, I think it is so important (especially for the work I do) no matter what the cost is. But I do think there needs to be a bit of recognition of this issue. If we are all about equality for women, then perhaps looking at how women fare after raising children vs men who don’t take that time off would be good. It doesn’t seem fair that my debt will be thousands of dollars more simply because I choose to stay at home and raise my children. (which isn’t really a choice as the childcare fees would equal my pay).

        And pay rises? what is that? lol. Hardly ever see those.

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  13. Becca

    I’m having the return to work dilemma now as I head back very soon. Full-time childcare is going to cost us most of my income and we aren’t eligible for the child care benefit but I can’t not earn any income. The price we pay for wanting to pay off our own property! I feel sick thinking about my little boy being in child care all day every day. It’s either that or sell our house and I’ll work part time or at night until our boy is a bit older which is looking like the option we are going with.

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  14. Amy

    I don’t understand why we can’t adopt the Swedish maternity model – full year of pay for new mums…so whatever you earns before you got pregnant is what you get after. It encourages women to build their career and have established skills and income first, and limits those who have babies just for the money…and those people are out there! I know a women who had her 7th child rather than getting a job once her youngest started school because she would benefit more financially that way…the family was broke as it was but they couldn’t see past baby bonus and benefits. Poor bloody kid.
    And the free range thing is so bad! Huge difference between 20,000 and 750! Who gets to ok these things???

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    • lucindainthesky

      From a social justice perspective, I disagree with the idea of a government paying new mothers what they were being paid while working when they are on maternity leave. To me there is nothing fair about one mother on 150K getting a huge income and continuing to live comfortable and wealthy lifestyle, probably learning a few extra skills on the side while shes at home, while another mother who was struggling and scraping by before continues to get the same wage that allows her to continue to struggle even more with a child added to the equation. I believe it should be one decent payment for all, and if you want to maintain the lifestyle you had before then go back to work sooner. There are better places for money to go than lining the pockets of upper class families who just don’t want to go without.

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      • OssieLeo

        I don’t understand your comment.. what do you mean social justice. This woman who earns $150,000 works very hard and has adjusted to a certain way of life as well. why is it a negetive that she earns that much? If a woman is struggling as it is without an extra child, isn’t it her responsibility? Why is there a view that people deserve things they did not work hard for?

        I think that money should go to support parents with disabled children who MUST stay at home with their children and assistance is so very limited and hard to get.
        Maybe some of this money should go to enforcing parents who don’t pay maintenance for their children and still are able to go about their lives. I work full time and am a single mother and have not had a cent from my boys father for the past 5+ years yet I pay for my daughter who lives with her dad (as I should )

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        • lucindainthesky

          social justice refers to the basic principle of equality. I wasn’t saying there is anything negative about being a high income earner, I was pointing out that if you reward those same high income earners with the same wage on a paid maternity scheme that is government funded, that the gap between rich and poor will just get wider and wider. There is no need for high income earners to maintain an exuberant lifestyle while on maternity leave at the expense of other people who need the assistance more. People just need to plan for their maternity leave if they can, but everyone should have access to the same amount of government assistance for maternity leave. For many people in lower paying jobs it has nothing to do with not working hard, it is often to do with lack of opportunity and money in the first place. We shouldn’t disadvantage those people further by giving more to people who don’t really need it. And I agree 100% with more funding for families of and individuals with disabilities – this area is terribly underfunded on all fronts, including schools where children require significant support.

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        • Anon

          I wish people would stop equating income with effort. I am lucky enough to earn a high income but do not fool myself that it is simply that I worked harder for it. Salaries are not necessarily a fair representation of the work that we do, the years that we spent studying and the cost we incurred in order to do so, the physical/emotional/mental taxing elements of our job (such as dealing with bodily fluids – e.g. nurses, sustained physical labour – e.g. labourers, spending a large proportion of our role facing traumatic situations – e.g. police and ambos) and the contribution that the role makes to society (e.g. childcare workers and educators vs. investment bankers).

          Yes, many people choose to join these vocations and professions knowing full well the nastier or less alluring parts of the job and they do it out of a sense of vocation. Of course, they are free to leave the profession/vocation. But many of them stay and will face different levels of financial pressures when raising a family by doing so.

          I applaud these people for making a genuine choice to contribute to society at the expense of their own income because, if they didn’t, we as a society would be faced with less supply in key worker roles which would ultimately drive salaries up, in order to maintain essential key services. And because these are primarily public sector or service-driven roles, we would ultimately foot the bill, either in higher public sector salaries, or paying a builder 20% more because the only way he can find labourers is to pay significantly more.

          Through a combination of hard work, luck and the fortune of having intrinsic skills that allow me to perform well in a high paying occupation, I have a large earning potential. I don’t think that this merits the government paying me more through maternity leave than they would someone else who may have studied for years (I didn’t even go to university), who contributes significantly to society through their work outputs and yet has ended up (perhaps through circumstance, perhaps through choice) in a position that is significantly less paying.

          Agree completely though with the comments in your second paragraph – we need to better enforce child maintenance payments and parents of disabled children need much better support (financial and otherwise).

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    • loves2bake

      I think that sounds great for the mums who go back to work after the year, but what about those that become full-time carers until their babies go to school? Or those who don’t have long stretches between babies (I fell pregnant with number two while still breastfeeding – if I had gone back to work it would have been three months before I had my next one). It’s hard finding a balance in terms of how to support mums who stay at home (for whatever length of time), and how this can be done for those that are in and out of the workplace, and those that decide to stay out until they can return permanently. One of the biggest things that we need to overcome is this idea that SAHM aren’t working – I think that is the biggest hurdle we face because it influences the negative attitudes of so many people – we simply are not valued at all.

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      • Lu

        Making preschool fees eligibile for the childcare benefit would also help. We paid preschool fees for 8 years and couldnt claim anything because I am a stay at home mum. Parents whose children attend preschool programs at a long day care centres can claim the childcare benefit.

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      • rainbow

        BRILLIANT comment. there is no such thing as a non-working mother.

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      • Amy

        Good question!!! I have friends who live there so I must ask what happens in those situations. I know the childcare system is awesome over there, so pretty much most kids go to daycare from a young age. But I am not sure what happens with mums who don’t go back to work between kids.

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  15. thegirl

    I’m not sure that the item about the the Baby Bonus is quite right.

    The Nationals don’t want it doubled (according to ABC News).

    “Senator Joyce has disputed News Limited newspaper reports he is pushing Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott to make an election commitment to double the bonus to $10,000.
    He says the plan to boost the payment was something the Nationals floated before the last election, but he is not in favour of it.
    “I can assure you I don’t believe in doubling the baby bonus. I think that would be a ludicrous idea,” Mr Joyce said.

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    • thegirl

      I meant to add that it seems like Barnaby has spoken without really knowing what he was talking about and then had to backtrack

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      • Kris2040

        Just for something new and different?

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        • thegirl

          Ha ha – yes. It’s a bit scary that Tony Abbot once had Barnaby as shadow finance minister!

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    • Rick Morton

      I see that, this morning. Who to believe? Samantha Maiden (the journo who wrote the original story) is rarely wrong … might go see what she’s saying on Twitter!

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      • thegirl

        I haven’t really followed it Rick but I think Sam’s story is from early Sunday morning and was correct at the time she wrote it but then since then the Nationals have changed their position (or Barnaby got their position wrong)

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  16. lucindainthesky

    Instead of encouraging people who don’t want to work to have baby after baby and making life even more cushy for middle class people, the coalition should think about assisting Australians a little bit more to be able to become more qualified. Apparently we have a skills shortage and have to import skilled people, yet noone can bloody afford to live on a $250/week Austudy payment you fools. We wouldn’t be so concerned about the loss of skills of mothers on maternity leave if more people were able to get those skills. How about a $10,000 study bonus? And what about the pensioners living on $300 per week? Where is their $10,000 bonus for spending their lives working hard? Or do we not care about them anymore because they are out of the workforce? What about spending the 3 billion dollars on health care or aged care, or better resourcing schools? The coalition really piss me off with their proposed policies designed to do nothing but win a few votes.

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    • Kris2040

      That is a bit too logical for either side, Lucinda. As evidenced by the response to my kind of similar suggestion about JET. Why streamline things when you can make them difficult??

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      • Faybian

        JET started off pretty good. I was on it in the early 90s and had no dramas with it.
        I agree with lucinda’s comment. BOth parties could do to look at adopting this sort of idea.

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    • LJ

      Having worked in the adult education sector and knowing how affordable a TAFE qualification is I would argue many people don’t want to study and better themselves. I also do not believe in dragging people into education via a grant. I would not like to be the teacher having to teach a group of people who are only there because the government said so. Yes we always need more funding in education and health but after seeing how some of our Education Stimulus funding has been spent I am concerned that noone is checking if schools are using this funding in the best possible way. I am actually not a fan of the baby bonus as they way it is spent is not monitored. Finally neither the government or opposition are showing an leadership on this area.

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      • lucindainthesky

        The cost of a qualification itself is not the point. It is the cost of living which kills. As someone who has just gone through a 4 year university degree living on the breadline to try to get by, it is clear that even those who want an education have great difficulty supporting themselves to get one because it is almost impossible to work full time and study full time. I know a lot of people who would like to study, but once you get a bit older and have a family to support, losing most of an income while studying full time is not an option. Obviously a bonus is not the answer to this but something needs to be done.

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        • LJ

          I am one of those people. A SAHM that will re-enter the workforce but would like to skill up again BUT the costs of reskilling especially post grad quals is enormous and who pays for me? My hubby. I don’t get any help at all. I also have to balance my home life with study too. Not exactly encouragement for me to return to study.

          On the subject of students struggling to live whilst earning their degree, I have more of a gripe with HECS. You struggle to get your first degree then when you have it the debt you owe to the government is so great it prevents you from saving some money towards your future.

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    • Melanie

      Well said Lucinda! (:

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  17. Em

    I want to be Georgie Gardiner when I grow up!

    She looks simply stunning.

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  18. Becnherboys

    Isnt Georgie gorgeous!
    I was so happy to see Adam Hills have a few wins!
    I think the Nationals are going a little too far there but the IAG plan sounds great! Returning to work can be so expensive with paying for daycare upfront etc.

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    • Em

      I agree with everything you have written!

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