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'Get your facts straight.' The debate between two of Australia's most influential doctors.

 

Amelia ‘Millie’ Lucas is 12, and three years ago, she was diagnosed with an aggressive and malignant brain tumour.

Once given just 12 weeks to live, Millie’s family is crowdfunding to cover the costs of potentially life-saving surgery, administered by world-renowned neurosurgeon Dr Charlie Teo.

But another respected Australian doctor, a professor from the University of Sydney, has this week started a debate about the ethics of the scenario.

On Twitter, Dr Henry Woo, who specialises in prostate surgery, wrote, “Something is seriously wrong if a terminally ill girl with a brain tumour has to raise $120K to have surgery.”

“If it was a valid surgery,” Dr Woo continued, “it could/should be performed in the public system under Medicare.”

Dr Woo went on to say that he finds it “really disturbing” that there are currently 113 campaigns on GoFundMe which list Dr Teo as the surgeon.

On Wednesday morning, Dr Teo appeared on the Today show to defend himself against the criticism.

Georgie Gardner began the interview by quoting Dr Woo’s comments, to which Dr Teo responded, “Let’s get our facts straight first.”

“The fact is, although some patients do have to pay over $100,000, that doesn’t all go to the surgeon or even the team.

“It is in a private hospital, which is accounting to their shareholders. They have to make a profit.

Watch: Georgie Gardner speaks to Dr Charlie Teo on Today. Post continues after audio.

“So, for example, that $120,000 bill that Henry Woo is talking about, $80,000 to the private hospital. $40,000 then gets dispersed among not only the surgeon, the assistant, anaesthetist, pathologist, radiologist, radiographer.

“It is not that great an amount to each individual person, when you get your facts straight…”

Personally, Dr Teo said, he would receive $8000 from such a surgery.

He went on to explain that patients outside NSW can only access his surgery through the private health system, so patients from interstate, or who don’t have private health insurance, have “two options”.

“They come to the private system in NSW and get done privately where they have to pay.

“Or I say to them, ‘Listen, if you can get your neurosurgeon from your state to invite me to your hospital, I will operate free of charge in the public system with benefits not only to you but will benefit hopefully the whole neurosurgical community where they can learn my techniques’. Have I ever been taken up on that offer? Never.

“All they need to do is swallow their ego.”

It’s this ego, he says, that has led to the online criticism from Dr Woo.

“The whole Twitter thing is all about trying to destroy or discredit my reputation,” he said.

“I would say to that person, ‘Listen, there is a lot better things we should be doing as doctors rather than trolling through websites looking for ways to discredit a colleague’.

“Get back to your lab, try and find a cure for prostate cancer. I will try and find a cure for brain cancer, thank you.”

In the wake of the debate, former patients of Dr Teo have publicly defended him.

Brisbane woman Alyson Dunlop, 36, told the ABC she was dismissed by three neurosurgeons before she saw Dr Teo. She had a cyst in the centre of her brain which was causing her pain, as well as depression and anxiety, but was told by specialists that it was too small to be affecting her. Ultimately, she paid $100,000 for the surgery, which she says allowed her to “get my life back”.

“What is the cost of someone’s quality of life, how can you put a figure on that?” she said.

In the case of 12-year-old Millie, her family says the only alternative they’ve been given is to put their daughter in palliative care.

It was only when they sent her scans to Dr Charlie Teo, that they were given hope that surgery may save her.

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Les Grossman 5 years ago

In 1919 the worldwide average life expectancy was 30 years. A century later, thanks to science and medicine, children in Australia born today may well live to 100. We live in a time of great safety and health, having cured many afflictions and no longer need to worry about death from infection after a minor cut or a 1 in 5 chance of dying during birth.

In the next 25 years we will all have the tools to routinely resequence DNA, opening up another great advance in health, the curing of virtually all genetic diseases before they ever occur, including the genetic predispositions for cancer. Imagine simple, non invasive procedures to take the breast cancer gene out of your family lineage forever. What a wonderful gift of science.

We should always be encouraging the doctors and researchers at the forefront of medical achievement, every small advance they are making is paying off massively for all of us.


Anonymous 5 years ago

We should be asking why only one surgeon in this country is able to get results from these surgeries when other brain surgeons aren’t. Charlie Teo has always talked about the arrogance and ego of other surgeons who write patients off, when there is still a chance. He makes other surgeons look bad, that’s why they criticise him. They should work harder and learn from him rather than bleat about what he’s doing.

Cat 5 years ago

I think insurance is the real issue here. Most surgeons refuse to do surgery where the risk of being sued is too high. I don’t see how it’s arrogant to say ‘I don’t have the skill to save your life’

Snorks 5 years ago

Perhaps so, but then they should invite Dr Teo to come and do the surgery for free.
(Free for the patient that is)