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Kate Hunter and her family

by KATE HUNTER

Last week saw our little tribe hitting the slopes of Mt Buller in Victoria.

Being Queenslanders with tightarse parents, Ben 11, Annabel 9 and Sally 6 had never seen snow. I’d done a bit of skiing, thanks to a year in Christchurch, and husband Jim was last at Mt Buller when he was 8, staying with his family at ‘Army Lodge.’  We were novices – but excited and enthusiastic novices . Hell, we’re enthusiastic for anything that gets us away from the laundry pile, the office and school for a few days.

We live in Brisbane, so heading to the snow is quite an undertaking – and we were only going for three days so the question was, would it be worth it? My answer is a big fat YES, but like any family holiday, there are ups and downs and ways to ramp up the ups wind down the downs. Here is my (non definitive) list.

UP: Skiing is awesome fun. Learning something new is fabulous. Our kids are the primo age for a skiing holiday. They’re up for anything and learn fast. Sally had spent much of the flight to Melbourne making us promise we wouldn’t push her, ‘Down a mountain.’ Halfway through her second lesson, snow-plowing down a blue run, a smile as big as the Snowy River on her little face.

DOWN: Skiing requires a lot of STUFF. I’m not good with managing stuff. I lose things, misplace things, break things. Sadly, my kids seem to be modeling themselves on me in this regard. A day at the beach requires swimmers, towels, sunscreen, hats. That’s a challenge, but nothing compared to a day on the ski slopes. Beanies, helmets, gloves, neck warmers, goggles, sunglasses, sunscreen, jackets, boots, poles, skis, lip balm, and lift passes multiplied by five is a lot of STUFF and had the potential to do my head in.

UP: Nothing like skiing for teaching kids to take care of their own STUFF. And they love it so much they take extra care, ‘You lose a glove and you will NOT be skiing this afternoon.’ That’s powerful parenting right there.

DOWN: Skiing can be expensive, and that puts lots of people off. Sure, there are people who talk of going to Colorado every February and even in Australia, if you want to wear a different outfit each time you hit the slopes, and drink Grey Goose at swanky bars every evening, you could blow some serious coin. You’ll also look like a tosser.

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Kate Hunter and her family on the slopes.

UP: There are lots of ways to keep costs down and make skiing an affordable family holiday – here’s a few:

• Beg, borrow and steal ski clothes. Even if it IS last season’s. There will always be someone dressed better and worse than you on the slopes. Honestly, no one cares.

• If you can’t borrow it, rent it. Unlike the olden days, rented ski clothes no longer look like relics from Communist China.

• Ski as close as possible to a major city. Mt Buller is ideal – just 3 hours driving from Melbourne, so it’s easy to take a carful of groceries (and wine).

• Ski midweek if you can – it’s less crowded and could find great deals on accommodation, lifts and lessons.

• Consider an apartment or a lodge rather than a hotel. Being able to make your own meals (even some of them) will make a big difference to your budget. Also, skiing makes you tired and you might not be fussed about going out. A toasted cheese sandwich and a glass of red in front of the fire is bliss. That said, we had a couple of excellent restaurant meals – the steak at the Black Cockatoo was sublime, and there was more to the kids’ menu than variations of nuggets and chips. This was grown-up family dining.

Sharing accommodation and expenses with another family is a great idea. Some friends just came back from a three-family odyssey to Falls Creek. They had a fantastic holiday, with built-in pals for everybody.

DOWN: Everyone looks like newborn giraffe (a drunk one) when they first start skiing.

UP: Sign up for lessons and this phase will pass quickly, especially for children, who delight in whizzing past their parents within the first hour. This would be infuriating if it wasn’t so cute. Kids are now required to wear helmets, so they look like little roll-on deodorants hurtling down the hill. The kids’ program at Mt Buller is great – for two and a half hours each morning, parents get to be FREE. You pick them up at 1pm tired, happy and fed (a hot lunch is part of the deal).

DOWN: It can be cold. Yes indeedy. I’m always surprised when people complain about the cold in the mountains. Cold is kind of a pre-requisite for skiing.

UP: There’s no such thing as poor weather, just the wrong clothes. Pile on the spencers and skivvies and peel off as required.

DOWN: Australian snow can be iffy. If you’re a gun skier who doesn’t bother getting off the bearskin rug for less than a triple black diamond mogul field with a jump at the bottom, the unpredictability of Australian snowfall (compared to say Japan, or Canada) could be an issue.

UP: For us, there was plenty of snow. Mt Buller suited our beginner / intermediate family perfectly. There were 14 lifts turning and more than enough long, wide runs to keep us going back for more. The toboggan run was open too. Fun for kids, and excellent toning for parental thighs.

DOWN: The break wasn’t long enough. We went for three days (on snow) which was terrific, but frustrating to leave when we were still discovering new runs and the best cafes for hot chocolate.

UP: Every year comes complete with a Winter. We’ll definitely be back.

Kate’s family stayed as guests of Snow Australia and Mt Buller Mt Stirling Resort Management. 

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  1. Tricia Pugliese

    This story is such a great testament to sharing the passion for snow sports with your kids. Thank you for sharing
    I highlighted it in a thread on EpicSki.com in the hopes of encouraging more parents to get their kids out on the snow and ski more.

    http://www.epicski.com/t/113063/an-australian-moms-take-on-getting-her-kids-on-snow

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  2. Amy

    I have 2 girls, one is 4 and the other just turned 2. We have had our eldest snowboarding since she was 2.5 and she is unreal.. She can ski everywhere at Perisher and I love nothing more than snowboarding with her, i am so proud of how far she has come at such a young age.. (Highlight of last weekend was meeting Torah Bright)… We are starting our little one on some skis next weekend which i can’t wait to see, hope she will love the snow as much as we do..
    There is so much to do down the snow and its great for family’s of any skill level.. BUT, there are the ups and downs, it is expensive whether it be lift passes, accommodation, travel to get there or even food. It is totally worth it though, we have so much fun with the kids down there at Perisher but then every now and then indulge in an adults weekend away… Everything in moderation, LOL…

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  3. Dommo

    Damn straight its worth it. Would hock everything for a week in Thredbo – especially this year. I drive from Brissie to Jindabyne, it’s only 17 hours, so we can do the run up the Alpine Way for first lift the next morning. I love skiing and so do my two kids,especially when they go to Thredboland or Free Riders. They get excellent instruction and I get to go all over the mountain. We get together at 4:00 each day and have an hour or so of family skiing and then back to the apartment at Squatters Run or some other lodge in the resort. Can’t be beat. Hoping to do Japan one year.

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  4. Girlfriday67

    Hey Kate, loved the article. Couldn’t help but throw in my 2 cents worth – we took our 2 kids skiing every year since they were 5 and 8. Was it expensive? My God yes! We probably could have double the superannuation than we’ve got now. But the question is: Is it WORTH it? My God yes! Last year was our last as a family, our daughter is now 18 and living away from home for Uni, and our financial situation, like everyone’s, is getting increasingly tighter. We decided last year was the last that we would pay for everyone – for now. But the memories, the family videos, the bonding and the time spent with our kids over the years has meant that we all grew together, and it forged some strong bonds between us. I mean, when you fall over on a mountain, lose a ski, have a panic attack, sprain an ankle, whatever, and your kid comes back to rescue you, it’s awesome – for them, and you! We would do it all again. But, and a big BUT here: It is getting out of reach of most people. The resorts really need to try and keep costs down so that more families can enjoy it too. I did a price comparison this year on Thredbo with what we would have paid 3 years ago, and it is now about double. And that makes you think twice. I now look forward to the day when I will have the pleasure and honour of teaching my little grandchildren to ski! More hands to carry all that gear! Cheers!

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  5. lovelifexoxo

    Hi Kate, Great post, we are going in 3 weeks to Falls creek with our 4. Need some advice do you think 5 is too young for lessons??……

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    • katehunter

      Hi lovelifeoxo – 5 is perfect. My little one has only just turned 6 and had a ball at her lessons. The instructors take a lot of trouble to get the kids into the right group. The smaller ones seem to pick it up the quickest – maybe a low centre of gravity? Have a great trip – our pals went to Falls Creek with their girls, the youngest being 4 and she did lessons. Had a ball.

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    • Amy

      5 is definitely not too young. Started my eldest snowboarding when she was 2.5, she is now 4 and can ride most of the mountain (everywhere except the black ones). I have put my youngest (before she turned 2) onto my little ones board and her balance is great. We are going to get her on ski’s next weekend. The younger you start them the better, especially if you are going to put them in lessons (we teach our kids ourselves as lessons are too expensive for us). Kids have no fear and pick things up so quickly, i’d say go for it!

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  6. Jodi

    Thanks for the post Kate. I just took my kids to Queenstown in the school holidays and although we had a great time, it was definitely not my most relaxing holiday! I didn’t think enough about the logistics of one adult / 2 children, who, at 4 & 6, are too young to carry their own skis & boots (except for the sticks which my son used as swords!). They did pick it up so quickly and had loads of fun.

    Even though I did go to bed each night thinking of all the warm places we could have been, it was a great experience.

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  7. Jenamum

    Great post Kate!
    My husband and I are planning on taking our 3 month old to Mt Buller next week. My husband will be skiing during the day and I’m going to hang out with the baby in cafes and ‘hopefully’ do a swap at some stage. Do you recommend any cafes or places that are a buy quieter that I can take the baby for a nap?? Any suggestions would be great!

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    • katehunter

      We had good hot chocolate in Abom cafe and it was pretty quiet until lunchtime when the ski school kids descended. But there are nice couches and easy to get to and a good meeting/changeover place. No one will mind if you hang there all morning with baby, a coffee and a good book. At night, I can recommend The Loft in Breathtaker Hotel. Great wood-fired pizza, nice wine and very relaxed. There are dark little corners where a baby could nap peacefully. My daughter fell asleep on some beanbags (she’s 9 though, not three months). We were only there 3 days – I’m sure there are lots of other places. Maybe other commenters can help?

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  8. Mumof2boys

    We are about to imbark on our 1st family ski trip with a 4.5 and 2.5 yr old. Daunting. And apparently the lodge where we are staying likes to feed the kids pre adults so they are in bed when the adults eat – something I cannot see happening with my kids! However, I am hoping that each year will get easier as the kids become more accustomed to the drill & I love that it is an active, healthy holiday which we can all partake in yrs to come. Have raided aldi for the gear. Wish me luck!!!

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    • katehunter

      With any luck, your boys will be so KNACKERED they will be asking to go to bed. This is known as the ‘miracle of the mountains’. Good luck.

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  9. Kylie

    At the risk of sounding like a spoil sport (and I am definitely not one), I really think parents should always wear helmets skiing… Even on the bunny slopes… Because, even if you are a fabulous skier, an out-of-control/beginner skier or snowboarder can easily wipe you out. That aside, I think it sets a good example for the children to see adults wearing helmets too.

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    • katehunter

      You’re probably right Kylie – a few people have made the same comment. I’ll def wear a helmet next time. No reason not to :-)

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      • Kylie

        Fab – glad to hear it! And yes, they are nice and toasty. You do get used to wearing them and it even feels odd not to now – a bit like not putting on your seatbelt in the car. Just make sure to take your time choosing a nice comfy one.

        By the way, I am also one of THOSE mothers who occasionally take my 3 children out of school…

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    • Anonymous

      I’m 24 and I wear a helmet! Been skiing since I was a kid and my mum told me I had to get a helmet or slow down. I picked the helmet. Plus, they’re toasty warm!

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    • CBR

      I’m 24 and I’ve been wearing a helmet since I went to Japan in Feb and, well, everyone else was wearing one. Bought one when I came back to Australia because surprise suprise, they keep your head a lot warmer than a beanie!

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  10. Sian Morton

    Skiing holidays are great family holidays. My kids are all grown up but we have great memories of holidays shared with with cousins etc. There are some really great bargains available for ski passes and accommodation (I suspect this may be due to a drop in custom due to strong Australian dollar) and the passes are much more flexible than they used to be. We just returned from a week at Perisher and had a great time. I agree with the suggestions of others – borrow as much as you can, and wear a helmet.

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  11. Emeri

    Thanks Kate! Great article. We’ve been tossing up whether to go or not. Your article just sealed our YES. Thanks :)

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  12. Dkmum

    Last time I went skiing I was about 12. Going to Norway we did cross country skiing and although quite experienced in the disciplin my newly developing body gave up in an instant when I realised getting up hills wasn’t as easy as it had been two years prior.
    I’ve been a ‘warm country traveller’ since then, which is also what ultimately brought me to Australia. And I’m not leaving – except maybe in winter…
    However, having a toddler and one on the way I’m thinking I could do this skiing thing after reading this post. We’ll see in a few years when the kids can carry their own gear.

    Loved the pros and cons list, exactly what I needed to make me feel I can do this!!

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  13. Noisy

    We’ve taken our kids skiing for the past four years, (since they were 3, 7 and 9). We can’t go this year and are so antsy looking at images of the snow on the various blogs! It is the most wonderful holiday, exhausting yes, but being able to be in the clean cold air is always amazing. Cannot recommend it enough to any family. It’s so worth saving up for, and yes we go locally to falls creek from Melbourne. My biggest tip is; send the kids to ski school. No matter how good a skier you are, they learn so much more with the fantastic instructors. Again worth every cent!

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  14. Anonymous

    Loved the post… We have been skiing with our children since they were 4 & 5yrs and we r now in our 3rd year. Hubby and I avid skiers so we wanted to test the conditions to see if the kids would dig it…. The early starts, the cold, aching bodies etc and thankfully they did. Totally agree, aldi makes it affordable to get kitted out. But we live in northern NSW close to gold coast airport and new Zealand is so achieveable for a short break ski holiday. In 3hrs u can be in Queenstown…. Skiing is pretty good but the exchange rate makes it affordable and the it’s not far to travel.

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  15. Clare M

    Enjoyed this post Kate. We’re just back from a family trip to Falls Creek and it was one of the best holidays we’ve ever had.
    For Guest below, yep – we’ve skied in Europe and Canada and of course it is fabulous, but don’t write off domestic ski holidays, with little kids a short flight is a blessing (something everyone seated around us would agree on.)
    I highly recommend Falls Creek for a family holiday. Great ski school, great runs, beautiful village atmosphere… and we had top weather as well. Just remember to ‘triangle’…

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  16. Jane

    What a fantastic post, thanks Kate! We’ve been talking about taking our 3.5 year old to the snow and I think we definitely will next year.

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    • Anonymous

      Ah yes Pete the Snow Dragon….

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  17. ethel formerly known as guest

    Eeerrr is this a sponsored post as it doesn`t say that it is but on reading it surely it is?

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    • katehunter

      Hi Ethel etc, It’s not a sponsored post in that Snow Australia and Mt Buller didn’t pay beyond covering expenses on the snow. We paid for our own airfares, most meals etc. They didn’t ask that I write anything in particular and we made it clear that my family were guests of the resort at the bottom of the piece – just as happens in many travel articles in print media. Nothing sneaky here :-)

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      • ethel formerly known as guest

        wow I wasn`t implying you were being sneaky….. I just asked a question, made an observation

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  18. anon2

    I live in Queensland, I thought the school holidays were a couple of weeks ago.

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    • katehunter

      You’re right, anon2. I took the kids out of school. I’m THAT kind of mother http://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting/kids-holidays-are-making-teachers-sick/

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      • anon2

        I remember that article you wrote. I got blasted for letting my kid have their birthday off. no extra holidays, just their birthday.

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      • LoveBeingAMummy

        Kate I LOVE that you are ‘that kind of mother’ & that you & your family had such a great skiing holiday. My favorite holidays as a kid was skiing with my family & the most memorable one of all was when my folks took us out of school holiday time as we pretty much had the place to ourselves, it was by far my best childhood memory & yes when we returned to school we had extra catch up to do as we were in high school but we didn’t care as it was such a great holiday & bonding time with my Dad & his then, 2 teenage daughters! Will do the same thing with my kids in a heartbeat!

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        • anon2

          I love being the kind of mother that lets their kid have their birthday off. I just didn’t like being judged for it , by mothers who take their kids out of school to go skiing.

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          • katehunter

            I don’t judge you Anon2. I disagreed with you. There’s a difference :-)

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            • anon2

              oh , ok , glad we got that cleared up then.

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  19. anon

    We take our kids skiing every year and have done so for about 7 years. And, I’ll be brutally honest, its not a holiday. Its an endurance test. Its one of those trips away where you need a holiday laying on the beach to recover from.
    Early starts (especially if they go to ski school), long days, early nights, aching body parts, lugging LOADS of stuff with you each day. I get anxious as soon as it starts to get cold knowing another snow trip is looming….

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    • Amanda

      Ha ha! I also agree with your assessment! I got quite anxious each morning we needed to get ourselves and two small kids breakfasted, dressed, kitted up and down the hill to ski school by 9am. It’s certainly not a relaxing holiday!

      I also totally agree with Kate’s suggestion of skiing mid week. We left Perisher this morning, Saturday morning, and the crowds were CRAZY. We usually arrive Sat arvo and then get lift tickets for 5 days in 7. This gives us Mon to Fri when the crowds are less plus from noon Sunday. The rest of the time we just play in the snow,

      Actually, if you can afford it, I would recommend getting your kids a few hours of private lessons or very small group lessons. The usual group lessons can be very large and they can leap frog in ability over the beginner stages. The first two years we took my son, when he was nearly 4 and then nearly 5 we got him privates rather than put him in ski school. We didn’t get much skiing down ourselves those years but this year we put him in a full day ski class called Fab Four (you pay a bit more for no more than four kids in the class) and he loved it. I really believe in the value of good instruction over a number of years. Makes a world of difference to your enjoyment and safety.

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  20. Alizabeth

    Kate I really enjoy your writing. I’ve just spent the first 5 minutes of some prescious me time laughing! Thanks x

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  21. Ladybug

    Have just returned from a week at Falls Creek with another family. 4 adults and 6 kids ranging from 7 years to 11 months. We had an absolute ball and were all so very sad when our stay came to an end. I agree that skiing is an expensive holiday even with renting all the kids gear but it’s just so much fun. It’s outdoors, it’s active and it’s challenging.

    Ski school is an absolute must. The kids love it and they are run by some of the most lovely, enthusiastic people. Even my little one who isn’t quite as keen to ski as my others enjoys his ‘choccy milk’ at ski school.

    We can’t wait to go back!

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  22. SallyB

    My family skis Mt Buller every 2nd year. It is awesome. We ve not long come back this year. Our kids are 3 and seven and we had the best time. The staff on the mountain without exception are geared to make sure you have the best time!

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  23. kate

    please please PLEASE wear a helmet!! yes you, not just the kids. Our friend was hit in the head by a snowboarder and was seriously injured. Helmets are an absolute necessity.

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  24. Amanda

    Just on our way back to Sydney from Perisher (sitting in a Cooma cafe as I type). We’ve just spent a week with a nearly 8 year old and a 3.5 year old. My best tip: Aldi ski sale. I lined up for the big sale and bought gear for the kids cheaper than I could rent it (clothing). Good quality and will sell or pass it on to others when they grow out of it. Apparently this sale happens every year. Saw lots and lots of Aldi ski parker kids on the slopes.

    Other tips: we stay in a group catering lodge on snow. Cost per person per day for meals was $10.50 and we just took turns to cook. Definitely keeps the costs down.

    I totally agree with the value of lessons for all especially on a crowded slope. Novice skiers who refuse lessons are pretty dangerous to themselves and others!

    Skiing is a great holiday but it is quite exhausting with kids – corralling their gear and getting them up and down the slope to ski school!

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    • katehunter

      Yep, my kids were dressed exclusively by Aldi. Which we borrowed from our mates Robin & Tony.

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  25. Bugalugx

    Made me laugh – kids do look like roll-on deodorants skiing down a mountainside. Hadn’t thought of that before!

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  26. Lisa Jensen

    DOWN – those bloody Milo kids. You can guarantee that EVERY time you fall over a six year old in a green Milo vest, helmet and no stocks will go whizzing past you making you feel utterly incompetent!! Not to mention that I’m postive they assign a Milo kid to specifically haunt you, because it seems to be the SAME kid EVERY time, even if it’s your third fall on the same run!!

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  27. Guest

    Apologies to the sponsors of the post but best skiing advice is not to bother in Australia. It’s mediocre at best and ridiculously expensive. Obviously air fares are an issue but even taking them into account overseas is competitive and if you can tack on a week to your next overseas trip you’ll pay a third to a half for infinitely better snoww, accommodation, food and facilities. You can rent a 6 sleep apartment in France ski in ski out for a week for 300 euros – you’d pay that per night in Australia and a lift pass covering 300 km of runs is about 30 euros compared to around $100 per a tenth of the coverage in the Australian Alps.

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    • katehunter

      Hi Guest, I’ve skied in Europe the US, and NZ and although they are great, it’s not really a fair comparison. I’m not going to bundle up the tribe for a 5 day ski break in Colorado. It’s time as much as money. Our family as a whole were novices and there was plenty of snow and fun at Mt Buller to keep us happy.

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    • Happymum

      I want to know why the fug it is so expensive in Aus to ski?

      Are we paying more for less chance of decent snow? We are being fleeced for the privilege of staying in mediocre accomodation here!

      I know this is a major first world problem whinge! But wouldn’t the tourism industry be trying to attract more people on Aussie slopes, instead of us heading overseas for a tiny bit more?

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    • LisaF

      I agree its expensive to ski in Australia, but the fact that its on our doorstep and keeping a lot of young Aussies employed – I say lets support it! (PS, the airfares to Europe plus accom and additional costs do NOT making it a cheaper option for a family to ski).

      I have skied in a lot of places as well and I really love that the ski fields in Australia are so much less pretentious than skiing in Canada, France, Austria etc.

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      • Guest

        People might not believe that Europe can be cost competitive with Australia and obviously it’s not for a weekend but consider that you can get to Europe in January for around $1600. Australia is so overpriced that if you are skiing for say 10 days it’s not difficult to save $160 per day which means you are equal on cost and getting easily twice the value. Some European resorts can be pretentious but the trick is to find ones that service locals rather than tourists (in particular avoid anywhere frequented by English and Russians).

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    • Lisa Jensen

      Thing is though that it’s difficult to do a weekend trip to France….

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