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Lisa and Matt with their daughters Lulu and Nina

Yesterday on Mamamia, we ran a moving post from a woman named Lisa who was diagnosed with post natal depression after the birth of her twin daughters.

Today we’re bringing you a post from her husband Matt, who writes with searing honesty about what it was like to be living with Lisa and caring for their daughters while she went through post natal depression.

Matt writes:

Looking back on it, my feelings are that Lisa’s post-natal depression was suffered by both of us. From the moment we arrived home with our twin girls from the hospital, we were like two children again, except this time with children. I can’t remember feeling that helpless, like I was standing in the sea and was being pounded by wave after wave. I certainly didn’t feel unhappy at the time, and I don’t believe that I was, but our lives had changed so significantly – we were hostages to our children and their requirements.

We were lucky for the first 10 weeks as I had this entire time off work and stayed at home to get to know the girls as well as doing everything I could to care for Lisa post-caesarean. Obviously there were the normal sleep challenges that come with having children, let alone two of them, as well as the constant struggle to maintain some kind of dietary vigilance as we like to eat as healthily as possible, but much of the time this went out the window for the sake of convenience.

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Lisa and Matt with their daughters Nina and Lulu

Frankly, the support from family members around us was minimal, and more often that not, left us with a strong sense of dissatisfaction afterwards as visits quite often left us frustrated and more stressed than we otherwise would have been.

This was not helped by our general state of mind as new parents – it’s funny how everyone seems to think that we should be ecstatic all the time, when our sleeping/eating patterns were so messed up and think that they have the right to tell us that we should be happy when we clearly were not in the state of mind to take such ‘advice’ all that well.

The real issues started upon my return to work. This was coupled with the death of Lisa’s uncle and her mother also breaking her foot quite badly straight afterwards. This was an especially hard time for both of us and it was during the first 4 weeks or so that Lisa’s postnatal depression escalated significantly, and in turn, my state of mind certainly wasn’t conducive to work.

There were many occasions where Lisa would call me anywhere up to 10 times a day in tears as one of the girls would not sleep/eat appropriately or at the right time, or for any other reason. Lisa was having significant issues with breastfeeding the girls and managing major issues with blocked ducts and the like, but seemed inexplicably determined to continue to breastfeed them even though for Lulu, it clearly wasn’t working. This weighed heavily on me as I had, on numerous occasions asked if it might be better if we formula fed Lulu, much to Lisa’s anguish and, at times, disgust.

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I said before that I can’t remember feeling that helpless as when we arrived home with our children, but I really think that the 2-3 months after I returned to work was worse.

I had a hip condition at the time that caused me significant discomfort and precluded me from walking long distances, but there were times when I’d put the girls into the pusher and just walk around with them, in huge amounts of pain, just to give Lisa a break. I required major surgery that I couldn’t have at the time for a number of reasons, but I felt that my own pain, and mental state, was secondary to Lisa’s, and my own wellbeing wasn’t even on the radar – just be a man and get on with it!

Things dragged on like this for around four months, but started improving slowly after.

Lisa decided that the breastfeeding was not working, and she visited her doctor and did the Edinburgh test. She was diagnosed with postnatal depression and prescribed anti-depressants.

My sense of relief was incredible, and this improvement allowed me to take a night a week to visit friends and just relax away from it all, which I still do today. My friend Paul in particular has been of great comfort and support, though not directly, and has always been a treamendous distractor from the day to day goings on at home.

I personally was diagnosed with mild depression around two and a half years ago – which was probably a hangover from this time. As the man, you feel that you need to take all of this on yourself and keep things going. To be honest, you can’t. It’s not healthy or smart to just think you can cope. Never be afraid to tell anyone what you need if you think that they can help you. Never lie about how you’re doing, to yourself or anyone else. If you’re struggling, say so. Speak to your doctor, friends or family.

Lisa and Matt met in a share house in 1996 and have been married for the last eight years. They live in Melbourne with their twin daughters Nina and Lu Lu, now aged four. The girls are getting ready to start school in the New Year.

This week is post and ante natal depression week. Anyone concerned about postnatal depression can contact the PANDA Helpline: 1300 726 306 or visit their website here. (Find fact sheets here.)

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22 Comments so far

  1. Trev Clancy

    Hello firstly, as you both know we have had twins too, and for everyone else it was me the father who had self diagnosed post natal depression, I did not deal well with what life had become, I always did what was necessary to keep the machine that was my family moving, but I started to hate life and I had never hated life before, I would love to have a conversation with you Matt and I will probably post something soon about my challenges and to you LIsa we come out the other side eventually but the time spent in the abyss of young twins is something I would not recommend to everyone, the romantic side of twins is alluring but the reality is something totally different and if your relationship with your partner survives twins you know you have a keeper. Take care Trev Clancy

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    • Matt B

      Sure thing Trev. Anytime!!! It was a particularly stressful time, but there’s a point when you can, if able, put in place things to reduce that as much as you can.

      Twins sure are a challenge though…. But the rewards are so awesome in the longer term!

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  2. distracted

    Wow. It’s honestly not often that posts on Mamamia move me to tears, but this was one. Such a hard time in a relationship where BOTH of you need the other one to be strong for them, at the same time. What a fantastic job you both did in dealing with the time after the birth of your babies … what shitty luck you had generally. We lived in a different state to all of our family and I can’t believe that with family so close, nobody saw the hardship you went through and tried to make a difference.

    Congratulations, and thank you for telling your story. As a future health worker, this insight into what it actually means when people say they ‘haven’t been sleeping well’ or just ‘aren’t coping that great’ at a checkup REALLY mean.

    Much love.

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  3. Sally

    Thank you both for sharing.

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  4. RES

    I just learnt what giving a cupcake means – I’m scarred for life now!!

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  5. Rachel

    Would just like to thank you lovely people for the responses to my comment. Thankyou for the kind, comforting words. What happens, happens and I now know where to turn should PND every come knocking. Thanks for the confidence boost :D x

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  6. C and W's mum

    Strangely, I think my husband suffered from PND although I didn’t! Our first baby (a girl) was relatively easy but our second 23 months later (a boy) was a shocker. He suffered from intolerances and reflux and rarely slept. He hated the car seat, the pram, lying down and screamed himself sick in these situations….the only time he was happy was being carried upright on my shoulder (tricky with a toddler). We had little family support as both sets of parents, siblings etc worked full time. It was exhausting and socially isolating (hard to go places if he screams in the pram and car seat). I was knackered, but not despairing or depressed. My husband though- he seemed to struggle. I realized when the baby was about 10 weeks old that my husband almost subconsciously avoided him, focusing on our daughter as I think he felt he knew what he was doing with her, but had no clue how to settle our son (there was no guaranteed way, actually!). He was always supportive, but seemed robotic and emotionally flat, so I’ve always wondered….and he was never interested in having a third! Maybe male post natal depression flies under the radar?

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  7. Wendy

    With talk of little family support and twins i wonder how Lisa coped/felt about Matt spending a night a week with friends. Did she also get regular breaks? I’ve just had baby number 2 and I know I’m desperate for my partner to get home and share the load at the end of the day.

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    • queenlisa

      Wendy in response to your concern, be assured that Matt was there for me as much as I needed, he never left my side for very long. His regular weekly visit to his mate’s place began once things had settled down and yes, once I had established a routine that did allow me some time out to do something for myself. He never took his time out at my expense, so to speak. Part of my treatment plan, as it were, was putting the girls in childcare once a week so I could start running and/or going to the gym again. I also realised that Matt equally needed some time out so that he could continue to be the support I needed him to be.

      Lisa

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      • Wendy

        Thanks for your response Lisa. I’m hoping from your detailed answer you or Matt wouldn’t take the question as being rude as M suggested I was being. I guess it’s all about the timing. I too had PND with my first and now with the second I am doing pretty well so far but certain times of the day are harder and I dread nights my partner can’t get home to help. Hopefully once we get into the swing of things he’ll be able to get more time out at nights but right now I need him. Lisa, I’m so glad you and Matt were able to be there for each other to get through this and thanks for sharing.

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    • M

      How can you make a comment like this? Matt has shared one way that has helped him deal with the stresses of life around him and just because he hasn’t mentioned if Lisa also takes time out for herself, he therefore gets a backhanded comment?? I don’t have kids yet but I would hope that it goes both ways, that you can both take some time out for yourself.

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  8. Cath

    Thank you for sharing we so often forget that in a family more than one person is affected by illness and particularly mental illness. You story is so important to help raise awareness

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  9. Flickster

    Matt and Lisa, you are doing a great job. My husband was diagnosed with depression a year after our daughter was born (I often wonder if it was male post natal depression) I have gone through a very simiar thing to you and have also had my bouts of minor depression as a result.
    I dont have anything particularly insightful to say except that I loved reading your article, and really hope things get better for you both as the years go on.

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  10. Suze

    (Whoops, pressed send!)…impact having children will have on your life. Its obvious to me, just from your post, that any child would be welcomed into a loving family, thats a great start! xx But I guess, no one can say for sure how you will cope. I’d just say, don’t be scared, and if you (or your partner) do end up needing help once you’ve had a baby, it’s not a sign you’re a failure, more like a loving mum/dad who want the best for their child and are too hard on themselves!
    P.s yes, I suffered PND after the birth of my 1st (a year ago) but since getting help, I’d have to say I’m the happiest I’ve ever been :)

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  11. Who Knows

    Even though I did not suffer from PND a close friend did and was eventually admitted to mental health facility. With the birth of her other children her Dr kept a close eye on her and all is well. After the birth of my first child a group of family members came over and just sat there did not bother to bring anything nor get up and get themselves a drink. Flowers are nice but doing the dishes or bringing over some food can mean and awful lot to a new family.

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  12. Rachel

    Reading these stories of PND makes me a little nervous for when I start having kids. My partner and I have a great life at the moment, getting married in 12 months time, buying a house in the new year and currently with his new job we are experiencing a financial freedom we have never had before. We both want a family and plan to after we are married but these posts scare me to pieces! I dont want to upset our currently happy lifestyle, but the desire for kids from both of us is strong and. My mum suffered from it and makes me wonder if I will have a predisposition to it. Its a scary thing to think about!

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    • Suze

      I think the fact that you are thinking about it is a good/positive start. I think its completely normal to worry about the im

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    • Kate

      I know what you mean Rachel. My partner and I have a great, easy lifestyle and my mum (and grandma) suffered from a host of mental health problems, particularly around post natal depression. But you have said that you both have a strong desire for kids. So do we, and for that reason we’re going to throw ourselves into it when the time is right. The benefit of these sorts of articles in my view is to give people insight into what it (can) be like, not always, but can be. Nothing better than going in prepared about what could happen. Obviously fingers crossed it won’t, but with this kind of knowledge under your belt you’ll probably be in a position to recognise the signs if they arise and seek positive assistance early, which is one of the best things you can do. All the best :)

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    • queenlisa

      Rachel, a completely rational fear. But I urge to see my story as something that can remind you, when the time comes and if you do happen to find yourself suffering the same fate, that you are not alone, that you don’t have to suffer alone, that it is a difficult job, that it’s reasonable to feel that you can’t cope or feel overwhelmed BUT that help is out there, there IS a way out, it doesn’t have to be that way. You can learn from my experience (and of others’) to recognise the signs and symptoms, not to place unrealistic or more importantly unnecessary expectations on yourselves as new parents. It’s not easy and you both need and deserve help and support in learning to become parents. And if it doesn’t come, you are well within your rights to ask. There is still the perception out there that the arrival of a new baby is a happy time, and it is, but what is overlooked is that it is also a scary, foggy, mysterious time where previously acomplished individuals suddenly find themselves fumbling around in the dark completely lost in a new world (as Matt said feeling like we were children again ourselves). So people will be tempted to leave you to “enjoy” your new baby, “settling in”, “you must be so tired”, etc. They don’t realise that that’s when you need their help and support most, so remember to ask for the help that you want – specifically, i.e. meals, babysitting so you can go for a walk, have a sleep, some cleaning, shopping, etc. whatever you need.

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    • Mel {Latte Mum}

      I was worried about getting PND too Rachel, as I have experienced depression in the past. I also found that everywhere I turned there were articles, posts and forum discussions on the hardships that come with having a child, instead of the joys. This seemed to escalate when I was pregnant, with people offering “commiserations” and horror labour stories from every angle. Thankfully, my reality was completely different. The first couple of weeks were tough – I found breastfeeding difficult and we had no family or close friends around to support us – but we settled into it soon enough and then everything fell into place. Most of the Mums I’ve met since have shared similar positive stories too. I think hearing from people like Matt & Lisa is incredible and inspiring, and shows how important it is to be aware of PND and support each other through it. I also think it’s important to remember that everyone’s experience is different and unique, which is why having children is such a rewarding experience – so don’t be afraid to take that plunge when you feel the time is right for you :) xx

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    • Donna M

      Hi Rachel,
      I too was worried at first, especially because depression runs in my family but I was the opposite. complete elation for both of my 2 kids who were 18 months apart.
      Its important to remeber the the figure is something like 40% of mothers, not a guaranteed 100%.

      For me I did recieve antenatal dpression with my third, but that seems to have been blamed on a medication imbalance as I removed my self from medication when pregnant (which i now know was the wrong thing to do) this gave me a 70% chance of recieving post natal depression and again complete elation even though my third was completely different in terms of sleeping/behaviour etc.

      My biggest advice to you and any mother to be is…

      DONT have any expectations, even the feeling of love you feel for this baby can not be explained,

      surround your self with family or someform of support network and take any help offered

      Babies need love, not a clean house, you are both new at this so take each day as it comes and don’t sweat the small stuff :)

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  13. Shaezy

    Thank you for your honesty, Matt. As I commented yesterday, I suffered PND after both children’s births, and although he has never really discussed it, my husband suffered during this time also.

    He took the “be a man about it” approach, but in hindsight I can see where he struggled daily to maintain his own sanity when mine was clearly out the window.

    I wish there was more information – perhaps through ante-natal classes – for both partners regarding PND and how it affects the family, as we need to normalise this condition so it is not seen as “shameful”. Fathers are so often neglected at this time, and may suffer in silence (causing unknown damage), or break (and leave the relationship). PND is very real, more common than many realise, and can be so damaging. But it can be managed as well, and one (hopefully both) can, with the proper treatment and support, come out into the sunshine on the other side.

    Best of luck to you and Lisa and your gorgeous girls.

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