By MIA FREEDMAN
Here’s what happened: Marissa Mayer, the newly appointed and (until last week) pregnant CEO of Yahoo was asked to pose for the cover of Fortune magazine. For their 50 most Powerful Women issue. She was 7 months pregnant at the time and declined their kind offer, preferring instead to send them a shot.
Cue: international incident.
UK media reports:
The 37-year-old, who has already raised eyebrows after sharply limiting her maternity leave to two weeks, declined to be photographed for the cover while pregnant which has added fuel to a recently revived debate surrounding working mothers.
Parenting websites have come out saying it is a ‘big diss’ to motherhood, with CafeMom asking today whether the new mother thought ‘her svelte figure would portray power in a way that her baby bump would not?’
The New York Times’ Jodi Kantor posted the cover on Facebook, asking: ‘OK, semioticians of working parenthood. What does it mean that the cover of Fortune shows Marissa Mayer … as not pregnant?’
Well, you know what Jodi? And others? Maybe it means nothing. Maybe it means Marissa was tired and busy and pregnant and didn’t have the time or inclination to faff around on a photo shoot for half a day. Maybe that’s what it means.
Currently, every time a woman in the public eye does something, she doesn’t do it just for, and as, herself. She does it on behalf of 3.3 billion other women, too. She is seen to represent her entire gender – a putative Team “The Birds” – in a way men just aren’t. When a bloke screws up, he’s just some bloke, screwing up. When a woman makes a hash of it, however, she’s a cultural signifier, and basis for a million polarised debates. Every famous woman is someone we have to have an opinion on: Lady Gaga, Rebekah Brooks, Naomi Wolf, Rihanna, Mitt Romney’s wife. You must be either for or against them. Your stance on them is a telling indicator of your world view.
When I interviewed her this week, she told me how she is also asked constantly to comment on the feminist significance of everyone and everything from EL James and Mummy Porn to Marisa Mayer and Honey Boo Boo. While never being short of an opinion or lacking the courage to express it, she rejects this idea of every woman having to carry the can for all of woman kind. Including – and especially – Moran herself having to somehow embody all feminists.
Her solution is a welcome one:
“We need to stop referring to things as “female dilemmas”, “women’s problems” or “thorny subjects for feminism”. If there’s something making life difficult for women, then this is something that is, most assuredly, making it difficult for everyone else in the world, too. Women don’t live on a separate continent – Birdtopia – communicating only sporadically with the menfolk by e-mail. If 52 per cent of the potential brain power in the world is being hindered by something – like lack of childcare, or creepy, “WTF?” debates on rape and contraception – it behoves this small planet for everyone to jump on it and sort it out as quickly as possible.
Basically, this is an emergency. We don’t have time for another 100,000 years of women feeling sad about their arses, and being held back at work by some swaggering misogynist pinhead called Simon, when there are polar bears to save and cancer to cure.”
I understand that women are always looking for role models but let’s not let that become an oppressive albatross that every woman in the public eye must carry around her neck. There is room in this world for Marisa Meyer and Margie Abbott and Brynne Edleston.
That doesn’t mean we can’t discuss them. But women – and feminism – are broad and diverse churches. Can’t we be cool with that?







Comments
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thank God someone posts a reasonable article on Marissa Mayer! I totally agree, people should give her a break. When I was 39 weeks pregnant I certainly didn’t want to be photographed myself, not even for my own private photo collection! So the last thing you want when you’re sweaty and swollen and 25kg above your normal weight is to be on the cover of Fortune magazine! If some women would love to do that, fine, but people should respect her decision. She can do what she wants. And exactly, let her just be Marissa Mayer, a fantastically successful human being who also happens to be a woman, not “the woman” who has to do everything taking into account billions of other women on the planet.
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I agree, I would not have chosen a picture pregnant either. She is on the cover of Fortune magazine not Practical Parenting! This is called being professional and protecting her brand, I applaud it. I recently had to submit a cover shot for a journal article, did I choose very carefully the exact picture I wanted to portray the right image and context-damn straight I did. And BTW when she chooses to come back from Maternity leave is her business. I personally would have struggled, but never judge someone until you have walked in their shoes.
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Do forums like this where women can blather away oblivious to the rest of the world an blame everyone else for their ‘global’ problems actually work against women? One comment said that men wouldn’t be expected to pose with their ultrasounds and you know what – they aren’t out there whinging about their problems either.
What would be better is to just get on with it and show that whilst we are the fairer sex, we are also just as capable, but have significant differences such as the ability to produce babies and bring them up into wonderful human beings. It’s a great thing to be able to do, and we don’t need to forget that.
Sure Marissa may be back at work 2 weeks after giving birth, but that’s her bizzo. It’s stupid to force that on others – because let’s face it, it’s not practical.
If all we are out to do is label everyone else out there who doesn’t give us our own way a misogynist then we are fighting a losing battle.
Controversial or practical?
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Completely off the point here, but anyway….I really like the dress she’s wearing!
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Absolutely agree with everything being said in this article but also that this transfers across to other minority groups. Just because one indigenous person in the public eye expresses an idea or an opinion doesn’t mean it represents all indigenous people. Just because one gay person in the public eye says or does something doesn’t mean it represents all gay people.
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I am a reasonably attractive (well, not completely hideous) person who looks like death while pregnant. If I did happen to be the sort of woman who Fortune wanted on their cover, I fail to see how me looking green, wan, unhappy and most probably clutching a bucket could do anything for feminism/motherhood/womankind/anyone at all.
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It is Marissa’s right to choose her photo surely ? well I assume that was part of the arrangment
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She was probs just feeling totally fat and grumpy, and hormonal. And who would have the urge to get on the front of a very well-known mag feeling like that. Everyone just relax. The woman was preggers. Cut her some slack and let her chill in her slacks while she’s with child, about to pop, whatever you want to call it.
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Maybe she just wanted a picture that represents what she looks like most of the time.
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Its a magazine with articles centering around business, its not a parenting magazine…appropriate picture, and as a mother who has an exeutive job if i was ever asked for a picture on this magnitude I would want to look my best too!!! We need to stop holding these women accountable for their decisions, and what it means for the other’ 3.3billion women in the world’.
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Great post. Why should her pregnancy define her in the workplace?
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In this case you’re wrong. Pregnancy in the workplace, childcare, work/life balance, is a massive massive issue for women. Clearly in this case, how Marissa Mayer deals with it will have a significant impact on how the rest of ‘womankind’ will be expected to deal with it. In this case she just pretends it doesn’t exist. As do all men. Unacceptable.
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It’s her choice. It’s not your place to tell a woman how she should portray herself on a magazine cover.
I don’t know if Forbes magazine covers those issues in it’s pages.
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Sorry that should have been Fortune magazine, not Forbes.
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Thats a great point Alex! I agree with you. Most women dont have the luxury of money to pay for endless support at home or to allow for their husband to be at home and a flexible executive role to manage returning to work 2 weeks after giving birth. I hope her attitude that her pregnancy and baby are things that are best out of sight doesnt flow down to her staff. It does set an unreasonable precedent when the boss only takes 2 weeks off and I hope it doesnt put ridiculous expectations on her female staff to do the same. If we are supposedly encouraging family friendly workplaces this flies completely against that and I take from her attitude that pregnancy and babies are incompatible with a succesful career. Best keep them hidden at home or pretend they dont exist at all.
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“Best keep them hidden at home or pretend they dont exist at all.”
I don’t know how you came to this conclusion based on what we’ve heard about Marissa so far. Also, how you came to the conclusion that other women in the company will feel pressure to take 2 weeks of maternity leave because she did. Her maternity leave is her decision, she doesn’t owe other women anything.
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Jess, it often comes from the top. I worked with a woman who had her baby, admittedly a little earlier than expected, on the Friday night after work. She came in on the Monday to tidy things up and came back fulltime very quickly. So when our receptionist, who was probably on an quarter of her income took 6 months off many people commented how lazy and indulgent she was, not like xxx who showed her committment by coming back quickly.
And my manager took very little time off with her children so when I took 12 months off with my first baby she told me I would regret it!
I think its naive to think that her staff wont feel at least a bit intimidated or judged and expect to show the same level of dedication to their jobs when many of them couldnt care less about their jobs and will just want to enjoy being with their baby for as long as they can.
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Sorry but I would have loved a kick-ass picture of Mayer pregnant! What is more powerful that a woman both running a huge corporation and growing a human life inside her. It would have shown how amazing we women are, not to mention be a wonderful pic to show her child. I think she caved to vanity which is a real shame.
Mia I agree with you to a degree but it isn’t just you high-profile women under pressure to be constant role-models. There are plenty of us with daughters who are watching every move we make. We are all responsible to each other for making sure their way is made fairer than ours has been, high profile or not.
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I disagree completely with what you’ve said. Her pregnancy has nothing to do with her role as a CEO and it has nothing to do with Fortune magazine. It’s not a parenting magazine and I actually think it would make her look a little silly posing pregnant on the cover on Fortune. I think it has nothing to do with vanity. And I’m sure she has plenty of personal photos where she is pregnant that she can show her child one day.
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I saw an interview with Condaleeza Rice a while back and she said all her role models were old white men….I found this quite a refreshing perspective. We are all human beings, if you want a role model in some particular area then find one. They don’t have to look just like you.
Better yet be one yourself.
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Hate to state the obvious but a picture of a pregnant mum-to-be isn’t a powershot a multi-million dollar co-orporation CEO!! I wouldn’t have posed that way either. The business world is tough enough for women without giving men anymore power!! Its cruel but it is what it is. Motherhood is all powerful (i can create a person) in its own way but holds NO weight in the business world…infact quite the opposite!!
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Not quite sure where to comment but this post seems most appropriate. I just wanted to congratulate Mia for an honourable mention in the Australian as a ‘woman to watch’ in digital media. I just read it over lunch time and got the warm and fuzzies when I saw her name!
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Fortune liked the supplied picture enough to use it on their cover!
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She might not want to parade her body over magazines. Respect her choice.
Must be a slow news day in the UK.
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God damn Caitlin Moran is amazing.
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Yes! Well said Mia.
As for Marissa Mayer, if she doesn’t want to pose pregnant then That is her business! Her position may be a public one but her private life is hers to keep private (or make public) as she chooses.
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She can do as she sees fit and anyone who wants to tell her what to do with her body is as bad as the people they don’t want telling them what to do with theirs.
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This just makes no sense. She’s built her career over years, it makes sense that she would want to be shown as she has been through most of her career. Because that way, we can all focus on her amazing career and not that she’s about to have a baby.
Or maybe she’s just like me. I’m 7 months pregnant, and I’m in full camera shy mode, because I look terrible. It just doesn’t suit me. Sure, we’ll get some snaps for posterity (son, look what you did to your poor mother) but there is no way on the planet I’d let those photos onto the cover of a magazine. Or page 16 of a magazine. Or even Facebook.
Please don’t give me crap about “pregnant women are beautiful, embrace your beauty”. I’m puffy, pallid, my skin is terrible, my lips look like sausages and my hair… let’s just not.
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I have only ONE photograph of me pregnant with my son (now 14). I regret it now, but at the time the last thing I wanted was to be photographed!
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same here on both counts. At least I got photos of the baby ..
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Exactly my thoughts. If she posed pregnant, then that would be the ‘focus’, not the career she has built over the past 15 or so years.
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It’s not just about the photograph. This story gained attention because in addition to not wanting to be photographed pregnant, Mayer took virtually no maternity leave, with some people interpreting that to mean she believes being pregnant and having a baby is something you need to hide and/or minimise the effects of in an extreme way. I don’t have a problem with either decision, but I think any news story that gets people talking about the pressures of women going back to work is healthy, right?
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@Julia There is nothing wrong with taking maternity leave and coming back to have a big career but you also can’t do a job as CEO of a publicly listed internet giant while on maternity leave. I suspect (though don’t know) she might have taken a longer maternity leave if she’d stayed in her old position at Google or a year or two into the CEO role at Yahoo. It was awkward timing but I support her decision not to turn down a great opportunity.
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I LOVED being pregnant! But I wouldn’t have wanted to appear on the front of a magazine at 7 months either – why do people this this is a ‘diss to motherhood’ and rather focus on the fact she probably just wanted something important and enduring to be her best shot. Women starve themselves to look good in wedding photos, what’s the difference?
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I have to say she chose a great photo for the cover. She indeed looks powerful and very well put together.
I’m glad she didn’t pose pregnant for it. I’m sick of the public ownership of women’s pregnancies in the media.
A woman is only pregnant for 9 months. Why must this period be such a defining time? When I see that cover I think of all the other months and years that she has put in previously to get to where she has gotten.
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this is such a great comment.
i think you’ve nailed it. end of story.
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Why thank you green trees
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I don’t see it as an issue at all, it’s totally her perogative and she probably has many reasons why she chose not to do the shoot pregnant. It’s a personal choice, some people love to flaunt there baby body and others see it as a very private matter. She is being recognised for her work in the magazine and I think the photo is great.
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great article. I agree that famous women are judged on their personal lives too much in the media.
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Her family life is private. I fully respect the right to keep that side of her life out of the spotlight. Being a mother does not define her. I think she is doing a fantastic job under a huge amount of pressure. Any woman could be proud of that!
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This is the double standard that I struggle with. Being a mother doesnt define her, however its ok for her career to define her?
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Thank you Mia. Us chicks need to stop having our attention diverted by these ridiculous diversion tactics that keep jumping up in front of us and get down to doing shit that matters. Whether that shit is raising your child in the manner you want to, becoming the prime minister or saving the planet. Stop getting distracted and do the shit that matters!
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Nice piece. I’ll be curious to hear the rest of the interview with CM.
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Watch this space!
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ARGH!
The problem with being pregnant, especially heavily pregnant, is that it is impossible to keep your private life private if that is your thing. It’s my thing. With my few actual friends through work (not acquaintances and colleagues) I can bore them senesless with stories of little lad and red rocket. However to all but those two or three, i don’t discuss them. Most people wouldn’t know i had two children – unless they were around in the last three months of last year where it was impossible to hide.
I was heavily pregnant when my boss suddenly departed and i was asked to act and restructure the area. I did all of that whilst running backwards and forwards to hospital daily and puking in a bin under my desk. I then got an interview to have the position permanently. I was 37.5 weeks pregnant and the interview was terrible. Not because of my performance was pretty good int eh circumstances, but that it was impossible for them not to comment on the ‘elephant’ in the room. Here I was with the opportunity to put 17 years experience into action as an Executive and my pregnant state kind of took up the room.
If you think for one second I would have put that on the front page of the local paper, let alone Fortune, you’ve got rocks for brains.
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Love your comment Dee.
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Fabulous point Dee. I’m 7 months pregnant and the nature of my work means I have very little physical contact with colleagues and clients. All but a couple have no idea I’m pregnant. As long as I keep doing my job, I don’t see why they need to know about my pregnancy any more than they need to know any other detail of my private life.
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Had she NOT been pregnant and declined ther request for a photo shoot I suspect she would’ve been commended for not wasting company time on it.
Why do we make an issue out of a non-issue? I’m just admiring the fact she’s on the cover of Fortune, regardless of her appearance.
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Can the media just give this woman a break!?!
It’s her life, her choices, her decisions.
The only thing I take from this woman is “We can achieve anything we want if we put out minds to it”. anything else is irrelevant, and not any of our business.
Go Marissa!
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I’m not sure why this was even an issue for people to begin with. I think that it’s unfortunate that a woman in the public eye has to be everything to everybody. If she wants to cut her maternity leave short, this isn’t because she is shunning motherhood groups, it’s a personal choice that works for her and her circumstances. If she doesn’t want to pose while she is pregnant, give her a break, she may have other things on her mind. I think that Mia is right in her article, there is no one definition of a woman – or of feminism – there are many different ways that we can be defined.
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Maybe Marissa is too busy trying to run Yahoo to take time off for a photo shoot? I doubt it has anything to do with being remembered at this time as being pregnant and more to do with being the CEO of Yahoo during a difficult period.
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I am cool with it!
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I don’t like the deliberately controversial tone of this article. It is headlined “Marissa Mayer didn’t want to pose pregnant. Give her a break”. The article then goes on to say “maybe this and maybe that” regarding her motivation. Which is pretty much an admission that Mia has no idea why Marissa sent them a shot instead of posing pregnant. This is fuel to the all women hate each other thing that, yes, we don’t say about men. Maybe Marissa is not appreciative of yet another arguement in the media about her choices, generated seemingly without her having to do more than appear on a magazine cover. Women are not haters any more than men are.
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Yes, Mia doesn’t know Marissa’s motivations. Her point is that they are not relevant – it’s a valid choice and shouldn’t be a big deal.
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Maybe she just wants her work record that allowed her to grace the cover of fortune magazine to speak for itself – a photo of her pregnant body would reignite further debate regarding her maternity leave which prevails purely because of her gender.
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Perhaps they choose her for the cover because she was pregnant and they wanted the world wide scoop. There were others they could have selected and yet they wanted a pregnant woman, pregnant women on covers sometimes boosts sales and perhaps she didn’t want to buy into the materialist ideals of the magazine. Im sure she has better things to do with her time than boost the sales of a magazine who probably asked her to do it for free and for their own gain.
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It’s totally appropriate to decline the photoshoot even if she wasn’t tired, busy etc. I assume she’s on the cover for the “50 most powerful women” article, not “50 most pregnant women” or “50 most working pregnant women”. It’s Fortune, not a parenting magazine.
This cover is one way she’ll be portrayed through time – I’d prefer to be remembered by the world at large for my career achievements rather than be the poster child (literally) for all these ‘what makes a good mother?’ conversations from now until eternity. As a successful business woman she’s an inspiration to others, as a pregnant woman sparking controversy she’s a cautionary tale to younger women telling them not to bother. Why would you choose to be portrayed as the latter?
BTW – John Mangos equating taking 2 weeks maternity leave to child abuse/abandonment or similar on Weekend Sunrise yesterday was jaw droppingly astonishing. He said something along the lines of her not deserving to have a child! Clearly John is the next Doctor as we just whooshed back in time for a bit there (and he has been bestowed with the power to make moral decisions for others).
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Right now I’m 8 months pregnant. I feel exhausted, not to mention far from my photogenic best. I’m definitely not in the mood to grace a magazine cover…
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How many male CEOs are asked to pose with their newborns or with ultrasound pics?
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I never wanted my photo taken while I was pregnant and that was my decision. So I could be a time thing, an energy thing or something she wishes to keep private (or a combination of thing). Whatever it is its her choice, just as it is that she going back to work.
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Maybe she just didn’t want her front page pregnant Business Mag photo to cause the next round of debate with her at the centre. Sad for her that it did.
Geeze, just let her make decisions and be herself. I was exhausted at 7 months pregnant. I needed a nap after just making a salad. Can’t imagine running a company, let alone the intrusion of the global public eye as well.
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After reading some of the comments last time an article about Marissa was published on Mamamia, I wonder what the reaction would’ve been had she posed pregnant. I imagine some of the armchair critics would now accuse her of trying to soften her image after being attacked for the length of maternity leave she chose to take. Or worse it’d reignite even more of the nasty commentary that appeared after her appointment questioning her ability to perform as Yahoo’s CEO simply because she’s a woman who *gasp* got pregnant.
I personally wouldn’t have posed for a pregnancy pic for numerous reasons but whatever Marissa’s were behind her decision, I fully support them. How disappointing that some are now judging her for this too.
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I know this off-topic, Beans – but I’ve been wondering for some time now just why beans are the magical fruit…?
If you’d said “musical fruit,” then it’d be kind of understandable. Everyone knows the FX of baked beanz!
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haha I think I’d had a couple of glasses of wine when I first made this username but I stuck with it. I’m not sure if this caught on in Australia but back home there was a nursery rhyme we’d always say whenever we were eating beans. Depending on who taught it to you musical was used instead of magical so you nailed it in one!
Beans beans the magical fruit
The more you eat, the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you’ll feel
So eat your beans with every meal!
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Thanks Beans, I’ve wanted to know how you came up with that name too!
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We say ‘beans beans, good for your heart. The more you eat the more you fart. The more you fart the better you feel so eat your beans with every meal’.
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I thought of Jack and the beanstalk
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I dont buy the too busy excuse. She’s CEO of a huge company. She could have staff and aids to help her run every aspect of her life if thats what she chooses.
But she is entitled to want privacy. And some women are really superstitious about having photos taken of them when they’re pregnant. We dont know her reasons but whatever they are she’s entitled to them.
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Firstly, did she decline BECAUSE she was pregnant or did she just happen to decline whilst she was pregnant? Most of the time the images used of people chosen as the “person of the year” or “leader of the year” etc. are stock images. Shockingly CEO’s, world leaders and so on have better things to do than have their picture taken.
Secondly, why do people make such a huge deal about a woman in the public eye having a child? Women have babies everyday, but only a handful of women can say they are as successful as Marissa Mayer. Surely her achievements are more interesting than the fact she, like billions of others, had a baby?
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So what’s the issue ?
Sometimes I don’t want my picture taken, either.
It’s Marissa Mayer’s business and no one else’s.
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Yet another pathetic example of society being judgemental about the way a woman chooses to conduct herself while pregnant.
Whatever Ms Mayer’s reasons, she has right to make a personal choice. End of story.
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