This post originally appeared on Role/Reboot and has been republished here with full permission.
by DREW BOWLING
For all the good value that comes with friendship, perhaps the most dubious quality is comfort. Someone who won’t judge you when you need to lean on them during difficult times, a companion who will have dinner or watch a movie with you, somebody willing to drive you to the airport: these are a few of the splendid benefits of having somebody in your corner.
This same level of comfort is also the point at which certain filters begin to dissolve, allowing us to speak candidly to each other in a way we might not in public. I will certainly attest that some of the things I say to my closest friends are so profane and ridiculous that I would never dare share it with unfamiliar company. While the comfort of being able to be yourself, as they say, around your familiars is something devoutly to be wished, it occasionally presents a quandary whenever a friend says something that troubles you.
I’ve been meditating on this dilemma lately because while I was among a group of friends recently, one member of the group, who happened to be Caucasian, shared a personal insight into why he is single: He desires to only date Asian women.
Sure not to miss their cue, other people attendant to the conversation mic-checked the requisite, “Uh-oh, you got the yellow fever!” I, however, did not reply, even though the admission exhumed a sociological problem that has perplexed and harassed me for years—the underlying implication of preferring to date a specific ethnicity that isn’t your own.
In the immediate case here, of a white man desiring to date only Asian women, I hesitate to dismiss this as simply a personal affectation because, at its basis, and most likely unintentionally, the choice smacks of sexual colonialism. In Western culture, non-white races have historically been indexed as “Other,” sometimes boiling down the non-white person into a token of what Westerners believe to be universally true about a given culture.
Within this perspective, a white man professing his ambition to only date Asian women resurrects the assumption that all Asian women must have the same fundamental attributes, owing to the fact that they come from the same continent—not even coming from the same country, mind you. Assuming that all Asian women, or all people of any race in general, share some inherent quality that makes them desirable is, frankly, racist.
The white man/Asian woman dichotomy is by no means the only example of this type of inter-racial Other-ing. I mention the colonialism aspect simply within the historical lens of white male’s gaze. Although I won’t argue that such a colonial outlook is limited to Western Caucasians, in the interest of full disclosure, I can only speak personally of this particular experience because I’m white, American, and male.
More generally, regardless of your own race, preferring to only date within another ethnic group continues to drag behind it the assumption that the object of your desire possesses an innate, exotic characteristic that naturally runs through that entire race.
Whether it’s other cultures or self-driving cars or the colour of ink you prefer to write with, people tend to project a token value on the new and unfamiliar. Heir to this projection, people are also intrigued and guided by their aesthetic desires. We choose cars because of how they look and perform. We live in apartments and houses because of how we imagine ourselves inside of them. We enjoy certain foods because of the pleasant tingle the taste brings to our palate. You pick out a TV because you like the big plasma screen and how the picture will look when paired with your surround sound.
The same process of curiosity, for better or worse, affects how we choose partners. Some people prefer redheads to blonds, short hair instead of long hair, tall people over short people, beards instead of a shorn face, lunch dates at Qdoba instead of Chipotle, etc. Some of those qualities are negotiable—can’t hate on the occasional late-night date to Taco Bell—while others might be more personal. I, for one, tend toward taller women simply because I am very tall and my posture already sucks so I don’t wanna make it worse by craning down to steal the occasional smooch (and I’d like to believe that smooching would happen on a regular basis).
Any of the above examples of personal preferences will limit the dating pool, not to mention that some of the attributes still maintain stereotypes about a person possessing specific characteristics. Yet, I imagine someone evoking the right to personal preference when defending a desire to exclusively date other races: “How is there any difference in saying I prefer to date black people as opposed to blond people? It’s simply a matter of preference.”
Theoretically, I suppose you shouldn’t single out blonds as the only viable dating options; in the end, it’s very superficial. However, a preference for blonds is less likely to be based on a cultural assumption (well, as long as you don’t consider Real Housewives of Orange County as a legitimate culture) the way said assumption exists when choosing to only date someone who is black.
That we have slang terms for the desire to only date other races is somewhat telling. Yellow Fever. Jungle Fever. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard one for Latinos before. Do we have one for Arabs? Has Cracker Fever been codified yet? At any rate, categorising such a desire in a way that suggests a lustful rabidity isn’t exactly making a good argument for preferring one race over all others, to say nothing that most of these are typically only applied to white/non-white relationships.
Is it possible to exclusively desire someone of a certain race without rendering that person’s entire race and culture as an adventure into the exotic? I won’t definitively say that it isn’t possible, but in the meantime I’m not hearing any arguments for exclusively preferring someone of a specific race that aren’t steeped in reductive notions of exotic tokenism.
This post was originally published on Role/Reboot here and has been republished with permission.
Drew Bowling writes about language, gender, and mental health, although other topics have been known to enter his orbit. When he’s not writing, he spends his time pretending to be a photographer. Follow his messy thought-trail on Twitter.
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55 Comments so far
I think there’s a difference between having a preference for a certain look, and deciding to exclusively date people who look a certain way.
It’s totally normal for people to find people who are blonde, or people with dark skin, or people who are built or skinny or whatever more physically attractive.
But that is not the same as making a decision to only date people with a particular physical characteristic – if you do that, you are either saying that your preference for that physical characteristic trumps anything else a partner could offer (which very few people will admit to), or you’re making a generalisation from a physical trait to personality traits. Like thinking that a blonde will be easy going and fun; or a tall, hairy man will be a strong person; or an asian woman will be gentle and subservient. And right there is where you’ve crossed a line, as far as I’m concerned.
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Really well put!!
Hit the nail on the head with that one.
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Those are the worst memes I’ve ever seen…
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Everyone likes different things; if we all liked the same, it would be a pretty boring world. I’m generally not attracted to black or asian men, but I don’t think that makes me racist, it’s just an innate preference. It’s not to say that I wouldn’t date a black or asian man if I met one who just “clicked”. Admittedly, the people I’ve been attracted to have been quite varied, and I never thought I’d be dating an older, slightly balding man, but here I am!
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My ex husband has a relation who WILL NOT date Anglo-Aussie girls. He thinks they’re all mean and obsessed with looks and money?
So he prefers Phillipinas and South American girls. He thinks they’re more genuine. I worry that they’re more interested in residency.
Not all people from these places, but the girls he meets.
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I’m eurasian – half asian/half caucasian and grew up with a very broad exposure to both sides of my background. I have lived in Asia, Europe, Australasia and the Middle East. My previous relationships have been with a wide range of people from different cultures though I have to say I am personally not physically attracted to Asian men or guys with blond hair. Physically, if I had to chose a type, I would say tall and with darker hair/ features but the rest simply comes down to personality and how well we get on together.
I have recently found myself interested in an black guy (who incidently was born and grew up in the UK, and has the most amazing accent
When I mentioned it to several friends, the response surprised me as most of them could not understand the attraction but to me, this guy has been amazingly sweet and a gentlemen. I think its about time we stopped judging people on what they look like, and using that as the main criteria for who we date/marry/live with..After all, if you narrow yourself down to a specific type, you might just lose out on the person you were meant to be with!
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So am I racist because Latino women are hotter than all others…in my opinion?
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I only date men. Does that make me sexist?
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I’ve always gone for the opposite of my ethnicity. Fair, blue eyed, athletic boys….infact when my sister and I were young we made a pact that we wouldnt date any boys from the country our parents came from!
Small place….
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I don’t think it is racist to prefer another race. People are ot really that different to dogs. I prefer Jack Russels while others love Labridors. I don’t love all Jack Russels-? some are snappy little things but as a generalisation they do share attributes I value .
Why are people any different biology and genetics do play a role and some things will appeal more then others to some people. Culture also plays a role and some aspects of some culture may appeal more then others.
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I think it’s a great idea to date people from different racial background to your own. Much less chance of your lover turning out to be your long lost cousin, or brother you didn’t know about..
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I want to date people who are likeminded to me, meaning we should have similar interests, ideologies and probably culture.
I’m Eurasian, as in half Asian, half Caucasian, and I prefer to only date men who are both, or either. I couldn’t imagine myself working out with someone of Indian or European decent because I don’t think I could understand their culture and ideologies and them mine. I mean… it’s possible, but I just don’t think I’m as likely to get married to someone that was from a race that’s not Asian or Caucasian…
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I think it’s a great idea to go out with people of different races. Much less chance of them turning out to be your long lost cousin, or brother you didn’t know you had.
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Oh whatever. The majority of men I’ve dated have been black. I seem to be more attracted to black men and happen to meet them. I am not attracted to ALL black men and obviously they’re very diverse. I can be attracted to any man of any race but so far have been drawn towards black men for whatever reason. I have a black male friend who has only ever dated white women. I am attracted to people who are different to me and have had different backgrounds.
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Interesting article. I think you can’t help who you’re attracted to. I’m ONLY attracted to guys well taller than 6 ft, with dark hair – and preferably hairy. That means I’m much more likely to date greeks or aussies but less likely to date an asian or Indian man.
By that same token, I have to understand that some men are going to have preferences for certain features that might be common in a certain race, even if that race isn’t mine.
As a side note, I realise that I’ve only ever had boyfriends who were mixed race of some sort – maybe my subconcious is desperate to prove I’m not racist! (joke)
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I have a mate who lives in the States who only dates African American blokes. She is an ocker, white Aussie chick who has, on more than one occasion, been told to stick to her own kind and leave the black guys alone! These are black girls who think she should not be claiming one of “their” guys. Which I find quite an odd argument. Though she is the only person I know who will ONLY date a certain ethnicity.
Having said that, Im sure there was some research that I’ve read about that people have a tendency to be attracted to people who strangely look like themselves. When I read this previously, I actually agreed with it as my husband and I look very similar – to the extent that we have been mistaken for brother and sister!
And for the record, I have a tendency to date “white” guys, I’m not keen on preppy guys, I prefer dark hair, on the slightly “dirty grungy” side and, unusually, not tall guys. This is not an ethnicity preference, I have dated guys that were one or more of the above, but if you asked me my preference that’s what I would say. I never say “only” cause when I was single, I was happy to consider everything!
At the end of the day, I ended up marrying my “preferred” type.
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My daughter got told that by aboriginal girls when she dated an aboriginal guy years ago.
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Each to their own. If you’re attracted to a specific type of person, so what? It means there is someone for everyone. God help us if we all only wanted to date one type of person.
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I work for an online dating company that operates multiple niche dating sites for people with particular preferences for ethnicities. I PROMISE we’re not dodgy. (I know what people think of dating sites haha). Seeing as we have 100s of millions of members worldwide, I think I can safely say this preference for particular races is not something that is rare. Yes a lot of people join these sites based purely on stereotypes but I think a lot of members also join the sites simply because they know exactly what they want and who they’re attracted to. Ultimately, it’s about what makes the individual person happy.
Racist? Maybe. But I just look at it as another dating stereotype and there are plenty of those out there. If someone wants to date a person from a particular race/ ethnicity/ nationality/ planet only and it makes them happy – it’s not up to us to judge is it?
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I like to date Caucasian/European men, as I am sexually attracted to them. Why should I date an African, Asian or Indian man if I am not attracted to him? I have nothing against other cultures or races, there’s an Asian girl in my department and she’s hilarious. I just have no desire to have a relationship with a man from a different race.
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I find this comment a little strange. How you can be attracted to European men when Europe is so big and there are so many countries made up of so many different looking people. The majority of Swedish men look completely different to the majority of Greek men so are you attracted to all of them so long as they are from Europe?
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It’s pretty obvious that by ‘european/caucasian’ she means ‘white’.
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“I have nothing against other cultures or races, there’s an Asian girl in my department and she’s hilarious.”
You’re a regular Martin Luther King aren’t you?
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I saw that comment as well and thought oh here we go “I’m not racist, I have an Asian friend,” but in this instance she isn’t even a friend, she’s just hilarious.
The whole comment by anon just in case doesn’t sit well with me.
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I’m caucasian Australian, married to a Korean. We probably found each other as a result of his interest in caucasian women and mine in asian men but neither of us would say that is the only qualifying feature. He finds many white girls unnattractive as do I many Asian men. We married because we were very compatible. We love each other beyond appearance, we have a shared vision of the future we desire, shared values and dreams. A shared sense of humour.
Attraction is just a mere shell, a door handle. Beyond that is all the stuff that really matters.
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This is such a beautiful comment Sophie! It says everything I think needs to be said on this topic in a heartfelt way
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After living in Asia for about 5 years, a friend of mine only dates Asian girls now. He reckons he doesn’t have a preference, but every single girlfriend since returning to Oz has from an Asian country or of Asian heritage. He reckons it is coincidence.
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Damn it!!! Where were these guys with a preference for Asian girls when I was single???? lol. Im married to an amazing Aussie boy from Tassie now… Amazing, because of his incredibly kind and generous heart, and his ability to always make me laugh.
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I’m of Indian ethnicity, my family came from South Africa when I was 7, and I have lived in Sydney for 20+years.
When I was 19 I had my first boyfriend, who was Indian ethnicity and from Fiji. Culturally, as I had grown up in Australia (and was not unlike values my family & I had from South Africa) we didn’t mesh. I found he was a lot more traditional and would frequently say things that didn’t mesh with my value system and sometimes made me feel small. There were quite a few of his friends that I had exposure too that had similar values/bahviour. I had a strong physical attraction to him but when it didnt work out between us I realised I didn’t want to be a part of that culture. I since dated a few Aussie guys. My fiance is Australian (anglo saxon, born here, English descent etc) and we have similar values/beliefs and ideas. For me this is a good match. I know for me choosing not to date a particular group was due to past experiences, I fully appreciate what you are saying in the article though.
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do you live in manly?
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Nope, never lived there
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Sex with certain races are more exotic like with Indian and Africans. I have tried few male escorts and it was charming
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I went black and I came back. Glad to tick it off my list though, I no longer have ‘that’ curiousity. And, yes he was ‘big’ and yes, it was casual if you are wondering – no we were not dating. It wasn’t the best I’d ever had – not even close. I think he relied on his blackness to appeal to woman on his behalf, thus making him a little lazy in personality and technique.
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I’m Russian and I want to marry a Russian, so me and my children will be able to speak Russian at home, my husband won’t feel alienated at family gatherings nor will my family be uncomfortable having to speak English, etc. I will date non-Russian guys but it’s hard to imagine myself NOT marrying a Russian!
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… that’s not really what this article is commenting about…
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I don’t understand then why you would date other men if you know you don’t want to marry them, seems like a waste of both your time…
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Why would your family alienate someone who isn’t Russian?
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I thik what she meant is that people would be speaking to each other in Russian, & if her husband didn’t understand Russian, he’d probably feel alienated.
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My cousin only wants guys who are ‘euro’ (for want of a better term) – Italian, Spanish, Turkish…tall, dark, accented and preferably with a foreign sounding name. She WILL NOT go for any other type of guy. I find it is a little weird. I get that she likes tall, dark and handsome…and sure, who doesn’t like an accent (I particularly fall for Irish ones!) but to not go for any other type of guy is a bit limiting really.
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I don’t think it’s racist. On a basic level it’s the same as having a preference for blonds or brunettes, or a preference for someone who’s into sport rather than someone who’s into collecting bugs. It’s what (or what doesn’t) turns us on, which is important in terms of attraction, so it’s just human nature to be selective about these things.
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I don’t thinkg people can decide/change what they find attractive… but I agree it can be a bit creepy, especially when guys admit that it’s because Western women are too feminist
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I’ve read an article about why some women struggle to find decent men who want to commit to them. The general consesus from the men interviewed was that women are often too aggressive and have certain tick a box expectations regarding level of education, income, career has to be equal to or better than theirs etc…often so unrealistic no man could ever be good enough. Perhaps this ties in with reason why western women are no longer attractive to some men.
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so well said. this is something that has deeply bothered me for many years… I have been attracted to a number of men in the past and been rejected on the account of their absolute preference for Asian women…
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My 20 ear old son’s half brother admitted recently that the reason he only dates Asian girls is because they don’t age, but I suspect that there is also a certain quality of servility surviving still in Asian women. A servility that white Caucasian women of western culture dumped long ago.
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“A servility that white Caucasian women of western culture dumped long ago” wow i’m sorry, but i have to say that is an incredibly offensive statement when I consider the many Australian born/and or raised Asian women I know.
Many of them are feminists and many of them have shared experiences of combatting “yellow fever” stereotypes.
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Lots of men on the news.com.au blogs openly admit that this is why they want Asian women. They believe them to be more feminine, treat their men like Kings, serve them etc. They state that all western women are concerned with in a partner is their job status, income, assets and bad boys. If anyone is aware of where all these women are please let me know, in my friendship group most of the women are higher educated, earn more and date thoroughly decent guys because of who they are, not what they own.
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Yes, as someone who is Asian, what is foremost in my mind is how I can serve my lord and master.
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So I’m just curious if you’d say that to an Asian woman you met in real life, or if this is just an “I’m sitting behind my computer and can say whatever ignorant things I want because no one can see me” thing?
My sister and I were born into an Asian family that grew up in Australia, and let me tell you, her and some of her friends have spent many years trying to dispel this myth of Asian women bowing down to their ‘Western Masters’. She’s had a harder time in the dating game than I have because of this myth of subserviency that surrounds Asian women, and it’s ridiculous that she’d have to defend herself or provide “proof” of her Western upbringing to break down this stereotype.
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“I suspect that there is also a certain quality of servility”
And I suspect that this is a perception only.
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That “certain quality of servility” has been present in my home on many occasions and has been observed very carefully by me. One of my son’s half brothers married a Japanese girl, another half-brother has Chinese girlfriends consistently and I provide hospitality to them also. I don’t think the comment is offensive at all.
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So let me get this straight-you’ve carefully observed and so graciously provided hospitality to your son’s half brothers Japanese wife, and a string of another of your son’s half brothers Chinese girlfriends, and from this, you believe that all Asian women have a certain quality of servility?
Because if that’s not what you’re concluding then what are you trying to say?
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I feel that my original comment is quite clear on this. There may be a small proportion of Asian women who have escaped their culturally induced female servility. There is no shadow of doubt that it is culturally induced. That cultural induction has never been as strong in Australia. Is this clear enough now?
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It’s shocking to see how clearly you don’t realise this stereotype you’re pressing is harmful to Asian Australian women (and furthermore, modern Asian women) who present both their background and place of birth as their identity.
I personally don’t know any Asian women-Australian born/raised, or raised in East Asia who present as culturally subservient.
Instead I know many who are fiercely independent and vocal about women’s issues and the place of women in Asian cultures, trying to break down the expectations of Asian exoticism or subservience that they are generalised as in Western media and culture.
To say that your experiences with Asian women has led you to believe that the majority are culturally subservient, is to disregard the hard work done by modern Asian women in the business and political sectors; and the experiences of Asian women who have grown up in Western cultures. I am sure they wouldn’t appreciate your narrow mindedness.
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Having preferences is part of who we are. It means we know (to some degree) what we want. For example, I have a (slightly irrational) attraction to guys with strong jawlines. The key is to accept that our preferences could change depending on the other person. I’ve dated and even falled in love with someone outside what I would consider my “ideal”.
So I think preferences are fine, totally normal in face, but being aware and open to the fact that they can change is even better (and much more exciting).
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Reminds me of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Woman
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