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Imagine never going to school. Never having to wear a uniform or eat pre-packed lunches, never having to cover books in contact or having to carry a suitcase of books every morning .  Writer and blogger Kate Fridkis can’t imagine any other way.  She writes:

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“I didn’t go to preschool. And then I didn’t go to kindergarten. And after that I didn’t go to elementary school. Or middle school. Or high school, even. I was homeschooled.

I say “unschooled”, to differentiate myself from the 80% of homeschoolers who educate at home for religious reasons. And because we never really believed in text books. I was unschooled, and I felt really lucky.

People always ask me, “Which one of your parents taught you?”

That’s still the way everyone thinks about learning. There’s a teacher and a bunch of students. There’s an adult who knows more, and some kids who know less. And the adult stands there and tells the kids things. And the kids learn.

Neither one of my parents taught me, and, of course, they both did. Just as everyone’s parents teach them things about being alive. And skills for navigating the world. And to cover their mouths when they yawn. I learned how fun it is to sit and gossip for hours from my dad. From my mom, I learned the value of occasional ritualistic formality (requesting that everyone share something they’d like to improve about the world at a holiday gathering. Or having the gathering in the first place).

I learned how to make wildly creative sandwiches. I learned how to write thank-you notes. But most of the “Can you tell me what six times seven is” type of instruction stopped when I was twelve or so. After that, my mother’s role in my education was more like that of a guidance counselor. I checked in with her. We worked on various curricula that I mostly didn’t follow, because I had so many other books I wanted to read, and so many of my own, critically time-sensitive projects to complete.

People stopped me constantly, along the way, to ask me what my family did for lab. How did we get the equipment? It would’ve been a lot easier if I could’ve just said, “We don’t. We don’t do lab.” I mean, we looked at strands of our hair through a microscope and read biology books, so I probably could’ve, but I felt like the world might not be ready. So I said things about auditing college classes and local community-based opportunities.

You know, the community science lab, where little unschoolers can clock in all the hours they need with a genuine cow’s eyeball and a scalpel. There was a homeschooling resources catalogue that sold cows’ eyes. I said absolutely not. Absolutely, absolutely not. Mom thought it might be fun. She thought everything might be fun.

People stopped me to ask about socialization. That’s the big one. Can you talk to other people? Do you have friends? How weird are you? (Educated guess, their expressions said: probably pretty weird.) I especially loved it when they asked me if I could talk to other people when I had already been talking to them for fifteen minutes.

Here’s the good and bad news: I’m sort of normal. I spent a lot of time when I was younger pretending to be exceptional. It felt like the only way to justify my abnormal upbringing. I put on a show for every adult in sight, trying to prove that unschoolers weren’t just socially capable, we were all geniuses.

Kate on bike Unschooling: home schooling, the extreme version.

No one told Kate that this was a terrible, terrible outfit. Unschooling is great like that

College was not something it occurred to me to care terribly about. I already had this complete life. I was working, teaching regularly, writing terrible fantasy novels, and writing music. I didn’t have any interest in picking a single career path, and I didn’t see the point in sitting in a classroom, after all those years of avoiding just that.

But I went. It was almost as though my parents weren’t sure what happened at eighteen, other than college. They’d enabled me to come this far, on my own, but there was no question about me joining the schooled world eventually.

In college, I learned how to be bored for the first time. I know I’m supposed to talk about how enlightening the experience was. College always opens the world up for everyone. That’s practically its tagline: College: Opening Up The World.

I guess my world was too open already. I learned how stressful being good at something was. You have to stay ahead constantly. I learned how to doodle. Before then, I’d painted and sketched. But now I was doodling endless circles and swirls and stacks of bricks in the margins of notebook after notebook. And I forgot how to think that I could do more than one thing. I forgot how to be a homeschooler. And after a while, when I realized that, I missed it.

When they find out that I was unschooled, people ask me, “Did you like it?”

It’s such a simple question. Like, so, you had a forty-year career as a statistician. Did you like it? You walked on the moon, did you like it?

But then, some things are a lot simpler than they should be. When I asked my mom why she decided to unschool my brothers and I, she said, “I liked being around you.” People expect a massive critique of society, which she can also do, when she feels like it. But underneath that is something much more straightforward.

I think that people want homeschooling/unschooling to be incredibly complicated because school has become incredibly complicated. Education has become a messy, chaotic topic that we, as a nation, can’t stop talking about. “Waiting for Superman”, budget cuts, teen suicides, charter schools, healthier school lunches, colleges flooded with applications, student debt, student loans that go forever, elite preschools, KIPP, abstinence only sex ed, gay kids at prom, no child left behind, teachers’ unions, rubber rooms, standardized testing, teacher suicides, cutting music and art classes, where it all is going, what we might be able to do, whether we should do it, and if it really works at all.

And then there are the people who drop out. The people who don’t start in the first place. People like me. We’re still a tiny minority — about 3% of the population, according to some studies (the exact numbers are never really clear). But we have a lot to say about education. And even when we don’t say anything at all, our lives speak for us.

When people ask if I liked it, I always say yes. Of course I liked it! I got to sleep until ten! What’s not to like? I didn’t get graded! I didn’t take any standardized tests before the SAT. I didn’t ever have to raise my hand. I wore ridiculous outfits, and no one told me they were ridiculous. I thought I was beautiful. I learned about things just because I was interested in them. Everyone should try it!

I, for one, am planning on unschooling my own kids if/when I have them.

It’s not a simple world. Not everyone who wants to has the economic ability to homeschool, especially not with very young children. And sometimes, when I’m being very mature and serious, or moping, or feeling insecure, or feeling like a total realist, I think that it’s not clear to me exactly what parts of myself I gained from school (college, grad school) and what I gained from unschooling. It’s all mixed together now.

I do know though, with completely certainty, that I liked myself a lot more as an unschooler. I thought I had more potential. I thought I could do anything, and I was excited about it. Maybe learning that you can’t do anything is just a part of growing up. But maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s a part of being schooled.”

Would you homeschool if you had the option? Could you?  How did you feel about your own schooling experience?

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    Jessi

    I was homeschooled from year 8. Now, at 21, I am married, own my own business and have 5 different qualifications. No one is unqualified to teach their own children, children already have a thirst to learn and along the way you get to learn also.

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    Craig

    One thing we hear about often is how teachers should be paid more to attract better trained and higher quality educators, and to keep those currently in the system from more lucrative jobs. Home schooling seems to be the complete opposite attitude, trusting someone likely to be totally unqualified and with little experience to prepare your children for the rest of their lives. A big risk. You end up like that girl with the cement injected into her butt.

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    SK

    The only people I know who were home schooled are a family of five and from what I hear while they did quite well when they sat exams etc only one has reached beyond year 9 level and before ‘dropping out of school’. . One has a job at KFC, three others are on benefits and the last one actually went to a public school this year (Year 9) and after a few months of feeling uncomfortable is doing really well and hopes to go to Uni. sometimes I guess it depends on the kid? not sure that I would want to home school… gosh, I just don’t think I am qualified. The toddler asked me what space was the other day… given it was out of the blue and I wasn’t sure of the context I had to get back to him once I had a bit of a think about it! LOL

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    Flossy

    I think if you had a happy time through those years of your life you will believe that is the best way to go regardless. I’m sure there are kids who had a dreadful time at school and kids who had a dreadful time at home. I know adults of both homeschooled, public school and private school backgrounds and they all seem to achieve what they want. And of course those who don’t. I never put it down to the type of education they recieved as to why they are not achieving . I put it down to environment/support structure/love/values etc.

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    Katie

    Teachers are qualified, trained professionals….If I were in trouble with the law…I would be seeking out a lawyer, if I am sick, I would go to the doctor…Yes, I see why some people would appreciate home schooling, however if it were my children, i’d be leaving that to the people who have studied for 3- 4 years and are fully trained and qualified for the job…

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    Anonymous

    great article.
    although i take point with your last line.
    i grew up ‘schooled’ and thought i could do anything. i only became disenchanted within first 5 yrs in work force. so perhaps it IS just growing up! xx

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      michaelasmith

      Exactly. It’s that whole ‘teenagers think they know everything and think they’re invincible’ phase. When reality strikes you realise you know a lot less than you thought, and are not as capable as doing anything, like you once thought.

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    Anonymous

    What? Keep them at home with me when I don’t HAVE to? Are you MAD???

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      Anonymous

      haha this is what i was also thinking!

      first i was like – ohh imagine all the amazing things we could do, things i could teach them, travels…
      then i was like – ummm when would i clean the house?, have me time, earn money, stay sane?…

      … and i don’t even have kids yet
      xx

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    Jolene

    I have very mixed feelings about un/home-schooling. Granted my parents chose not to send my siblings and I to school for religious reasons, but then we didn’t follow a strict curriculum either so I do consider myself somewhat unschooled. For reasons I can’t get into, I also didn’t have the opportunity to go to uni at the time either.

    Fast-forward a decade or so and I’ve put myself through uni, and despite initial insecurity due to my lack of formal education, I’m a relatively quick learner and ended up doing quite well. Like others have pointed out, I do sometimes feel out of place for the lack of shared experience with the majority of those around me. As I did quite well academically and always was so inclined, I can’t help but wonder how I would have gone if I’d had the opportunities in education that I did not when I was younger.

    Interestingly I’ve been stressing lately about where to send my daughter to high-school, wanting to give her the best opportunities in life. But then I think back on my own experience of skipping high school completely and it helps put things in perspective.

    I’ve put my own children into school and would not consider home-schooling them. I feel there is plenty of time to teach my kids and allow them to discover and do do all those wonderful things, to gain the benefits of “unschooling” during the time they are at school.

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    Jess

    I went to a steiner school from K-12 and I never sat a formal exam until the SAT. I loved uni because I enjoyed having the pressure of exams as it was something that was so foregin to me. I have not been held back by not completing the HSC but the first few years after finishing school i felt like i had somehow “missed out” by not going through something 99% of the population have experienced. Today at 23, i don’t feel like i have missed out and i know i have gained alot more by having an “untraditional” education than i would have having gone to a “normal” school.

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    PinkLizzy

    I homeschool my kids. I can’t quite bring myself to unschool so we use a Christian curriculum and deconstruct it as much as we can.

    Homeschooling your children is awesome and hard work. I really really like me kids. We have so much fun together. They’re kind, thoughtful and generous. They’re fabulously busy and have so many tents to build, books to read and sports to play.

    I cannot recommend homeschooling and unschooling enough. I don’t understand why it’s more popular.

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      PinkLizzy

      “I really really like me kids”

      Ha! This is what I get for posting pre-morning coffee. The grammar of a stereotypical hillbilly.

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    nursemim

    I am rather late to this discussion- but its refreashing to read so many positive opinions and experiences surrounding homeschooling!! I was homeschooled up until year 10. Frequent questions I get include- were your parents teachers? How did you learn social skills? Didn’t you struggle acaedemically?
    Personally, I loved being homeschooled. I was a chronic insomniac, so would wake up at 4am, start studying, and be done by lunchtime, and have the rest of the day to do whatever I wanted. Neither of my parents were teachers, but both are tertiary educated, both speak three differnet languages each (had the oppurtunity to learn French, German, Maltese, Italian and Latin), and did a pretty amazing job teaching me and my brother. Social skills wise, we still did “extra cirricular” activities, my brother did Kung Fu, soccar, Scouts, I dod karate and horseriding, and we made friends, both homeschooled kids and regular (for want of a better word) schooled kids. From an academic point of view, I got average grades at college, struggled with maths and excelled an literature (as I always have). After college I went to uni to get a Bachelor of Nursing, and have since done my Masters. So I think Mum and Dad have done pretty well!!
    In saying that, I’m not sure I wouls be able to homeschool my own children, its hard work and requires a lot of discipline for parent and child alike. So big kudos to those amazing home schooling parents out there!!

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    Verity

    Interesting story to read, especially for myself as I can relate directly to many of the points made by Kate, for example I have been never been to a school in my life. Well I have visited the local school approx a dozen times to sit various classical piano theory exams. Geez those two hour visits every couple of years were funny. The closest I’ve ever come to a standard classroom.
    But my experience does differ slightly from Kate’s account. Just in regards to structure I believe. But it sounds as though the outcomes have been the same for the both of us.
    So I’ve been completely schooled by my mother, and as this is one of the many questions people tend to ask, no she isn’t a qualified teacher.
    And no, it wasn’t a set or registered government curriculum.
    Mum sourced her own curriculum from various American and Australian Christian homeschooling organisations.
    She organised our learning, kept records, conducted our exams, and issued certificates, proudly issued by our father with a photo taken of him handing the certificate over and shaking our hands.
    Our hands? Yes i am the eldest of eight. Two of my brothers choose to go to high school, however Mum is still homeschooling the last three boys, as my youngest brother is just 11. My brothers and sister are all normal well educated individuals, well most of the time that is!!
    Now I have no formal recognition by the state or federal government although I was schooled to a year 12 equivalent. So I took myself to TAFE and completed a Cert III in General Adult Education. It took me 6 months, and was equivalent to a Year 10 .
    After that, I completed I took one a 12 month traineeship for a Cert IV in Business Admin, and completed that in 6 months.
    Then i moved to the big smoke, knocked back a half a dozen job offers in one day (liberating experience!) and took a job in the Public Service.
    Now I am 24 years of age, employed fulltime in a well-known federal government agency as a team leader, I have been accepted into university and am currently studying externally.
    So have I been ripped off by not attending school? Has my education effected my career or study options? I’ve only just got started in my career, I love my work. Have I been socially damaged? I believe all the wonderful people I call my friends would say I am able to socialise just fine.
    So my final thoughts on my homeschooling experience – It’s the bomb. I love you Mum and Dad.

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    lauren91

    I personally always loved the social side of school. I made some fantastic friends who will remain so for life. Sure, the homework and assignments were a pain, but um, isn’t that life?

    I also learned some very important lessons that had nothing to do with textbooks. Like how to deal with bullying, for example. Bullying doesn’t just stop existing once you graduate, and I think that is one of the most valuable things a person can learn in school.

    I would definately send my kids to school, I think it’s important for kids to learn how to socialise and deal with life situations. While I can see benefits of homeschooling, I think the benefits of learning in an environment that better represents how the majority of people live their lives are stronger.

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    Jemma

    Fantastic article! Great to hear “from the horse’s mouth”.

    We are planning to homeschool our kids when they are of school age. I can’t wait, I think it will be a great adventure.

    I don’t like the idea of sending my kids to school and someone else raising them and spending heaps of time with them. I don’t want to miss any of my kid’s milestones. I want to be the main influence on my kids – not a teacher, who is just a stranger.

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      KatLizzy

      As a former teacher of young children (years Prep, One and Two), I take a little offence at being called a ‘stranger’ and disagree with the phrase “someone else raising them”. It still remains the parent’s responsibility to raise their children and instill in them values, morals and knowing the difference between right and wrong.
      The kids I taught became such an important part of my life and I grew to love many of them. I know I was an integral part of their development, educational, social and emotional development and an important piece of their little worlds. Being a teacher – especially a teacher of small children is one of the most rewarding and heart warming things you can experience.
      I have since left the teaching profession but I miss the hugs I got every morning and the ‘excitement’ of seeing a child’s pet ant and most of all, that miraculous moment they realise they have learnt something and can do it all by themselves.

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        Sarah

        I can understand the excitement of being a teacher, alot of my friends and family are teachers, quite successful ones. In regards to being a ‘stranger’; a teacher will be a stranger until my child gets to know them better. And granted in the education system there are some really superb teachers. Some are not. But you have just explained above what a homeschooling Mum/Dad wants to achieve in their childs life… To be the integral part of their development, educational, social and emotional development and the important piece of their little worlds and that miraculous moment they realise they have learnt something and can do it all by themselves. I feel very strongly that it is important that I am the one who educates my children, but no offence to the many wonderful teachers out there. Bullying and all the other ‘social’ aspects that come with schooling are dealt with by teachers differently to how some parents would deal with it. So there are conflicting views of morals, values and right and wrong behavior. My values, morals and knowledge between right and wrong are quite different to the teachers. I was formally educated not by one teacher but in upwards of 10 teachers, (one for each year of primary school, and then the many teachers you have with different subjects in high shool), each having their own style of teaching and their own way of discipling disruptive students (if there was any discipline at all). Home schooling provides one way. There are no differing views between teachers, it’s just Mums or Dads view, which if everybody’s house hold is like mine, usually is Mums! haha.

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          Nic 73

          But isn’t it good for a child to be exposed to differing points of view and opinion? It is important for kids to respect all different types of people and learn the value of respect and understanding. We cannot be around them forever, and the skills a school environment can teach them is valuable for a lifetime.

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          popcornandcandy

          “And granted in the education system there are some really superb teachers. Some are not.”

          Likewise, there are some really superb parents who can teach their children. Then again, some struggle. Those less superb teachers usually don’t realise they aren’t so superb. How many parents who home-school their children see themselves as mediocre? The assumption seems to be that all home-schooling parents are doing a flawless job.

          As a high school teacher, I have seen students enter the education system after years of home schooling. I saw a set of very intelligent twins enter the system in Year 11. Verbally, they expressed a great deal of knowledge. However, their literacy skills were incredibly weak (primary school level). Their parents were responsible people who had instilled wonderful values in their children – though I could say this about most of the other children at the school. Unfortunately, home schooling set these students behind other students their age because their parents were unable to teach them how to write. Please be aware of your own ability to instruct your children if you are thinking about home-schooling or unschooling.

          In any form of schooling, there will be educators who shine over others. It would be naive to automatically think you will do a better job just because you are taking control of your child’s learning from home.

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    Melissa

    I love the theory behind un-schooling and would love to do it for my kids, but I just wouldn’t have the energy! Mind you, my oldest starts school in a year and I may have summoned up the energy by then. Good on you to all parents who do it!

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    Sarah

    I think that everybody should be educated…properly. I understand that this can be done through homeschooling or distance ed. but the description that the Kate has given of her time at home being “schooled” worries me.
    Personally, I wasn’t the biggest fan of school; the uniform, the getting up early etc etc. but it gave me a desire to learn, to KNOW.
    The argument here would be that I would have found that desire anyway. WRONG. I’m lazy. School made me pay attention, and I did, and I realised that I liked learning.
    I’m now in my third year of university, wanting desperately for it not to end because I love spending lectures talking about Libya and everything else.
    school is only 7 hours a day, there’s plenty of time to learn from your parents, to be schooled in cooking and common sense kind of things. I know I was, they just didn’t take place between 8-3.

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    Gig

    In exceptional circumstances, and with an exceptional parent(s), homeschooling should be the better choice. But for the run of the mill, I reckon it’s best to muck in with the other kids. This way you are guaranteed of receiving wanted, and unwanted, lessons in socialisation as you grow up. No amount of interacting with adults can compare to mixing with those other bastard kids in the playground. It’s brutal! But it does you good. It teaches you that you aren’t the most important person in the world.

    It also teaches you to make friends without your parent’s scrutiny. Some of them your parents will like, some they will be horrified about. Either way, you will be learning to integrate others into your social sphere without looking over your shoulder for Mum’s approval.

    Aside from giving Mum, or Dad, a break for a few hours each day, you will gain that sense of independence that only comes from being, well, independent, even for those few hours when you are away from your parents.

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    Claire

    An article in the recent Melbourne’s CHild discusses a family who are ‘part-time schooling’, the young child (I think about grade one) is attending school three days a week and they are homeschooling the remainder of the time.

    I would love to consider this option and think it should be encouraged more in local schools.

    This would still give my child all the things socially I think school can offer, and access to resources and the wider community in which they live. It would allow me to still have three days to do my work, earn income for our family etc.

    The other two days could be filled with such adventures, learning experiences, excursions, travel, following the exact interests of my child.

    The perfect balance for me.

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    Kym

    I gather this is an American post, due to the reference to the prom, or has this become an Australian term lately?

    Personally I would not trade the fantastically stimualting and varied academic, sporting, cultural and social environment my children currently enjoy at our local Catholic school. Each to their own. We give our children every experience we can on our farm, but there are some experiences we cannot give them and some areas where we prefer those who have educated themselves to be teachers to undertake the teaching. We like and trust these individuals.

    I could probably relate to this story more if it was Australian, and feel the need to point out that the choice to home school is different to distance eduation, where families have no choice due to their geographical location. Distance education is undertaken in Australia where families have no local access to school.

    Home school is conducted in Australia by those families who have access to local schools but choose not to use them. A local family we know home schools because the mother is a teacher and feels she can educate her children better than the local teachers in the schools can. That’s their choice – thier children are delightful and intelligent individuals.

    I am not a teacher. I respect the work teachers do in the school environment, I support that with home reading and every other opportinity we can provide and I trust this is the best situation for my children.

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      Anon

      You can choose to do distance education if you’ve got a school right next door. At least you can here in Queensland, I’m not sure about the other states. The difference is that your child has a teacher who sets the curriculum and you, the parent, are essentially just a supervisor. With home-education the parent comes up with the lessson plans and does all the work.

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        Kym

        OK – Qld is different to NSW then.

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    Anonymous

    I think the option of educating a child is up to the parents. My 15 year old daughter has spent the past three years 7-10 achieving high marks via distance education. She now attends school for half her subjects in preparation for years 11 and 12. My very attractive and lovely daughter is enjoying being back at school for the social side and has made lovely new friends, however, through working at home she is self-disciplined and motivated and she knows what she can achieve without disruption of dysfunctional children. She has been rewarded at this high school and has been placed in A classes according to her exam results so now does not have to worry about not being “allowed” to achieve. I think just do whatever works but be prepared to put in the hard yards to ensure your child has access to friends, tutors and the outside world. It is worth the effort!

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    Anonymous

    I don’t feel I have the expertise (or patience!) to homeschool and luckily my children go to a fantastic rural private school where the classes in primary school are around 20 students. The curriculum is rich, stimulating and varied, the teachers are without exception fantastic and no child is left behind or not allowed to extend themselves if and when it is needed. For me, I feel there is no way I could match that at home. I can see though that if you only had terrible schools in your area and had the patience and skills to homeschool that you might choose that option.

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    ciannait

    My ex partner, the father of my three sons is an avid unschooler (in theory), though as he says he works 20 hours a day, and doesnt eat unless someone puts food in front of him. he says he would unschool our kids if i would just leave them with him. clearly, to me at least, it wouldnt be in their interests to do this, so i dont.
    somehow i keep having to justify to myself (and him) why i wont unschool my kids myself, as it is impossible for me to contemplate. i love my kids, but i dont want to spend every day with them all day. i want a job and a life that doesnt include them for bits of it.
    i am not happy with the school system, and i dont know anyone who honestly says they loved being at school, particularly not boys it seems. some girls love being with their friends so much it makes it all worth it, but nobody loves school.
    my problem with it is that there isnt enough self directed learning, the use of discipline too archaic, and too much focus on outcomes (for the purposes of becoming good workers in the end) rather than enjoyment of learning. i can see why they dont enjoy their experience of school.
    at the same time, i dont know where else to send my kids. even private schools have many of the same problems, if i could afford the fees.
    i’d say that most of the teachers i have met have all had their hearts in the right place and believe that they are helping kids, and society. perhaps all that is needed is some training in how not to speak threateningly to children so they will listen, and respect you. and maybe the system needs to change, to be a little less outcome oriented.
    i dont know how to do it, but i do know that my eldest son simply refuses to go to any class he doesnt want to go to. so right now i am coaching him myself, at school (which is boring and tiring for him and i), hoping that one day i can just leave him there for the whole day. he is 8. the twins (5 years), grumble that they dont know why they have to go while he gets to stay at home. i have no answer.

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      Kate Geikowski

      I loved school. Just loved it. Loved the learning and loved the social aspect. I have 3 children – 2 of whom you really really have to MAKE stay home if they are ill. One is a 16yo boy and the other a 12 yo girl. My middle child (who is 15) doesn’t love school but still gets himself there every single day.

      Also, try as I might, I seriously can’t understand how an 8 year old is able to refuse to go to school/class? No wonder his siblings are grumbling about it.

      It is a matter of discipline. Outlining what you expect from your child ie ‘I expect you to go to school and each and every class, in turn you can expect me to put your dinner on the table in the evening.’ Works for my 3.

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        Alice Bramble

        I agree. My kids LOVE school.

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        Kris2040

        I loved school too.

        And why does your 8 year old get to stay home? I agree with the twins. Aren’t you the Mum, ciannait??

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      Rara

      I would suggest that if you have teachers who are speaking threateningly to your child that you find a news one (teacher and school that is). 99 per cent of teachers are professional and hard working and do not tend to speak in a “threatening” manner. There are better choices in public and private systems.

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      michaelasmith

      I loved school! I loved the social side of it sure, but I also loved learning. Now in my second year at Uni, I still love learning. My brother wasn’t ever a big learner, and not really the academic type but he loves school too.
      I can completely understand where the twins are coming from. It is unfair that the 8yo can stay home and dictate what he wants, whereas they are being ignored. Maybe that’s why you have no answer?

      My siblings and I (my brother and sister are both still at school) were only ever allowed to stay home if we were sick, because from a very young age we were told – “You have to go to school. That’s the law. Mum and Dad have to work, kids go to school” and that’s the way life is.
      As Kate said, it definitely is a matter of discipline. Children need boundaries and need to be told what to do. Condoning, or encouraging their lack of desire for school is a gateway to encouraging a lack of work ethic, in my opinion.

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    Tessie

    When it comes to school I really believe that not every teaching evironment suits every child and if you know your child, you’ll know what is best for them. If that means homeschooling then that’s great.

    We need diversity and different approaches in life and that’s the great benefit of everyone NOT doing the same thing. One thing homeschooling teaches really well is open-mindedness and not to limit yourself and that is a really good thing.

    Traditional school on the other hand offers different social opportunites and a well rounded education that is hard to achieve at home.

    Either way, choosing one or the other means knowing your child and helping them in the best way you can as a parent.

    I know a family who did homeschooling for one year and then sent the child off to traditional school the next year for 4 days a week and is planning on homeschooling a year or two again in the future. Choosing one at any one time doesn’t mean you can never go back to the other. The child is doing beautifully and is very happy with the year she had last year and is off to a great year this year.

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    Gee

    How does homeschooling work in Australia once children reach senior high school age? As in, do homeschooled students still do the HSC/VCE etc.?

    I completed the HSC a few years ago and I’m apprehensive about whether such a rigorous syllabus (albeit, depending on which subjects you choose) can really be taught by parents who may only be qualified in one particular field.

    I mean 3 and 4 unit maths in year 12 is quite intense, as is the extension modern history course, physics and chemistry. So i’m not sure how these students would be able to keep up with their peers…?

    Or is homeschooling just a primary level thing…?

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      Carolyn

      I answered this question down the thread somewhere, am not sure if all students do the same but the homeschooled kids I know did the university entrance exams. They had no need to do the HSC.
      My daughter hasn’t done the HSC either, she did the tert preparation course at TAFE instead.
      If you want to go to university there are a lot of ways to get there.

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      Melissa

      My partner and his sister both completed year 12 through homeschooling.

      Their mum followed an American (Christian) curriculum and they did exams to get a year 12 certificate.

      My bf decided not to go onto uni but to vocational study and did the usual Maths, Science etc as well as pursuing his own interests and getting a Certificate III in cartooning when he was about 16 and a diploma in journalism as well through a private college. He did exams and got a year 12 certificate.

      His sister got the year 12 certificate then did an extra exam to get an ENTER. She is now in her fourth year of medical school and completed all prerequisite subjects through the homeschooling curriculum.

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        Petal

        Amazing!

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        PinkLizzy

        Same here. We all did homeschooling through high school.
        Now I’m raising children (and homeschooling with my husband’s help) while I run a business, another sister is working full time, another is going to tafe full time and my brother is finishing high school.

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      Angela

      I am a teacher in a senior high, so I can answer this with confidence:

      Students doing the HSC and Preliminary (yr 11) courses can do this via the Open High School (OHS), which is part of the public school system. Work is set by qualifed teachers who have a ‘class’ of students. It’s posted out in packages, either to the home direct or to the school if the student is attending part-time. The student completes the work package and sends it back in by a deadline. The teacher checks the work and provides feedback to the student regularly by phone. Sometimes, students are able to travel into the OHS centre to meet with their teacher and other students for practical work.
      Just like normal school, the OHS sets assignments, due dates and will follow N-Award procedures for students who are not completing work.
      The OHS has provided great flexibility for some of my students who couldn’t attend school full time for health reasons, or who wanted to study a topic not offered at the school, foreign languages in particular.

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    Bunny

    I was someone who was labelled as ‘gifted’ throughout school, but eventually fell apart at the seams. I got bored – most teachers couldn’t cater to my abilities or interests individually, with a classroom full of other children to deal with, so I disengaged. Add into the mix untreated inattentive ADD, a very particular learning style, bullying from staff and students, and school was an utterly miserable experience for me. It is quite sad to compare the bright, imaginative, enthusiastic child who adored learning ANYTHING with the jaded, apathetic person I was even by Grade 6.

    My partner and I had similar experiences: both have inattentive ADD (predisposition to which is genetic), both were identified early as gifted but faced stigma and lack of opportunity, and we both have a very similar spread of where our intelligence lies. All of which are not conducive with the environment offered by the current school system. In all likelihood, we might end up with children with the same sorts of issues. In that case – how could I justify sending them to a conventional school setting after knowing what it did to us when there could be an alternative in homeschooling?

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      Bunny

      Another thing is.. I have encountered a lot of teachers. I have a number of primary and secondary teachers in my family, I have experienced Australian primary school and high school teachers, as well as specialist teachers at a European-style international school in Asia. I also started an education degree and met the ‘next generation’ of teachers, as well as current teachers when I had to do rounds.

      All I can say is that while some of these teachers were inspirational, dedicated and wonderful, some were morons who had no knowledge of what they were teaching, some were bullies, and some were completely ignorant to the damage they were doing to certain children. The same could be said of parents who choose to homeschool. So I really don’t think there is a ‘right’ option for everybody.

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      KateEm

      I understand your concerns about your future children because in all likelihood, they will test as ‘gifted’ on the spectrum. I think what you need to remember is just because you and your husband had bad experiences, doesn’t mean that your children will. They will be different to you in personality and they will have different teachers, hopefully educators who will be able to let them stretch and grow.

      My eldest tested at the age of 6 as highly gifted. He is turning 17 this year and in year 11. His small, Catholic primary school really couldn’t support his academic needs however, his social needs were wonderfully met. I am also thankful that his personality is such that he did not play up out of boredom – he was allowed to read; he was the technical guy from Grade 2 for the whole school – if any teacher had a problem with computers, overhead projectors etc – he was the go-to-guy. Even the kids would say ‘ask S to help’ and he would be given the job.

      Secondary school was a blessing too. He was selected to go through a SEAL (select entry accelerated learning) program in our fabulous public high school. He found a cohort of 23 like-minded kids that he has been with his whole secondary life. He has enjoyed his schooling thoroughly.

      I am telling you his/our story because there ARE positives out there in ‘education land’ for the highly gifted in my experience.

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        Bunny

        Thank you for sharing, KateEm – glad your son enjoys school so much! I know the ‘gifted’ programs exist, but I have to admit I’m not too convinced of their merits. I was actually in a selective entry accelerated program in my high school and found myself the lone language/creative-centric intellect in a class full of students who were exceptional at maths and science based subjects. So, I guess it was another type of not fitting in!

        I’m still doing heaps of research though on different educational methods though. A school near me (secondary only though) offers something they term a ‘vertical curriculum’, where each subject can be taken at whatever level is required; i.e. taking year 9 maths class and then year 12 english, etc.

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          Kris2040

          I test pretty evenly in both – apparently this is why I write good essays – because I have the language strength but also have the maths/science brain to organise things logically!
          I lean more towards the language/humanities talent though, and I think that is possibly harder to quantify than maths talent is – kids who can easily do 4U maths are easier to mark and see their marks than kids who are good at understanding literature and languages.
          I did a version of the vertical curriculum you mention in Infants – went to the year above me for reading and maths, and did other stuff with my own class. And then when I hit Year 3 I was in a 4/3 class, where we had our own maths books but if I recall did everything else with the Year 4 kids. LOVED it!

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    amandarose

    Being from Tasmania growing up I know alot of home schooled kids. Tasmania seems to attact a bit of alterativeness.

    Most of them were religious, very wacky families. I’m sure they got teased alot less being at home. This was the 80′s and 90′s and living in a rural area of Tasmania most families were self sustainable before it was trendy. so I guess they had alot to learn on the farm aswell as the wacky religious stuff( seriously my family was wacky too- an a bit religious but not in the not cutting hair, long dresses no tv or music way). I learnt alot form these families and kids and loved visiting.
    why wouldn’t I we swam in the dams and fed baby sheep and ate berries off the bushes.

    Having said that the kids- all my age have become kids of feral, as in drug taking, shop lifting drop outs.

    Ipersonally can see the benefits of running free and learning form a love of it.

    But I’m to lazy and cannot afford not to work so my kids wll be schooled. But in my heart of hearts I think school is a crazy concept- kids should be learning with there parents in an ideal world, not hearded together to bully and tease and conform. It is he conforming I hate.

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      Anon

      I grew up in Tasmania too! My family was in the Exclusive Brethren (long dresses/hair, no tv etc) At that time the E.B’s didn’t have their own schools as they do now. Instead they had one particular state school they sent all their kids too whether they lived in the catchment or not. My parents chose to send me to a different school and I am so glad they did. I did feel very lonely much of the time and I was teased about the long dresses on free dress days but the up-side was I was exposed to ‘normal’ children. Home life was so weird that without school I would have had no exposure to normal life. I learnt so much about families outside of the Brethren and how other kids lives were that I never would have learnt otherwise. Mostly I learnt not to be afraid of other people. We were taught from a very young age to be afraid of people who weren’t in the Brethren. But going to school with them every day I could see that they were no different to me. So all in all I think that in spite of the teasing sometimes it is better to stay in the main-stream schools.

      P.S. we swam in dams and fed baby sheep – and rabbits – and picked blackberries too. Such a great place to grow up. Feel a bit sad for my kids living in Brisbane that they don’t get to do those sorts of things.

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        Chrissy

        If you dont mind me asking are you and your family still in the EB?

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          Anon

          My grandparents left first, then my parents (while we were still kids) were kicked out for socialising with my grandparents which isn’t allowed. Most of our extended family have now left. I wouldn’t be on here if I was still in – accessing the internet is a big no-no.

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            ClaireC

            Where I live has a large Brethren population and their own school – on one hand I find them disturbing, on the other hand fascinating. I was behind one Brethren lady in the supermarket queue the other day and she was quite chatty, and buying the Sun newspaper, she’d also been talking on her mobile phone. Perhaps the ones around us are more liberal. I’ve just read David Tchappat’s book about his escape from the Brethren – your family were very courageous to leave.

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    Kate

    I don’t actually think there is a legitimate argument to be had over weather or not unqualified parents at home can have the same educational impact as teachers in a school context.

    Furthermore, it’s extremely unfair to deprive a child from feedback, praise and criticism from adults who are NOT THEIR PARENTS.

    By virtue of thinking you can teach without actually being a trained, skilled teacher, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the complexity of teaching and learning.

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      Melissa

      Actually, studies show there is a legitimate argument that home schoolers do as well or better than their schooled students.

      Most homeschooled students are not deprived of feedback from non-parental teachers, as parents supplement their childs education with outside classes, tutors, co-ops etc.

      Many home schooling parents have a good understanding of the complexities around teaching and learning. Many of us are experienced home educators with successful graduates.

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        anon

        Do as well or better on what criteria? There are a range of outcomes in life, not all of them easily assessable. A sense of self, independence and resilience are all important components to a life well lived. Few studies assess these or even comment on them. School is one way of enhancing these as long as school is compassionate and aware of children’s psychosocial needs as well as academic ones. Home schooling makes some of these harder as it isn’t until they are adults that they start to really learn to be independent. And this takes most of us years. I’d hate to start at 18.

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          Susan

          As you said, school is ONE way of socialising, learning, etc. I had two children in mainstream school and one in distance ed. All of them function well socially and the homeschooled child’s friends outnumber the others by miles. It’s a real myth that school is absolutely crucial to a child’s social abilities.

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      Hear Mum Roar

      That’s really funny, I remember when I transferred my daughter from homeschool to public school, her teacher had nothing but positive feedback about her progress. She was ahead of what was being taught in class. His only gripe was that she needed to learn to sit cross legged, put her hand up to answer questions, and no, she couldn’t wander off to paint during maths time! lol. She figured these things out within the next day or two and was fine.

      Sorry Kate, but we must’ve done something right;)

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      clarinette

      “I don’t actually think there is a legitimate argument to be had over weather (seriously? weather as in rain or shine?i know it’s: whether, and i’m French…);or not unqualified parents at home can have the same educational impact as teachers in a school context.”

      Well starting like that doesn’t make for a balanced discussion does it?

      “Furthermore, it’s extremely unfair to deprive a child from feedback, praise and criticism from adults who are NOT THEIR PARENTS”
      I’m not sure what difference it makes , when you make a mistake, you need guidance, not criticism in my book, mistakes are a good way to learn. But when you make a mistake in front of people who are “NOT YOUR PARENTS” ie: don’t care as much about you, well, sometimes those people can impair your ability to learn by not understanding why you made the mistake, and what’s the best way to teach YOU how to not make the mistake again, or by not having the time to make sure you understood because yeah, there’s 29 other kids in there, you’re not alone here.

      “By virtue of thinking you can teach without actually being a trained, skilled teacher, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the complexity of teaching and learning.”

      well, using “by virtue” in a gramatically incorrect way doesn’t make your argument valid…
      I would say , thinking you are able to teach your children without being a trained (skilled is another matter) , teacher, demonstrates…self assurance?
      There is no more complexity in teaching a child how to read than there is in teaching them how to use a spoon correctly and potty train them, and we all did those :)

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        Kate

        If you’re going to get picky about spelling and grammar you should use capital letters! Yes it was a mistake as I clearly meant “whether.”

        For the record, the use of the term “virtue” was correct in this context. Perhaps look it up? I would also re-read your post as you’ve made quite a few other mistakes clarinette (with a small c). “There is 29 other kids” should actually be ‘there are 29 kids.’

        Anyway, I’m just being silly now. It’s a blog and people are typing quickly and passionately and are bound to make some errors!

        My opinion remains unchanged! In terms of criticism, this is not really in reference to when a student makes a mistake in their learning. There are other times at school (as there are in life) when a student/person needs to be made aware of themselves and not always because of something positive they have done. I don’t believe parents are always the best person to provide this feedback.

        Relationships between parents and children can be very complex and often behaviours present themselves when parents aren’t around.

        Criticism is healthy as is not being with your parent/child 24 hours a day!

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          clarinette

          ah, well, Kate with a capital K, i don’t think there’s a legitimate argument to be had over who is right and who is wrong here :)
          Before entering this conversation, i should have remembered something: you are a teacher, firm believer in society’s hammered dogmas such as “socialization is good for you” and i am….autistic. Social dogma-proof.
          We can never come to an agreement , on this or grammar (by/in virtue of:
          On the grounds or basis of; by reason of: “well-off by virtue of a large inheritance” ok, gramatically correct, but makes no sense in your sentence), and i believe it is fine and we can both live with it, as long as we’re not married to each other :)

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            anon

            Unfair to autistic people….

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          Melissa

          Kate, I think you are not hearing what some of us have been saying. The majority of home school students are not with their parents 24/7.

          The majority of h/s students have the opportunity to spend time learning from non-parental teachers/tutors/coaches on a regular basis. This includes receiving constructive criticism on their performance or behaviour.

          Most long-term homeschooling parents are keenly aware that spending some time apart, especially as a child grows, is good for the mental health of parent and child and go out of their way to facilitate that.

          Imo, parents are often the best people to recognise issues with their children, especially in the small group setting that h/s allows. We are able to observe our children in a host of different environments and identify and address issues.

          There are criticisms to be made of homeschooling in terms of removing bright children from the public system, or the financial penalties incurred by homeschooling parents and their extended break from full time work.

          However, many of the concerns expressed by those strongly disagreeing with h/s in this discussion are based on misconceptions about how h/s works.

          For those of us who homeschool, those kind of conversations can get very frustrating.

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      Bob Collier

      “By virtue of thinking you can teach without actually being a trained, skilled teacher, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the complexity of teaching and learning.”

      I think you might be demonstrating a lack of understanding of how times have changed. Ask Salman Khan. Or Jimmy Wales. Or Steve Chen, Chad Hurley and Jawed Karim. Or Steve Jobs.

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      Anon

      I am thinking of taking my 6 year old son out of year 2 to be taught at home. He loves school but is falling further and further behind. I am not a teacher, my spelling and grammar are really terrible and my maths skills even worse.
      He is in a class with 10 year one students and 15 year 2 students. His teacher is already stretched to the limit, she doesn’t have the time to spend one-on-one with my son. So he spends half the day in class sitting at his desk unable to participate in what the rest of the class is doing because he is too far behind. He does get special help: his own tutor (a parent volunteer supervised by a special needs teacher) for half an hour, 3 times per week.
      Don’t tell me that he is better off at school. Of course his teacher is more qualified than I am and I don’t doubt that she could do a better job of educating my son than I could IF she had the time. But the fact is that she has to divide her time by 25 whereas I can give him my full attention for several hours a day. I don’t want to take him out of school, I like having my time to myself and I’ve never been much of a fan of home-schooling, mainly because I think some of them miss out on socialising as much as school kids. But I really do believe that AT THIS STAGE I can have a greater educational impact on my son than his fully qualified (she’s been teaching for over 20 years) school teacher.

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        Anon2

        But he loves school.

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          Yes. He is very social and loves spending time with other kids and he also loves to learn, his teacher said he has a very ‘inquiring mind’. But he is reading at the level most of his classmates were at 18 months ago with no signs of improvement. He is becoming more and more frustrated and is now getting detention because he is mucking up in class. So I’m thinking if I take him out for long enough for him to learn to read properly and then re-enroll him that would be better than leaving him in class until he gives up completely. He is already starting to have a few mornings where he doesn’t want to go to school which has never happened before.

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            michaelasmith

            Have you thought of switching schools?
            My brother struggled in primary school. He couldn’t even read when he was in year 3 – yes teachers are qualified but they let him fall through the cracks. He couldn’t understand the work and as a result chatted to his classmates because he got bored. His teachers took this as being disruptive and a bad student, and he was always in detention.

            My parents thought about home schooling him, but due to both working full time this wasn’t really a feasible option.
            They transferred him to the local public school, and held him back a year, and he improved so much, and so quickly.

            The problem was that at the local Catholic school (which both my sister and I attended without problems – although we’re a lot more studious than he), the concern was more with “uniform” and “following rules” than learning.
            Once he was taken out of a classroom that only cared about whether his socks were the right length, he improved greatly.

            Just a thought.

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      MB

      As a homeschooling parent, I think your comment demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of homeschooling philosophy and methodology.

      ‘Teaching’ is not something that can only be done by a trained teacher. ‘Learning’ and ‘Education’ do not only come from books in a classroom. Why would you consider that schools and teachers have the only legitimate methods of teaching?

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    clarinette

    i have started homeschooling my son this year, as some of you know we used to live in holland, where he was in mh is it grade 3 where you start to read and write? then we move to france and they had to put him in a grade according to his age and not his capacities. His french writing was at the level f a 6 years old, and he was mixed in a class of his peers, 9 to 10 years old. Totally left behind. And he has asperger’s syndrome, so was HORRIBLY bullied, and i don’t use the term lightly.So, everything was going down, until i decided to stop this nonsense and homeschool him after christmas holidays.It’s not unschooling, he actually has a curriculum to follow, but his reading ,basic comprehension of what he reads and writing, maths, everything basically has improved in the space of 2 months already. I only work in the afternoons with him, let him rest and play when he doesn’t “feel like it” and STILL, he does more learning than with 8 hours of school?? Makes me wonder what was happening in class really! 8 hours of looking out the window?? at least at home, when he has a question about why your head explodes when you’re out in space, we can take a break from french lessons and look up those things and discuss them. There’s no “keep your questions for a more appropriate time, child” nonsense, i don’t want him to forget about his questions, i help him answer them.

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      the Original Camille

      Kids in France are horrible. I still shudder at the bullying I experienced simply for having glasses.

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      bassgirl

      Clarinette, you sound like a very loving and patient mum.
      :)

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      OssieLeo

      Clarinette, My son has aspergers which really is noticable in social interactions. Everything in me wants to home school him, I know he would benefit from it, but financially I can’t as I am a single mum trying to support my kids by myself. Good on you for doing this for your child. What a loving gesture.

      I compensate my inability to home school him by filling his life with all that he loves and has comfort in.

      With love
      Me

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        Susan

        My experience of homeschooling as a single mum was this: What was “taught/not taught” to my son at school in the 6 hours plus travel time each day could be managed at home in 3 hours. I also worked part-time. You have such flexibility in arranging your day with homeschooling because you aren’t tied to school hours – it is a completely different way of managing education.

        There were some helpful government financial benefits such as assistance with books, computers, etc.

        It was not easy but I see the absolute and real benefits now for myself and my son because he requires less time from me being a very independent teenager, he is happy in himself, he is educated and at first-year tertiary education. I can work full-time now and am no longer agonising over his future. Homeschooling gave him and I a much better future which we now enjoy the benefits of :)

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      clarinette

      @ the Original Camille: i agree, some kids here are rough. One kid threatened to kill him and then proceeded to try to strangle him, throw him to the ground head first, etc, a certain number of times…the teachers are not better, they said it was my son’s fault for not “entering their games” when asked. I wouldn’t play with them either but maybe that’s just me?
      @bassgirl omg that’s so sweet :D I’m actually not very patient as I am hypersensitive to noise but yeah, when my children ask me a question i get curious myself and want an answer if i don’t have it… it’s not patience :) (i do love them, that much is true hehe)
      @OssieLeo: I’m not single, but i’m technically a single mum too. my partner works in a different country and i live on single mother help in france. That’s basically 1000 euros. Is there no help for single mothers in australia?

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        clarinette

        OR: come to france, become my roommate, we get 2000 together and have 90 euros rent to pay (yes i really mean 45 euros each), and homeschool happily ever after!
        (ok, i’m being silly…but that would be fun :) )

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        Petal

        Yes Clarinette, Australia has a very good welfare system. Although we’ve only just caught up with Europe on paid maternity leave – it was only introduced this January.

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          Anon

          I guess that is a matter of opinion. I would call Australia’s welfare system very poor. It has not kept up with cost of living.

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            Kris2040

            Very good until you have to try to survive on it.

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    Anonymous

    Obviously a hot topic given all the comments with quite opposite opinions.

    I like the idea of homeschooling and allowing a child to find joy in learning rather than being forced to do what a curriculum says they should.

    Having University taught teachers doesn’t necessarily make for successful students at the end of their school years – there are plenty of examples of students that flail after school and have no direction.
    The best teachers are those individuals that are passionate about sharing their ideas and the subjects they are passionate about, with children – who says those “teachers” aren’t parents and members of a childs’ family and community?

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    Shorly

    Well written!

    I have a Bachelor of Arts majoring in Education and a Master of Education, yet in all my years of study, we never considered home schooling (that I can remember, and if we did it obviously wasn’t of any significance because I can’t remember!). On reflection, possibly little mention of it because this group make up such a small proportion of school-age children.

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    WillaWay

    There are days when I feel like if I could afford to not work, I would definitely hoik my daughter out of school and try to give her different experiences instead.

    Some friends of mine do it, and their kids are great readers and thinkers, but maths has fallen by the wayside. It seems to be that if you don’t get maths in fairly early, it’s hard to make it up later, so I wonder if no-maths cuts out lots of potential careers for them later – unfortunately, if you want to be an architect, you have to do the degree to get accredited etc.. and you’ll need some maths.

    Humans are amazingly adaptable. People come to Australia from vastly different backgrounds and kinds of education, and they adjust, and can thrive. But across the board, education tells, whether fairly or not. So make sure your homeschooled kids can get into Uni/feel capable of doing it, if you want to keep them having some options.

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    Eva

    Great post. Just goes to show that life is not one size fits all, and it never pays to judge, because then you don’t learn from all of the wonderful people that you come across in this life.

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    AdventureMum

    I think many parents underestimate the level of “home schooling” they give their kids on a daily basis (would you call it “onschooling”?!).

    The way I see it, it’s MY responsibility to educate my kids and I do that by outsourcing a large proportion of the work to the public school system. I recognise that the system provides many advantages and opportunities, but it has some very distinct limitations and that’s where I come in.

    Like most parents, I regularly check on how my kids are going and I fill in the gaps as necessary. After school, on weekends and during holidays I’m doing all sorts of stuff with and for the kids to ensure they’re achieving their potential and gaining a well-rounded education. And no, it doesn’t take a lot of time or money, just a bit of attention and imagination.

    Schooling your kids doesn’t have to be an “either/or” arrangement. Parents: give yourself credit for the amazing things you teach your kids without really trying!

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      Girl

      I love this response. I’m a teacher and I really think children benefit from having qualified teachers, encounters with people from all kinds of backgrounds and time to gain independence away from their parents.

      That said, I truly believe that what parents do at home is just as important, probably more so, than what I do in the classroom. AdventureMum is so right, parents should give themselves more credit for what they do. I think together, teachers and parents can do amazing things for children.

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      Melissa

      It was this argument, made by my homeschooled boyfriend that changed my opinion about homeschooling.

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    Sasch

    Thank you so much for sharing this article, and I want to say to Kate that I will be following your blog & look out for your name at Huff and MyDaily.

    Unschooling (or standard Homeschooling at the very least), will most probably play a part (probably large) of my son’s schooling, simply due to the fact we plan to live ‘off the beaten track’ in an East African country for at least some of the time he would be of school age.

    I should add that I know multiple homeschooling families who are wonderful examples of how it works – there are lawyers, graphic designers, vets, scientists, teachers, doctors and computer scientists amongst those grown-up unschoolers and home schoolers.

    The argument for socialisation frustrates me quite a bit. All the home schoolers I knew (and there’s 20+ ) were involved in sport teams, dancing, martial arts, debating, girl guides, scouts, swimming lessons, just to name a few. And that’s without even getting into more ‘homeschooly’ environments such as Church, home schooling study groups and the like. Socialisation was probably MORE advanced for the home schoolers than a traditionally schooled family would even imagine.

    I am currently reading up more and more about home schooling, unschooling and other less traditional education means – so anything that I can add to the pile is gratefully received!

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    MsDovic

    What an excellent article. I always wondered about homeschooling. I mean why would you unless you were..mad ;-) . But this opens a different and fresh perspective. I don’t think I could give my kids the type of environment that would stimulate them enough (I have zero creativity really. Can’t play music. Cant sing . And don’t know the difference between oil paint and pastels. You know, the good stuff). I can’t imagine having the patience and certainly don’t have the space for them to be free in. Roam on a main road? No, maybe not.

    But this article made me pine a little for how nice it might have been for them should I have been that way inclined. And it’s answered a zillion questions for me. I can see the value of it (in a big way) for the first time ever.

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    Jacqui Freiberg

    A mum in my playgroup was homeschooling her older son a few years ago. He had been going to ‘regular’ school up until Year 8, when they told her that his reading level was only at Year 4 standard, and then didn’t offer any help. She managed to bring his reading right up to Year 9 level within a year, and then started him at a different ‘regular’ school the year after. What an achievement! Teachers are so often busy trying to manage 30-odd kids, that some of them can really slip through the cracks.

    However, I don’t think I could homeschool my boys, unless it was for a reason like the example I just gave. Too much like hard work, I say! ;)

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      Najla

      Perfectly said :) ..

      You are someone I want at my dinner table… You may not agree, but is open to understand and willing to respect :)

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        Jacqui Freiberg

        *blush ;) Thank you!

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      AdventureMum

      Your friend sounds amazing and I’m really glad her son is doing well now … but I have to ask, did she not notice that his reading was so poor before the school “told her” there was a problem in Year 8?

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        Jacqui Freiberg

        That’s a fair question. Yes she did know that *something* was wrong, but I’m not sure she realised exactly how far behind he was.

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          Fair enough.

          My kids are in primary school, so I guess I have greater access to their classroom, teachers and homework to see how they’re going … I’ll have to keep that in mind the obstacles to good communication when they get to high school!

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        Tessie

        It’s hard as a parent to know what the average level of reading or maths is in a classroom of 30 kids. A lot of the time teachers won’t really give you the information you need to know where your child is in the group and how far behind they are. The only way you really know is to have a school that assesses kids regularly and then is happy to show you where your child sits on that assessment scale – not an easy thing to come by I’ve found. I just recently moved my child to a new school and went through this process with the new teacher yesterday. I now know exactly where my child sits in terms of literacy and numeracy but had I not seen what the test was, the class results and then her specific results, I would not have known.

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          Ms. Butlertron

          Ummm…. I don`t know if it`s because she was a primary teacher herself, but when I started falling behind in maths in year five my mum just had to read my end of term report to realise something was up. Or she could have just sat with me one night when I was trying to do my maths homework.

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          As a teacher I keep records of test results, general classroom abilities in all curriculum areas, reading levels and behaviour and socialisation with peers and other adults. I have an open door policy with parents and ensure that they know they can ask me anything about their child at any time. I also inform parents if I feel or know that an area is not to a level that is appropriate for their age. I value what I do and want to ensure that I give the children in my care the absolute best education I can. Parents do need ask questions.

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    B

    As a high school teacher, all I can say is that our current system sucks and needs a complete overhaul. The high-level students are hampered by the low-level students and the low-level students don’t get the help the need due to 30 kids in a class. Schools try many ways to overcome the negatives, but until class sizes are halved and every class has a teacher aide, we’ll continue to offer a second rate learning experience for our kids in Australia.
    The people who report school as an overwhelmingly positive experience tend to be the high-level kids who didn’t need constant attention from the teacher and didn’t struggle.
    The abilities of home schooled students joining main stream schooling are very varied. Some kids have obviously steamed ahead at home, while others can barely write. The one thing they do tend to have in commmon though, is that they are very well mannered and compliant.
    I don’t think either system is perfect, but we really need to fix our education system in Australia.

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      Najla

      THANK YOU BRAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      The reality is this- Many of our kids are struggling. Not because all teachers are hopeless, but because the system cannot cater for them all….

      In my humble opinion, until the system gets their act together, my children’s education is going into my own hands…

      And yes, I will send them to school lol..

      I am an educational advisor (part time) and asses children in maths… Time and time again, we are finding that parent’s do not know just how far behind their children are…. It seems as though the teachers do not know the extent of it either

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        MB

        We began homeschooling our 13yo daughter this year. She finished Year 7 last year. When we tested her to find out which level of maths curriculum to buy – and she tested at low Year 5 level. No wonder the poor kid was struggling!

        We’ve since moved on to a maths curriculum that presents maths in real life context and she’s doing wonderfully. Still behind, but finally starting to understand concepts.

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      Kate

      Hi Brad, or should I say hello colleague,
      I’m a high school teacher also.
      I can relate your frustrations about class size and also understand the challenges teachers face in differentiating work to suit the needs of all students.
      I disagree with your statement that our education system/policy in Australia sucks.
      It’s the BUDGET policy that sucks.
      Adequate funding for public schools would mean reduction in class sizes, extra support teachers for students with special needs and extra teaching resources. Our current system now needs money!
      I think it’s very alarmist to make a statement like that considering how well Australian schools do in the context of a serious lack of respect from the government (both current and previous).

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        Najla

        I do not agree kate…Almost every high school teacher I know talks of these issues….Apparently primary is a little better…..

        If the system was so wonderful, then why are so many children struggling?

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          Molly Rae

          I think because there is too much going on at schools, the curriculum is often too much to get covered during school hours and in many houses where both parents work, there is inadequate time for the children to be helped further at home. In fact, in houses where both parents don’t work there is probably inadequate time to help children learn further.
          Teachers can’t be expected to teach children everything in the few short hours they have students in their care (take out the time for sport, assemblies, lunch breaks, etc etc), they don’t write the curriculum they are told to teach. They need the support of parents… and parents need to back-up learning at home – how? Not by doing their kids homework or assignments but by reading to them, listening to them read, playing an active role in their learning, asking them about what they are learning, discussing things that are happening in the world, switching off their computers and engaging with them… if you feel your child is not being pushed don’t wait for the teacher to give them extension work, give them projects to do at home, teach them about things that won’t be in the curriculum, open their mind to the world that exists outside Australia… there is so much that you can do as a parent to help your child’s learning.

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        B

        Well, first of all my name’s not Brad, but when I speak of the school system in Australia being very below par (particularly in QLD where I am) that also encompasses the budget. Obviously class sizes and teacher aides are part of the budget….. and I’m not even going to touch on the appalling state of affairs for contract teachers and the disrespect they receive in the education system, that’s a whole other gripe. No wonder good teachers are leaving the system.

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    Rick

    Loved this. I work in education (the media side) currently so I won’t comment on the broader issues that people love to talk about but I will offer my single story which, please, is not empirical evidence for anything. I did school of the air until I was 8 and moved to civilisation. We had a daily half hour radio class with a few other kids and a teacher all separated by hundreds and hundreds of kilometres and then mum did the rest, until she had to go and bake lunch or dinner for the jackaroo and left my brother and I to our own devices. My brother is not a lover of learning and I turned out to be writing by age 4. Sentences. The teachers didn’t believe I could until they saw me in person once yearly. It was a fantastic childhood but when I finally made it to a ‘real’ school I was scared shitless. People. Kids! 122 kids! It took me a long time to develop any social skills but I got there.

    Still wouldn’t trade it for quids.

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    Lil

    How strange. I could never contemplate such an informal approach to education. I believe education is a right not a privilege. All children should have access to structured learning which includes math and english, sport and social interaction, art and science and many more experiences. Education is the most recognised tool for improving living standards and breaking the cycle of poverty. The value of formal education should never be underestimated. I recognise that for some children with special needs alternative options may be necessary but….

    The greatest gift we can give our children that can never be taken away is a good solid education and in my opinion that should include some formal and structured learning.

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      Melissa

      Lil, if you look at studies of home schooled children, they are either doing as well as or better than schooled students in terms of socialisation and further education. They are not missing out on an education, they are being educated in a different way to mainstream schools. The only large difference studies have picked up is that homeschool graduates have a higher proportion of self-employed.

      I’m really happy to hear criticism of home education by those who have done their research on it. I write articles on home schooling that talk about its drawbacks. No system is perfect.

      How about we all respect each other’s educational choices and/or base our criticism on research and facts, rather than opinion ?

      I wouldn’t presume to comment negatively to people who choose school for their children.

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        Melissa, I respect personal choice but how do you expect marganilised communities to home school their children or those parents single or couples who work full time and can’t spend the time required to home school. There is much reseach to prove that education (formal) has broken the cyle of disadvantage in our community. Perhaps you need to come from a place of privilege to begin with to be a candidate for home schooling. What does the research have to say about the socio economic demographics of those who are successfully home schooled?

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          Ah, well there you have one of those flaws. Public education needs to be supported as a viable alternative to home education. I don’t expect everyone to home educate. I just expect criticism of it to be founded on knowledge of how it works and what the outcomes are, not on stereotypes and assumptions.

          It may interest you to know that, unlike children at private schools, home educated children receive no funding for their education from the tax dollar. Tackling private school funding might be the way for the community at large to support a quality education for those from all backgrounds.

          I truly doubt that home education impacts greatly on the public system. It’s also possible to support public education through volunteering or donations whilst choosing home education for one’s own family, although this would not be a mainstream idea in homeschooling circles.

          You are right that middle class, white families are over-represented – although the homeschool community is not made up exclusively of privileged or two-parent families. I think you will often find this in schools also, as they tend to draw upon their geographic area and are rather homogeneous in their advantage or disadvantage, depending on that area.

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        As Lil said, it’s just her opinion. I didn’t take her post as being overly negative about home schooling, rather saying that she is in favour of structured learning instead. She also acknowledged that in certain circumstances it can be beneficial. This topic is up for discussion, and I feel that Lil’s comment was fair. I tried to look for information about homeschooling on the net and could only find stuff on websites that promote home schooling – hardly a balanced view.

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    Melissa

    Links for Louise and anyone else interested in finding out the facts about home education in Australia:
    http://hea.asn.au
    http://www.australianhomeschoolcurriculum.com

    In NSW the Board of Studies also has info on their Parent’s Page.

    HTH

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    Crikey

    ? why are we getting articles from the US?

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      Lil

      perhaps because this topic is not widely discussed here in Australia and there is not much written about it.

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      methree

      I agree, this is lazy by the mm team. it seems to me a case of “we need more content to bung up no matter where it comes from”

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        Lil

        judging by the range and volume of comments lots of people found this post interesting – does it really matter where the content is sourced from? One article from the US is hardly lazy!

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        Lana

        Actually Kate has written for Mamamia before (and a range of other Australian sites) . We like her voice and what she has to say.

        You call it lazy – we call it inclusive, and a little international ;-)

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          Najla

          That comment has made me love you more and more at Mamamia….It is wonderful to see you embrace all walks of life :)

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          Tessie

          Nicely put Lana.

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          Kym

          It’s not completely relevant to our situation here in Australia though – where home schooling is different to distance eduaction. Home schooling families have a choice to use a local school and choose not to – families who undertake distance education have no local school and must use distance eduaction (such as “school of the air”) as thier ONLY option. Just a point that needed to be clarified.

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            Anon

            You can choose to use distance education if you live in a city. The difference being that the curriculum is set for you and your child has access to a qualified teacher. With homeschooling the parents comes up with the lesson plans. There are quite a few city families using distance education. I know this because I am considering enrolling my son in distance education and he is currently enrolled in the primary school at the end of our street.

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      Meerkath

      Because they are relevant to those of us with kids? That’s m guess, we don’t need to be insular, am more than happy to read posts by os contributors, maybe if their is enough interest, an Australian home educator could write a post on their experiences!

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      Me

      Who cares where it is from – it is interesting!!

      And golly, people really need to stop being so nationalistic and Aussie-centric.

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      This was also on offbeat mama or another fairly mainstream site. Mamamia often curates stuff that has caused a stir on other parts of the internet.

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    milly

    there are so many amazing things about school that homeschooling can’t offer –
    -the awesome play equipment (always better than the local park)
    -the array of choice at little lunch when you have 30 kids to swap with (and no parents to approve of what you actually end up eating)
    -assembly – getting certificates in front of the whole school, performing ridiculous songs and plays with your classmates, special assemblies where musica viva or an inspirational speaker would come, singing the national anthem every week
    -getting a new teacher, classroom and classmates every year (or mostly every year in the case of small schools – which I went to)
    -playground fads like hula hooping, skipping, french knitting, etc etc (yes I know all of these things can be done at home, but doing it at home with your mum and siblings totally misses the point)
    -easter hat parades
    -book week
    -spending all morning deciding how to spend your $2 at the canteen… splash out and have a pie or buy redskins for 20 of your friends? do what you want, your mum won’t know! (unless it’s her day on the canteen roster)
    -starting high school and learning independence through navigating timetables, finding new classrooms and meeting the demands of 8 different teachers
    -getting ready with friends for school socials
    -learning invaluable leadership, organisational skills and confidence through student council involvement at a school, district and state level (ok maybe that was just me but it completely defined my schooling years and I am so glad that public education in NSW has these opportunities)
    -discovering new things through teachers who are passionate about subjects you or your parents might never have had an interest in
    -reading books that make no sense at the time but being able to hold a conversation about them will get you in with the artsy crowd at uni
    -the chance to share the joy of finishing assignments, or a school year, or exams, or school itself with your whole year group
    -picking out a dress and getting ready for your school formal
    -going through your formal photos years after and laughing at how ridiculous everyone looked

    I know I’m going on way too long here but I’m getting nostalgic (can ya tell?)

    I KNOW that homeschooled kids have the chance to socialise but school isn’t just about socialising in a making friends kind of way, it’s about learning to share, to get along with people you wouldn’t normally want to spend time with, to take turns deciding what game to play at lunchtime, to work in pairs or groups, to seeing your friends every single day and still remaining friends – I know homeschooled kids see their parents and siblings every day but so do all kids – relationships with friends require a different kind of maintenance.

    I guess to sum everything up in the sentence, I feel like homeschooled kids are missing out on a lot of vital stuff.

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      Crikey

      Don’t you also thing that schooled children miss out on some amazing things too…she described some amazing stuff there.

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        milly

        nothing that you can’t do in the school holidays, the afternoons, or on weekends. Although I will agree that a lot of schooled children miss out on spending time with their family, although that can’t be blamed on schools.
        I have great parents (who, surprise surprise, are school teachers) so I can’t pretend that they didn’t have a huge influence in my upbringing

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      Oh I love this. So much of what makes school great isn’t really what happens in the classroom. I’m so glad I got to do all these things and that you reminded me of them all Milly :)

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      Gee

      Assembly! Ah, bless. I forgot all about that… i wonder if that’s just an Australian thing..?

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      jojo

      Milly….best post of all! I have been sitting here reading all the different views as people compare, debate and slam our education system and I am saddened (to put it nicely). Wouldn’t it be nice to turn back the clock to a time when teachers were truly respected members of the community? Unfortunately, not all teachers deserve this respect these days as there are those who are in the job for the wrong reasons. I choose not to have an opinion over the school vs homeschool debate except to say that my children are public educationees (if it’s not a word, then it should be) and although I there have been some not so great moments, there have also been some amazing moments as Milly so wonderfully outlined above. I know this is not a public education debate, but I feel the need to say that if we continue to slam public ed. then how can we ever expect it to be viewed in a positive light? All in all, who cares how your children receive their education….just as long as they do!

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      Susan

      Your list of activities gets a tick for nearly every item and my child is homeschooled. I’m pretty sure he will survive and thrive without the experience of wondering how to spend his $2 at the school tuckshop. He has the experience at the local shop anyway. He definitely did not miss out :)

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      here here

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    Guest

    A friend of my family’s daughter got pregnant at 15 recently and decided she didn’t want to go to school anymore. Instead, her mum started homeschooling her, except her mum ended up doing all the work for her so she wouldn’t fail, as her daughter refused to do anything.

    I share this, not because I want to bash homeschooling, but because I think homeschooling/unschooling does not work for some. Saying that, I also think that mainstream schooling is not the right answer for others. I think it all depends on the interaction of a whole lot of variables including the child, the parents, the possible schools etc.

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      Melissa

      This is an atypical homeschooling situation.

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      Bob Collier

      It seems to me that the problem with using an anecdote to illustrate alleged deficiencies in the concept of homeschooling is that somebody like me, who went to school in the 1950s and 60s – when at least the world they were designed for still existed – and who is the parent of one child who went to school for 13 years through the transitional 1990s and excelled and of a second child who was removed from school at the age of seven in 2002 mainly because schools were clearly becoming the laggards of the education world, can if necessary give you fifty anecdotes of school ruining a child’s life to the extent that any sensible person would immediately call for the abolition of this wretched institution.

      But that’s not the point. The point, as you say, is to solve a problem in a way that at the very least does nobody any harm and that solution is different, perhaps unique, for every family.

      It’s certainly true that homeschooling and especially unschooling are not for everybody – I think it takes a particular kind of attitude – but I do know from eight years of observing my son that free range immersive learning at the speed of thought through electronic media is superior to sitting in a classroom waiting to be taught what somebody who is not me has deigned to tell me is knowledge I simply must acquire. Perhaps because I also know from four decades of post-school life that 90% of what I was taught at school was a complete waste of my time and nearly all of what I actually needed to make my way in the world my schools didn’t teach. Meanwhile, the world has moved from educating ‘just in case’ to educating ‘just in time’. Schools will be the last to notice.

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      MB

      Well, the mum shouldn’t have done the work. Although is this really all that different to parents who do their kids projects for them for school?

      Mind you, I’m wondering what it is that the mother didn’t want her to fail – were they doing distance education rather than homeschooling?

      IMO this is a parenting issue, not really relating to a particular method of education.

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    Claire C

    There is a child at my niece’s school who is home schooled four days of the week and joins the class for one day a week. Do any of the home schoolers here do this? What do people think of this arrangement?

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      Claire, part time enrollment at school is sometimes possible in SA and Victoria; not in the other States as far as I’m aware.

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    I had the same maths teacher for Years 11 and 12 who was famous for being a taskmaster. At the start of every class, we would have to get a sheet of paper out quickly and he would fire 20 mental arithmetic questions at us. Then we would swap our sheet with the person next to us to mark. Those who got below 15 points had to stand up. He would then fire more questions at those standing up and you could only sit if you knew the right answer (and he would randomly pick a person who has just sat down to check if he/she knew the answer). So you definitely do not want to be the last few people standing.
    Some students hated him but most loved him. I LOVED him – would not be an understatement to say that he inspired a love for maths in me and encouraged an ability to think fast in me. Many many years out of high school later, I still think of him with much fondness.
    Granted that some teachers may be duds but if my kids can come across a gem like him, that is all the argument I need to send them to school.

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      Crikey

      I’m sure plenty of your classmates would have put him up as an example of why homeschool is better.

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        holly

        And why would/should that discount NotonFacebooks opinion of his/her teacher?

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          I don’t think it does. Think about it this way – last time I took an IQ test, I scored in the 99th percentile for verbal intelligences but something like 37th percentile for being able to do anything with numbers.

          At school, I would actually cry before maths class. When I had taskmaster teachers who had a “just do it” attitude, I would cry and hide in the library and sometimes have anxiety attacks before going to class. So no – this kind of teacher is not good for everybody.

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      girly

      Most math teachers are taskmasters. I had a complete bitch for a math teacher in year nine, miss green. God she was horrible. She hated me because I was woeful at math, and was a bit cheeky. Well, she wanted NO talking. Try and tell that to a bunch of 14-15 year olds? We always fought, she always screamed at me and constantly sent me out of class. Never tried to reach out to me.

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      I wonder if we had the same teacher? He is still the one I remember most and have huge respect for, being a taskmaster was only a tiny part of it he really knew how to turn your brain on.
      And by the end of year 12 the entire class loved him, we played practical jokes and he played right back.

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      Ruby21

      Some of the wisest, most inspirational people I know were my teachers. I couldn’t imagine my life without their input.

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    Zara

    Wow, this is really interesting. Now, could somebody please explain what “Radical unschooling” is? I have heard the term but otherwise am ignorant.

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      Zara, radical unschooling is a philosophy of education where the child’s life is lived in a self-directed manner. They may study or not study, eat, sleep and otherwise engage with the world as they wish to. The parent’s role is to facilitate the child’s learning, both academic and real-world, rather than direct. I personally don’t practice unschooling, so please, no flames directed at me!

      It is more popular in America than here. In Australia unschooling is more often known as natural learning.

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      Thank you Melissa. When I first heard the term I thought it may be some kind of therapy for adults to “forget” what they have been taught/experienced at school! Sounds a lot like my early childhood living in a farm though :) – I started school at ripe old age of 7.

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    Nicole

    I had to pull my daughter out of school late last year and am currently homeschooling her. She is autistic and was being bullied by her education assistant and ended up with severe anxiety and depression.

    Unfortunately here in Perth there are no Autism specific schools, there are only 4 autism extension units and they are for high school only (she’s still in primary).

    As a single parent who was working 2 part time jobs and studying Uni, I had to make some major adjustments, which included quitting my work, deferring Uni and moving in with my mum.

    School of Isolated and Distance Education refused to take her because I was hoping she could be taken on by them for a year and then transition her into High school however they said because it was longer hen 3 months that it would not be possible.

    I feel completely betrayed by the Education Department but at least with my daughter being educated by me at home she is once again happy and has no anxiety. Unfortunately my families story is very very common, where there is a crisis that triggers the decision to homeschool our children with special needs

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      peter rabbit

      Nicole, it is wonderful that you have made so many sacrifices for your daughter. I hope that you both get the help you need very soon. I have no doubt that with a mother like you, your daughter is going to be just fine. All the best to you both for the future.

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      Me

      I am sorry to hear that things are so hard for you. It is terrible when children don’t have access to the support they need. You sound like a strong woman. My thoughts go out to you.

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      Clare M

      Nicole, I too am in Perth. Are you involved at all with the LEARN centre in east fremantle? Could they help you find somewhere?

      I know christ church grammar has a special stream, which i realise is only for boys, but perhaps they could also point you to a female or co-ed equivalent?

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        Nicole

        Hi Clare, I’m a member of the Autism Association and Autism West. So far Autism West have been the best support as far as age appropriate social skills services is concerened.

        I’ve spoken to Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services,alot of discussions with the Head of the Child Psychology for the school district as well as Inclusive schooling and Therapy Focus. All of whom are very sympathetic yet unfortunately there is nothing that they can offer because she is too high functioning for ESU or other services that they offer but too autistic to cope with the demands of mainstream.

        I havent checked out LEARN yet but I’ll definately look into it :) So far Homeschooling has been a success for us but I just wish that there were more options and support, it’d be great to get paid for this ;)
        Thanks for your reply.

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      clarinette

      oh, i hadn’t seen your post :) i’m in the exact same position. Except i’m in france, but there is nothing available here either so it’s not a real difference.
      Somehow schools think that therapy hours can just be implemented during school hours because, anyway, autism is a sort of retardation isn’t it?they’re not missing out on much…
      Well, it’s not. And I’m very convinced they will do much better in an environement where noone believes that….

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        Nicole

        I totally agree, all they want is for people to get them and treat them with respect…so basically the same thing that NT people want! I just dont get why it’s so difficult and why every single step that we take is met with a brick wall.

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          clarinette

          Simple answer: pecking order.

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      Mum of special needs child

      At the moment both my children attend regular school (a Catholic school that really seems to care about the kids), and at this stage I plan to keep them there, but I remain open-minded to the idea of one of my children needing home schooling in the future. It was Tony Attwood (a very well known speaker/ author re autism and aspergers) that opened my eyes to the idea of home schooling for that period between years 7 and 9. He said that is the age when it is ‘cool to be cruel’, and some kids benefit from homeschooling etc then. To do it at that age for a couple of years had honestly not occurred to me! At the moment my child is gaining very valuable lessons about being around other people that I just could not expose her to at home, but if I see her to starting to sink, I am very open to the idea that homeschooling might be best for her. At the moment she is in the top groups for reading, and maths (she is in year 1). She does not fit into any particular box (doesn’t score quite highly enough in most categories for an ASD diagnosis for example – she is one of the many kids that slips through the cracks) , but her social skills at this stage are her biggest hurdle. At this stage I am working together with the school and being as involved as I can be (going to reading groups, meeting with the teacher regularly to check how she is going etc) and I find it is working ok. We are only in our second year of schooling though, so I will be continuing to observe how she goes. I plan to stay open minded to the home schooling side of things right through her schooling, and if I think she needs it, I will beat myself into submission and do it for her. I don’t underestimate the massive commitment it must be on the part of the parents though, and won’t enter into it lightly.

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    Meerkath

    Lol @ how weird are you:)))
    I am envious, I loved school but the thought of home schooling has always intrigued me, and I wish I had the courage to home school my kids. If only because the frustrated teacher in me would be in heaven lol.
    I think it’s similar to when you choose, as I have done, a single sex high school for your daughter, or son. But how will she learnt mix with boys???? Umm, hi, she doesn’t live in a bubble folks. She has male cousins of a similar age, friends of the opposite sex she has made at school and does sport and trains with boys. She isn’t lacking male company, nor is she scared of them and I can’t see that changing at a single sex school. I think the same would apply to home schooled kids – they don’t exist in a bubble and are probably a bigger part of their community then most kids.
    Great post! ( and no, you aren’t weird lol)

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    Melissa

    Sure Louise. Off to make dinner but will post some useful links later.

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      Cricket22

      Hi Melissa, thanks for the informed information. I was wondering how it works if they want to go to university? How do they apply, do they have to sit exams, etc? Thanks a lot.

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        Carolyn

        You can enter Uni by doing their entrance exams. That’s how the two home schooled kids I know did it.

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        Kate23

        The students can also sit the Year 12 exams at their local school if they want to and receive a university entry ranking that way. (Naturally, it is wise to ensure that your curriculum follows the school curriculum for years 11 and 12 before contemplating that option)

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        Thanks a lot for your responses :)

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    Melissa

    Wow. There is a lot of ignorance out there. Unschooling is not an absence of education, it is a method of education in the absence of school.

    Yes, we homeschool. No, we don’t unschool. Yes, my children see other people. No, they don’t ‘just hang out with Christians’. No, I’m not a saint.

    If you are going to comment negatively on something, educate yourself about it first.

    Homeschooling is legal in Australia – it is done by normal people who have typically put in a lot of thought into their decision. Their children have a ‘different’ education but it isn’t an inferior education. Studies show homeschoolers as adults do as well as schooled adults socially.

    Really people, do your research!

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      Louise

      Hi Melisssa

      I would be interested if you could refer me to a website or organization to get more information on curriculums, support etc.

      Louise