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UPDATE 10th November: Mariah Carey has just been announced as the latest face/body of Jenny Craig at a press conference where she ‘unveiled’ her ‘new body’. Ugh.

Clearly, Jenny Craig have identified new mothers as their newest lucrative market and are tapping the shoulders of famous new mothers (as early as 5 weeks after giving birth in the case of Mel B), signing them up to spruik the weight loss plan.

Fairfax reports:

Screen Shot 2011 11 10 at 3.18.16 PM 380x559 The new mummy weight loss industry rolls on...Mariah Carey has shown off her post baby body and announced she is the new spokeswoman for Jenny Craig.

The 42-year-old singer gave birth to twins, Monroe and Moroccan in April of this year and has been battling to lose the weight ever since.

Some of the commercials that will run for Jenny Craig will feature her song Make It Happen which she says is “fitting because a lot of people give up hope when they have had their kids and can’t lose that 20 pounds or 40 pounds.”

Carey said that as well as eating the Jenny Craig products she cooked her own meals, worked out for 45 minutes four or five days a week and although she does not know how much she weighs she is happy now being a US size 4 to 6.

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Mel B at a breakfast launch in Sydney to announce her partnership with Jenny Craig

New mothers ARE a potentially lucrative market – because they’re vulnerable, sleep-deprived and wrestling with issues of body image more than at any other time in a woman’s life except possibly adolescence. It can be very challenging and many women do want to lose weight. I get that.

But call me a cynic (CYNIC!) but I highly doubt that the celebrity experience of Jenny Craig is the same as a regular new mother. Just like the life of a celebrity – with access to personal trainers, chefs, stylists, flexible working hours and a phalanx of support systems – bears any resemblance to the real life of the rest of us after we’ve given birth.

I’m dismayed by the way new mothers are being targeted like this. Are you?

Last month, I wrote:

Five weeks ago Mel B had a baby. Her third. Today, she has been announced as the new face of Jenny Craig, a weight loss company.

Here’s the Mamamia on Sky News episode in which Sam interviewed Mel B:

What’s wrong with this picture? PLENTY. Every woman has the right to determine her own weight. Whatever. But I’ve had a gutful of the way new mothers are constantly coerced, guilted and even bullied by the media, celebrities and the weight loss industry into erasing every physical sign THAT THEY JUST GAVE BIRTH TO A HUMAN.

It takes 9 months to grow and deliver a baby. Why the hell is there an expectation that it should take weeks to ‘bounce back’?

Bodies don’t bounce after giving birth. Maybe yours did. Fine. But please know that you are the exception not the rule.

The vast majority of women take months or years to lose the weight they gained during pregnancy. Nutritionists recommend you take a year and do it slowly.

And some of us never get back to the weight – or shape – we were before becoming mothers. And that’s OK.

But my biggest frustration is that there is an emphasis on weight at all. There are enormous challenges that come with having a baby. There are huge mental, emotional, logistical and hormonal adjustments to be made. Some women find this easy. Many don’t. And I daresay that if your life is not changed by becoming a mother, something is very very wrong.

I am constantly appalled by the industry – the diet industry and and the magazine industry – who prey upon the enormous vulnerability of pregnant women and new mothers in order to sell them the bullshit idea that the most important thing you can do after giving birth is focus on your body and the scales.

They do this to sell weight loss products and magazines and it’s abhorrent.

And they do it with dirty tricks such as photoshop to fake before and after pictures and make you think every other new mother in the world has ‘bounced back’ except you.

Oh, and will magazines STOP running pictures of pregnant celebrities as ‘before’ shots? We need to stop this obsession with comparing and contrasting bodies. It’s unhelpful, unnecessary and can cause extreme anxiety for women who have enough on their plate trying to make milk, get sleep and all the other huge adjustments that come after becoming a mother.

You know what the human body looks like after giving birth? It still looks pregnant. A lot like this:

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Jools Oliver

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But do magazines show those kinds of photos? No. They perpetuate rubbish and lies like this:

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Kourtney Kardashian retouched on the cover of OK! magazine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And this:

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Kendra

 

The most important thing you do after having a baby is NOT to lose weight. It’s to prioritise the mental and physical health of your baby and yourself. So while Mel B is entitled to take whatever money she can get from weight loss companies to spruik their products, we need to provide support, encouragement and nurturing for new mothers and pregnant women.

We must keep telling each other and ourselves that we are NOT what we weigh. And that getting ‘back’ to some number on a scale is not the most important thing. Nor is wearing a bikini.

Every mother will tell you that you are forever changed after having a baby, inside and out. You wouldn’t WANT to be the same. And that applies to your body as well.

After three kids (heck, even after one),  my boobs aren’t as perky, my stomach will never be flat and my clothes don’t fit the same way they used to. But so what?

If you want to lose weight for your health then go for it. But don’t do it because you feel the pressure to conform to some impossible, fake media or celebrity ideal of what you should look like after you have a baby.

And celebrities? In the first year of your baby’s life, do the rest of us a favour and keep your clothes on. Stop answering questions about your post-baby diet and exercise routines and instead, help raise awareness of some of the other non-body related issues we all face after becoming new mums.

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    Beatrice

    This is so sad. I put on 22kgs with each of my 3 pregnancies. Thankfully it was all gone within 12 months. Thankyou breastfeeding. It was bloody hard work initially but well worth it on many levels!

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    Jess

    This totally annoys me! The last thing you should think about after having a baby is your fat! And if you are breastfeeding you need all the fat to make milk. In my case (and I am not sure if I am the norm or not), I lost weight very rapidly after giving birth by breastfeeding and being awake all the time. But, no, my body didn’t end up looking the same as it did before. It still doesn’t 5 months later, but I have better things to worry about right now, and cutting calories would only deprive me and my baby of what we need.

    Airbrushing on ‘post baby bodies’ should be outlawed. It is just BS to pretend that people look the way they show in magazines after having a baby. We all need to quit buying into the whole scheme.

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    Bec

    What also doesn’t help new mums (or any mum really, baby no 2 19 months old and still trying to shift baby weight!!!) is photo galleries such as the one on nine msn today below the Mariah Carey story about “yummy mummies in their bikinis”

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    Nat McDonald

    Mia, once again your spot on! Totally agree. Celebrities are in totally different circumstances to the average mum. They should focus more on their babies than what their bodies look like.

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    Anonymous

    The thing that annoys me so much about this is that it’s all smoke and mirrors!!

    In her reality show where she did a work out video showing how she lost all the baby weight,’ Kendra was wearing spanx!

    And the images of her and Kourtney Kardashian are airbrushed to within an inch of reality!

    Way to make every new mother feel uber crap about themselves, stupid lying media!

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    amandarose

    Amandarose- I don’t have a problem with it. I did the lite-n-ezy thing after my son and in three months I looked great at it was LESS stress as I have something healthy to eat without thinking about it. That is a good thing. To tired to cook? Instead of chowing down toast or rubbish I had a balanced diet.
    These companies are not stupid they give extra calories to greasy feeding mums.
    I would recommend it to anyone and mu sister who is having a baby at Christmas is set to order straight away herself.
    I think there is a difference between weight loss for weight loss’s sake and trying to look glamorous and focusing o. Your looks. That is a different kettle of fish.
    It is realistic to try and not become obese – not realistic to expect to look like a centre fold
    better not to bulk up when pregnant though- much easier to lose 5 kg then 10.

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    ReannonHope

    I will never forget when my SIL came to see me at the hospital & said ” wow your stomach is stil huge! Mine was back to normal by the time I left hospital”. Me being the hormal crazy bitch I was said “yeah mine did with the first too, I walked out a size 10 but this I gained 25kg so it aint going no where”. It took me a year to loose 15 of those kgs & then I joined weight watchers cause i was sick of feeling uncomfortable. I got back down to pre baby weight, & it felt good, but 9 yrs later Im heavier than I have ever been & thats OK now. I always think as you get older you get less troubled by your weight. I still have days where I hate my body & yearn for my pre baby body, but that was nearly 12 yrs ago, Im different now & so is my body.
    I hope all the mums to be remember you dont have to squeeze back into your pre baby clothes ASAP, thats not important & its not realistic for most of us. All the normal people wont be judging you if you still have some extra kgs, we all just want to know if your doing OK or not. :)

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    pip

    After i had my 2nd baby i joined weightwatchers when my baby was 4 weeks old. Which in hind sight was early but I am really glad i did. I still ate heaps of healthy food, didnt effect my breastfeeding, and now i weigh less than i have in years because i had been so uncomfortable during my pregnancy i was ripe for the change. Maybe thats why women do it. But i think the story is a valid one, I especially think highlighting the photoshopping and how we dont bounce back in weeks, and that there are many other changes more important/as important as the weightloss that we have to give attention and time too. More concentrating on healthy rather than slim and the way you look i think is the way to go

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    Meg

    Although I agree that it’s shameful and ridiculous and every shade of wrong the way photoshopped images are sold as reality, I am a little mystified at the attack on Mariah and Mel B. Look, I don’t know a new mum who isn’t aware of the changes (sometimes pretty drastic!) which have taken place in their bodies and are keen to start feeling a bit like their old self again. In the case of Mariah & Mel B, they have been given an opportunity which many new mums would love – loose the extra baby weight, get yourself a bit fit and healthy again and get paid to do it! Heck, I know I would!
    As far as I can see it, they’re just spruiking a product which happens to be tailored to their particular needs. But hey – it’s not a bad product, it’s just a tool available should you feel the need for it. And neither Mel B or Mariah are promoting unhealthy or unrealistic bodies so I don’t see why they should be demonised.

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    Emma in Melbourne-land

    I am honestly so sick of these sorts of articles. Jenny Craig is a business and obviously their plan has worked, here we are talking about them. Jenny Craig isn’t about dropping a whole ton of weight fast, it’s about making changes in your lifestyle to be healthy. Mariah Carey and Mel B, and whoever else, are just their way of getting their brand out and into peoples minds so they can sell their product – just like how magazines select celebrities for their covers based on their ability to sell magazines…

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    When my husband( then boyfriend) went to visit his sister in hospital post birth he said OMG have you had the baby! He had no idea that she would still have a large stomach ( she had put a lot of weight on and did still look 8 months preggers) I nearl;y died with embarrassment.
    Just goes to show that a lot of people think once the baby is out everything just pings back into shape! If only…

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    Kris2040

    The Mel B ads piss me off, but the Mariah ones will have me wanting to shoot the telly.
    I was talking to a Mum at Playgroup last week about the Mel B thing with Jenny Craig – she couldn’t see why I thought it was shitty to be pushing JC to new Mums. She just went “Oh I totally get wanting to get skinny again, I wish I could but I’m still breastfeeding, and I don’t lose weight until I wean”.
    I’m still breastfeeding, and I’m doing the Michelle Bridges 12 Week Body Transformation. But – I was overweight when I got pregnant, didn’t put on that much whilst pregnant, and I don’t feel strong or fit and healthy unless I’m doing something. I really like the structure of being told what to do and when, and having accountability – I started it more because I have the time on my hands and I was starting to go a bit loopy, to be honest! Also, I needed somewhere to channel my competitive streak.

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      Emma in Melbourne-land

      But is your doing the 12 week challenge any different really to women doing Jenny Craig? Both are about changing your lifestyle to get fit and healthy, as well as to achieve whatever particular goal you have set for yourself. I don’t really see what the big deal is. JC isn’t beating down peoples doors pushing women to sign up. Women have to physically make the first move and they could make worse moves like starve themselves or exercise to the point of exhaustion. At least with JC they have nutritious meal plans organised for them… just my two cents!

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        aleced

        You took the words right out of my mouth Emma. What the difference between signing up to JC and Michelle Bridges 12 week challenge? JC is hardly the cabbage soup diet!

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        Kris2040

        I don’t know, I can’t put my finger on it, but I do find the JC ads (and they are pretty relentless) somehow predatory?
        I think Mel B in her “fat” pictures doesn’t look bad, she looks like a 40 odd year old woman who’s had 3 kids, which isn’t a bad thing.
        I don’t like the normalising expecting to be skinny straight after having a baby.

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      Lu

      I’ve done Jenny Craig and I cant fault it. I ate too much and it helped me reduce my portion sizes while still eating 3 meals plus snacks each day. They dont want you to become skinny they want to help you become happy with your size and be healthy.

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        Kris2040

        Is it food they supply or do you get recipes and make it all yourself?

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    Anon

    Does anybody else smell a fish…… these constant dividing weight loss articles… the number of odd unresearched and some what antagonostic blogs lately….. Is Mamamia in need of hits / ratings / comments?????
    Just saying……

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    aleced

    Mia, I love your writing and am usually very pleased to read it on here (particularly because you don’t do that much of it now). But I think you need to get over this.
    It’s obviously something you feel strongly about and I admire that but can you give women a little bit more credit please?
    Not every new mother is going to hate herself because Jenny Craig has hired Mariah Carey or Mel B as their spokesperson. If anyone (women, men, new mothers or not) choose to lose weight in a sensible and reasonable way in order to feel better about themselves, isn’t that their decision?
    I usually love this site but am getting a little sick of the judgement of people and their choices and the negative tone of a lot of articles. Can’t we just live and let live?

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      Emma in Melbourne-land

      YES!! Agree completely!

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    Nicky

    To be honest, Mariah Carey would be one of the last celebs to inspire me to lose weight – baby related or not! I found Chrissy Swan to be a fantastic role model for weight loss because she is a nice, down to earth, everyday gal who I could relate to.

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    Beka

    Ohhh this is such a recurrent topic on this site.
    I can honestly say I sit on both sides of the scale (so to speak!)

    I was very overweight with bubs no.1 (I ate anything and everything when pregnant). I was happy.
    I then lost 27kgs in between babies. I was happy and I was proud. I lost the weight by making smart healthy choices (most of it involved a daily walk with my daughter). Ok, I lost the weight over 6 months, not six weeks.
    As I sit here and type, with around 6 weeks of preganancy number 2 to go, I haven’t put on anywhere near as much weight this time, I am still just as happy. I feel better in myself for making better food choices so I don’t have to work as much weight off next time.

    In summary, I think good on these women for being open about needing to lose weight in the first place. We don’t know their motivation behind it (money/fame/attention OR god forbid weight loss!).
    No one is forcing anyone to buy these mags perpetuating ‘perfect post baby bodies’. I can’t help but feel those who are deeply affected by the images already have body image issues that they’re further feeding with the magazines.

    I couldn’t give a crap whether Mariah or Mel B lose weight quick/ slowly/ or not at all!!
    Don’t like what the magazines are ‘preying on?’ don’t buy the magazines…..and don’t talk about it!!

    My husband has often said to me (on the odd occasion when I buy a cheap stupid glossy mag) that he notices my ‘self-talk’ becomes more negative and I am so much more critical of myself. Solution: don’t buy the mags or buy into the hype!!
    Similarly, if I’m feeling down, I know buying a trashy magazine will do nothing for my self esteem. What does make me feel good though is going for a run, exercising and eating well. Better to get off my arse than to whine about it!

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    red shoes

    Oh for god’s sake, let people do what they want to do.
    She wants to lose weight after her baby, let her.
    It’s not anyone’s business and if you don’t want to or don’t feel its right, then don’t do it.
    You cannot tell someone what to do with their own body because you don’t agree with it… we were all happy for the tattooed man to do that with his body, but a woman wants to lose her baby weight? Stone her!!!

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      Lauren

      I totally agree with that. You cannot empower women then shoot them down for making decisions for their own wellbeing. I am staring down the barrell of baby #1, weight etc, keeping the momemtum up in my key woman (me) business. I’ll do what I need to in order to look after myself and my family. I am a woman – we have an enormous capacity to get things done!

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      Mia

      Red shoes, there is nothing wrong with losing weight or wanting to lose weight at any time in your life. This is more subtlety about the expectation that women ‘bounce back’ after a baby…and how there seems to be more emphasis on weight loss than the well being of mother or baby….

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        red shoes

        ok, fair call Mia, I’ll take that.
        I just felt so frustrated seeing this article pop up again. It feels like we go round in circles….

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        Carly

        Your post here is a lot clearer than your original article?
        Can you not see Mia people are getting sick of the tone and targeting of individuals in articles lately. You have a valid point about a very current issue but is has all been lost in this blog.
        It may not be everybodies reality to have personal chefs, personal trainers and the help of nannies but it is somebodies reality and good on them!

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          red shoes

          that’s it! I have been thinking about what you said Carly and you’re right. Mia, I wish you had written this in your article, it changes my whole thinking on the subject.

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        Meg

        But Mia, I really see this the other way round! Here are 2 high profile women admitting that they DIDN’T bounce back after their babies and that they needed help to get back into celebrity shape!

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    Lucy

    This is literally the third article that’s been published on this website on exactly the same topic, with virtually zero new insight or information. The exact same pictures (of Kendra, Jools and the Kardashian) have been used each time. How can that kind of recycling possibly be justified, even if it’s an important issue you want highlighted on your site? I don’t get it.

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    Carly

    Please please write about something not weight related…… really sick of listening to you bang on about this.

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    Anonymous

    Mel B looks healthy and not showing a unhealthy body image at all, instead of writing negativly about this, why not give her some credit. Yes, maybe she will be getting paid to be the face of a weight loss product, but so what, that weight loss product has helped many acheive a healthy body and lifestyle, Mel B is a positive role model for that. With the rising numbers in obesity and heart problems, those who loose weight need to be prasied in the media and not have someone who constantly scruntinises and makes negative comments… bad call on the Ricki-Lee and Mel B article Mia and I think a few are tired of hearing you sing from the same old song sheet

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      Carly

      I am extremely over it!!! Obesity is a far bigger problem in this country.

      I also think Mia’s approach to continue attacking skinny celebrities is wrong.

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    sickofthewhinging

    Oh for goodness sake, enough already! Enough of the whinging about women making CHOICES that best suit them and their situation about losing their own body weight. It’s nothing NEW for us to see a woman obsess over her body after she gives birth, have you never seen Gone with the Wind? When Scarlett’s body didn’t bounce back to an 18 inch waist after her baby was born she refused to bear any more children! If choosing a healthy lifestyle helps a woman regain the strength (both physically and emotionally) she needs to feel better about herself to therefore take better care of her children, then why condemn her? Everybody is different, Mel B has had 3 kids and I’m intelligent enough to consider that by now I think she has a fair idea about when is the right time for her to focus on that extra baby weight (not all of us are Spice Girl following sheep you know). In fact, I think it’s acually wonderful that she has shown that a new Mum can engage a place like Jenny Craig to help her plan her meals and exercise, so that if anything it lets her get back to more important things – raising her children. Mia I noticed that you failed to mention Mel B’s immediate return to the workplace. I believe that choice has a much greater impact on us new Mums, seeing other career focused women returning to work so soon puts a lot of pressure on us to do the same – I’m sure the cord hadn’t even dropped off her baby’s tummy before she was back in front of the camera again. To see a woman wanting to fit straight back into her workplace makes me feel a lot more guilty than her wanting to fit back into my skinny jeans. I’d rather someone influence me to get off my couch and eat healthier than to leave my newborn baby in favour of a work schedule.

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      justvisiting

      I remember Scarlett was furious about having a 20-inch waist! Poor gal!

      I agree there is a hell of a lot of noise made attacking other women’s choices after childbirth – plenty of my friends have wanted to get straight back to their pre-baby figure and dread the idea of becoming a “slummy mummy” – telling them they are wrong and obviously mindless celebrity-obsessed fools isn’t exactly embracing choice.

      A few friends (admittedly fewer!) have embraced the weight gain and trackpants approach to new motherhood, and as an advocate of choice I support them too!

      Mia, I think its a touch patronising to describe all pregnant women and new mothers as “extremely vulnerable” – plenty of women (pregnant or not) are smart enough to take tabloids for what they are!

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    luciahiscock

    Good on those women who want to get back into shape after having a baby!!
    After having both my girls, exercise was the one thing at kept me sane. It was 4 hours a week that I had to myself, and it was something that made me feel better. It actually gave me more energy, and did not affect my milk supply at all.
    It is so sad, that as women we need to make ourselves feel better, by judging each other.
    If Mel B wants to lose the weight and get paid for it, good on her.. I would do the same..

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    777heidi777

    Thanks Mia for this article. Not only is it unrealistic for new mums to think they will be able to shift their baby weight in weeks, its also unrealistic to idealise body shapes that we didn’t have BEFORE we were pregnant! For example, I was never a Victoria’s Secret model before giving birth to twins, so there is no way I’m going to have a body remotely like one after, even if I do lose the extra kilos. It is irresponsible of ‘the media’ to put these pressures on women, and foolish of us to buy into it. Give a mum a break!

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    archie

    Before our babies, my husband used to draw boobs like this: (o) (o)
    After our babies, he draws boobs like this: \./\./

    He didn’t even realise he’d made the change! Hilarious. I just see it as accepting, he’s certainly never complained… *wink*

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    lavender

    So I’m sitting there after putting Miss 2 and Miss 4 months to bed and opening my chocolate treat, which I keep for X Factor viewing, when Mel B turns up on the screen talking about losing her baby weight when she only had the baby about 5 or maybe 6 minutes ago… 4 months on, I haven’t lost a pound, but that’s okay, I know that when I breastfeed I don’t lose weight, at all, ever and more importantly, I’m not prepared to diet strictly if it means my milk could dry up.
    With baby number 1, 9 months in I started boot camp, I did it 3 times a week for an hour at a time, it made me hungrier, a bit toned but I didn’t shift one number on those scales and let me tell you, running with boobs 36F is NOT FUN!!!!!
    This time, I look down at that saggy stomach and think, it can wait, if I was tired with number 1, with two under 3 I’m knackered ALL THE TIME, it’s all I can do to stay awake to watch X Factor. So you won’t see me doing walking lunges with weights at a park near you any time soon, but you will see me trying to eat a little less at each meal, trying to fill up on veges and salad and lean protein, treating myself with chocolate on Mondays and Tuesdays, eating when hungry but also not eating for boredom, and doing kind things to the rest of my body when and if I get the chance – Mondays, foot bath and home pedicure while watching X Factor, Tuesdays – face mask while watching X Factor, Wednesday – bath with candles and magazine, Thursday – whole body exfoliation and moisturise (yes, I have to plan this at the moment), Friday – shave legs, wash hair, get rid of unwanted hair in other places…. Saturday, walk for 30 mins, Sunday, read the papers and have a shop bought coffee in peace. In the interim, look at those gorgeous kids and be happy I can hold them in front of my saggy tummy!!!

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      rainbow

      brilliant comment

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      myopia

      Lavender….I SO want to be you when I grow up!!!!!

      Actually, judging by the age of your cherubs, I AM probably older than you, but where theres life theres hope, amirite??

      Good for you, enjoy your planned indulgences, you deserve them :)

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    Mel

    Thank you

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    catiepie

    I think Mel looks great the way she is! I love my baby but would like my slimmer frame back, but I am just too exhausted. I found when i lose weight I also lose my milk supply so it’s going to have wait…I am also still feeding at 8 months, the WHO recommend 12 and i’ve had people (mother in law) comment that it’s disgusting to feed past 6 months too. I don’t feed in public unless there it is unavoidable and i do it very discreetly. Nothing about my body looks the same including my boobs but as you say it’s created and birthed another new person and is now largely sustaining them which is pretty amazing.

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      Katie

      Catiepie, do not let anyone tell you that you shouldn’t be breastfeeeding your 8 month old baby. Know that what you are doing is the best thing for your baby, nutritionally and emotionally. You are fortunate that your breastfeeding experience has been successful, there are many Mum’s out there who haven’t been as lucky and would love to be in your position now. I was not confident breastfeeding my first baby in public, but now with number two I don’t care at all – he is just having his lunch – what person in their right mind would cast a judgement on that? Breastfeed your baby for as long as YOU want to. Know that breastmilk is an important source of your baby’s nutrition for at least the first 12 months of life. Please try not to listen to people who are not positive and supportive of your decisions. You are doing a great job, keep up the good work. xo

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        catiepie

        Thanks Katie. It was a real struggle to get breast feeding established, it took me six weeks of working on it (I saw lactation consultants, midwives, had laser treatment on my poor cracked nipples, tried the breast shields, expressed endlessly to save my poor nipples but keep up my supply…believe me I came very close to thinking it wasn’t going to work and there were many tears…but I persisted and slowly it came good. My heartfelt sympathy to girls where it just doesn’t work. But its so beautiful and so worth it. Now my girl feeds like a dream, She’s got gorgeous fat legs and it’s so lovely… I do try to keep it private, I don’t like being exposed but if she needs it and there are no options I will feed her with a little wrap over the top (which she hopefully won’t pull off!). Thanks for your encouragement, I appreciate it. Being a mum is a joyous but complex journey.

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    Flutterby

    Here is my post baby exercise plan:

    Wake up, feed baby.
    Sleep
    Wake up, feed baby
    Sleep
    Wake up, feed baby
    Stay up, do other stuff.
    Feed baby.
    Eat
    Feed baby
    Eat
    Feed baby
    Do stuff with my kids
    Put everyone to bed
    Smile at Mr By before I go back to sleep…..

    That’s it and that’s all it will be for the first few months.

    Wasn’t it Sweathog (the fittest Mia poster I know) said something like “it’s 80% what you put in your body that counts”? Lifting and holding my bub will be my weight training.

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    Ladies

    I wonder why us intelligent women are pulled into a debate like this. These celebrities jobs are to look job and they spend a lot of money doing it. There is no way that unless you have a couple of nannies that you could do what these women are doing. It has been 18 months since i have had my twins and I have a live in au pair and work full time and even getting up at 5 a,m. in the morning and doing an hour of exercise I still can’t lose the weight that i put on. But that could be because I am still breastfeeding my girls (which is better for them). But who cares I have to beautiful girls that are healthy and intelligent. They love me and I love them, it that more important. If we cared more about ourselves and not what other people are doing we all would be happier.

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    Interesting rant, I can both sides of this weighloss argument. I am one of the women who find it hellish to get the weight off after a baby. I had my third just over a year ago.The idea of being a ‘yummy mummy’ played on me so much, that, in part, it put me into hospital and I was treated for PND. After than I was in at Tresilian (who do a marvelous job) to sort out my non sleeping baby. So the year which was supposed to be a beautiful time with my new baby girl ended up being one of the hardest years of my life. Without support from other mums, my family and partner I wouldn’t have survived the year and that is the honest truth. We really need to ensure, as mentioned in the article, that women are supported mentally. Once you are supported that mentally, exercise can be part of your life if you want it or if you don’t well that’s your choice. I know what I looked like before my little girl and I do want to get back to that but not because society now expects it but because I want to be fit and healthy and live to see my little girl grow up. Time is on my side, yes it is.

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    Chasing A Miracle

    LOVE the article this needs to be plastered in the magazines not that other rubbish!

    It took me 9 months to put it on and 9 months to take it off! This picture is a YEAR difference, and i went hard core…

    God knows who could ‘really’ do it in 5 weeks… not any real human being

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    fm

    well said, Mia!

    it’d also be nice for the rest of the population who have never been pregnant to realise that pregnant bodies don’t just vanish within a few weeks. The magazine covers seem to affect their expectations as well, which certainly doesn’t help.

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    Sparkle

    I would be highly interested Mia for you to comment on your thoughts on Michelle Bridges ‘Huggies’ weightloss program for pregnant women or new mums

    http://news.yahoo.com/huggies-michelle-bridges-team-exclusive-health-fitness-program-230210806.html

    Is this too ‘pressuring’ women or ‘bullying women’ into losing baby weight when they should be doting on their new bubs? Is it any different to the Jenny Craig promotions that you are so offended by? I ask this as you seem to be quite friendly with Michelle so I am wondering if you are prepared to state your opinion on this despite any possible friendship. Its easy to attack people you have no relationship with (i.e Mel B – alas I am assuming you have no friendship there).

    Or, do you agree with me, that it (Mich Bridges Huggies 12wbt) provides women with a safe, supportive and achievable way of dropping some kilos with respect to their current condition?

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      Michelle

      I would argue this is still pressuring mums to conform to an ideal. and to sell a fitness program.

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        Isn’t it just pressuring mums to conform to yet another ideal by denying them the opportunity to pursue exercise and diet programs?

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      Miche

      Yes, I see your point; however, Michelle Bridges’ program appears to be a healthy way to get back to being fit, and losing the baby weight. It’s a woman’s choice and right to do that, if that is what she wants. And plenty of us do! The workouts out there do not cater for a mother with a young baby; there is nothing wrong with wanting to be slimmer, fitter, and healthier. But there is something massively wrong with these before and after photos (especially when fake) that cause some women to feel insecure. Michelle has helped so many people live a healthier life. These magazines probably cause eating disorders: they only focus on weight, and looks, how shallow and demeaning to women!

      Mia, is a shining example of a person who exercises, lives a healthy life, and cares about how women feel. That is the point. How. Women. Feel!

      Michelle and Mia are excellent role models for gen x and gen y!

      I would never buy these magazines. They disgust me. I will always read Mia’s blog; it empowers me.

      MORE fitness advice. MORE motivation advice. MORE health advice.

      Above all: we need to be healthy. Not skinny. Not compared to one another.

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        Sparkle

        Hi Miche,
        I totally agree with you. I think Michelle Bridges is just amazing and am actually doing her 12WBT myself (not the pregnancy one). I do not at all debate Mia’s or your comment regarding the horrendous photoshopped before / after images..and I NEVER buy those trashy mags as I quite like my soul and wish for it to stay in tact!

        Where I do scratch my head is Mias attack on Mel B being the face of Jenny Craig. I too think having programs targeted to help women regain fitness, and overall health while dropping a few kg is a good thing and not at all ‘pressuring’ women to look perfect right after giving birth. I used Mich Bridges as she has no mention of this program in her post so genuinely wanted to know her thoughts on this, particularly as Mia has posted wonderfully positive things about Mish in the past.

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          Sparkle

          But it looks like I am getting no response from Mia anyway. Enough said!

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            Miche

            She’s probably working out. Now that I’d love to see her blog about. Photos included!

            I think that is half the attraction to women buying these mags, and looking on the internet: we just want good advice, and a manageable workout. It’s a pity about all the misinformation about health and exercise that is out there, because it just makes it feel so unattainable.And when I hear about eating disorders, I just wish the photoshopping and crap about losing baby weight in five weeks were made illegal.

            I was inspired to see Mia’s blog about motivation: that was great.

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      I agree

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    Bodies are bodies. They are highly complex machines designed to perform particular functions. In the case of most women, childbirth is one of those functions. A woman’s height, ethnicity and intelligence have no bearing on her ability to give birth to a baby, and for the vast majority of women, neither does her weight (unless she is extremely obese or underweight).

    I agree with Mia that pregnant photos should not be used as “before” shots. All that a pregnant photo says is “There was once a baby in there”. Even many slim women are still likely to have a baby bump for at least a few weeks after the birth.

    I was fortunate enough to “bounce back” as they say, and I was wearing non-maternity clothes two days after my daughter was born. Good on me. Did my skin on my stomach look like it used to? No! Did I do anything in particular to fit into my old jeans? No! I am lucky, it’s just my body type. Does that make me a bad person? Am I an unrealistic role model? Pfft.

    The issue here is that there is not enough attention paid to healthy living habits DURING pregnancy. So many women (but certainly not all) use pregnancy as an excuse to “blow out” and then they want to magically go back to their pre-pregnancy body. It just doesn’t work that way.

    Perhaps if the “eating for two” myth was debunked (sure, nutritional needs change, but the baby does not “want chocolate cake”), then women would generally be healthier (not necessarily slimmer) after they gave birth.

    Jenny Craig is not advertising that they will get rid of your stretch marks, fix your misaligned pelvis, or heal cracked nipples. They are offering a weight loss solution. And many women blow out during pregnancy… so it makes sense to target their marketing here.

    I’m not saying bigger women should suddenly decide to lose weight while they’re pregnant – this is dangerous. I’m just saying that if your body weight was healthy enough to conceive, carry and give birth to a baby, then your body weight at the end of it should be healthy too.

    All mothers should be focusing on caring for their newborns and recovering from the trauma of birth. Looking after yourself during your pregnancy helps with that.

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    Well said, Mia. That is all. xx

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    Thanks Mia! While I have no issue with Mel B’s association with Jenny Craig, I think this kind of marketing can become added pressure for women who are having difficulty adjusting to motherhood. My second daughter is now eight months, and seeing pictures of Miranda Kerr and Rebecca Judd (wife of AFL footballer Chris Judd) was frustrating, due to the media slant of how they ‘bounced back.’ Generally, I am rational and appreciated the extra help and genetic makeup these women possess. But on days when I was still in my PJ’s at lunchtime, desperate just to have a shower and go to the gym or a walk (for my mental and physical health), it did my head in.
    Threrefore Mia, I appreciate your posts highlighting the ‘other end of the spectrum.’ It provides a balance in the media, and hopefully helps women to realise that all pregnancies and bodies are different.

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    Mum of 2

    I was horrified when I heard about this too. It seems the pressure is getting worse, even since I had my children within the last 8 years. I’m not someone who would ever bow to this kind of pressure, but I am still horrified to think of ANYONE being affected by it. I am still gobsmacked by a reaction I received when someone found out I was breast feeding my then-7-month old bub – they could not believe I had not yet given it up and told me that feeding past 6 months was ‘kind of creepy’. At just 6 months?? And the other girls who have said that they wouldn’t breast feed because it was just wrong. It’s articles in the media that have somehow convinced these girls to have these attitudes – they sure wouldn’t have been born with them! I am not at all starting anything on breast feeding – I am just bringing up the damage that articles like the ones that will soon show up about Mel B can amazingly do. It’s very very sad.

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    I agree completely with you Mia but let’s also not put down the mother who purely wants to lose the weight so she can feel like her old trim self again. I know Mel B is doing it all for money/endorsements but my older sister was an extremely fit athlete before she had her first baby and she couldn’t wait to get back to her pre baby body. Not because of what people thought or the magazines but because that’s how she had always been and felt healthy. Mind you she didn’t do it in 6 weeks (took about 3 months) but she was always shocked when people frowned upon her for losing the weight so fast. It was natural for her body and I know she is one of the lucky ones but I was amazed how rude some people were to her.

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    I am concerned that no one has mentioned their doctor’s advice. Most of us don’t get the ok to return to exercise ( other than walking) until our check up 6 weeks post baby. Regardless of our personal choices And situations i think it is very irresponsible that the reminder to consult your doctor before joining has been omitted.

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    Susan As Well

    For anyone who is interested:

    The findings from a recent UK survey undertaken by
    Netmums and The Royal College of Midwives (RCMs)
    support that new mums feel pressure to lose weight.
    Of the 6252 women surveyed, approximately 67%
    reported that they were anxious about their weight after
    the birth (independent of pre-pregnancy weight), and
    60% said that today’s celebrity culture meant that they
    put more pressure on themselves to lose weight quickly
    after having their baby (Netmums and RCM 2010).

    ‘Dieting’ is not recommended
    before, during or immediately after pregnancy.
    It is particularly important that women who are breastfeeding
    do not ‘diet’ … it is important that women have realistic expectations about how long it may take them to achieve their pre-pregnancy weight.
    For some women, it may be only a few weeks post-birth,
    for others, it may take 6–12 months and some may
    never return to their pre-pregnancy weight.

    from: The British Nutrition Foundation.

    http://0-onlinelibrary.wiley.com.library.ecu.edu.au/doi/10.1111/j.1467-3010.2011.01891.x/pdf

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    Right Mia, breeeeaathe!!!
    Jenny Craig and 4-week-post-delivery Mel B is wrong on so many levels. I’m glad you wrote this article Mia, otherwise I would have been doing the yelling. What are they thinking!?!?!??! I just lost all faith and positive thoughts about Jenny Craig. I don’t care how they’re going to sell this one, a mum with a four-week-old shouldn’t have any energy left to worry about weight loss. Heck, it’s hard enough to get the nutition you need to bounce back (in particular if you’re breastfeeding), so please, PLEASE forget all about dieting!!!

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      Considering no two women have the same body, pregnancy or birth, I’d be careful about saying what a new mum “should” feel…

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    No problem with ANYONE who wants to get healthy (and I’m sure Mia doesn’t either). Or anyone who focuses on getting back to their pre-baby weight. But unrealistic expectations of new mothers are damaging. I only realized that people don’t pop back last year ( On this site actually). So well done for pointing that out Mia.

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    The thing that gets me the most is how damaging this kind of article is to women in general. Mia paints us as so weak, so pathetic, so fragile.. that if a magazine dares put a picture of someone who is different from us in any way, we will break into a thousand pieces from the terrible imaginary pressure that we must feel to look this way. We couldn’t possibly just decide, on our own, to be healthy or to regain some of our pre-baby fitness – we have to have been “coerced, guilted and even bullied” into it. Oh, us poor feeble minded women, who base our entire self-worth on a picture in a magazine.. we couldn’t possibly make a decision by ourselves!

    Seriously, magazines are not real life. The same as movies are not real life. Anybody who thinks they are needs their head read And anybody who thinks that it is the rest of the world’s job to make themselves feel good about themselves… well, that’s really sad, and they will be constantly disappointed. The world is full of differences, and every person is unique. No matter what you want, whether it is to be thin, rich, beautiful, or fat, poor and ugly.. someone will always be beating you at it. If a woman feels attacked by other women simply because they are thinner than her… her problem isn’t being fat, it’s being ridiculous.

    Mia constantly beats the drum about body image and self esteem, but if she was really serious, she would realize that she is part of the problem. Magazines or the media in general are never going to be able to cater themselves to every individual woman, because everybody is different. Otherwise they would have to sit down with each individual woman and only feature photos and stories about her in that particular issue – because heaven forbid they should feature someone else that would make her feel abnormal or inadequate.

    Mia commenting on Jools Oliver’s body to be all “WHAT A GOOD ROLE MODEL BLAH BLAH BLAH” is *still* commenting on her body. Isn’t the important thing meant to be her new baby? By focusing on Jool’s body, even in a pseudo-positive way, you are still doing exactly the same thing as all the other magazines – you are still pushing the idea that how a woman’s body looks, whether she has just had a baby or not, is up for discussion and judgment by other people. And attaching the tag ‘normal’ is THE MOST HARMFUL THING you could do. Seriously, Mia?! How many times have you been tripped up by your warped views on body image that ended up offending everybody and achieving nothing? THERE IS NO NORMAL, EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT. And there is no reason for you to be so dismissive and rude about women who don’t adhere to whatever the particular ‘norm’ is that you have attached yourself to.

    Deriding Mel B’s choice to lose weight so soon after her baby and then insinuating that she is putting her body before looking after her baby – how is that not shaming her? Mia claims to be anti-judgment, but this is ridiculous. Taking care of yourself and a baby are not mutually exclusive, and in no way does being an overweight, unshowered, slovenly mess with no self-esteem make a woman a better mother. This comes down to feminism 101, and Mia fails, as always. It’s Mel B’s choice, it’s any woman’s choice – quit with the endless judgment already.

    Even doctors will tell you that everyone’s post-baby recovery is different. Some women might retain fluid that lasts for weeks, have issues with abdominal muscle separation, have complications related to bedrest, or they might still be bleeding 8 weeks later. Other women might waltz into hospital complaining of some minor cramps and march out a few hours later with their new baby, they might be shocked at how flat their stomach is as soon as the baby is out, they might not have even put on any weight during their pregnancy, hell, some might even feel recovered enough to start running again, for exercise, or just a few moments of mental space in amongst those crazy first weeks. These women don’t deserve to be demonized for their experience, just because their experience is different than yours.

    So Mia, please, stop being such a bitch about women, their choices, their bodies, etc. You are so worried about how imaginary pictures in a magazine could make women feel bad about themselves for not measuring up to what is presented as normal. Why don’t you, a real person who should have more conscience than a magazine, stop making women feel bad about themselves because they don’t measure up to what you consider normal?

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      I don’t think I read the same article as you Anonymous.

      I saw much support for women in Mia’s article.

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        Mia refers to Mel B and her choices as “wrong”.

        She presents Jools Oliver as an example of what a post-partum woman should look like (as yet another ‘norm’ for women to compare themselves to).

        She states definitively that “bodies don’t bounce back after birth” and positions anybody whose did as an abnormal minority who don’t count.

        And despite saying this – “The most important thing you do after having a baby is NOT to lose weight. It’s to prioritise the mental and physical health of your baby and yourself” – she totally fails to recognize that for some women (YES MIA, THEY MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS YOU BUT THEY STILL EXIST), losing their baby weight and regaining their fitness may be key to their physical and mental health, and they should be supported in that and applauded for their efforts, not painted as evil vain women who obviously don’t care about their babies and are hellbent on making everybody else feel bad.

        It’s awful. My friend had a baby, and the first thing she did upon getting home from the hospital was wanting to go for a long walk, leaving baby with Dad. She was mentally exhausted from what she had been through and needed time to process her new role, and that was therapeutic for her. She continued to walk, alone, several times a week and eventually stepped that up to running. She got her old body back soon enough and she also got the time out that she needed, to just think, and let the Dad get some one-on-one baby time as well. And thanks to the well-meaning but misguided positions on post-baby body image like this, she was lambasted by family and friends for being so selfish and image-obsessed as to waste precious time that she could have spent with her newborn. She explained it to me like this – she did not cease to be a woman when she became a mother, but her body made her feel like a completely different person. Getting back to something like the body she had before helped her feel like she could meld these two identities together, and she felt a hell of a lot better about herself.

        The judgment needs to stop, and articles like this are just fuel for the flame. Mia derides anybody who wants to wear a bikini and tells celebrities to put their clothes back on, because how dare they be proud of their bodies if they don’t look like hers. Look at all the comments below hating on Miranda Kerr. She’s a real woman and just as unique as any other woman, yet this article is actively encouraging a culture of hate against anyone who doesn’t fit Mia’s norm. It’s disgusting, and if Mia wanted to do anything to help women realize how broad ‘normal’ really is, she wouldn’t be feeding into this kind of hate and judgment.

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          Susan As Well

          Your posts are losing their credibility.

          “The judgment needs to stop..”

          “This comes down to feminism 101, and Mia fails, as always…”

          “So Mia, please, stop being such a bitch about women..”

          Who is judging who here?

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          Elouise

          I whole heartedly agree with everything you are saying. I use to really admire Mia but now I find her extremely judgmental.

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            Bryter

            Yes, the judging and preaching is coming on a bit thick for me lately too. But that’s not a bad thing. Mia’s positions can – and do – start interesting debates. I am glad that there is a forum such as this for many, many opinions to be expressed. I just wish sometimes Mia (or her staff) would say, “Fair enough. Good point” instead of always commenting defensively.

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              Lol. Good point! Really!

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      missamoo

      You make some excellent points. There is one thing i will say i agree in many ways about magazines putting pressure on women and their image. When i was 15 and at a ballet school that weighed me every monday morning i was required to weigh 48 kgs (I am 168cm tall) anyway. When i moved to a different dance institution they had no problem with my weight i was free to let my body be itself. This is when i began to have little to no sympathy for anorexics because it made no sense to me that unless someone was forcing me to be super super skinny then i wouldn’t have these issues. I also thought people had more sense than to believe that a magazine picture is reality. Fast forward into my career as a dancer/singer and i can give you multiple moment when i have been slapped in the face almost literally by people being unable to distinguish stage from life. I agree people should be smarter than this for their own health but i think Mia has a good reason to fight against the negative images for the vulnerable young minds or even the vulnerable old minds. I personally find as women we do talk about our bodies a great deal from periods to pregnancy to flabby wobbly bits, my sisters and my mum do it all the time. Magazines are an extension of our exploration of what is normal….which way your boobs point or if you have really bad period pain and all that but perhaps they take our thoughts and conversations and turn them on us until we are a little turned about. Which is why i think the conversations are the valuable bits. Even if we disagree infact especially so

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        I kind of responded to your comment in what I said in my below comment, for anon for this.

        With the talking about wobbly bits, oh yes – I was at a wedding a few months ago squeezed into some spanx, just so I could wear a dress that was probably slightly too small around the hips. I was horribly uncomfortable, but only my sister knew my secret and was giggling at me all night. I told her, but I didn’t disclose this to every other person I met – isn’t that another kind of illusion, or even wearing lipstick? Some vulnerable woman could think I was thinner than I was, or that my lips were naturally that colour..

        I have been a singer/actor in the past too and can relate to people reacting towards you as if you were still playing your character. But I resent the fact that Mia doesn’t understand the complex ways in which women victimize each other well enough to use her reach to prevent it, and help people have a better grasp of what is real versus what is fiction. If magazines are portraying fictions of post-birth women are ‘normal’, Mia is doing exactly the same disservice to women by acting as though there *is* a “normal”, because there isn’t.

        It’s just sad and very disheartening that she can’t see how there doesn’t need to be hatred and judgment. Nobody needs to be punished for being wrong or a bad role model. How can anybody be an example of normal, when everybody will have a different experience? It would be infinitely more helpful for Mia to be able to wrap her head around the fact that everybody is different, nobody is normal, and that there is nothing wrong with anybody’s experience – the problem lies in experiences that are fictional (either in photos or text) but presented as real, and how there are apparently all these women who can’t decode them as fantasies. A better article would be about finding post-baby self-esteem and body image from within, based on your own body, rather than media (fantasy) or others (whose experience will *always* be different to yours). Or actually featuring photos from the Shape of a Mother website without labelling one as more ‘real’ that the others (I think that’s what it’s called), and showing that pregnancy and birth affect *all* women differently – not just splitting people into groups of ‘everybody’ and then ‘the lucky skinny bitch who doesn’t deserve a say’. I just seriously don’t understand why someone who has this potential to reach women is so intent in broadcasting the same damaging messages as she is supposedly trying to fight, when there are so many constructive ways she could help women and new mothers know what to base their self-esteem on.

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      anon for this

      i am a women. i am a feminist. but that photo of miranda kerr naked on the bed TOTALLY did my head in yesterday.

      i hate my body. i have REALLY struggled to lose the baby weight that i put on with each child. i have such poor body image it damn well consumes me.

      i know that isn’t miranda kerr’s fault or any other celebrity who are so keen to show off their body after baby, but they really do need to consider the sisterhood. if you do insist on selling some photos, how about a mention of your nanny, personal trainer and chef? or the c/section at 36 weeks, or that you are on a ridiculously strict diet (like gwyenth admitted about the oscar’s prep) be genuine, or that you never get up to the baby overnight. don’t tell me some organic tofu and a bit of yoga got you there.

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        See, here is the problem. It’s not in other women’s realities, it’s in the fantasies that magazines push. It’s unethical for magazines to publish photos that vastly misrepresent someone’s post-baby body, or for them to misquote people to further whatever illusion it is they are trying to push, or leave out the fact that someone does serious hours in the gym to look the way they do. But they are called out on it constantly.. women *know* that images are photoshopped, that articles are often mostly made up, that celebrities might have access to help that they wouldn’t be able to afford.

        Do we really need to idiot-proof everything to the point where nobody could possibly feel inadequate? Yes, magazines should have to print when they feature ‘shopped images. But should movies come with disclaimers stating the actresses BMIs, diets and fitness plans, so that ordinary people don’t get confused? Should regular people have to walk around with signs on their heads saying “hey, I had a baby a week ago and look like my old self, but don’t look at me – I’m abnormal, so therefore not a good role model”?

        It seems like *this* is the problem, rather than the fact that these women exist (which is what Mia is trying to create ire against). Perhaps there needs to be more articles about people basing their self-esteem on themselves, rather than outside influences that don’t always appear as they are. Even facebook – sure, you get the occassional Eeyore, but it can be hard to feel good about your own life when you are getting a feed of everyone else’s holidays, engagements, new babies, weddings, happy photos, exciting job offers, etc etc. But at some point you realize – it’s only a snippet, a carefully edited snapshot of the best of their life, and you are probably doing the same thing. Everyone edits. In life, in magazines, everywhere.

        Instead of blaming body image issues and self-esteem on magazines or celebrities, people like Mia should be using their reach to help people find their self-worth and beauty inside themselves, to recognize illusions for what they are, and to realize that not two people are the same but that doesn’t make one of them wrong – because that’s what is going on here, and it’s sick. The only way judgment will stop is when people stop seeing normal/abnormal, but realizing there is a whole spectrum of different experiences that are equally valid.

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          Sailorgirl

          very well written anonymous, I agree with Mia, but I also like your take on it

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        Anonymous

        I think it is really sad that you hate your body. I have been several weights over my time, and I have never hated my body. I have been critical of how it has looked at times, but never hate. I mean, you have it ALL the time so why direct that much negative energy into something that carries you around constantly. Just let go, live your life and let something else take the place of that energy…..please

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      Anon, I think calling Mia a bitch to women is taking it far but other than that, you raise some excellent points and it’s always great to hear a voice of reason amongst women who have somehow convinced themselves that it’s Rebecca Judd’s job to improve their self esteem.

      I am so sick and tired of painting women as these fragile victims who blame everyone else for their problems. I’ve heard it all on this website, it’s the fashion industry’s fault, it’s the media’s fault, it’s Miranda Kerr’s fault, it’s everyone else’s fault. Don’t you all get sick of blaming everyone else for your poor self esteem? Does there ever come a time when you take a look inside yourself and take responsibility for your life and your feelings?

      I think Mia knows all to well that she has many blind followers here who will cheer anything she says so I am disappointed that she gives women so little credit and that she encourages women to come here and be victims when instead she could use her influence to encourage women to be strong, take control of their life and stop blaming some Spice Girl for their problems.

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        Elouise

        You are 100% right.

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    Anna Sparkle

    i had my first bub 9 months ago, and through breastfeeding and eating alot more sensibly after my son was born, (i.e. not hitting fastfood drivethroughs on my way home from work every day like i did wen i was pregnant!!!!) and walking as often as the weather and a new bub allowed, i am now 12kg lighter than i was even before i fell pregnant. its wonderful to be fitting clothes again that i havnt worn since highschool , and i know ive been lucky as the weight fell off and it certainly doesnt happen that way for everyone.

    however my body in no way looks the same now as it did when i was this size 10 years ago… boobs are saggy, stretch marks everywhere, my c-section scar, and my mum and nanas genetic gift to me – ugly, hated varicose veins all over the legs i once proudly displayed in a mini skirt. in many ways though i am more confident with my body than i ever have been. after all, this body took a tiny ball of cells and turned it into a little person,and i am proud of it!!

    i never pay much attention to any of the gossip mags with headlines screaming that this celeb lost 86kgs in the first wk after baby and that celeb shares secret shock slimdown etc etc….all bullshit. anyone with the money for trainers and nutritionists and nannies can lose weight fast, plus with the celebrity culture the way it is today, its pretty much their job to be thin. and i know just how much photoshop can change a body before it goes to print!!

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      dkmum

      Love your story, especially the visualisation of the ball of cells. Thanks!

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    JellyBelly

    To be honest I don’t feel pressure to drop the weight when looking at magazine photos of Kendra etc, because I know they are always photoshopped. However, I feel pressure from those around me, eg: mum from mother’s group told me last week to make sure I pack control underwear in my hospital bag as this will help weight loss in the tummy area after i give birth. Ummm hello, this is my 3rd baby and I’m freaking out about looking after 3 kids and not concerned about my post baby weight at all.

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      Anonymous

      Isn’t the pressure underwear more to help cut down on fluid retention and help the uterus get back to its original shape? Because you can’t really lose weight in an individual spot..

      From my research, I think the pressure underwear is more based on the stomach binding they do in certain cultures after birth, to help support the uterus and help it as it’s contracting over the post-partum weeks.

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      Em

      I agree, I don’t feel I am pressuring myself, and I know those photos are unrealistic. I’d simply like to fit into some more of my pre pregnancy clothes but as bubs is only 10 weeks I’ll just let nature take its course like it did last time. Breastfeeding makes me ravenous – eating porridge as we speak (dessert for lunch) and I’m focused on making milk for bubs. A happy full settled bubs is a happy mum!. I do agree that there is external pressure, people who haven’t experienced pregnancy, or the general public, see those images on the cover of the ridiculous Kendra or whatever, and feel free to comment on women’s size during pregnancy and post-natal.

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    ber

    Just once, I would LOVE for a celebrity to admit that their post-baby weight loss was difficult. I believe that the constant barrage of these post-pregnancy-slim-down stories IS very damaging to a lot of women. But the additional comments about the weight just “coming off due to a good diet and yoga” make the articles all the more difficult to stomach (excuse the pun).

    Models’ bodies are their currency. However, I think that they do many women a disservice by claiming that maintaining that image post-birth is simple and easy.

    I’m a slender, single 27-year-old and have no children. I am actually quite terrified about the changes to my body that would result from having a baby.

    I think, to a large extent, I have absorbed these fears from a media banging on about thinness so relentlessly that they don’t even allow new mothers to relax into their changed bodies and changed lives without being conscious of perfection.

    These stories are NOT about health; they are about appearance.

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      Amy

      After Liv Tyler gave birth to her son, she didn’t ‘get back’ to her ‘pre-baby body’ for over two years. I ADORE Liv Tyler because she has always refused to lose weight for roles (I think I saw it reported that she’s always a 12-14), telling directors etc ‘if you want me in your film, you take me as I am – otherwise you don’t really want me’. I remember seeing all these ridiculous articles after about 6 months stating ‘Liv’s heartbreak at her battle to lose baby weight’. But then I saw an interview with her where they asked about it, and she laughed and said ‘I wasn’t even thinking about that! I’ve been enjoying being with my new son, and who has the time, let alone the energy, to lose that weight?’
      I nearly cheered when I saw it. Magazines perpetuate this crap that any women who is thinner than the average ‘perfect’ hollywood figure is anorexic, but the moment they gain the tiniest amount of weight for whatever reason its the star’s ‘heartbreak’ at not being able to lose it! Liv was seriously not interested in losing the weight and believed she’d do it in her own time, if at all. Love her.

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    Am

    Can someone pls forward this article to Miranda Kerr-does she really think she’s helping new mums by parading her supermodel body around…naked???!

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      ClaireC

      Maybe, but obviously Miranda is blessed with a genetic make up that only a tiny fraction of the population has, this affects the way she looked pre pregnancy (which was unattainable to 99% of the population) and clearly affects how her body responds after giving birth. It’s not her fault she looks like that, for her it is normal and I don’t think she should feel the need to hide herself away.

      I liked the way Sarah Jessica Parker responded to people who told her how amazing she looked after giving birth to her son. She said that there was no way she could look like that without staff – a cook, nanny, trainer, housekeeper etc.

      Surely most people know that those celeb pics are photoshopped and just done to boost people’s careers and keep them in the spotlight.

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        Mo5

        While I am not a fan of Miranda actually, nothing big, she does just not do it for me lol I gave birth when I was young and my body bounced back amazingly. At my 6 week check up the doctor laughed and said, did you even have a baby? It can happen, and Miranda was svelt before hand too, so it makes sense as she didn’t seem to get too big in her pregnancy.

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      Anonymous

      See all the below comments.

      If you didn’t look like Miranda Kerr before you got pregnant, you’re not going to look like her after. Miranda is allowed to be proud of the way her pregnant body looked – she shouldn’t have to hide it because it makes other people feel inadequate. She is a model, after all..

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      Diana

      Oh give me a break, it’s not her job to make you feel good about yourself, she’s a model and is just doing her job. Why should she have to hide in oversized clothing to make the women of Australia feel good about themselves.

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      rainbow

      as much as she bangs on about being wholesome and organic and healthy, she is a business women first and foremost, i don’t think she would care two hoots about how she might make new mothers feel, she wants to increase her profile no matter how she gets there.

      i personally find her completely irritating. especially when she talks about “juggling being a working mother”. oh pu-lease, how hard can it be to hand the baby to the nanny. she would not need the money, she is doing it because she wants to. women who work long, hard hours for mininum wages, with little or no help can have my sympathy…

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      Nulligravida

      Oh yeah, Miranda Kerr — like all naturally thin women — sit in their Evil Genius Hideaway staving themseleves and snorting cocaine, orating to their assembled minions while rubbing their hands in glee “oh yes, my cunning plan will undermine the self-esteem of fatties. Oh yes! Wait until they get a load of me. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!”

      The conventionally attractive who appear in magazines and in the streets do this with the sole intention of conspiring to upset others who have not conformed.

      And damn! Those with working legs are just walking to spite the people who have a disability. Really.

      *shakes head*

      For goodness sake, stop reading stupid women’s magazines, ignore commercial television and Hollywood films if this bothers you so much. They are out to MAKE MONEY by selling you cures for a confected ugliness. If they effectively undermine your self-esteem, they are on their way to getting your money.

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      Elouise

      She isn’t trying to help women, she is trying to do her job – model.

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    kimbalikes

    I didn’t look like Miranda Kerr (et al) before I was pregnant. I see no reason why I should be compelled to try and look like her afterwards!

    Now that I think about it, I was back within my jeans within a week or so, but they didn’t quite look the same. I lost my baby weight relatively quickly and easily but I could not lose my 5kgs of IVF weight. That took another 9 months, I think.

    My body will never be the same again. My C cups are now a G cup (but same back size), my stomach had a 10 pound baby and an emergency caesar. Hell, even my feet went up a size! But I will never again be 25 or 30 or even 35. I’m now more a 10-12 than the 8-10 I was for years and I’m OK with that.

    I don’t want to be an overweight old before my time old bag, (and I’m certainly not advocating that) but I don’t see why everyone wants to look 22. Or have the body of a 22 year old. Boring!

    I think it is sad that Scary Spice went back to work when her baby was a week old and I hope that didn’t contribute to her milk drying up at 3 weeks post birth. It’s her choice and her body and her baby and her career but I do feel sad that she missed that marvellous first couple of weeks just cocooning with your newborn.

    I think the pressure put on celebrity mums is quite sad. The story of Kendra’s post birth photo shoot contract is really sad too.

    But what I think is really sad is people who feel that they have to do the same. Normal, every day people without dieticians, personal chefs, full time nannies, housekeepers. I don’t understand how people can say things like “Oh, I hate that model because she looks so good and makes me feel like a failure”. She’s a MODEL.

    You’ve given birth to a beautiful baby and you’ll eventually lose the weight when you’ve got time to do something other than nurture that new life that can’t survive without you. I can’t understand why someone would beat themselves up because they don’t look the same.

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    Grace

    I think some people are really missing the point Mia is making here. These articles are not inspirational, hey look how I got healthy and confident stories. They are fake photo shopped pics with look I’m the perfect mum and my weight just fell off stories.They just make you feel crap and confused….

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      Mia

      Yes! Thank you!

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        Anonymous

        Then why don’t you just say that Mia? Plain and simple about the photoshopping etc. Instead you bang on and on about so much other stuff. If the point you were trying to make was just as Grace said, you did a bad job of trying to get it across.