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Were you wrapped in bubbles as a kid? Today, we are a generation of worriers. This is not always a bad thing. Like, say, the way we give a shit about the planet (well, most of us). But for parents who worry – and the kids they worry about – what is the effect of all this angst?

I was recently pointed in the direction of a Time article (thanks Chas) about Helicopter Parents (and their Bubble-Wrap Kids) that said…

bubble Bubble Wrap kids. Do the kids or the parents need to harden up?

The insanity crept up on us slowly; we just wanted what was best for our kids. We bought macrobiotic cupcakes and hypoallergenic socks, hired tutors to correct a 5-year-old’s “pencil-holding deficiency,” hooked up broadband connections in the treehouse but took down the swing set after the second skinned knee. We hovered over every school, playground and practice field — “helicopter parents,” teachers christened us, a phenomenon that spread to parents of all ages, races and regions.

Stores began marketing stove-knob covers and “Kinderkords” (also known as leashes; they allow “three full feet of freedom for both you and your child”) and Baby Kneepads (as if babies don’t come prepadded). The mayor of a Connecticut town agreed to chop down three hickory trees on one block after a woman worried that a stray nut might drop into her new swimming pool, where her nut-allergic grandson occasionally swam.

We were so obsessed with our kids’ success that parenting turned into a form of product development. Parents demanded that nursery schools offer Mandarin, since it’s never too soon to prepare for the competition of a global economy. High school teachers received irate text messages from parents protesting an exam grade before class was even over; college deans described freshmen as “crispies,” who arrived at college already burned out, and “teacups,” who seemed ready to break at the tiniest stress. (See pictures of the college dorm’s evolution.)

This is what parenting had come to look like at the dawn of the 21st century — just one more extravagance, the Bubble Wrap waiting to burst.

A backlash against overparenting had been building for years, but now it reflects a new reality. Since the onset of the Great Recession, according to a CBS News poll, a third of parents have cut their kids’ extracurricular activities. They downsized, downshifted and simplified because they had to — and often found, much to their surprise, that they liked it. When a TIME poll last spring asked how the recession had affected people’s relationships with their kids, nearly four times as many people said relationships had gotten better as said they’d gotten worse. “This is one of those moments when everything is on the table, up for grabs,” says Carl Honoré, whose book Under Pressure: Rescuing Our Children from the Culture of Hyper-Parenting is a gospel of the slow-parenting movement. He likens the sudden awareness to the feeling you get when you wake up after a long night carousing, the lights go on, and you realize you’re a mess. “That horrible moment of self-recognition is where we are culturally. I wanted parents to realize they are not alone in thinking this is insanity, and show there’s another way.”

The article (which you can read in full here) also talks about the insidious creeping of fear into the way we parent our kids…..

Fear is a kind of parenting fungus: invisible, insidious, perfectly designed to decompose your peace of mind. Fear of physical danger is at least subject to rational argument; fear of failure is harder to hose down. What could be more natural than worrying that your child might be trampled by the great, scary, globally competitive world into which she will one day be launched? It is this fear that inspires parents to demand homework in preschool, produce the snazzy bilingual campaign video for the third-grader’s race for class rep, continue to provide the morning wake-up call long after he’s headed off to college.

Once obsessing about kids’ safety and success became the norm, a kind of orthodoxy took hold, and heaven help the heretics — the ones who were brave enough to let their kids venture outside without Secret Service protection. Just ask Lenore Skenazy, who to this day, when you Google “America’s Worst Mom,” fills the first few pages of results — all because one day last year she let her 9-year-old son ride the New York City subway alone. A newspaper column she wrote about it somehow ignited a global firestorm over what constitutes reasonable risk. She had reporters calling from China, Israel, Australia, Malta. (“Malta! An island!” she marvels. “Who’s stalking the kids there? Pirates?”) Skenazy decided to fight back, arguing that we have lost our ability to assess risk. By worrying about the wrong things, we do actual damage to our children, raising them to be anxious and unadventurous or, as she puts it, “hothouse, mama-tied, danger-hallucinating joy extinguishers.”

free1 Bubble Wrap kids. Do the kids or the parents need to harden up?

Skenazy, a Yale-educated mom who with her husband is raising two boys in New York City, had ingested all the same messages as the rest of us. Her sons’ school once held a pre-field-trip assembly explaining exactly how close to a hospital the children would be at all times. She confesses to being “at least part Sikorsky,” hiring a football coach for a son’s birthday and handing out mouth guards as party favors. But when the Today show had her on the air to discuss her subway decision, interviewer Ann Curry turned to the camera and asked, “Is she an enlightened mom or a really bad one?”

freerange Bubble Wrap kids. Do the kids or the parents need to harden up?

From that day and the food fight that followed, she launched her Free Range Kids blog, which eventually turned into her own Dangerous Book for Parents: Free-Range Kids: Giving Our Children the Freedom We Had Without Going Nuts with Worry. There is no rational reason, she argues, that a generation of parents who grew up walking alone to school, riding mass transit, trick-or-treating, teeter-tottering and selling Girl Scout cookies door to door should be forbidding their kids to do the same. But somehow, she says, “10 is the new 2. We’re infantilizing our kids into incompetence.”

She celebrates seat belts and car seats and bike helmets and all the rational advances in child safety. It’s the irrational responses that make her crazy, like when Dear Abby endorses the idea, as she did in August, that each morning before their kids leave the house, parents take a picture of them. That way, if they are kidnapped, the police will have a fresh photo showing what clothes they were wearing. Once the kids make it home safe and sound, you can delete the picture and take a new one the next morning.

That advice may seem perfectly sensible to parents bombarded by heartbreaking news stories about missing little girls and the predator next door. But too many parents, says Skenazy, have the math all wrong. Refusing to vaccinate your children, as millions now threaten to do in the case of the swine flu, is statistically reckless; on the other hand, there are no reports of a child ever being poisoned by a stranger handing out tainted Halloween candy, and the odds of being kidnapped and killed by a stranger are about 1 in 1.5 million.

When parents confront you with “How can you let him go to the store alone?,” she suggests countering with “How can you let him visit your relatives?” (Some 80% of kids who are molested are victims of friends or relatives.) Or ride in the car with you? (More than 430,000 kids were injured in motor vehicles last year.)

“I’m not saying that there is no danger in the world or that we shouldn’t be prepared,” she says. “But there is good and bad luck and fate and things beyond our ability to change. The way kids learn to be resourceful is by having to use their resources.” Besides, she says with a smile, “a 100%-safe world is not only impossible. It’s nowhere you’d want to be.”

Were you wrapped in bubbles as a kid? What do you think? Are you a helicopter parent? Do you know any? Do you think we’ve gone too far with the bubble wrap or are kids really having to contend with so much more danger and so many more risks than we did?

And if it’s NOT more dangerous being a kid today than it was when we were growing up, why have we lost the plot in a way our own parents never did?

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455 Comments so far

  1. Adilson

    I love old man yama, In every fight its like he tries to teach the one attacking him. Its so funny how he shows them how smart he is, And tough he is. i tihnk that is his stergaty, Able to talk them down to lose focus, In the end they get more powerful as to use his teachings. Yet still they will lose lol. Yama is far to tough even with them being healed. I mean cmon its freaking yama, ANd the only one who can take yama down is ichigo, Cause hes the main char lol. Without ichigo its like ..Not bleach anymore.

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  2. MaryNO

    Hi, Just saying hi to this forum.

    Mary

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  3. Mayberry

    As a swimming teacher, I’ve seen the “helicopter” parent phenomenon – I remember one little girl (about 4) who was having her first ever lesson and got some water in her mouth when standing up. She then turned to look at her parents, who started stressing out and going “omigod sweetie you swallowed water” so she started freaking out and crying. Parents immediately pulled her out of the water, and ranted at me that I was the worst person in the world for allowing her to have such a traumatic experience, I was a terrible teacher, and that she was never coming swimming again.

    It scares me that there is such an overreaction to the little things like this – kids cry – they’re designed to realise that they get attention when this happens, so if parents fuss over little things, then kids will fuss too cos they think they should – so many behavioural cues are taken from parents. Another example – mums and bubs class in the water – mothers who are fine with getting splashed and putting their faces and hair in have kids who are fine with this also. Mums who flinch and pull faces when the water hits their face and refuse to get their hair wet have kids like this also (and they’re REALLY REALLY hard to teach to swim)

    basically, don’t sweat the little stuff :)

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  4. Kelly Shaw

    just blogged about this very issue w/ regard to toy recalls, which often happen after Christmas…Are we un-helicopters in the minority? see http://threeunda3.blogspot.com/ to read more and tell me what you think….

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  5. meg

    Good for you mabol

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  6. Ruby

    Three friends of mine lost at least one front adult tooth on a trampoline.

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  7. pixielation

    I wasn’t bubble wrapped as a child. I grew up with an acre of back yard that merged with lane cove national park, and there would be afternoons spent down in the bush for hours. We’d play or swim around the water hole, then come back and tell my mother what we’d been doing.

    We played tennis on the road, and roller skated there too. We sped down the hill on skateboards or go-karts with our friends on lookout for oncoming cars. We didn’t live in a cul-de-sac.

    Now as the mother of 2 small girls I shudder to think of how my mother must have worried when we home and described how we’d jumped off high rocks into the water, and other afternoon pursuits.

    My eldest is only just 8, but this is the age when I started walking around the corner to visit my friend at her house. I’d love to give her that freedom too. But we live in London, and the road is choked with parked cars. It’s a different environment from the wide, clear roads I grew up on. Crossing the road here requires my daughter to walk onto it first to peer out and look up and down the road.

    So I haven’t given her that freedom yet. I will soon. I don’t hover over either of my girls. I give them freedom to be themselves and explore their own imagination.

    Some parents have to “engage” their kids at all times, with organised activities and trips all the time. I don’t recall spending my childhood like that. We entertained ourselves. Sure, it’s lovely to do things with your parents, and that time is also essential and precious. But it’s also important for a child to learn how to engage themselves.

    I remember having a trampoline in the backyard. My mother never supervised us on it. It didn’t have a large net around it. Which was handy – because we used to jump off the side bar of the swingset and onto the trampoline. I could do forward and backward somersaults on the trampolein. And I broke my arm by falling off a brick porch, with my mother 5 feet away, but I never broke a bone on the trampoline.

    You can’t wrap your kids in cotton wool. They need to be able to explore and play. Climb trees and ride bikes. They also need to have been taught aspects of safety, and to take advantages of safety equipment. And know about stranger danger, and not being reckless. But if a broken arm is going to be the result of my children’s freedom, I still wouldn’t revoke it.

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  8. That Girl (Fiona)

    Ooh, something just sprang to my mind, sorta relevant to this topic.
    About a month after my 14th birthday, I took two planes by myself to Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates. Yep, to Arabia. By myself. I was meeting my childhood friend and her family there. I had never been on a plane before, let alone overseas. I wandered around Singapore airport by myself for a few hours. And who cares? My parents had planned this trip for quite a while, and they trusted my 110%. My parents have always been extremely supportive of my independance. And why the heck not? Let’s not bubble wrap our children, let them be free and live life! See the world! Experience everything for themselves! The chances of them being dangerously harmed is minimal. Let’s not restrain them! 8-)
    Also, side note, as a 16 year old, blonde female, I travelled to South Africa this year and returned completely unharmed! Seriously, nothing will happen! (Although I did have the ABSOLUTE TIME OF MY LIFE, I LOVE IT THERE! Can’t wait to go back in March/April again this year….. whoops, did I get off track! Sorry! Lol.)

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  9. LPlates

    Thank you Mabol for your support and understanding. You wrote so eloquently. And thank you for the lesson on Sophie Scholl. I am afraid to say that I had never heard of Sophie or her brother and had to Google them! How very brave they were. xx

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  10. Mizanthrop

    I agree with you Kris2040, but I also understand why he feels this overprotective. I had a friend die the day before his 21st on a motorbike and ever since I’ve had excessive fears about the dangers of them. My husband spends his working days dealing with the unlucky people who make up those gut-wrenching statistics of when things go wrong, so I can understand why he finds it so tough to let his precious kids take those risks.

    But yes, I agree with you that it is both normal and necessary for my kids to take risks, that’s where the fun and excitement of really living comes from. And that’s why I continue with the constant negotiation/battle with my husband over where to draw the line. :)

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  11. mabol

    Actually guest, in a court of law this little girl would have been assumed innocent until proven guilty. She also would have had counsel to assist her, expert witnesses and a jury to deliberate over the evidence, (do you think the evidence here would have stood up to examination in a court of law?). She perhaps also would have had recourse to sue for defamation of character after the false accusations for which she was punished before her guilt had even been established. Possibly recompensed for her pain and suffering of being subject to a harsh and unwarranted interrogation and loss of play time.
    Even if the judgement went against her she still would have had the right of appeal, if she felt there were anomalies in the conduct of the trial or was able to present new evidence. She would have been much better off, in the so called ‘REAL’ world, where she would have had rights and assistance and avenues for appeal and complaint. But you think schools should not be subject to these?

    Yes also her ‘Mummy’, could challenge the police also if she felt that they were acting in an unethical or unwarranted manner or accusing her daughter of something she didn’t do. There are avenues for this within the structure of the legal and police system (for good reason!). I am not sure where you are guest but here is the website for the Crime and Misconduct Commission in Queensland (the watchdog for the public services and police.) You never know when you might need it. I believe there are rough equivalents in each state.

    http://www.cmc.qld.gov.au/asp/index.asp

    It’s good to know these things in case you are ever on the wrong side of police corruption. (Ever heard of Uncle Joh and the Fitzgerald Enqiry?)
    By the way I personally have a HUGE, HUGE respect for the police and the job that they do and the things that they are exposed to. I also think most of the police are not corrupt and do a good job..but not all of them. I also think that they are human and make mistakes and errors of judgement.

    I’m sure, guest that I could name lots and lots of incidences where you yourself would think it was a good idea to challenge the rules and laws. They have often been terribly terribly wrong. Some obvious cases are the laws concerning women in some countries today, and historically, Nazi Germany. A fair amount of research has been done concerning why some people stood up to this regime, either by simply helping the Jewish people or challenging the regime, often at great risk to themselves (have you heard of Sophie Scholl, Hans Scholl, Christoph Probst and the White Rose.. Watch the movie Sophie Scholl it is superb.) These were often people who (from the research I have done) were both taught that is was both okay and sometimes necessary to challenge rules/laws and authority when it was for a good reason and also incidentally were people that say they were often brought up by parents who were not punitive but had solid and firm boundaries. Parents who demonstrated a great amount of respect to other people and also to their children.

    Lplates I think you have done a great thing for your daughter. She seems to have a teacher who is ready to punish children for the slightest transgression (from what I can gather… who interrogates a young child over a silly note anyway?) In my experience with children they tend to start lying when they are exposed to people who are excessively disciplinarian, people who are ready to punish for every little thing. So it may not be just the stress at home but also her teachers manner and severity which is causing her untruths. This teacher perhaps is causing the behaviour which she then wants to punish. Also if a behaviour is serious enough to involve an interrogation to try ‘crack’ a child, how is it serious enough not to warrant a parent’s involvement? Personally I cannot see any valid behavior problems here that deserve such punishment and I think schools LIKE ANY OTHER institution should be open to questioning, especially by the parents when they feel their children have been unfairly treated.
    But I am a big advocate of affording children the same respect that I try extend to everyone. A respect, guest, that keeps me well within the boundaries of our (current) laws, regardless of my readiness to challenge laws/rules/authority when I think that they are wrong.

    Lplates I wish you and your daughter the very best in what must be a difficult time but tell you beware, you may now have a little Sophie Scholl on your hands!

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  12. LPlates

    I never said I didn’t deal with the lying. We did. As I said she didn’t get off scott-free. The lying has been an issue. But I also had a problem with them not telling me about it! To me it was a two-fold problem. Plus the Principal believed my daugher and was all prepared to apologise to her. But she didn’t do it. The Teacher did. I didn’t make up my mind about whether or not she had written the note until I saw it. It was not her writing and we do not own the pens that it was written with. But the Teacher didn’t care. She had made up her mind and wasn’t budging. And the fact that the note wasn’t mean…..well, frankly, it wasn’t worth pursuing. If it had been I would have understood. Plus other kids come into the classroom for religion etc. It could have been anybody. But because it was found on the floor in between her and the boy she became the target!!! And if she had confessed to all the other lies but didn’t on this occasion, wouldn’t that make you have doubts too!!!

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  13. wollywally

    Lu thiss goes in the file “embarassing moment”, got plenty to tell too, for another time, love ooxx =-X

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  14. Guest

    This is in response to Mabol’s comments about not agreeing with all rules in schools:

    But if your child is seeing you challenging the school rather than accepting their rules and backing them up at home, what sort of example do you think you are setting? That it’s ok to challenge rules? Such as the law? Unfortunately mummy can’t run into the police station and “challenge” the policeman over the “silly” rule her child has broken. Or negotiate with the judge over the sentence, because it wasn’t a rule she agreed with that her child broke.

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  15. Guest

    I don’t think it was the kid being late that made the teacher label him a failure, it’s his inability to deal with consequences – throwing a tantrum over a detention and texting mummy before the class had even finished to whinge about it, which was exacerbated and encourage by mummy raring into the school immediately to take it up with the teacher.

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  16. Guest

    I am sorry, but I feel terribly sorry for your daughter’s teacher.

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  17. cleo

    What about a trailgator? Might make it more enjoyable for you too?

    http://www.trail-gator.com/

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  18. Kris2040

    There is always a chance that stuff will go wrong – That’s life! And that is what makes stuff like rope swings over dams so fun – the risk! But god, everything is a risk when you first do it. Then you do it again and again and learn the best way to do whatever it is. Kids fall over, fall off their bikes, break bones, knock teeth out. It is what happens to everyone!

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  19. Kris2040

    Ah no, I haven’t moved on. She still knows she’s lying though right? I don’t know where the bullying and thief thing comes into it though… Sorry to hear about your separation, its still naughty behaviour though. Even if she didn’t do what she got the detention for, she HAD been caught out lying. I know its an emotional time for you guys, but I found when my Mum and Dad split up, school was what kept me sane! Its good she’s seeing a counsellor. Are you too?

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  20. Mizanthrop

    Brilliant topic idea Guest!

    My other half is a doctor and I think his perspective has been coloured by too many years in the emergency room. When our neighbours make a rope swing over their dam all my husband sees is a potential head injury and drowning. When my daughter wants to learn to jump her horse he starts about the 14 year old who severed her spinal cord and will never walk again…

    I understand why he’s anxious, and I acknowledge that there is risk in many of the activities he’s so keen to veto, but I also worry that my kids will end up a) neurotic, and b) that they will ultimately rebel but have no experience judging risk for themselves.

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  21. Anonymous

    This is such an emotive topic – I got all knotted up inside just reading all of the comments.

    I am the mother of a 2 year old and his father is quite ait older than me and a first time dad. I love my husband dearly but he is definately over the top when it comes to being protective of our child.

    We have been together for over 11 years and we have never argued as much as we have since our son was born. Needless to say we have very different parenting styles.

    I would like to think that I am more relaxed (although I must admit I do see myself in some of the helicopter parent posts – but I wonder if that is a reaction to my husband’s anxieties) and hubby is a total helicopter parent. I can even see it in my son’s behaviour already – if he bumps himself when it’s just the two of us and it’s really no big deal then he just shrugs it off, but if hubby’s around then he’ll cry.

    I worry that we’re going to screw him up by being too over the top – it’s certainally not how I had invisaged parenting but I find myself going along with my husband’s style because it’s easier than arguing all the time. But I am definately the disiplinarian – I have no problem with telling my son NO where as hubby can’t do it. Also, when hubby’s not around I let him do things he’s not aloud to do other wise like go in the backyard by himself or jump on the couch – yes people, you heard correctly.

    I don’t see anything wrong with him scrapping his knee or getting a few bruises occasionally but my husband thinks that’s being a neglectful parent – esspecially if you’ve got only one. What else is there to do after all? Because we all know that the washing hangs it’s self out, the house is self cleaning and the family meals are delivered by the food fairy.

    Okay, that was probably unnessecary sarcasam but it felt funny when I was writing it. Perhapse I have segwayed into another topic altogether – what do you do when your parenting styles are very different?

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  22. Mizanthrop

    It sounds like your daughter isn’t the only one doing it rough right now, hope life gets less stressful for you soon LPlates. *Hugs*

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  23. Lu

    And some kids are just a pain in the arse and run away. if you want to get from a to b or do your shopping quickly for some people strapping their kids into a pram is the only way they can do it.

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  24. Anonymous

    I have 3 girls and if my husband is on his own with them he tries to find a disabled or parents toilet so you can ensure no-one else in in there.

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  25. Lu

    I was sitting in a cafe with my kids the other day when Miss 11 said loudly ‘mummy you’re right people who go out without shoes on do look like hobos, look at that man’…who was standing at the counter right behind us.

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  26. Lu

    I’m sure most other 17yo boys are out later than this and not complaining about being too tired one bit – for other reasons!

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  27. clarinette

    that’s just plain silly, no paedophile is going to try a move in the presence of the parents….but i wouldn’t let a grown man become “friends ” with my kid.That said, i had a bunch of grown up males befriend me as a kid. Some of them were probably paedophiles, but they were no rapists. i remember one of them asking me when “oh when” i would eventually turn 18, i just replied that he still had 6 years to wait, and that even when i DID turn 18 i probably wouldn’t be interrested in him lol…i was used to it and not really phased by it. sorry for the TMI but i think my mum trusted my instincts on this…can be a good thing.

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  28. karma

    My 6 year old recently had a friend over for a sleepover. Her mother arrived with dinner ready made in case she didn’t like what I cooked; mineral water in case we only had tapwater to drink (she doesn’t like tapwater); and a pull-up nappy because she may not want to ask to go to the toilet in the night.
    This mother is in all other respects a perfectly sane and actually great down to earth kind of woman, we are great friends and so are our kids. But in the case of her only child, she is in her own words “a helicopter parent”. My experience with this little girl is that she has enormous confidence in her ability to manipulate and make people do her bidding, but finds it very hard to do things by herself and will actually go to pieces when asked to cope on her own (she went home at 10pm as she missed her mother).
    To some extent the problem of being too protective of your kids is ameliorated by having more of them – I simply have less time and attention to bestow on each of my children now that there are 3 of them. But it’s also a matter of remembering that while they are children, they are also people who need to live their lives and learn for themselves. Tough line to walk, and the line’s drawn in a different place for every parent I guess!

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  29. gigdiary

    Bernard Tomic, a tennis player, at the peak of his youth, with an entry into the bigtime is complaining about the conditions? The conditions that all other seasoned players deal with? Yes, Lu, bubblewrapped and spoilt. It’s a classic case of working the child hard at their particular talent while pampering them in every other way. Sad, I suppose. Is this the way to produce champions in sport?

    Tomic blamed the time of the match for his loss, as, at his age, his eyesight isn’t good after 1am. I’d say most teenagers’ eyesight isn’t that good after 1am, although probably for different reasons. Does he think his eyesight will improve with age?

    It’s worrying that at at this level of training and achievement, an excuse laden mentality is influencing a young person’s career. What hope can less achieving kids have, if they are saddled with this type of parenting?

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  30. LPlates

    I’m no doubt writing this to no-one as everyone has moved on…..I’ll use it as my therapy to get it out anyway……My issue with the school wasn’t the WHY it was the HOW. And when I passed on my grievance about their decision to not inform me they became defensive and unapologetic, which goes back to my point about being able to question the school!! The Principal tells me I shouldn’t worry so much about my child. What she doesn’t know is the extent of my daughters issues. My daughter talks about killing herself. I realise it is an attention-seeking ploy. Nonetheless…….it shouldn’t be coming out of the mouth of an 8 yo!! The only positive thing to come from it is that I stopped wondering if she should have counselling and I took her to see a Counsellor. Turns out though it’s ME I’m the problem. It’s my parenting…..I agree to a point. She probably lies because I am ALWAYS rousing on her! I’m sure she’s fed up with getting into trouble ALL of the time. So please don’t judge my daughter too harshly and say she deserved her comeuppance……need to have a good cry now…….

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  31. Frankie

    Probably too late to answer you guest, but if I don’t know the parents, never (my oldest is 8, not sure if this will change?). Otherwise, my 8 year old & 6 year old have had one each, with very good friends of mine (their kids are friends with mine). I’ve probably on the cautious side of this though. Lax with lots of things, not this.

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  32. guest

    I was an only child with a trampoline in the 70′s and can remember some serious scares. Nevertheless 7 years ago when I wanted a trampoline for my boys – I rang up to order one and the salesman warned I should only let one boy on the trampoline at a time otherwise it’s very dangerous – the lightest child is particularly vulnerable.

    Are you kidding – I wouldn’t be able to police something like that – I told him. And his answer to me was that given the circumstances, and the daredevil nature of my kids he strongly recommended I not purchase a trampoline (this was obviously before nets were commonplace). One honest salesman who robbed himself of a sale!

    My little nephew fell off a regular trampoline – he’s OK – but it required an emergency visit to the hospital and he had some staples in his head.

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  33. guest

    I used a double stroller for years and if I swear if I heard one more comment out loud from strangers that my kids should be walking – I felt like I’d go out of my mind. Please don’t judge.

    The number one reason my kids were in a stroller is because we had no car. We went from one end of Sydney to the other, often out for hours at a time. My pram became a kind of home away from home – my boys snacked and slept in that pram. I carried groceries and god knows what else on the back of that pram – it was really useful. At one point we were renovating our small apartment so we were out of the house all day long. That pram became my lifesaver.

    Another thing is that yes often my kids were lazy and didn’t want to walk – I was the exact same way as a kid. But kids grow up – my family is one of the fittest most energetic families I know – and no my kids are not spoilt. Whatever makes a mum’s life easier I say.

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  34. LPlates

    Sorry if that sounded harsh. Things aren’t always black and white!

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  35. LPlates

    Ok well good luck to you when your child does something at school and they brand your child a bully or a thief or a liar and they don’t come to you and tell you there is a problem. Let’s see how you feel about it then. Oh by the way before you judge her so harshly, my daughter has been going through a tough time with her parents separting etc and as she is a sensitive child she has found it pretty tough going and has been acting out! The school is aware of the situation and whilst I don’t want her to “get away” with things I do think they could/should have handled it better!! She isn’t bullying anyone. She was just denying that she had done something eg. taken someone’s pencil even though she had and then she would return it and as I said the note was about nothing. So what was the point!!

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  36. LPlates

    Wow that’s just what I said to my little one as we left the beach yesterday!!

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  37. Kris2040

    That is a bit crap, LPlater, but hey, she WAS lying, right? So she got her comeuppance. Whether the teachers told you or not, right?
    Yes, Mabol, I agree that rules should be challenged and able to be challenged, I am a shocker for standing up to authority and saying “Hey, hang on, explain this please…” And am always the first to join a union and be a union rep in order to stand up and say “Oi, hang on”. BUT. I think my point still stands. Christ, at my school, if we had hovermummies and text, what a nightmare! But you know, if we screwed up and got detention or something, we just sucked it up and did it. Mostly cause we DIDN”T want a note going home to Mum and/or Dad saying what we had got in trouble for!

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  38. girly

    OK, taking in all your opinions, here is mine! :-D I agree that labelling this kid a ‘failure’ is very harsh and over what? Being late over mufti day. I couldn’t begin to tell you the amount of times I have been late to school, and I like to think I am a success. My brothers had an APPALLING track record at school, whether late or in studies, and they are very successful. If I were the teacher, I would have warned him after hearing his excuse, not handing down a detention for a first offence. As for the mother, I think she just overreacted as she knew why he was late, and it was a simple misunderstanding. (No offence to the teacher concerned, but I imagine you as one of those really matronly, strict teachers I had at school that enforced every rule right down to the T, as opposed to the cool teachers who were like “OK, just don’t do it again!”)

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  39. girly

    I had a trampoline when little and never hurt myself on it. My brothers and I would have hours of fun on it and not a scratch. (Then again, my ex got jumped off when he was about 5 by his sister and broke his arm.)

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  40. Anonymous

    Chicken Pox is good for a childs immunity

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  41. girly

    Guest, stop justifying yourself! Do whatever the hell you want. There is no right/wrong way to do something, and if pushing your child in a pram suits him after a full day at school, so be it! ;)

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  42. sparkle

    I agree! I never went without shoes when little and I won’t go out now without them for fear of stepping on something. I hate seeing little ones barefoot when out and about, it is just not safe. There could be glass or needles or anything! That isn’t bubblewrap, that is common health and safety.

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  43. sparkle

    I find it sad to hear my Mum tell me when my grandfather smiles at little kids at the shops, and the mother gets all scared and grabs them. (He is the most gentle man ever, and people are drawn to his kindness.) Don’t assume all men are paedophiles – some men generally adore kids. :-D

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  44. girly

    I would never leave an animal alone in my car – let alone a toddler.

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  45. girly

    I take my hat off to you, frockup. Well said. If it saves a life or stops something horrible happening, then it its fine by me.

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  46. girly

    hear hear! My mum and her brothers used to run amok when they were kids, and mum told me a story about he kids next door. they were made to sit on a blanket their mum laid out for them, not allowed to get dirty at all, and they were always sick! mum hardly got sick at all

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  47. Anonymous

    Good point! =-X love ooxx

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  48. AmandaRose

    Its not the finding kids with diffuculties and helping them that I think is a problem- it’s just the label- words like disorder, chemical in the brain. etc. How would you feel if someone told you your different because you have a disorder. wouldn’t be better to embrace there good point, adapt to ways they need to be taught and disaplined without making them feel like genetic crap.

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  49. Guest (with stroller)

    This is much more fun than any dinner party I’ve ever been to. You can say what you really think! ;)

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  50. Anonymous

    It takes me, an adult, 35 minutes and I walk fast. For him to walk the same distance would take much longer. Also, I live in Brisbane, it’s hilly and it’s hot. To school and back again for him would be close to 2 hours of walking, 5 days a week. And then there’s after school swimming lessons (near home) a couple of days a week. And I resent the implication that I was making parents whose children walk to school feel guilty.

    (When I said he was crying half way home that was on the days when he had walked to school in the morning -without any problems -and was coming home again in the afternoon after a full day at school)

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