by MEGAN CLEMENT
“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”
Franklin Roosevelt could say that because Franklin Roosevelt was a man.
Women know better. Women know – because we learn very quickly – exactly what we have to fear.
We fear sexual assault. We fear domestic violence. We fear abduction. If we are poor, we fear being trafficked. If we are rich, we fear what researchers say all women fear the most – we fear rape.
But it does not stop there. If we are unlucky enough to experience any of this, and most of us are, we fear disclosure. Every report that deals with violence against women will tell you one thing: it is woefully under-reported. Only 14-16% of cases in Australia are reported to the police.
It’s worse if you’re young. What’s the most likely cause of death, disability or illness if you’re female, aged 15-44 and living in Victoria? Intimate partner violence.
In short, we have a lot more to fear than fear itself. When 70% of the world’s women have experienced sexual or physical violence, most of us have a lot more to worry about than anything so abstract. Again, the younger we are, the more vulnerable we are.
Half of the world’s sexual assaults on women are committed against girls younger than 16. In Australia, if we are younger than 24, we are almost twice as likely to experience violence than if we are older than 35.
And fear itself is powerful. That is why violence against women works so well. Because often it is our fear of what could happen that constrains us. The UN describes gender-based violence as a ”social mechanism by which women are forced into a subordinate position compared with men”. We are subordinated because we have experienced violence; even if we haven’t, we are subordinated because we know that we might.
All this fear isn’t good for us. A report from the Australian Institute of Criminology states that for women, fear of crime is almost as serious as crime itself. The ABS tells us fear of crime is bad for the health and wellbeing of communities. The good statisticians then inform us that
The disproportionate number of women who felt unsafe alone compared with men may be attributed to women’s greater sense of personal vulnerability.
I wonder where on earth we get that idea.
In the early hours of Saturday morning, a woman went missing from my neighbourhood. She was last seen on the path I take home each Thursday evening after seeing my friend at the pub.
This is the same area in which a woman had her throat slashed last year. I have taken to avoiding the path on the other side of my neighbourhood. There have been a number of sex attacks there. I have a bike, but I wonder if I’m fast enough.
I am wealthy, I am white, I am young, I am educated. I live in the inner suburbs of the world’s most liveable city. The lottery of my birth tells me I should be OK. Like so many women, in so many neighbourhoods of so many cities in the world, I should have it so good. But still I am afraid; and no one has given me any reason not to be.
Because, unfortunately, there is still no safe haven from being a woman.
This post was originally published here and has been republished with full permission.
Megan is the Deputy Section Editor (Politics and Society) at The Conversation. You can find her on Twitter here.








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Any article that keeps women aware of there safety can only be a good thing. And I say this as businesswoman that was attacked robbed and brutally beaten up by a gang of thugs who saw me as an easy target as I walked to my car at night
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“A single male is the most common victim of being assaulted walking home alone.”
Your final sentence should read “there is still no safe haven from being a human being”, because we are all vulnerable. And narrowing your text to women only serves to put your brothers – males in general – in a bad light.
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It is beyond me why there are men who deny the reality of gender-based violence. It is YOU who is doing the disservice.
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Are you serious, Anon?
How is his comment denying “gender-based violence”?
Take any statistic for violence against women (with the exception of sexual based violence) and it is more for men.
What we have missed in this awful tragedy is an opportunity to discuss and examine our propensity for violence in general. By focussing solely on violence against women, you, the author of this piece, and many, many others are indirectly claiming that violence against men is acceptable.
Why? Because we are men? Because we are “stronger”?
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For the people below who say they don’t experience fear when they’re out etc, I think that what this article is articulating is the constant feeling of needing to be vigilant about, or as Kris2040 put it being aware of, our surroundings all the time. I would hazard a guess that most women when walking to their car at night after work will have keys in one hand, phone in the other. It’s a safety precaution. We might also walk a longer route somewhere because it’s better lit. Safety precaution. Perhaps at the end of a night when a group of girls go their separate ways in taxis, we say ‘text me when you get home safe’. Another safety precaution. Crossing the street to walk on the opposite side to a group of tipsy men. Safety precaution. As a counter to various media commentary that girls are putting themselves in ‘unsafe’ situations, Clementine Ford asked people to tweet in about what they do to keep themselves safe. And, sadly, so many of the strategies sound familiar to me. Because my friends and I are doing them all the time.
I’d hazard a further guess that the majority of males don’t do this. It is ingrained within being female that we need to be (almost) hyper-vigilant about our safety. A group of friends (male and female) and I were talking about Jill’s story last night and the guys were amazed at the women’s stories of how we are constantly “looking over their shoulder” so to speak, and constantly taking steps to make ourselves safer. The guys said they wouldn’t think twice about walking down a deserted road at 2:30 am alone. Obviously this is a small and skewed sample, but still.
I think this is the crux of the issue. We may not constantly operate in fear, but we constantly operate with super-awareness of our surroundings. We need to, and are expected to, for our own safety. It doesn’t seem (to me) that men need to do the same. The fact that we need to do this says to me that society puts the onus on the victim. We’re not saying to the population “don’t rape/assault/abduct”, we’re saying “don’t get raped/assaulted/abducted”.
Gah, sorry for the long post, it’s just something I’ve been thinking about.
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articles like this only work to instill more fear.
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I think most women and some men could give you examples of lucky escapes they have had in their lives.. and also of not escaping… and I am thinking alot more than one or two incidents… I am an advocate for compulsory self defence classes in schools for this reason. And edcuation of younger children on speaking up if they feel scared or threatened.
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I am a guy, but I am 5’6″ tall, slim and an easy target. I have been targeted before, and every time I pass a group of guys I don’t know I get extremely anxious.
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I was thinking that it is not necessarily different for guys Matt. Be small or large, sometimes, if someone is waiting to do something, be it the senseless attack on the young man in Kings Cross a few months ago, or this incident, I don’t think the gender matters.
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after reading all the comments men and women must always be aware that there are lots of mentally sick people living amoungst us. In the past these woulld have been locked up but today they are living beside us. No one should take risks whether out alone or at home. It is not just young women that are attacked . There is an increase in attacks on senior folk in their homes. These are very vunerable to home invasion. However we cannot live our lives in fear. We must be vigilant at all times.
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Unfortunately in society there is an element of evil. Predators that prey on situations.
Daniel Morcombe should have been safe, Anita Cobby should have been safe. Jill Meagher should have been safe. Unfortunately they, and many others, encountered society`s dregs. It isn`t a matter of just women should be safe, all of society should be safe from these predators.
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You would think so wouldn’t you? But keeping an accurate record of all the incidents of sexual violence that occurs in an area would make the crime statistics look very, very bad. Then it becomes a political issue and once politicians and beurocrats become involved, our reports start to ‘go missing.’
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I don’t think most women “fear being female” at all, we are just aware of the reality that physically we would struggle to overpower an attacker and as such as have to be more vigilant about taking safety precautions like not walking at night alone. This is not going to change – it is not because the world is sexist and unjust. It is because women biologically are generally smaller and less strong than a lot of men. As someone who is 5 “1 and size 6, I sometimes feel irrationally intimidated or threatened by much bigger women, not just men. I am aware that my size means that if someone, anyone at all, wanted to choose me as their next victim, that I’d have little hope of defending myself unless there was a cricket bat lying nearby. But I wonder if men of smaller stature sometimes feel the same kind of threat or intimidation when confronted with physically much bigger men? I know it sounds really superficial but I just wonder how many of these awful incidents happen to women who are bigger and taller. I might attract criticism for suggesting it – but I just wonder how much of this power play comes down to the victim being much smaller physically weaker and hence more vulnerable, than the predator.
I think everyone, both men and women, should be aware of their own personal safety – no-one is invincible.
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It’s not true that the leading cause of death for young women is intimate partner violence. That has been investigated and found to be a rogue statistic. Young women are far more likely to die from other causes such as cancer and car accidents. It’s not fair to the average man to pin such crimes on men as a class. Men as a class are generally protective toward women and don’t deserve to be maligned in this way.
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I actually made a post about his past late last night when the news first broke about her being found but asked the Mods to delete it for fear of somehow adding even the teeniest bit to him being able to get a mistrial due to Sub Judice.
Now that you’ve mentioned it though I’ll simply say this was someone who should NOT have been free in public at all. The system somehow let Jill, her family and anyone else he may have come into contact with in a negative way, down. He is most definitely not what any of us would consider the typical male – even the ones who get drunk on the weekends and act like d#$kheads to women when out with friends are light years ahead of this guy. This person fits in a segment of society that thankfully very few other men or women do.
I was out door-knocking on Wednesday in Brunswick with neighbours with the slim hope – even though we feared even then that our efforts might be in vain – that we’d spark someone to remember something. Several men who happened to be home during the day for whatever reason – a couple of them caring for their young children – asked us to wait for a minute so they could throw on some warmer clothes for themselves and/or their kids so they could join us to go hit up every house and shop we could. These guys are the average Australian male. Not this person who has been arrested.
I will forever treasure my friends – male and female – who have each other’s back and wouldn’t think twice about ensuring I’m ok, regardless of the situation. Even the random strangers who have done the same for me since I’ve moved to Australia. 99.9% of men do not deserve to even be mentioned in the same sentence as this person. This is a sign of a broken system… not of a broken gender by any means.
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Hi Mark,
If that stat is not correct I do apologise. Could you point me to somewhere where it’s debunked?
I certainly wasn’t intending to pin this on men as a class. What I was doing, and what seems to be hard for some readers to understand, is pointing to a specific set of circumstances that affect women.
I’d also be careful about commenting on the arrested man’s past. This case is sub judice and publishing that kind of thing could prejudice the trial.
Cheers,
Megan
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for me that fear has always been there.
for a start, i am paranoid and a massive worrier. secondly, i watch too many true crime shows and am so aware that regardless of where u live, all it can take is one bad person and a couple of seconds in which they find an opportunity.
of course i know that more often than not you could walk home alone at 2am and be perfectly ok, but its that chance that it COULD happen, no matter who- or where- you are, and some factors – i.e. night time, being alone – increase that risk.
as a broke uni student in my late teens/early 20s i used to work very early morning shifts at my job,starting at 4am. i didnt have my licence or car,neither did my flatmate, and quite often i was just too broke for a taxi there..so walking was the only option. it was about a 20min walk (although i swear at that time of morning i did it in 10), but it was always so terrifying, feeling so vulnerable and scared in the dark. i truely dont think i could do that at all today though, older, wiser and even more jaded.
one night when we were only just 18 we were away for schoolies, we had all had a few drinks, and a friend decided to go home with a random guy – who lived on the other side of the town. we lost her in the club for a little bit and then after frantic calls from us she msged me that she was already out the door with him walking to his holiday house… we begged her not to but we couldnt stop her, so despite her protests – she was pissed off with us, but me and two friends decided we were going too so we chased them down …we didnt know the area very well, we didnt know him and imagine if we had let her go off with him – and never seen her again??
We sat outside his house in his bbq area like crazies with 000 already in all of our phs till they were done, his friends all returned from wherever they had been and we felt vulnerable. turns out they were just schoolies like us and ok. but thankgod we went with her …. the walk back to where we were staying was over an hour long and she would of had to do it alone after the taxi he called for us never showed.
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Like the majority of posters I’ve had my fair share of incidents where I’ve felt at best uncomfortable and at worst scared. In my 20′s I thought nothing of walking home by myself from our local pub, or from one nightclub to another. It’s only in hindsight that I think how lucky I was not to have found myself in a bad situation.
In my mid 30′s I was living alone and had been to a friends birthday celebration at a local pub. At closing time a group of us (about 8 people in total) decided we weren’t ready for the night to end, so everyone headed to my place. It was a good night, nothing overly exciting, we just played a bit of music and all sat around chatting. People started leaving one by one, and eventually I was left alone with a guy I had known since I was a teenager. I didn’t think twice about it, until I told him I was tired and it was time for him to head home. He refused to leave. At first I kind of laughed it off, but I was very aware of the fact that I was very vunerable.
He proceeded to tell me that he had always liked me and tonight was the night for something to happen. He was not joking, I will never forget the look in his eyes, and I was genuinely terrified. I tried to reason with him, I even tried to trick him into going outside so I could lock him out, but he just became more and more angry and aggresive. Just as he grabbed me I heard a knock at the door and I called out. Through some stroke of luck a good friend had just finished his shift at a restaurant around the corner, saw my light in and decided to stop in. This was enough to distract my unwanted visitor for long enough for me to open the door and let my friend in. He quickly sensed something was wrong, came inside and asked if I wanted this man to leave. When confronted he quickly left. As soon as he was out of the house I burst into tears.
I don’t know what would have happened if my friend hadn’t turned up, thankfully over the proceeding summer months he had made a bit of a habit of dropping in on his way home if he saw I was still up. He stayed in my spare room that night and a number of nights afterwards until I started to feel safe again. The following morning I went to see a good friend who is a police officer and told him what had happened, I knew that techinically he hadn’t done anything illegal, but I wanted some sort of unoffical record of what had happened.
I don’t like to think about what could have happened that night. I hate that one night could make me fearful of living alone after living by myself for most of my adult life. I was bought up to be a strong, independent woman, I travelled overseas by myself and bought a house by myself, but in my most vunerable moment I had to rely on a male friend to ‘rescue’ me.
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Thank you for sharing your story Kaz. It is always hard being reminded of your vulnerability, no matter who you are, or what gender. Sometimes “lucky escapes”, as experiences such as yours are often called, can haunt us not because of what happened but because of what could’ve.
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I’m one of those who asks if people are ok
To me I can’t just walk and not make sure
I don’t are if people think I’m weak not cool nosey etc
I walked out of panthers cluband seen two boys looking a bit nervous I asked if they were ok and if mum was inside and they said yes.my friend had just walked past them
I dint mind If strangers ask my kids if they’re ok I feel a lot better abiut the world when strangers aren’t scared about talking to kids without their parents there *just to see if they’re ok etc*
But the thing I’m most proud of is I was visiting my hubby while he was at kapooka in Wagga and my cousin and I were driving around late that night and in a dead street no cars etc *except ours we got lost lol*
There was a girl in the gutter passed out..we pulled over and I checked her out she looked relatively fine just drunk as I got her awake she said a cab was on its way so I kept my distance bit we waited till the cab was there..I couldn’t have just leftover there…even though it was a dwad street *there were houses but she wouldn’t have been able to flag down a car in an emergency…*
Anything could happen
Also I’ve never passed out drunk or got to the point where I can’t control my self of something were to happen..my friends woukdnt get blind but I kept relatively sober so o could think straight just in case
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I’m 20 years old and work in a pub, so verbal sexual harassment from men over the bar is nothing new.
Although one night, a particular guy (only a few years my senior) was refusing to pay for his drinks, until I gave him my name so he could ‘look me up on facebook’. Obviously I wouldn’t tell him, and took his drinks away until he paid and thought nothing else of it.
But leaving work that night, on the twenty or so metre walk up the street to my car, he suddenly appeared from behind a tree and grabbed my arm, demanding I tell him my name. You think that if you experienced this situation you’d fight or try to get away – but I just stood frozen, mouth agape, unable to register the situation.
Thankfully something kicked in after a second and I managed to release myself from his grip and run to my car, in tears. I thought of ignoring it – but decided that this man needed to know that kind of thing was unnacceptable.
So, I tracked him down online (thanks to a very discernible tattoo), called the police, and had him banned from the pub for 6 months. Although, when the female police officer came over, she continuously asked “did you do anything to make him want to grab you?”, “did you say anything to him that night?” in a way that insinuated that I had enticed him, or flirted with him – or given him some reason to think it was ok.
I was like, hello? What happened to sisters sticking together and all that stuff? He was just a cocky patron who I’d blown off, and he wasn’t happy about it.
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Hi D,
That’s a horrible thing to have happen but you did absolutely the right thing and I admire your principles and bravery. Thank you for sharing your story.
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I was 18 years old, walking home from the gym. I was wearing shorts and a singlet. I felt a man on the other side of the street walking alongside me. I was a bit panicky but kept walking. The last thing I remember was he grabbing me from behind. I looked up and said Oh My God. I elbowed him, he punched me and I kicked him and he ran. I started screaming at him and then noticed a man with a dog who saw everything. He walked me home and as soon as my mum opened the door I burst into tears. It was the worse night of my life. What made it worse were the police blaming me for what I was wearing. I now cant walk in the dark whereas before I never would have thought such things could happen. So be careful as it could happen to anyone and keep your wits about you and never give up the fight. My heart goes out to Jills family
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I am so sorry that happened to you and that cop treated you that way. The universe was looking out for you that day.. Stay safe x
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I’m sorry for this awful experience too.
I have always said that there are psychopaths in the world, and there’s nothing we can do about it. What matters is how people and institutions charged with protecting us deal with things when they strike.
In this situation, it seems the police failed you, which I imagine has made the trauma so much worse. I hope things are getting better for you.
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Ahh ! Great great post. I was just telling my 59 year old naive mother to be extremely careful in our area and where she goes to school. She doesn’t understand the crime that’s been occurring and I continuously like to remind her to be careful at the bus stop, on the bus, while walking to class, while walking to the shops…..
I fear for my mothers safety because she doesn’t understand and believes she invincible or something.
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My mum is the opposite! She always carries a can of deodorant or mini hairspray with her when she’s out by herself and I’m never sure if she’s accidentally gonna spray an innocent person lol!
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41-year-old Coburg man has been arrested. Not many more details at this point.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/one-of-six-people-seen-on-crucial-cctv-comes-forward-as-police-probe-abduction-theory-on-missing-jill-meagher-and-plea-for-witnesses/story-e6frf7jo-1226482868669
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Lots of food for thought.
To me this type of fear is a subliminal thing. A constant undercurrant tweaking my instincts to ensure I’m staying safe. If I’m walking down a street alone at night, my instincts are on super high alert, to a Jason Bourne level, drunk or not. If I’m at a party/bbq with friends I don’t know too well, I’m on alert and wary. It’s not usually a concsious act, it’s more subconscious. I’m like a zebra casually eating my grass but my muscles are ready to spring into action at any moment and one eye is constantly on the pride of lions in the distance.
It doesnt cripple my life.
It’s intertwined with common sense.
But it is definitely a learned behaviour.
I find it interesting that some women do not feel this.
But perhaps it is all about experiences.
I’ve had plenty of examples in my life to show me that men are a threat, from those I know andthose I don”t. For example:
Molested as a child, at 14 accosted in a park while I was studying by a man who was not physcial but disgustingly verbose and threatening, as a young health professional i was felt up, threatened, degraded, harrassed because I was young and pretty. Date raped and then blamed for it by friend. Flatmates and I were stalked. I always preferred gay night clubs as my ass and breasts weren’t pinched every 10 minutes (that really shits me…it hurts!). Male friends of family and of husband are quite comfortable dissing women, disrespecting them and I can count on one hand how many times men around me have pulled up their mate for misogynistic behaviour.
I’m not naive, overly sensitive or weak. I often have stood up to these people.
Often the only one who would. I don’t hate men. I know that the vast majority are decent, despite my experience. But it takes a lot for me to trust one.
My experiences sound like a lot, even though I’ve only mentioned some of them. But most women I known through out my life, where we would talk about such things, have had similar experiences. Some worse, some not so many…but only few would deny having some experience where they felt threatened.
Well publicised incidences of a missing women tends to feed that underlying controlled fear that is always running somewhere under our skin, placed there often by our experiences. That underlying fear is not often allowed to rest. How can it, when so many men (and women) around us trivialise sexist remarks and label us as overly emotional when we become upset or intolerent of these behaviours?
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Well said. I am surprised too by the commenters who say they don’t feel any fear. I wonder why.
Have they never felt out of their comfort zone even momentarily walking past a group of young, gobby men at night, for example? Or being alone on a train platform at a non-busy station with a strange man leering from the bench? Even subconsciously, as you said?
I do not mean to dismiss the claim, I just genuinely cannot relate.
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I’m definitely aware if someone is leering at me or if I walk past a group of drunken idiots. It makes me uncomfortable, sure, and I’d prefer that they didn’t do it, but I don’t feel actual, genuine fear that they’re going to do something to me. When this happens I suppose I feel a heightened sense of awareness and I might take a look around me for an escape route should I need one, I’ll probably even turn down my iPod so that I can hear better, but that’s really it.
When I am out and about I’m very aware of my surroundings, but I’m not afraid of the people that inhabit them.
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You’ve said what I wanted to in response to this.
There’s a difference between being aware (and wary of) your surroundings and living in fear. I do the former. And people pick up on it. If there’s one woman walking along knowing it’s her right to and one skittering along obviously jumpy, who is going to get picked on?
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Hi Kris, and Zepgirl, thank you – just what I hoped to hear.
Kris – It’s nothing to do with skittering along nervously or looking confident, speaking from experience – a circumstance can change that in an instant anyway. It’s sheer luck or bad luck, really.
But I’m pleased to hear of your awareness. Keep it up. Be careful.
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You’re right – it is luck, but I do definitely think that it’s how you respond to changes in circumstances and how you think through the changes and your reaction which will affect the outcome. So if you’re skittering along scared out of your wits already, you’re probably not going to think too clearly about how to deal if something changes or something dodgy happens. People do pick up on your confidence in a situation, and will manipulate and exploit it. My point was that one is going to be far easier to do that with than the other, if that’s what you’re out to do.
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Perfect comment. That is exactly how I feel too. I have had different experiences to you, but enough to know first hand fear that comes from physical & sexual violence.
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Anon 42Day Your comment resonated for me. Ive been reluctant to comment in reply to the “I have no fear” statements here because it felt so futile. But your words have inspired me to share my own story.
At age 10 I had my first taste of female vulnerability via a man who ran a horse riding school. He ‘dry rooted’ me in the horse feed room, and until this day I have never told a soul. A year later while riding my bike around the neighbourhood, which we did in the carefree 70′s, a young man followed and tried to grab me, I accelerated and looked behind me just in time to see his penis being pulled from his pants. A year later, at age 12, friends and I attend a mans home under the offer of payment to walk his dogs. I wont go into details of the exposure we got at his home of both his genitalia and pornos. A year after that, at a birthday party, my friends mum’s boyfriend tries to drag me into a bedroom while I cling to the side of a doorway begging him to stop. Finally the mum appears and coaxes him gently to let me go. I don’t sleep that night.
So there you have it. A typical girl, in a typical neighbourhood who in the space of a few years is exposed to several forms of sexually predatorial behaviour. If you don’t feel some level of security awareness, whether conscious of otherwise, then from my perspective you are living in a fools paradise. Good luck with that.
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Just because some of us have never experience so many things year after year doesn’t mean we’re living in a fools paradise. It means that we haven’t experienced that stuff in the way you have. And similarly, just because you experienced all this stuff doesn’t mean that everyone will. It just means that unfortunately you did.
As has been explained not feeling scared is quite different to not having a sense of security and awareness. Some of us are more confident about handling ourselves and rather than walk around scared we walk around aware. That’s not foolish, it’s sensible.
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All women’s experiences are different.
We are not foolish if we do not fear.
We are not weak if we do.
The simple fact is that we face specific dangers, and there is evidence to support this. What we do with this information is up to us.
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I couldn’t agree more that our experiences shape how safe or otherwise we feel.
As I’ve got older, the more I experience harassment or violence, the more wary I have become in situations where I might be at risk. This does not make us weak.
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About 20 years ago, when I was at Uni I was working as a waitress at nights. I often didnt finish work, especically after weddings until very late. This one particular night I got back home around 1am. I parked across the road from my unit block. As my flatmate was away I was a bit worried about going in alone in the dark so I sat in my car, got my keys and torch out and psyched myself up for the run inside. Thats when I noticed the ute parked right in front of my unit block. And I also noticed that there were 2 men sitting inside it. And they were looking at me. I knew that I had never seen that ute before so it unlikely a resident and I started to get scared. This was also in the days before mobile phones being common place so my options were limited. I sat there with my heart racing going through my options. Do I make a run for it? Do I drive around the block and hope they’ve gone by the time I get back? Or do I drive to my parents house and stay there for the night? I drove the 20 minute drive to my parents house. They werent happy about being woken up in the middle of the night by their doorbell but once they heard my story they were relieved and told me I did the right thing. The only thing I did wrong that night was that I didnt get their details and report them to the police. Chances are they were harmless, however that was a chance I wasnt prepared to take.
We need to keep our wits about us when we’re out alone, especially at night.
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Years ago, Mr By was on a train where a bunch of guys were whispering about a girl on the train, they had a few more stops to go. She got off, they got off and so did he.
It was several stops before his and the last train for the night, but this is just what you do. The guys melted into the night, Mr By walked with the girl a little ways and turned off after the gang did and began his long walk home.
Most people just won’t put themselves out. It makes me wonder if a quick “you ok?” from a passerby could have averted this whole thing.
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He’s a top guy.
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Another commenter wrote about the book The Gift of Fear – I’m pretty sure the author was the guy I saw on Oprah about 10 years ago. His comments stuck with me because they’re so spot on – he said something along the lines of:
“Women don’t trust their instincts enough. They’re too polite. They might have a man following them as they walk along a pathway and they get that gut feeling that something isn’t right, but they talk themselves out of the fear as they don’t want to offend the guy. Their fear of coming across rude trumps, and they don’t do anything.”
The BEST thing you can ever do if you’re ever in doubt is to act – Run, Scream, Shout, Knock on doors or windows, make noise. If your gut instinct is telling you something is wrong, it’s better to be embarrassed for a false alarm than the alternative.
I’m refreshing my news feed every 15 minutes for news on poor Jill. Thoughts are with her family at this horrible time xx
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I’d just ordered this book recently due to several enthusiastic recommendations on a blog I really respect, and due to my friend suffering sexual harrassment.
It felt pretty pertinent that it arrived today, the day Jill Meagher’s body was found.
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Thank you Megan, a great article. I have to say this is the reason that I don’t understand people who claim to not be ‘feminists’. Even if for some reason you don’t agree with equal pay for equal work or you deny the existence of a glass ceiling. If for no other reason you stand up for women’s rights do it to change the culture that exists that put women at such a risk of violence and then subsequently blames them for not being supportive enough of the husband that beats them or for wearing provocative clothing or even for daring to be out at night.Don’t even get me started on the atrocities that face women in third world countries and how this upsets me For as important as I believe all other feminist causes are this is surely the most vital of all issues.
Now before you respond, yes I know that only a percentage of men are wife beaters or rapists and that most men are disgusted by these actions. Yet while we live in a society where even ‘decent’ men and women can wear t-shirts or post face book status making light of rape or make comments about how a woman’s outfit is asking for trouble or sweep domestic violence under the rug while singing along to a rap song glorifying rape we have a very long way to go. We need to move from a culture of ‘boys being boys’ to a culture that will not accept this kind of behaviour from anyone at anytime. I don’t pretend that this would wipe out all incidents of violence but even if it means a woman is not frightened to speak out lest she cop the blame then we have evolved as a society.
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Women make up the majority of victims in cases of violence, domestic or otherwise. An while you some commenters areabsolutely right about men being raped as well unless they come forward and report it the statistics make it a tiny part of the whole. My grandmother used to physically abused my step grandpa, however this is one of the rare cases that she was bigger than him and could gain physical advantage over him. In most cases this is not so, even a small man has mor upper body strength than the average woman. With regard to young children being abused by clergy they would definitely be living in a state of fear but it is real not anticipatory. A woman walking down the street by herself who walks past group of drunk boys will have a gut reaction of fear unfounded or not. I once actually quietly told a group of men who I think we’re just trying to be friendly that by approaching me as a group in the middle if the night they had automatically scared the stuffing out of me. They were truly surprised as they just wanted me to join them for a drink. After the encounter one of the guys came running back and said sorry for scaring me and wished me a good night
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“Women make up the majority of victims in cases of violence ,domestic or otherwise”…. How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Women are more likely to be victims of SPECIFIC types of violence such as rape and sexual assault. But if you look at violence in general men are much more likely to be victims. That fact is nigh on indisputable. War, anyone?…
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I wasn’t going to share this, however I was talking with a friend about Jill and our safety etc, and she told me that she has no fear. Not when out, not when home alone. She leaves her doors unlocked at home, because she thinks home is safe and nothing will happen there. I just want to highlight that you shouldn’t get complacent with your safety, even at home.
I was home alone on a Saturday night and I was upstairs as far away from my backyard as I could possibly be. I heard my dog going crazy, at first I thought at just a possum in the trees. Then after a while, something didn’t feel right. My instincts were telling me something wasn’t okay.
There was somebody on my back deck. My dog was in his kennel and when they came into my yard they obviously hadn’t seen him until he came out. He was going off his nut at them. I could see him and he didn’t have his squeaky toy, however someone started desperately squeaking it as soon as I flicked on all my inside lights. I grabbed my phone to call for help, I flicked on all the backyard lights, the doors were clipped locked, but I got the key and used that to lock them again.
I don’t know where they went, but my dog stalked the back fence non stop. The area was searched however they were never found.
I realise that they must have been there for a while. What if my back doors had of been unlocked? They could’ve made their way through the house to me and I would’ve been cornered. I will never know why they were there, but the fact they couldn’t get into my house really slowed them up.
I can’t stress enough how doing something as simple as locking your doors could prevent something from happening. At home or even when you’re driving around at night. Men and women should both do this. They’re not places you would expect something to happen, but you simply never know. And the quick task of clipping your doors locked will in no way impact on you or let fear control you, you’ve just taken a very easy preventative measure.
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I was living in Coburg 5 years ago and I remember getting on the tram at around 7:30pm, it was winter, cold and dark. As I got off the tram to walk home I had a feeling I was being followed, behind me was a car, with its headlights off and 4 guys walking silently behind me, I started running, and I remember hearing “the bitch is getting away”. the guys chased me, however I’m so so so lucky I got away. Hearing stories like Jills scare me me so much. Another thing to point out was that I usually listen to my Ipod as I walk around, and it was one of the rare times I wasnt listening to it. My heart goes out to Jill and her family.
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Well said Megan, you summed it up very nicely.
I have been afraid of violence in some form or another since I was young. Even though I was a very confident and assertive child, the violence outside my ‘bubble’ made me fearful of the future. I travelled extensively and lived alone in foreign countries but that underlying fear – I assume all women have it – never leaves and it was hightened for me as I was attacked in the middle of the day about 15metres from my front door. I spoke to the police but since I had no idea where the man lived or anything they were reluctant to persue to case. I saw him again with his friend the following week. He instantly recognised me and the pair of them looked to plot something. I waited until I was closer then dashed into teh road and bolted. I drove to my boyfriends house, he said, but they didn’t do anything did they? So whats the big deal? He couldn’t even begin to fathom that it was the what ifs that had me so terrified, that I felt I’d had a very near miss. Since then I’ve been very cautious.
I have a little girl now and I often think of what the world might be like when she is older. I am scared for her because I have so little faith that we will ever have a government tough enough to make really tough laws to protect women and children. I fear the world will continue its seeming downward spiral and I pray each day she will be safe and never have to experience the violence I’ve seen or experienced in my lifetime.
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I like this post because it reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend years ago when we talked about how we just “knew” what rape was when were young girls (5 years old) even though no-one had ever told us what it was. It was like it was just a natural understanding of the inherent vulnerability of being female. I think this post is spot-on. People can counter-claim all they like but the reality is that being female is a ‘risk-factor’.
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It’s far from ideal that women can’t go out of the door without feeling safe, but I wonder to what extent society will ever redress this problem. When I was at uni in the 90s, the refrain was ‘Reclaim the Night’. Articles like this, twenty years on, convince me that the night is yet to be reclaimed and probably never will be.
I saw a slogan below that read “Society teaches ‘Don’t get raped’ rather than ‘Don’t Rape’”. In the context of violent rape, I can’t bring myself to agree with this slogan on a few levels.
Firstly, it’s inobservant; messages that rape is wrong are everywhere. TV, movies, books, school curricula, parental values and it’s deemed criminal in our legislation. The message is out there, but the problem is the perpetrators of violent rape don’t give a sh*t.
If the slogan can gain traction in the area of grey rape, then more power to it, but it’s never going to cut through to a criminal like the one that we fear might have abducted Jill. I’m cynical enough to believe that mental illness means that this type of perpetrator will never be expunged from society.
Secondly, it concerns me that affirmative action in response to messages like this slogan might mean that women abandon or erode sensible precautions to reduce their risk. I’m talking about stuff like sticking with your drunk friends or if you intend to leave for the night or meet with a strange guy, ensure that your friends have met him or know his details. The slogan probably has a use amongst young men who don’t correctly understand the boundaries, but won’t even cause a recidivist rapist to blink.
We need to guard against what IS, not what SHOULD be. You wouldn’t suddenly decide that it’s wrong that harmful bacteria exists and therefore stop washing your hands.
Finally, how much headspace should the fear of (sexual) violence be given?
There are rational fears and there are irrational fears.
Examples of rational fears:
Rape, violence, spiders, snakes & bacteria etc.
Irrational fears include:
Mice, cockroaches, moths & the dark.
I think that you can become afraid of a rational fear to an irrational extent and it becomes life limiting. For example, some people can become so afraid of bacteria that they wash their hands skinless, won’t touch people and things directly, etc. In terms of bacteria, you need to strike a balance between sensible hygiene practices and becoming the girl in the bubble.
I know quite a few more women than men who are quite irrationally afraid of moths & cockroaches. I mean what are they going to do, flutter or skitter you to death? So my experiences have led me to believe that women are more prone to fear than men and that they are prepared to give that emotion more free rein and legitimacy it more than men. The only blokes I know who are afraid of cockroaches are pommy.
So while I recognise that the fear of rape & violence is quite rational, I ponder whether some women give this fear too much attention and undermine their enjoyment of life to an extent that they don’t need.
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Really great comment.
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Awesome comment, Anonymous, this is exactly what I was trying to say! It’s important to look after your own safety and take all sensible precautions, but you shouldn’t let fear control your life to an irrational extent.
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Don’t take risks with your own safety and you’ll have nothing to fear. I have worked in a few seedy places and have travelled overseas. Nothing and no one scares me.
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What constitutes a risk in one persons mind might not in another. Look at Jill Meagher, she refused a friend walk her home because (my guess is) she thought it’s only a 5min walk, I’ve done it many times, I’ll be fine. She might never had encountered a problem before so had no reason to worry. She might not have seen her actions as risking her safety. And now she is missing. Unfortunately it’s not always that black and white.
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Considering approx 80% of violence against women is committed by someone known to the victim this is not always enough. You can be as careful as you like and avoid dark laneways etc but you’re way more likely to experience violence in a home. I used to feel fearless too! Until it happened to me!
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Do not agree at all. Men and women alike fear these disgusting (yes, mostly male) attackers. The boy that got king hit in Kings Cross, the young apprentice chef who was stabbed in Parramatta – and many more that go unreported, are men that are subjected to attacks as badly and as often as women are.
And by confining the idea of rape to women only – you completely discount the hundreds of young boys or men that have been raped by clergy and other disgusting predators of the like.
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I do not think the average man fears being raped. Maybe some of them fear being bashed, but not raped. The gender difference here is relevant, given the obvious dominance in physical strength males have compared with females.
Boys and the clergy is another point altogether, pedophilia. Drawing attention to the inherent dangers faced by females does not diminish or discount their abuse in any way.
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I think everyone (especially women) should read a wonderful book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. I have reread it a couple of times it’s almost like a personal reminder to listen to you instincts and trust your gut feelings.
I’m currently loaning my copy to a friend who was recently attacked in a park on her morning walk.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Gift-Fear-Gavin-Becker/dp/0440226198
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I’m reading it at the moment! Definitely recommend. IT teaches you that fear is not a bad thing and just a way of your body/mind picking up and responding to on signals around you.
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I want to know if there is a link to the Dutch backpacker’s assault that happened in mid-July. She was lured under a set up in St Kilda / Balaclava when a fair haired guy (approx. 30 she says) told her she was being followed by another black car (and pointed at one nearby) and offered her a ride in his red car, where he drove to a nearby laneway and assaulted her. (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/youre-being-followed-backpacker-sexually-assaulted-after-con-20120801-23dvb.html)
To me it looks as if the guy in the blue hoodie in the Jill Meagher footage may be telling her some BS story as well to trick her, and when he lifts his arms up (some said as if to touch her), to me he’s actually pointing or gesturing behind them where she looks once or twice. Eerily similar to the other case.
Plus, reports now coming in this morning by a witness that they saw a car make a u turn on Sydney Road as the blue hoodie man approached her, also that there was another man possible involved ahead of them. From the lack of witnesses to her being snatched, lack of any evidence of a struggle, to the fact she was on the phone to a family member at the time, plus the blatantly/ brazenly returning to put her handbag back 48 hours later, I’ve no doubt these guys have done this before. Whoever has done this appears to have done so very confidently.
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While I’m well aware this happens, I don’t live in a world of fear and violence.
What interests me is why there are not more people coming forward.
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People coming forward – do you mean witnesses? Because I thin there have been quite a number of women coming forward with harrassment / near-miss experiences in the area.
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Lulu – Lots of people were in the same street at the time, nobody from the CCTV footage has come forward. Not One.
As for the near misses, aside from one sole report the rest only started coming forward when this story hit the news. If police had known there were multiple incidents over a period of months they could have already caught they guys responsible.
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I heard on the news this morning that one of the men (not the blue hoodie) from the CCTV footage had come forward to police.
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No, I mean people coming forward having seen Gillian.
The time for people to come forward about near misses was to the police at the time it happened. If Police aren’t aware of these hot spots, there’s not much they can do about it.
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As an aside, Flutterby – I phoned the police (NSW) just yesterday to report a ‘flasher’ hanging around with his pants round his ankles pointing his dick at me from the bushes, while I was jogging in the park the day before. The response I got was that it was a bit strange, but if it happened again could I phone them straight away! Well I’m afraid I don’t run with my phone, never have and never will.
I have to say I was a bit surprised he didn’t even want to note it down somewhere, but that’s what happened. My point being – maybe people had tried to report strange things but had no luck.
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Very well said Megan and spot on.
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I have been raped twice – once when I was fourteen and just this year at thirty three. Both times by men who were known to me – a family friend and a friend of my husband. I am currently going thru the court process for the current crime. It is the most difficult situation I have ever been through. But if more women disclosed to the community and or went to the police, then the rapists are the ones that would be living in fear. Same thing goes for child sexual assault – if Australia did an advertising campaign along the same lines as the drink driving campaign – eg billboards ‘Do not sexually assault children’ we could break down the shame and fear that victims feel and again move the fear to the perpetrators. Bring the issues into the light and take away the shame and stigma of sexual assault for women, men and children.
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Good luck with the court case. I hope everything goes well for you.
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Keep strong, what awful experiences for you to have had, I can’t even imagine it. Good luck with your case and know that you’re incredible.
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How incredibly horrific
I am so so sorry you’ve experienced this. It shows exactly how women are NEVER at fault and the vast majority of the time it is someone known not a random stranger in a dark alley. It makes it all the more horrific when it is someone you wouldn’t expect/thought was trustworthy. However I am very glad you reported it and are fighting it in court. I wish you every success and am 100% behind you. I really hope you have a supportive husband, family and friends to assist you.
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… Poor people don’t get raped? What?
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Sorry Jess, I meant rich women don’t fear being trafficked like poor women do. That’s why I wrote: “researchers say all women fear the most…”
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There’s a similar article, posted today by a male blogger:
http://shoutingatthevoid.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/women-have-the-right-to-feel-safe/
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As the guy who wrote the blog, I’ll make one addition to this argument – it’s not that there’s any statistically great chance that a woman will be attacked on any given night. Women shouldn’t have to be afraid because they ARE quite safe. Megan sites a couple of outlying cases that make her afraid, but they’re reported on precisely BECAUSE they’re abnormal. There’s a greater chance of car accident than…(etc. etc.). The problem is that woman are constantly TOLD they should be afraid. Melbourne’s streets are, by and large, safe to walk. This is a tragic outlier, and I hate the idea that women feel afraid now, even though they’re just as safe today as they were last week.
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Hi Ed, good blog. You hate it but do you like your wife walking home alone in the early hours of the morning?
I’m sorry, but last week they weren’t 100% safe either. They were quite safe, you are right. The rest is risk. And we take risks every day of our lives, all of us.
But the risk for females particularly at night is higher because at least 50% of the population are physically stronger, and where they are mentally well who knows this?
There is an extra danger for us, so we must always try to be careful. It’s a sad fact of life that I do not believe will ever change.
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Hi Ed,
You’ll notice my article doesn’t just talk about random acts of violence towards women on the street. I’m talking about ranges of circumstances that specifically affect women. I’d argue that it’s not safe to walk up the Merri Creek when there is a sex attacker who has struck a number of times and not been caught.
As you’ll see from this comment thread, a lot of women don’t feel safe in a range of unpleasant circumstances, for a range of very good reasons. Having a man tell us we’re safe doesn’t really take that away, even if you think we are.
Thanks.
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But the stats are interpretive – you’re at more risk of being in a car accident because you’re more likely to be driving a car. But being a woman walking home alone at night – like the former police commissioner said – is like driving drunk.
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Women, particularly in australia have little to fear in comparison to others around the world. Stop being so sensationalist and perpetuating moral panic… did you ever think how many women walk home from the same location have have NOTHING happen to them?
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But we’re not talking about the rest of the world – we’re talking about a suburb that is relative to us. This isn’t an isolated story. It’s not sensationalist. It’s real.
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Many women would have walked down that road safely. However, after the news of Jill broke, many women have come out and mentioned near-misses that they had, most of which were never reported to the Police. It happens a lot more than we realise.
We never know the full story of what has happened in any area. The media report such a tiny fraction of what the Police deal with daily, and there is a high chance that other incidents remain unreported to the Police.
I don’t think it’s perpetuating moral panic, but it is a reminder that you can’t just assume it won’t ever happen to you. You always need to be aware of your own safety.
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I have attempted to report abduction/assault attempts to the authorities only to have them refuse to create a record-on more than one occasion. Once I even had two independent witnesses and still they refused to create a record.
This may also be one reason behind why there are no reports ‘in the system.’ This doesn’t mean reports haven’t been made.
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I can’t comment on your incidents but I know in some cases they refuse because they have no power to act.
But that is also a reason why there would be a lot ‘unknown’ about an area.
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Yes, that’s the common excuse but its funny that I’ve never had any trouble getting a report number when reporting a petty theft where they have equally little power to act.
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Spot on Golden Dragon – I’ve had a similar experience.
I now know why the police don’t have any previous background on these matters – they aren’t very good at taking down the phone call that reports it!
Surely the computer age has made this detail easier than ever before?
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Golden Dragon and Guest (I don’t have a reply option for Guest’s comment),
I really don’t agree with saying that they just make excuses or they don’t bother to take reports. Actually, I find it hurtful.
I have a very closed loved one who currently serves in the Force. He and his colleagues go through so much. He is a changed man after everything he has seen. Don’t take what the media say about what Police do as Gospel – you really don’t hear anything about what they do. They work so hard. I know of many who do their 12 hour shift but end up having to stay back for hours just to finish work, and some even go in on their days off, because they are 100% committed to their jobs and they try to help as many people as they physically can.
I’d much rather them look over a theft of some belongings if it means they can be on hand at more serious emergencies for the people who really need it.
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Are you male?
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Just because women in some areas of the world experience higher rates of violence than we do doesn’t make it any less significant. Why is it a competition? Should we wait till a certain number of women are attacked or abducted before doing anything? I don’t want ANY woman to have their lives ruined or severely impacted by violence.
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This is not about moral panic. This is about the range of reasons women in particular feel unsafe. I’m not telling anyone not walk wherever they want whenever they want, I’m describing the situation we face on a daily basis.
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Well written article Megz. It’s horrible to think this has happened so close to home. It’s sick and terrifying
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It doesnt matter what we think, or how statististically safe we are. This happened to a woman in my neighbourhood, at pubs I would frequent. What’s terrifying is this has now moved from that concept of being vulnerable, i.e. that feeling of occasional fear you get walking alone, to a reality. This has happened to somebody my age, in my own backyard to somebody who knows people I know. We don’t know what’s happened to her or whether this will happen again. As far as my friends and I are feeling right now, we could now all be targets.
I pray that she is ok.
I’m not trying to make everybody live their life with fear. But right now, it’s rife. Megan is right. We are not just feeling fear for this poor beautiful lady. We feel fear for our own safety. Because we are women.
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Actually no. The real things you have to fear in the developed world are serious illness (cancer, etc.) and car accidents, but then, those aren’t sexy and don’t get page views.
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Fear of sexual assault is now classed as “sexy”???
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Nothing sexy about rape or sexual assault.
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Violence against women, domestic & otherwise, is widespread & happens daily…
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I’ve been in car accidents and I’ve been assaulted. I know which one was worse, and which one I’m still terrified of, and it doesn’t involve my car.
I think the reason rape is so terrifying is the malice it requires. That a human could cut off all their empathy and deliberately terrify, degrade and hurt another human jars with everything society teaches us in terms of how to behave and how to expect others to behave. When you’re assaulted you can’t comprehend how the other person could do such a thing and the struggle to fit that experience into your previous understanding of the world (and of men, yourself, sexuality, safety, etc) means that all your conceptions of the world are thrown out. During the assault your control, rights and bodily integrity are taken away from you – things that you always assume are untakable. Once you realise they can be taken at any moment, your entire view of the world changes and many people never feel safe again.
None of this occurs with car accidents or cancer. Don’t get me wrong – both of them are horrific and I pray that neither happens to anyone (else) I love. But (with rare exceptions in car accidents) they are not caused by humans deliberately harming other humans. That’s why they’re not as shocking, I think.
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Great explanation anon. You’d think it would be fairly obvious to most people but I guess not…
And since when do car accidents and cancer not get reported in the media?
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Perfect. Thank you.
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Car accident and serious illness compared to the fear of being RAPED?
Are you serious? Nobody ‘fears’ a car accident because we can’t imagine it happening to us even though we know the statistics – deal with that when/if it happens, a serious illness is inevitable if we last long enough given we have approximately 100% chance of death at some point, but to imagine oneself being raped… well that is utterly, indescribably, diabolically terrifying.
Unless you are a robot.
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I just read the article someone posted below – it is AMAZING! So spot on. I wish every guy had to read it!!!
I’ve posted the link again for anyone who missed it:
http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger’s-rapist-or-a-guy’s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/
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It is good, yes. I
n the context of trying to educate my sons I think I’ll still prefer to go with the “progressive consent” concept.
I hope my sons will grow to be kind, patient, thoughtful. But I don’t want them to feel bed because they are (will be) men, let alone somewhat responsible for other men’s atrocities.
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What’s the progressive consent concept?
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Just read it Alice, and I want to print it out and hand it out on the train, every pub, every bar, every club, every train station – everywhere! GQ, Zoo Magazine, all those men’s magazines and websites need to publish it too.
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Yep I’ve been spreading the word about this article lately- it’s a few years old but totally relevant! I wish everyone could read it and understand!
This one about rape culture is also excellent:
http://kateharding.net/2007/04/14/on-being-a-no-name-blogger-using-her-real-name/
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Sami thanks for linking this article, I love it and it says everything I have always thought, but a whole let more eloquently, when I first read it I sent it to all of my closest friends and family, but I’d lost the link.
Megan this article is very insightful and a really thought provoking read.
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Further to my comment below. I just looked up statistics.
In 2011 there were 56 women and 148 men killed in car accidents in Victoria.
In the same time there were 91 murders. The breakdown is not available by gender.
Yes everyone should be sensible but we take risks everyday, being afraid of something bad happening to you is not only counter productive it is useless.
Like I said below, we are terrible at risk assessment.
Remember the line from the government about terrorism?
Be alert but not alarmed.
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FANTASTIC ARTICLE. I agree with absolutely all of it. Thank you for writing this.
Funnily enough, I used to be a lot more paralyzed by this fear UNTIL I was sexually assaulted. For some reason I’m not as scared when I’m alone etc any more – almost like I feel the worst has happened now so I can relax a bit. That is, when I’m not having PTSD flashbacks, etc. They’re soo fun. *sarcasm*
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Thank you Alice.
Every woman’s experience is different, but I’m glad you’re relaxed. I’m sorry to hear about your PTSD flashbacks. That’s an awful thing.
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I know a woman who was violently sexually assualted in her home a few years ago. She was unstrapping her children from their carseats in her driveway when a man approached her with a knife and told her that if she cooperated he would not hurt her children. He made her perform a number of degrading sex acts, viciously beat her and made her cook him a meal, all while she was pretending everything was okay so that her children would not be scared.
When he was later apprehended, he tried to use that meal against her in his defence, claiming that she chose to do it and didn’t try and make him leave – while he was sitting in her living room, with her children, holding a knife, having just raped her several times.
I am scared of a situation like that. it would not have to be that extreme, but I know that I am vulnerable – because I am a woman, because I have children I would do anything to protect and because I am still supposed to be completely responsible for my own safety, despite having no control over the actions of other people. It scares me that I probably could not stop a man if he was really trying to hurt me.
While I know that both men and women are victims of violence, I completely agree that there is an extra element of fear for women. The worst thing about this is that I will have to teach to my daughter to be fearful – because she will need a healthy fear of the worst case scenario to keep her safe.
These fears don’t rule my life, I still go out and I live my life, but they are always in the back of my mind when I park my car, when I choose where to sit on a train, which public toilets I will or will not use and with the venues I choose to go to. It’s just always there.
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That’s shocking – I hope she’s been able to recover and heal. Some mothers are amazing with the lengths they go to protect their children – Love & strength to her.
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This article and the comments just prove once again that humans are terrible at risk assessment.
The world is NOT full of dangerous boogie men who lurk in dark alleys.
You are statistically more likely to be assaulted by someone you know.
You have a much higher chance of dying in a car crash than being abducted.
Think about the logistics and the risk for the perpetrator to try and abduct someone on a MAIN road where people are nearby then get them into a car, then dispose of them.
All the while hoping that she does not scream, no one walks out of a nearby bar, a car does not drive past, the victim does not fight back etc etc. Even to come back to near the scene and risk being spotted dropping the handbag.
Stranger abduction and even stranger murder is rare. The reason people remember Anita Cobby is because stuff like that happens so infrequently that when it does happen it is news.
While nobody as yet knows what happened in this case, the statistics do not point to the random stranger abducting someone off a street.
Comments below saying how scared they are to go out etc etc and yet you will get into a car twice a day where you have a bigger chance of being injured or killed.
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The article says that women fear being raped – which includes rape by people they know. I guess the reason that they feel particularly fearful walking alone through dark streets is because they are acutely aware of their vulnerability if something WERE to go wrong – even though, granted, it’s statistically unlikely to.
When you’re assaulted by someone you know (as I have been, by my best friend…well, former best friend now!), you don’t feel that same fear prior because you don’t know they’re going to assault you. If you did, you would leave, and those “know perp” assaults would never happen. But you can’t live your life scared of every man you know – so you transfer that fear into the “walking alone at night” scenario.
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Yay x 1000. I feel that women often over state stranger danger risk, at the expense of getting on with life normally without looking over their shoulder.
The negatives of living in this state of somewhat illogical fear is probably 1000 times more negative to women overall than the combined impact of actual stranger danger crimes like murder and abduction.
The modern media does not help the cause unfortunately, chosing to fill our lives with minute by minute updates of the most hideous, yet statistically rare, crime events (like what happened last Friday).
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Just a reminder – can everyone please try and stick to one name per post? It makes it easier for the rest of us to follow the conversation.
Gracias.
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Yes, people talk about Anita Cobby’s murder like it was last week. It was in 1986! Those guys took 22 days to be rounded up, and they’ve been locked up never to be released.
Similar happens with child safety. I recently had someone point out the dangers of taking her kids into the city (which is New York for her) by linking the story about Leiby Kletzy. He was abducted and murdered within his own small Jewish community last year. His remains were found two days later, in his killer’s apartment – he was a member of the considered safe community too. These things, as you say, Clare, are so obsessed over in the press that they become distorted into stuff that happens all the time everywhere, when they’re incredibly rare isolated cases. That isn’t to detract from the awfulness of what has happened in these and similar cases, but just to put them into perspective.
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NYC was wonderful! The Worst thing about it was making sure the kids didn’t get lost in the crowds. I’d take my kids back there in a heartbeat.
Yes Anita Cobby’s was horrific, but as you say quite a while ago. I remember it, but none of my kids were alive then. I’ve also been to Sydney with no worries.
I think people need to be aware and careful, but not paranoid.
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Its not fair. We live in an age where anyone should be able to walk the streets 24/7 and be safe, no matter their age, gender or sexual orientation. Some people say that because we wear short dresses or high heels we invite the bad attention – no matter what someone is wearing or how they are acting that does not give another person the right to hurt them. It’s as simple as that. This story about Jill is terrible and my heart goes out to her family, and anyone else who has had to expirenxe this.
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I find it hard to believe rape is the thing women fear the most. I’ve been raped twice in my life, and whilst it was obviously a deeply traumatic experience I’d still rather be raped again than murdered or have a loved one be killed.
I have heard women say they’d rather be killed than raped, and honestly that’s just so offensive to me. Do these people really think I’d be better off dead than getting on with life?
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I’m glad you are alive.
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I think it’s because people don’t know whether they would have the strength that you do to continue on with their lives. Death is probably the easiest option.
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Poor Jill
And her poor husband, parents and family and friends. My thoughts are with them and for Jill to come home. xxxx
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I second Emma’s comment below. I would like to see men taught early on not to rape, rather than the emphasis being on women to make sure they don’t get raped. Or we could just lock all the men up at night to keep the women safe….
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both men and women are taught not to do a lot of things. There will always be those who break the rules no matter what they’ve been taught just because they are scumbags.
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