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Screen shot 2012 09 15 at 6.02.50 PM Violent Sydney CBD protests: Im scared by what comes next

Protesters in Hyde Park. Photo from Adam Boland.

by JAMILA RIZVI

Today was a beautiful sunny morning in Sydney and I woke up, excited to be going shopping with fellow Mamamia writer Lucy Ormonde. But instead of the usual calm and friendly atmosphere of Sydney’s CBD, we were met by scenes of riot police, angry protesters, violent chants and anxious bystanders.

The film Innocence of Muslims, which is a low budget film that mocks the Prophet Mohammed and Islam, has sparked angry protests across the world. The reaction to this film in the Muslim world has been extraordinary and it has led to violence breaking out in Egypt, Kenya, Tunisia, Iraq and Libya.

I had, perhaps naively, assumed that this level of outrage would not reach Australia. I was wrong.

In Sydney today, Lucy and I noticed several small groups of men, calling excitedly to one another in Arabic and running down the footpaths. To be honest, we thought little of it.

We first realised something wasn’t quite right when we noticed multiple ambulances rushing through the streets. Police cars followed. Riot police vans followed after that, skipping over the curb in their efforts to get to their destination as fast as possible.

We were shopping in Pitt Street, when we heard chanting and cries from the middle of the mall. Walking outside we saw what appeared to be a fairly peaceful protest – more than a third of the protesters were women and children.

There were some signs and a few banners but from what I saw, they were few and far between. The bulk of the protesters were dressed like anyone else in the CBD and the vibe was tense but didn’t feel angry.

It was about ten minutes later that we heard shouts from outside of Sportsgirl and so we threw down our purchases and ran into the street. There were around 100 police forming a barricade across the open area between the shops.

As we tried to move forward to see what was going on, we were pushed back by police and asked to move along as fast as we could. The police were armed and were deadly serious. It made me think how fast the mood in the city had changed – my adrenalin was pumping and I had gone from being an interested bystander to feeling decidedly unsafe.

Lucy – infinitely more sensible than I – suggested we get out of there.

A little later we headed to Hyde Park, where we saw a much diluted protest. The numbers were significantly fewer than what we saw in the city and the proportion of women and children has shrunk considerably. I saw several women who appeared to have been part of the protest initially, pushing prams and walking quickly; they were headed towards the train station.

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Police walk through Sydney’s CBD. Photo from Jamila Rizvi.

My impression of being around and near that protest today, was that many of the original protesters could see their peaceful demonstration being taken over by a violent and angry group of extremists, who carried disgraceful messages of hate – so they got out of there.

In the park, the mood of the protest had darkened. Police surrounded a group of men who all held signs carrying sick and disgusting slogans, many of which incited violence. We saw signs that said things like ‘Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell’ and ‘behead all those who insult the prophet’.

News channels have since reported that the protest in Hyde Park did turn violent, following a bystander yelling out that promoting murder was appalling. He was reportedly pelted with bottles and other hard objects and police had to intervene to protect him from the protesters.

Sky news is also showing footage of a policeman being wounded and photographs of children aged around 6 or 7 holding signs carrying the slogans I mentioned above are doing the rounds of Twitter. The images are truly sickening and I still can’t quite believe that they were captured in the city I live in.

From Adam Boland on Twitter (@postboxadam)

Today my mood went from curious, to uneasy, to disgusted, to scared.

I’m scared, not so much by what has happened today but by what comes next.

What was supposed to be a non-violent protest against a stupid and intolerant B-grade film, has gotten out of control. And with similar protests occurring the world over and sparking far more extreme violence – I am scared for what happens next.

Like all over the Western world, there is a minority of disenfranchised young Muslims here in Australia – mostly men – who are angry and disconnected. They feel misunderstood. They feel misrepresented. They feel alone.

Incidents like today give them somewhere to take that anger. And that is so very dangerous. In the era of social media, where it is almost impossible to identify ringleaders of such protests and when a message to take action can be spread in minutes – such protests can turn ugly faster than ever before.

It is now up to Australia’s Muslim leaders to stand up, condemn today’s protests and call out those who were involved for inciting and being violent. Those signs were disgusting, many of the chants were appalling. The Muslim community and Muslim leaders must shout from the rooftops that these were not the actions of peaceful protestors – they were the actions of extremists with a sick and perverted view of Islam.

But what is potentially as dangerous as the actions of protesters today, is the reaction of other Australians.

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A discarded sign from today’s protest. Photo from Lucy Ormonde.

And I want to implore those of you who will watch these scenes on your television screens tonight, with your hands over your mouths in shock: Do not let the actions of a violent and sick minority affect your view of the peaceful and good majority.

It is easy to have a xenophobic and angry reaction to what happened today. Don’t let yourself give in to that.

I know it is easy to have such a reaction – because there were moments today when I felt exactly that. There were moments when I felt sick and scared and wanted to scream – get out of my city, get out of my home, this is not what my country is about.

I know that sometimes it can be hard to believe because of what we see in the media – but the vast majority of Australian Muslims are tolerant, kind and peaceful people. And they are just at horrified at today’s scenes as you or I.

Don’t make them feel even more isolated and alone.

Instead, let’s take this opportunity to recommit to building a more inclusive and tolerant Australia.

Let’s blame and condemn the actions of those who deserve it, those who made our beautiful country’s most famous city a scary and ominous place to be today. But let’s not let that blame and condemnation extend to those who happen to share the same religion.

 

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  2. Tim Tam

    This fantastic article by Waleed Aly really put things in context for me about this issue.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/antius-violence-isnt-about-a-film-its-about-an-excuse-20120916-260cp.html

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    • jamilarizvi

      It was an outstanding piece, hey? I love the way Waleed writes.

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      • Tim Tam

        Yeah he is amazing Jamila! Fantastic writer and speaker.
        Respectful and articulate.
        Maybe he can write for MM about such political issues one day!!

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    • Anonymous

      The last article I read that involved him he was in a restaurant ‘surrounded by boozy businessmen.’ I’m neither a drinker nor a businessman but the smug, judgmental superiority of that totally unnecessary phrase has made me give him a wide berth ever since.

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  3. paul

    This protest was disgusting ,i feel bad for police how were injured ,and the innocent child who saw this things. please stand and dont let them to do this things again.

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  4. JosieY

    To all my Muslim cousins, I am sorry. I am sorry that some stupid and angry (mainly) young men are spoiling your beautiful and peaceful religion. I am sorry that some people will use this as an excuse to try and mock or reject you. I am sorry that you have made to feel ashamed of who you are. Please do not be ashamed. Many of us know that these pele are not representative of you any more than the KKK are representative of me. Peace and love to you all.

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  5. Annonymous

    What I struggle to understand in all protests is how hurting innocent police officers that, in this instance, have NOTHING to do with the film they are angry over helps anything?

    Imagine if we all acted like this when we were angry.
    Disgusting.

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  6. mohamad

    Can anyone tell me who this muslim leadership is? I have heard numerous times today that the leaders of the muslim community should do more. I am a practising muslim, and i dont know who this refers to. There is clergy in islam and therefore there are no leaders here.

    In anycase what are these apparant leaders supposed to do? The have been condemnations issued and the response has been thats not enough. So are they supposed to govern and police muslims? Or is it a law and order issue?

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    • mohamad

      Sorry, i ment there is no clergy in islam

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      • Googler

        Part of the problem is that there is no Muslim leadership, so calling on a representative ‘leader’ to denounce the violence isn’t really that useful.

        There are community leaders, but they are sometimes quite far removed and out of touch (in every way that matters) from moderate Muslims not actually living in within or near the community in question.

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  7. Disappointed

    I am all for different religions and people from different countries living in Australia but what has happened in Sydney is just disgraceful. It is people like those in the riots that give people of their religion a bad name. Australia has welcomed you and yet you write signs saying ‘behead people’ who disagree with your religion. In Australia we allow you to have your beliefs and views but at the end of the day we have laws and you just can not break them with such awful acts. I am honestly disgusted by this and it makes me sad that people have to be so violent.

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  8. Jamila

    I am appalled and embarrassed by the actions of some of my brothers and sisters. Firstly, the idiots protesting and throwing bottles at police are not honouring their religion. They are being sinned! Islam is about being Peaceful,modest, respectful of others,educate others on how beautiful our religion is !. Yes, we are generally a victim to racial remarks but why give others the satisfaction of being able to say bad things .People now will defenity be questioning our faith. Thank you to those involved in the protest for giving Australia another reason to look bad upon us .And the mother of the child holding that sign , it is appaling you are teaching and brainwashing your child at such a small age. I would like my brothers and sisters to read about our religion and actually start preaching the actual mean of islam not the mean of your culture or personal beliefs.

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  9. beee

    While I know the people responsible for the violet turn are no where near a true representation of all Muslims, this is yet another reason for me to hate religion.

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  10. Guest

    I have no issue whatsoever with peaceful people of any religion. I support the right of religious freedom as long as the people who pratice that religion do not use their religious beliefs to harm others or affect their rights.

    I do however have a huge problem with the fact that what happened on Saturday in Sydney is an unnacceptable display of violence which should not be tolerated – and yet pretty much everyone got away with it or will not be punished severely enough.

    Why weren’t they arrested on the spot?

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    • sophie

      there were arrests.

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  11. vivacious

    It seems to me that in any kind of religion or movement there are extremists. There are plenty of Christian ones, just think of the Westbro Baptist Church. I often wonder if because the majority of Australians come from a christian background – even if you aren’t christian you have a lot of exposure to it – we find it easy to see Christian extremists as “nut jobs” or a vocal minority.

    I have no idea if this is correct, but my gut feel would be the percentage of Muslim extremists, to peaceful Muslims would be the same as for Christians. Just without the same innate level of understanding of the religion in the general public, it seems like those who get publicity, which is always for these kinds of acts, represent the rest which is not correct.

    I’m really glad to see Muslim leaders speaking out against this, I think it is really important. But I’m still shocked that something like this happened in Australia.

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  12. Urban Fringe

    I remember hearing a commentator talking on the radio not long after the London riots saying that there was no overriding ethnic or religious profile to the rioters. However, a very large proportion were young, male and unemployed. I wonder if this particular group of rioters (not demonstrators) are less interested in righting a ‘wrong’ against the Islam faith (and thus doing the broader Muslim community a great disservice with their non-representation behavior) and more interested in brawling and letting off steam. I’m not sure how we begin to tackle the problem of violence in young men – but surely it has to with other basic structures like community integration, being employed and feeling accepted.

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  13. Anonymous

    How much more toleratant can we be in this country? I disagree that these men feel alone. These men probably started off like the kids in the pictures holding signs calling for beheadings and have been raised in a manner in which hatred is drummed into them by extremist leaders. I know the majority of the muslim community is all for peace but there is also a fraction of the community who do preach hatred against anyone who doesn’t follow islam. These are the type of people who believe in Sharia law and all i want to ask them is if sharia law is so great then why don’t they go live in Iran or Saudi Arabia.

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  14. ash

    How is everyone not more terrified by this? I honestly couldn’t care less what religion you are, what you believe it, each to their own in so many ways. But I shouldn’t have to feel terrified that some extremist groups will take matters into their own hands and potentially kill innocent people. Why does this happen? I wish there was an easy solution…

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  15. Mum of two cheeky monkeys

    I suppose I disagree that a legal right to free speech is relevant at all when it is ingrained into our culture and is a firmly held belief. I am guessing there is no legal right to growing my hair long or wearing red shoes but i still want to live in a country where i get the choice.

    My original argument stated that many people immigrate to Australia because of the rights afforded to them, and a small minority have been driven to violence by the same right to free speech. I think that is worth exploring for Muslims and non Muslims alike.

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  16. Alana

    Aaah religion, great invention isn’t it? Better off without it in this modern, free-thinking, democratic country. Don’t get me started on the Catholics.

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    • alyssakt

      Dalai Lama wrote this on his Facebook last week:
      “All the world’s major religions, with their emphasis on love, compassion, patience, tolerance, and forgiveness can and do promote inner values. But the reality of the world today is that grounding ethics in religion is no longer adequate. This is why I am increasingly convinced that the time has come to find a way of thinking about spirituality and ethics beyond religion altogether.”

      He’s a forward-thinker!

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      • AJL

        A wonderful post alyssakt…
        as for your throw away line Alana about Catholics – surely in light of all this you could exercise some tolerance and appropriate wording.
        As a Catholic I am highly offended.

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      • mumofthree

        Off topic, but the Dalai Lama is late to the party. Agnostics have been making this argument for centuries.

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        • AlyssaKT

          It’s a shame Agnostics and Athiests are so unorganised! ;)

          He’s forward-thinking for a spiritual leader.

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  17. Mum of two cheeky monkeys

    I would entirely disagree. There may be no legal right, but our country is built on a foundation of democracy, which gives every Australian a voice. I think it’s an implicitly held belief, as much of the modern history of the western world has stemmed from the change affected by response to religious persecution. Since we were founded by Britain we inherited much of their culture, and since the civil war in 1640 Britons have been protected from religious persecution. This has led to the concept of free speech and choice and should remain protected today.

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    • Me again

      I’m not sure what you are ‘strongly disagreeing’ with? I just wanted to point out there is no legal entitlement to free speech here i.e. no ‘right’ to free speech. We don’t disagree that it’s an ‘implicitly held belief’.

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  18. Susie

    I am a Muslim Woman, I go to New York city every year. When I get back home, I write short stories of my experiences. I enjoy my time New York don’t fee hate like I do in Australia. I see more Fanatics here then I do in New York which I find so strange. Australia really needs to start exploring these fanatics prayer halls and communities and patrol Social Networks.

    I have come across so many spreading hate, even against other muslims (such as myself and my community) on Facebook, its come to the point that now my parents fear what the outcome would be if we reveal what sect of Islam we come from to the other Muslims.

    I am tired of having to explain and defend myself to Non Muslims and Muslims.

    Pick up a copy of ‘On Western Sydney’ so many talented writers both Muslim and Non Muslim.

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  19. Guest

    Not so long ago Mia wrote a piece titled “this is what a bad parent looks like”. Well that mother taking a photo of her kid with the behead placard? THAT is what a bad parent looks like.

    Where is DOCS?

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    • chillax

      Agreed. That is child abuse in my mind. It was very difficult to explain that to my own children when I am raising them to be tolerant citizens who respect all cultures.

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    • MikeyMike

      DOCS have been asked to investigate the mother photographing the kid holding the banner (according to news.com.au) , so we’ll see what happens.

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      • chillax

        Thats good news. I have also read that a Queensland MP has suggested the children exposed to this form of violence deserve better homes and should be removed from their parents.

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      • pennypacker

        I just heard on TV a Muslim spokeswoman , saying that before we judge that particular mother, that we need to get our facts straight. Her excuse was that the mother might not of been able to read English , and that she was just taking a photo of her child holding a sign! seriously!!!

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  20. Anonymous

    A *more* inclusive and tolerant Australa? How much more inclusive and tolerant can we be, Jamilla?

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    • An Idle Dad

      Well for starters, we can work towards making these chaps on the weekend more inclusive and tolerant, couldn’t we?

      That would make Australian ‘more’ inclusive and tolerant.

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      • chillax

        Idle Dad, how do you propose we do that? Their very actions show that they have no desire to view the world any other way than the way they do. They are the extremists who dont reflect the values of the majoity of the Muslim population.
        How do we undo generations of this type of conditioning, that as we have seen with our own eyes begins in early childhood?
        My guess is that we are not dealing with educated sectors of their population so there is a lot of ignorance and they have been brainwashed with a lifetime of hysterical propoganda that would need to be undone before any sort of tolerance could begin to be learned.. And they have to want that, which unless they are threatened with some sort of jail term I doubt that wold be likely.

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        • An Idle Dad

          I guess my faith in Western ideals, and their superiority over ignorant intolerance must be stronger than all those here throwing their hands up and declaring Australian culture defeated at the sight of 200 angry men.

          The fact that something might be hard isn’t an excuse to abandon our society’s values.

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  21. Mum of two cheeky monkeys

    This makes me really sad. I don’t know what drives people to the point that they feel so angry. I wish everyone could get along.

    I do feel that their is a cultural nuance at play here. I read the Satanic Verses many years ago trying to understand why it cause such outrage in Muslim countries and I just can’t fathom it. It raises many questions and if I was Muslim I probably wouldn’t agree with it, but Dan Brown’s Angels and Demons simply did not illicit the same violent response, and I wish I could understand why.

    In the interest of greater understanding, and hopefully tolerance, can someone comment on this? Is it possible that we non-Muslims are overlooking something intrinsic in some Muslim cultures that could spark such outrage? Many people migrate to a country like Australia, simply to take advantage of the rights afforded to its citizens like free speech. Why then does such free speech drive those same people to violence, no matter how repugnant the message?

    I have always believed that I must celebrate someone else’s right to loudly vociferate a different opinion to mine simply because it is their right. Could this simply be a case of misunderstanding the ingredients in our cultural melting pot? And if so, how do we strive for greater tolerance? When people migrate from countries where burning effigies and other forms of violence are not entirely uncommon, how do we encourage their cultural differences without being intolerant, and still keep our communities safe?

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    • Anonymous

      A little bit off topic but I want to let people know Australians have no ‘right’ to free speech. There is no constitution, no bill of rights guaranteeing us freedom of speech. Yes we can pretty much say what we want but there is no law supporting that right. I think people have seen it mentioned on American tv. shows ( ‘my right to freedom of speech’) and just assume it’s the same here but it’s not.

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  22. Tim Tam

    All I can say is – how DARE they come to this peaceful country and behave like this. It makes me SO ANGRY.

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    • alyssakt

      Many of the protesters were born here.

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      • Tim Tam

        That is even worse.

        But it makes me wonder then about how these young people have been raised by their parents – who probably weren’t born here but have been lucky to migrate here. What values are they teaching them. Esp. after seeing that poor child with that sign. It is scary.

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        • AlyssaKT

          What were the parents of the violent participants of the Cronulla Riots teaching them?

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          • Anonymous

            To defend themselves against the crap the Muslims kept throwing at them. They reclaimed their suburb from the constant abuse and violence Muslims were throwing at them. They bit back, and good on them for doing so.

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  23. Anonymous

    Muslim leaders condem the demonstration.
    http://muslimvillage.com/2012/09/16/28567/australian-islamic-leaders-call-for-wisdom-and-patience/

    This does nothing to alleviate my concerns.

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    • Mum of two cheeky monkeys

      I completely agree. I have heard many Muslims condemn the violence and I applaud that. But the part of this particular statement that worries me is the reference to the movie not being free speech. That is in fact exactly what it is.

      Love it or hate it, passionately agree with the sentiment or vehemently disagree, the concept of free speech is the right of individuals to say absolutely anything they please. This statement seems to condemn the violence on one hand while discouraging the right of the filmmaker on the other. The film sounds deplorable, but the filmmaker still has a right to make it. The statement should make that clear.

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      • An Idle Dad

        I agree with your point, however all religions want to be free of criticism, and to make it law.

        In Ireland, it is now illegal to blaspheme against the Catholic Church.

        An old law, no longer enforced? Nope, brand new 2010 law.

        Basically, saying “God does not exist” in Ireland is illegal and punishable by the government.

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  24. Carly Findlay

    Jamila this is a brilliant piece. I really like your insight in your articles. You’re a great addition to the MM team.

    On a completely superficial note though, when unread this and saw you and Lucy shopped in Pitt St I got excited (and sad) because I was there too – at the exact same time! I’m not in Sydney much but often hope to bump into a MM staffer when I travel there ;) I got out of the mall and had lunch just as the protests started.

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  25. Judie

    This sums it up pretty well for me:
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/an-open-letter-20120915-25ziq.html

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    • Tim Tam

      Yep. Spot on.

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    • Mum of two cheeky monkeys

      Love love love Peter Fitzsimmons.

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    • Anonymous

      Typically, Fitzsimmons calls all who have warned about this ‘racists.’ The UK can finally and belatedly see what has happened to their country. Sarah Hanson-Young is yet to make a statement. Should be enlightening.

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  26. Ella

    Jamila – I know you’re a journalis, but the best thing you can do in such situations is get out of there. Crowds always make harder for emergency service personel & people always behave differently when they know they’re being watched. Wise advice Lucy, to keep moving.

    It makes me feel so sad that Australians engaged in behaviour like that. But I think if we are afraid, that will only spur further violence.

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  27. Anonymous

    Here is the statement issued by Muslim leaders. They have called for ‘wisdom and patience.’ Just what exactly do they want Muslims to be patient for?!

    It is piss weak wrist slap that in no way alleviates my concern.

    http://muslimvillage.com/2012/09/16/28567/australian-islamic-leaders-call-for-wisdom-and-patience/

    There is another article there that applauds the renewed presence of Islam in Barcelona.

    The world is headed for trouble. I can feel it. I am frightened for my children and I am frightened for Australa, one of the most progressive, tolerant countries on earth.

    ‘She’ll be right mate’ is not going to work this time.

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    • Anon

      Patient for the time when they can live here as they wish according to their religion. They want legal pluralism, sharia law. This is no secret. They are very honest about it. Their polygamous marriages are accepted by centrelink. One wife is the legal wife and the other defacto. They want this acknowledged and accepted more widely.

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      • I just checked the definition of de facto in the Family Law Act and yep, that is absolutely correct.

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    • safiyah

      Patience, because the films impact will pass. Not because we want Sharia. Come on!! Patience is considered a good trait to have in Islam.

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  28. Anonymous

    Australia is a land of immigrants. Even though I have some Aboriginal blood, I am mostly British. I have an Aunty who fled here by boat. My cousins are half Asian. My daughter is married to a German, my son is dating an Indian girl and his best mate is Chinese.

    But they are all Australian.

    There is no doubt in my mind that they would fight for this country. They would never call for their fellow countrymen to be beheaded.

    Call me a racist, call me xenophobic, call me what you like but I will not be silenced on the issue of mass Muslim migration any longer.

    It is a discussion that should have been had years ago.

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    • An Idle Dad

      Who remembers “Germans don’t understand democracy”? Who remembers when Norton Street Sydney was dangerous, instead of the celebrated “Little Italy”?

      First it was the Catholics, then the Irish, then the Germans, then the Italians, then the Greeks, then the Asians.

      All of them were all supposed to destroy Australia with their incompatible, deeply flawed cultural values over the last one hundred and ten years.

      Guess what? Never happened.

      In ten years you will hold up the example of how your granddaughter is ‘Muslim but Aussie” while railing against Kenyan immigration (or whoever it turns out to be), with their incompatible deeply flawed culture which will destroy Australian culture.

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  29. Anonymous

    How tolerant would the Saudi Arabians be if I walked down their street in a bikini, holding my girlfriend’s hand and drinking a beer?

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    • Anonymous

      You don’t need to travel that far. Come down to Bankstown and try it.

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  30. Tracy

    I bet the idiot who made the film is finding all this stupidity hilarious. Violent protest to a dumb film like that only reinforces their opinion!?!?

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    • Bradley

      I’ll bet that he isn’t !

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    • He’s definitely not. Apparently he is holed up in a secret location in Los Angeles with bodyguards and security, terrified for his life.

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      • Annonymous

        While he is no where near this behaviour!!

        Pointless and ridiculous – conduct this disgusting protest in his backyard not ours!

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        • Anonymous

          Because the Americans are still armed.

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  31. LJA

    This weekend there was also a ridiculous violent brawl at a rugby league match in Brisbane. 50 parents and players were said to be involved and it sounds horrific – police were called and people were injured. This is JUNIOR football. The violent actions in Sydney are terrible and the outcome equally sad for muslim communities. Let’s not vilify muslims based on the misguided actions of the few when our footy dads can’t even control themselves at a weekend game.

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    • Anonymous

      I absolutely agree that sporting violence is abhorrent but we have two different situations here and it is dangerous to confuse the two. The Muslim demonstration is being violently played out across the Muslim world. They are calling for beheadings, for gawd’s sake!

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      • AlyssaKT

        I understand what you’re saying but I disagree that LJA was confusing the two.
        What I see too often in our country is the hypocritical response to abhorrent acts by white Australians compared to abhorrent acts by “minorities”; eg. A robbery by a white person will be described as “medium height and build, with black baseball cap and red hooded jacket” but anyone of a racial appearance other than white gets “There are fears over gang-related crime after a man of Middle Eastern appearance caused fear today…”
        After the Cronulla Riots I was saddened and ashamed of the white Australians’ behaviour but I didn’t feel that their actions directly reflected on me (locally anyway, on a global scale it certainly did), but the actions of 100 angry extremists is tainting many Australians’ opinion of the broader Muslim community.

        Those football dads behaved disgracefully- but I see no Football Fathers hate pages popping up. Nobody is calling for them to be deported. Nobody is petitioning for football to be outlawed.

        The racists among us often aren’t bright enough to realise that not all Muslims are from the Middle East and that a pack of angry men in Sydney do not represent all Australian Muslim people. What is happening overseas in Egypt, Syria, Libya etc. is scary and worrying- but their situations are hugely different to the dynamics of our society here. Allowing yesterday to flame racist/discriminatory attitudes across our broader community is of no benefit to any Australian.

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    • Anonymous

      Yeah, I felt quite depressed after reading the first few pages of the Sunday Mail this week. I have two little kids and worry about the kind of world they are growing to grow up in.
      In terms of severity though I think the two incidents are worlds apart. Beheading people?

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  32. Bradley

    Pretty darn disgraceful behaviour !

    Their parents must be proud.

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  33. Suki

    So were the people holding the signs ,calling for beheadings and letting us know we are going to hell ,charged? If not, why not? Surely that’s racial discrimination. Maybe we need to make it clear we don’t like our religion or way of life vilified either.

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  34. BrissyGirl

    I notice there were no protests organised by the Australian Muslim community, peaceful or otherwise, when the video of that 22 yr old woman being executed for adultery was released. Or when some parents were charged with mutilating their daughters’ genitals. But an offensive video about a man who died hundreds of years ago gets the mob moving. Can’t say much for their priorities.

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  35. MikeyMike

    If people go out of their way to be offended, they will usually be successful; imagine what the protests would have been like if anyone had ACTUALLY SEEN THE FILM ??!!

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    • Bradley

      Oh…this photo must really be making some mother’s heart feel good !

      One for the family album or pride of place on the mantlepiece…to be surrounded by a silver frame.

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      • JIll

        What about this photo that was taken at a proGaza rally in Melbourne 2009?

        Quite similar is it not?? the mother w as not pulled in for questioning.

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  36. kateb

    As my 87 year old father stated ”send them back to where they came from” I pointed out that there are extremist in all religions, eg the KKK.

    What we need is the Muslim leaders condemning the action of these small minority of violent protestors.
    I haven’t heard it yet!!!!!

    and anyone that attacks a policeperson in the carrying out of their duties should be charged a BIG sentence

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    • Anonymous

      Not sure what you have been watching kateb, but I have seen multiple news articles showing plenty of Muslim leaders speaking out and condemning the actions of a few yesterday and also calling for calm. I even saw a few in the middle of the protest yesterday trying to calm them down and telling them that they were doing the wrong thing.
      By all means be appalled by the actions of the ones who did the wrong thing, but please don’t make out that other muslims have not spoken out against it.

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  37. GK

    This war with radical Islamists, will never be over. There can be no solution until they accept the Western way of life, as being non threatening to theirs. They will NEVER establish an Islamist state, in this country. Never.

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    • Ananna

      The radical Muslims who live here and want to change/ not accept our way of life should go back to where they come from. If they don’t like our customs, they should leave!

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      • Jem

        Out of curiosity – what is “our way of life” that everyone should accept?

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        • Lara

          I can’t speak for the other commentator but I assume our way of life as a largely secular society that endorses free speech?

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        • Ananna

          Yes that is a bit vague isn’t it? Hmm I would personally define that as maybe what we wear (women wearing short tight clothes, bikinis etc), also how a lot of aussies aren’t religious. Thats what first comes to mind anyway

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        • Anon

          try to live in peace.

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        • Anonymous

          Ask them about gay marriage and bikinis and you might have a clearer view of the lifestyle you have been fortunate enough to have.

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  38. centreforward

    I thought it was terrible seeing pictures of children holding up those signs- that’s not what the parents should be teaching them!!
    It’s the Muslim extremists, the minority group that are causing all the problems in the world and portraying the peaceful religion of Islam in a bad way.
    I think what made the protest violent is that a few angry idiots hyped everyone up, who caught on, like mass hysteria.

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  39. Anonymous

    I do feel for the disenfranchised but violence is never an answer

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  40. Punkernickle

    Great article!

    I’ve always wondered what it must feel like to be a Muslim who has to deal with negative perceptions based on the actions of a few extremists in the name of their religion.

    I don’t like other people speaking on my behalf, I can’t imagine what it’s like to have your beliefs and way of life misrepresented like this.

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    • Jay

      Thanks Punkernickle. As an Australian born muslim I constantly feel the need to apologise and explain that the loud voices of a few extreme people who shout awful messages of hate are not representative of my religion or the majority of muslims! And it saddens me that those are the only voices that are often given a chance to be heard in the media.
      And perhaps the saddest of all is that whilst the “B-grade movie” in question is undoubtedly offensive to muslims, such violent reactions only give power to the makers of it and help propagate that negative view of Islam.

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    • Renae

      It is probably similar (but worse) than being a Christian who gets judged by the behaviour of groups like the ACL, or even worse, the Westboro crazies.

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  41. Why

    I can’t help but feel angry and sad about this situation.
    It wouldn’t matter what was being protested about, there are a few fundamental wrongs in this scenario.

    1. A swift violent reaction to a small video at a broad culprit e.g. America
    2. Disrespect and violence to police who are attempting to contain a crowd in a major shopping area.

    People are making stupid films, documentaries and videos every day that insult each other’s religious beliefs. Why not choose to be bigger in the scenario and do something good so you disprove the stereotypes that are being directed at you?

    If

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    • Anonymous

      And US diplomats murdered.

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  42. G.J.

    I will never understand why parents subject their young kids to protests. Peacefully intended or not, a politically charged protest is not a safe place. If adults want to take that risk for a cause that is dear to them, then fine, but who are these people who take their little ones along?

    As far as giving children signs with murderous slogans to hold goes, I’m not even going to try and comment on that because my language would be too nasty.

    What a horrible day.

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    • marywardy

      I’m aware that this is a slightly different kettle of fish, but my parents took me along to the Reconciliation Walk across the Harbour Bridge when I was in primary school, and I turned out okay.

      I guess the parents yesterday weren’t aware as to how violent it was going to become; the protest began with peaceful prayer, after all.

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      • G.J.

        Fair enough, but as you say, the Reconciliation Walk was a very different deal. I don’t remember people calling for beheading’s at that one.

        They weren’t aware this protest would turn violent? Plausible, but personally, I think they should have realised it was a distinct possibility.

        Edited to add: I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt though. I do respect their decision to leave the protests when the violence occurred.

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      • susan

        Yet they went with signs calling for beheadings? you would call that peaceful?

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  43. Sophie

    to all the commentors who have questioned why people would protest in Sydney over a film made in the US- the film was released on a global forum, the internet. Why would people outside of the US not be entitled to demonstrate against something that outrages them? People protest in Sydney against all kinds of international events/laws/situations.

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    • mumofthree

      I raised this question but not to ask why in Sydney so much as why raise the profile of the movie at all??

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      • sophie

        If someone harrasses you at work, what do you do? Do you raise a complaint? Resign? Do nothing so as not to give them the satisfaction of reacting? It’s easy to say ‘be the bigger person’ But people keep doing things like this that bait and provoke people to whom religion is of deep importance.
        Sure, everyone can choose how to react and ofcourse some reactions are beyond excessive, but people don’t just stand by when extreme American conservatives make appalling statements about gay people, rape and abortion. People speak out in the forums and platforms available to them. I sometimes think we assume everyone’s power and visibility is the same in our country, but it’s not. And I guess some people feel they have less means for their voices to be heard.
        It’s a fairly common conception in Australia that all Muslim women who wear a head coverring garment are oppressed and treated badly. This is despite many such women having spoken to the contrary. I’m pretty sure this is an example of the white Australian voice being the loudest and most heard in our country.

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        • mumofthree

          If someone harasses me at work I have legal recourse as it is against the law to harass others in the work place. It is not illegal, in western democracies, to make blasphemous movies, no matter how repugnant the content may be. This is the core point I am making. A stupid person in another country made a dumb movie. The response in Sydney (and other parts of the world) has done nothing other than raise the profile of the movie and reaffirm the prejudice of many about Muslims being extremists who have no respect for freedom of religion and speech.
          You have a right to choose your religion, but in our country people have a right to say that your religion, or any religion, is nonsense. That is legal here. Harassing people at work is not.

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        • Amandarose

          I hardly think any film warrant that response.

          Was it played in an Australian Cinema? We’re Australians watching it and liking it? No.

          So why protest? What is the point except to cause trouble?

          It is really out of context to pick a fight over an amateur movie by some racist idiot with a death wish. Take it up with him no the population in general.

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        • Mum of two cheeky monkeys

          I’m pretty sure the people with “the white Australian voice(s)” would disagree that theirs is the loudest and most heard. That’s why Pauline Hanson happened.

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  44. Emily

    Fantastic writing and such an important message. I hope people listen.

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  45. I don’t know enough about the Muslim culture to be able to adequately comment on what is going on, but considering how touchy of a subject this is, and how heated the media debate is getting, I think you’ve written an awesome well-rounded article.

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    • Anonymous

      If you don’t know about the Muslim culture then I suggest it’s about time you did.

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  46. Jana

    We live in a democracy do we not? So if catholics were to carry on like this at every Youtube video disgracing Jesus the world would be in war. Its completely unexceptable and uncivilised to be reacting with such violence. What a different story if people of other faiths were offended by a video were to behave like this.

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  47. Caz Gibson

    Jamila your appearance on the TODAY show this morning was commendable and heroic and I support you 100%.
    I also support the peaceful protest of your fellow Muslims – they behaved with dignity and are much-needed members of our Australian community.
    Sadly, in all of our respective political, cultural and religious there are fanatics and all I ask is that those fanatics are no longer tolerated or even protected by their fellow community members………that they’re advised and cautioned by their wiser and more peaceful family members, teachers and leaders.
    You had every right to feel safe in your own city.
    I would imagine the police were concerned about violence erupting as it has overseas, but I hated seeing police dogs & horses exposed to attack.

    Our Australian community has worked hard over the years to be welcoming to everyone who seeks to be a part of it………Australia has always been a “safe-house” for those escaping war, poverty, horror, and racism.
    Sadly, that bitter, angry, violent few will always attempt to undermine that cause because their own personal demons are preventing them from seeing the beauty of the people and lifestyle around them.

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  48. Anonymous

    I am curious to know why there has been no reference made in this discussion to the four American diplomats who were murdered? I believe there are now at least 7 small children who no longer have their dads after they went off to work. A tragedy!

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  49. Melbmum

    I blame the government of the 70′s and 80′s that didn’t plan the demographics before allowing such huge numbers of immigrants into Australia. Of course this kind of thing is going to happen because we are losing our identity. Religion was never a big part of who we are and yet here we are dealing with children holding “death to infidels” signs in our streets. If we wanted to bulk our numbers we should have been looking at introducing more western people into our society to reduce the risk that are associated with multiculturalism. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do now but sit back and endure this rubbish in our once wonderful streets.

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    • gw

      I’d LOVE to know how the Aboriginal people feel about your comments! I’d say they would feel like this…

      “I blame the BRITISH government of the 1770′s and 1780′s that didn’t plan the demographics before allowing such huge numbers of BRITISH immigrants into Australia. Of course this kind of thing is going to happen because we are losing our identity. Religion was never a big part of who we are and yet here we are dealing with WHITE PEOPLE DESTROYING OUR CULTURE. If we wanted to bulk our numbers we should have been looking at introducing more INDIGENOUS people into our society to reduce the risk that are associated with multiculturalism. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do now but sit back and endure this rubbish in our once wonderful ENVIRONMENT.”

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      • Anon

        I agree with this, but lets all be real. If the English didn’t colonise Australia another country would have and it would be same shit, different day.

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        • wake up !!

          The Brits colonizing Australia saved the Aborigines from the Japanese invaders in World War 2 who would not have left any Aborigines alive. Australia should be cracking down heavily against violent protests inciting hatred and violence and learn from the migration mistakes European countries made before us before it is too late.

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          • alyssakt

            What a bizarre concept. I don’t know how you could believe that no other explorers would have come to Australia in the mean time – in 170 years!
            The Japanese may not have come here at all in World War II, depending on who was here. i.e. if it wasn’t a Commonwealth country (under Britain) and was Dutch or Spanish or Chinese instead, the situation would already have been very different.
            Let alone believing that the Japanese would have eradicated the Aboriginal Peoples – the Brits did a good enough job of that, without any help from WW2 invaders!

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      • Lara

        Religion is a huge part of Indigenous culture…

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    • Emily

      We don’t have to be tolerant of what happened today, but we certainly cannot be ignorant enough to think that the behaviour represents an entire group of people who are for the most part (like all groups of people), fantastic.

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    • Punkernickle

      Losing our identity?

      Multiculturalism, tolerance, acceptance IS our identity.

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    • Fi

      Hey Mamamia, this is why you need downvotes or thumbs downs. I have no words because I don’t even know where to start with this comment, but I want to let people know that someone else objects to it.

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  50. mumofthree

    I wonder what the point of the protest really was? The film in question was not made here, to my knowledge it was a US made movie. And by marching/protesting these people have bought more attention to the clip, increasing it’s media profile, and subsequently ensuring many more people will now view it. The behaviour of those in attendance, the chants, the signs was all very predictable when we look at past protests, so how could organisers assume anything other than what happened would occur. This whole situation seems incredibly ill thought out. If senior members of the Sydney Muslim community had been less reactive they would have encouraged Muslims who were offended to discuss their feelings within the confines of their homes , community and holy places. Not marched in the street thereby promoting a silly movie made by some red neck American, who was irrlelevant to most of us until innocent people starting being murdered by religious fanatics.

    If Muslim community leaders want to find ways to create better understanding amongst non Muslims here in Australia I think they need to be more mindtful about how they approach these issues. I think the essence of this article is a really good one, but some culpability for a bad decision need to be acknowledged by organisers.

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