UPDATE:
FRIDAY: Kevin Rudd has announced he will contest the leadership on Monday at 10am and given a commitment that he will leave the issue for good if he should lose.
“Today in Australia we face some serious challenges.
All indications are we are heading for the rocks at the next election, leaving the country to ravages of Abbott, the most conservative, most right wing Government in Australian history.
That’s why I am here today … things need to change.
Rightly or wrongly, Julia has lost the trust of the Australian people and starting on Monday I have decided to restore that trust. I have decided to contest ballot on Monday.
I want to finish job the Australian people elected me to do when I was elected by them to become PM.
Many of my colleagues have encouraged me to do just that. I was elected in 2007 to govern for all Australians and that is what we did. The record is a good record.
I’ve spoken up for democracy everywhere in the world, but it’s most important we have one at home, in my party. Australia’s are sick and tired of outside forces calling the shots. Our greatest gift of democracy and to democracy is the secret ballot. And we should have that on Monday. We should have freedom of intimidation from factions. Their pre-selections should not be threatened by how they vote.
No one should live in fear. I call for a secret ballot. A truly, secret ballot. I would call on the PM to ensure that candidates, and perhaps their might be more, have the opportunity to speak and address the party before the ballot is taken so people can make an informed choice.
Let me tell you about one of number of things I got wrong. We removed the right of the party to elect the cabinet. I think I made the wrong call. If elected as PM, I will return that power to the party!
We want the power of the factions to be transferred to each and every individual member of the parliamentary party. That’s the Australian way. I’m not prepared to stand idly by … if we don’t change, the Labor Party is going to end up in opposition.
We will all end up on the Opposition backbench. That’s the cold, stark reality for everybody.
Mr Abbott is a man who has proved he has neither temperament, the vision of the experience to lead.
He has both feet planted firmly in the past.
His view on climate change is from the 1960s. His view of the NBN from the 1990s.
Then there is his attitude on women which goes back to 1950s.
He’s not, as they say in The Castle, an ideas man. He is philosophically opposed to using Govt to build a nation, his vision is just plain extreme.
Beating Mr Abbott is achievable.
I have never met a more negative man in Australian politics than Mr Abbott. This is the single, most negative force in Australian politics that we have ever seen. The importance of beating him is paramount. So much of what we have achieved is at risk, and what we will achieve in the future is at risk.
A Labor Party with Labor values doesn’t need a Greens party to tell it how to protect the environment.
If I should lose I would go to the back bench and I would not challenge Julia a second time. I would continue to work for my community in Griffith.”
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THURSDAY: Prime Minister Julia Gillard has delivered her first address following Rudd’s resignation. She called a double-or-nothing gamble for herself and Rudd. If either should lose, she says, they should revoke any future claim to the leadership.
She then took the remarkable step of ‘absolving’ any and all journalists from their commitment to confidence and asked them to speak up if any of them had ever heard her speak ill of Kevin Rudd or be disloyal behind his back during the time she was PM.
Here is some of what she had to say:
“I have decided that at 10am Monday morning a ballot for the Labor leadership will be conducted.
I have formed this view that we need a ballot in order to settle this question once and for all. More importantly, it is in the interests of the Australian nation.
For far too long we have seen squabbling which has obscured Government achievements and what we are doing to build a stronger and fairer nation.
This has moved to a distraction and that’s not good enough. Australians are rightly sick of this and want it brought to an end.
Only Labor can provide the leadership we need, and Labor can only do that if we proceed with unity.
I will renominate for the Labor leadership and expect to receive the support of my colleagues.
If, against my expectation, I do not receive that support I will go to the backbench and renounce any further claim to the Labor leadership.
And I would ask the same of Kevin Rudd. If he loses that ballot he should commit and renounce any further claims to the leadership and act in the interests of the ALP.
Under my leadership I believe we have been securing the big reforms. We have so much more work to do
I note Kevin Rudd has consistently referred to the need to defeat Tony Abbott. Well let me make this clear. I believe I can lead the ALP to that victory provided we get on with the job.
Government is about more than just electioneering. It’s about making each and every day count and having the discipline and the effort necessary to get the job done.
My focus is on the future, not on the past but let me say some things about 2010. Kevin Rudd’s Government entered a period of paralysis. In my view Kevin Rudd is an excellent campaigner, indeed a remarkable campaigner. But Government requires different skills. Consistency, purpose, method, consultation. It requires you to lead a big team and lead it well. Kevin Rudd failed to do that.
That’s what motivated me in 2010. Out of respect for Kevin Rudd at that time, I did not canvas every detail. I used the terminology the ‘Government had lost its way’.
There has been a long-running destabilisation campaign here to get to this point. I don’t seek to dwell on that.
It is now absolutely evident Rudd is returning to Australia to ask me for a leadership ballot. If I can make one political comment, I don’t believe it is fair to Anna Bligh for this to drift on day after day with no resolution in sight.”
Kevin Rudd delivered his second press conference before the Prime Minister delivered her first, after 9am AEDT. He said he had yet to make up his mind about challenging for the leadership of the Labor Party, but did not hold back.
“I am very pleased and encouraged by positve support and wishes from many to contest the leadership.
They regard me as the best prospect to lead the ALP to the next election, to save the ALP at those elections and save country from ravages of an Abbott Government.
Frankly I have been shocked and disappointed by the tone and content of the intensely personal attacks lodged against me. Whatever our differences in politics I do not believe that these sorts of vicious personal attacks have a place in political life. We all have a place to preserve the fabric of decency.
Therefore I have been shocked, disappointed. I would say to you and urge my own supporters not to retaliate or engage in this vicious sort of attack.
In Australia today people are sick and tired of the politics of division and sick and tired overall. As we know, Mr Abbott is the national master of that.
Therefore it is important that we begin to cultivate and develop a new sense of unity.
Bottom line is, this question of the future of the leadership of our party and country is not about personality. It’s about trust. It’s also about policy and vision. I’m proud of the fact, that when you look closely at what I have achieved, the achievements are formidable.”
Mr Rudd then went on to list his major policy achievements and what he would focus on if he ever led the party in the future, including education, manufacturing and small businesses. He then delivered a final uppercut to the PM:
“I do not believe – I do not believe – PM Gillard can lead the ALP to success in the next election. And as they say in the classics folks, I gotta zip,” he said before leaving to catch a flight back to Australia.
Here’s how the story played out to begin with yesterday:
Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd has just resigned after weeks of intense leadership speculation in the Federal Australian Labor Party. He resigned from a press conference in Washington and said he would ‘never be part of a stealth attack‘ on a sitting Prime Minister and described the current leadership saga as ‘nothing more than a soap opera’.
Here is a full transcript of his speech:
While I am sad to leave this office I am sadder still it has come to this. The last time I resigned in a position of public office was when I was Prime Minister of Australia. Regrettably there have been some similar factors at play today.
It is time for some plain speaking on this. The truth is I can only serve as Foreign Minister if I have the confidence of Prime Minister Gillard and her senior ministers. In recent days Minister Crean and a number of other faceless men have publicly attacked my integrity and therefore my fitness to serve as a minister of government.
When challenged today on these attacks Prime Minister Gillard chose not to repudiate them. I can only reluctantly conclude that she therefore shares these views.
The simple truth is that I cannot continue to serve as Foreign Minister if I do not have Prime Minister Gillard’s support. I therefore believe the only honorable thing, and therefore the only honorable course of action, is for me to resign.
And I do so with a genuinely heavy heart and after much personal reflection.
There are other factors, too, that I had to take into consideration today.
The truth is, the Australian people regard this whole affair as little better than a soap opera – and they are right. And under current circumstances, I won’t be part of it.
It is also, I believe, a distraction from the real business of Government. I also believe it’s affected the business community. I agree with recent statements made by peak bodies to this effect.
It is important that business confidence is maintained in Australia. The economy and jobs are core to what any responsible Government is about.
I also believe that this ongoing saga is bad for my good friend, Anna Bligh, as she fights the fight of her life in Queensland. She’s a great premier, she’s a good friend and I believe the good people of Queensland deserve some space over the coming month as they make up their mind on a very important decision over the future of Queensland, my home state, the state I’m very proud to be from.
The truth is, I also feel very uncomfortable doing this from Washington and not in Australia, but I don’t feel as if I have a choice given the responsibilities I have before me over the days ahead here in Washington, in London on the future of Somalia and piracy in the Indian Ocean, and in Tunis on the future of Syria. These are important challenges for the world where a responsible Australian voice needs to be heard. A voice which I have sought to inject in my period as Foreign Minister on these core challenges.
Under no circumstances do I want Australia’s international reputation brought into disrepute because of this ongoing saga.
Therefore, Ambassador Beazley will discharge my functions here on my behalf in Washington tomorrow and the Permanent Secretary of my Department, Dennis Richardson, will represent me in London and Tunis. I will return home to Brisbane tomorrow, arriving back there on Friday morning.
Over the days ahead, i will be consulting openly and honestly with my family, with my community and with my parliamentary colleagues, taking their counsel on what I should do next and what my next step should be. I will then make a full statement to the Australian people on my future before parliament resumes next Monday.
I deeply believe that if the ALP, a party of which i have been a proud member for more than 30 years, is to have the best future for our nature then it must change fundamentally its culture, and to end the power of faceless men. Australia must be governed by the people. Not by the factions. But I can promise you this – there is no way – no way – that I will ever be part of a stealth attack on a sitting PM who was elected by the people. We all know that what happened then was wrong, and it must never happen again.
He ended the press conference without taking questions, saying there was “much, much to do”.
Ms Rein also told the Brisbane Times: “I’m immensely proud of Kevin and his contribution as Foreign Minister and I’m really looking forward to giving him a hug when he gets home.”
Abbott’s response:
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said: “Kevin Rudd has confirmed two things – that the faceless men are running the Labor Party and that the instability at the top of this government is damaging our country.”
“Kevin Rudd’s statement tonight confirms that this government is unworthy to continue in office.”
Julia Gillard’s response:
The Prime Minister hasn’t fronted the media but released a short statement saying she was disappointed Kevin Rudd never raised his resignation with her personally – his resignation letter arrived at her office at the precise moment he was live on television – and would address the media in full in the morning. It is believed Ms Gillard will announce a leadership ballot tomorrow, which would be held on Monday.
Her statement in full:
Today Kevin Rudd has tendered his resignation as Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Mr Rudd was a strong and effective advocate for Australia’s interests overseas.
During his period of service as Foreign Minister there were many achievements. He strongly pursued Australia’s interests in the world.
I am disappointed that the concerns Mr Rudd has publicly expressed this evening were never personally raised with me, nor did he contact me to discuss his resignation prior to his decision.
I plan to hold a press conference tomorrow to make a further statement.
Deputy Prime Minister and Treasurer Wayne Swan launches extraordinary attack on Rudd:
Prime Minister Gillard and I and the overwhelming majority of our colleagues have been applying our Labor values to the policy challenges in front of us and we’re succeeding despite tremendous political obstacles. For the sake of the movement, the Government and the Australians which it represents, we have refrained from criticism to date.
However for too long, Kevin Rudd has been putting his own self-interest ahead of the interests of the broader Labor movement and the country as a whole, and that needs to stop. The Party has given Kevin Rudd all the opportunities in the world and he wasted them with his dysfunctional decision making and his deeply demeaning attitude towards other people including our caucus colleagues. He sought to tear down the 2010 campaign, deliberately risking an Abbott Prime Ministership, and now he undermines the Government at every turn.
He was the Party’s biggest beneficiary then its biggest critic; but never a loyal or selfless example of its values and objectives.For the interests of the movement and of working people, there is too much at stake in our economy and in the political debate for the interests of the movement and working people to be damaged by somebody who does not hold any Labor values.
Julia has the overwhelming support of our colleagues. She is tough, determined, forward-looking, and has a good Labor heart. She has a consultative, respectful relationship with caucus while Kevin Rudd demeaned them. She’s cleaned up a lot of the mess he left her and has established a good, Labor agenda. She’s delivering major reforms, and getting things done that her predecessor could not.
Colleagues are sick of Kevin Rudd driving the vote down by sabotaging policy announcements and undermining our substantial economic successes. The Labor Party is not about a person, it’s about a purpose. That’s something Prime Minister Gillard has always known in her heart but something Kevin Rudd has never understood.
In the meantime…
Craig Emerson, presently the Trade Minister, will act as Australia’s Foreign Minister and take on the responsibilities immediately.

Kevin Rudd wins office during the November 2007 Federal election.









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HI there
we didnot vote for Julia to become PM in 2007
she has no right to be PM
people elect PM not party
we the people of australia voted labor becuase we wanted Kevin rudd to be pM not Julia Idiots don’t u understand
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RE: ‘Kevin Rudd’s NINE HOURS of . . . ?’
What qualities / or lack thereof are showcased in the account (below )
. . . NINE hours of Mr Rudd’s time in Washington?
How appropriate were his behaviours in response to:-
i) criticism (egregious as it was)
ii) lack of Prime Ministerial support
Did he make an appropriate ministerial response? Subjected to vile criticism and not supported by his Prime Minister, Mr Rudd’s response was to firstly ditch his current job and related serious commitments and position himself for the PM’s job.
Was this a mature response to the situation? Was it:-
rational / irrational?
appropriate / inappropriate?
responsible / irresponsible?
As a response to criticism and lack of support, does not Mr Rudd’s behaviour
showcase his :-
Wilfulness?
Egocentricism?
Chaotic decision making?
Impropriety?
Impetuosity?
Lack of discipline?
Emotional immaturity?
Poor anger management?
Is his behaviour perhaps an indication that Mr Rudd, his anger
out of control, does indeed become ‘unhinged’ when stressed?
And that chaotic decision making is one outcome . . .
Kevin Rudd’s NINE HOURS of . . . ?
Kevin Rudd arrived in Washington last Tuesday, 21st February at 4pm US time.
He had a 90 minute dinner meeting at the Pentagon with Kim Beazley, (Australia’s Ambassador to the USA) Leon Panetta (US Secretary of Defence) and key staff from the US defence department.
He returned to his hotel room at 9pm.
A few hours later and without prior notice/discussion, he resigned as Minister of Foreign Affairs in a speech made from his hotel at 1.20am Wednesday.
He announced that his duties in Washington would be performed by Mr. Beazley
and
those in London would be performed by the permanent Secretary of his department.
Some meetings appear to have been cancelled.
(Note: In September 2009, Kevin Rudd appointed Beazley as Australia’s Ambassador to the USA. The appointment began in February 2010.)
It would be interesting to know if Mr Rudd had talked about his intentions prior to making his resignation speech. At what point did Kim Beazley learn that he’d be standing in for Kevin in Washington the very next day?
Indeed, how much of everything did Mr. Rudd tell Kim Beazley?
Serious commitments ditched by Mr Rudd due to his resignation were :-
a) talks in London on the future of Somalia !!! and piracy !!! in the Indian Ocean
b) talks in Tunis regarding the future of Syria !!!
In a nutshell:-
Kevin Rudd’s response to Wayne Swan et alii was to
a) ditch his significant responsibilities,
b) resign without notice
c) position himself for a campaign / challenge of Julia Gillard’s Prime Ministership.
Do we not have here evidence of serious mental/emotional deficits which support the credibility of Julia Gillard, Nicola Roxon and others.
In a word (or two) :- ‘Loose Cannon’
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It’s so very easy to comment- to run people down, or to say something nice about someone.
Yet what do the people of Australia actually know about how our Government works.
It might just be interesting for the media to ask the public to name the bills that have been passed recently- and why- and what is coming up that the Goverment is working on.
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Let’s not forget one solid fact. Kevin Rudd wasn’t voted in. John Howard was voted out!
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They are each appalling. One is a vain liar; the other a vain egomaniac. It’s a crying shame that Oz has these people amongst our leaders, Whether Labor or Liberal, we MUST be able to do better.
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I truly had forgotten how annoying and patronising I found Kevin udd, and in the last few days it’s been flooding back. Runs in the family too, it seems. I am no huge fan of Tony Abbott’s, but for Kevin Rudd to declare Abbott’s “temperament and intelligence unfit for the role of Prime Minister” is a bit rich! I am no big fan of Abbott’s but the fact is, he is a Rhodes scholar and his temperament is far more suited to the PM role than Rudd’s patently was. Who is the one that has elected to be a political suicide bomber? Oh, that’d be Rudd!
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Honestly, T Abb just impressed me X1000 in his #asktony on Twitter this afternoon.
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Julia offers assured defeat at the hands of Tony.
Kevin offers a chance of victory.
Aussies love sport and long for better talent in this political game.
Bring back Kevin to stop Tony Abbott with his simplistic, primitive, anti-progressive and embarassing claptrap.
Show your support with the “Release Kevin” petition.
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/releasekevin
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I vote for a party. I vote for my local member and the values that the member and the party stand for. Not for who should be in the top job of that party.
I hope on Monday that Julia continues to be our Prime MInister, and that the labour government stops the infighting, and starts to lead for the people and the country that voted for them.
In no other industry in Australia would a former leader be sacked from the top role, still given a plum position, then fight to be leader again. The public would not allow it in industy! It is embarrassing for Australia, and embarrassing that Kevin Rudd is even considering this.
Labour – please lead our country!
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Guest – am sorry to say that there are too many idiots in Labor for me. Gough was bright and committed, but surrounded by dopes; Hawke/Keating each made a worthwhile contribution for a time, but were egotists which was their downfall. The Libs are by no means perfect, but their overall government of the country is, I think, much better for our kids and grandkids. Am very happy with alternating Liberal/Labor governments (helps keep them both honest) but I reckon that a 3 year cap on all Labor governments is a good idea (although utterly impractical, I admit). Perhaps the answer is to get more sensible people involved in the major parties (ie excluding the dopey Greens) at grass roots level.. I am a great believer in the innate common sense of the average Ozzie.
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Ms Rein, yes, we know Kevin has worked hard and is very committed, but is this for his own popularity and ambition or for the good of Australia. Stay true to himself in what context? Narcissistic or benevolent?
I did vote for him in 2007, but will not vote for him again.
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GET RID OF RUDD FOR GOOD. He is nothing but a megalomaniac and we do not need him. Labour supports wake up to yourselves!
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bring back kevin he is the only one that can do it
julia is not the person to lead this country she has not got the cutch or stamena she is the floormat of bob brown he runs this country .
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I find the remarks made about KRudd by senior cabinet members remarkable. Whatever your politics, this kind of behaviour is like something out of high school, and does nothing to improve their standing as our government. I have lost respect for Swan and Conroy after hearing them talk about KRudd in that way. Even if he did behave badly its unprofessional and childish to wash one’s dirty linen in public in this way. Shame on you.
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It’s the worst feeling in the world, when the population can’t see they support a megalomaniac who came close 2 a nervous breakdown for. Anyone could see (if they’d only look) that when Julia supposedly knifed KRudd in the back, he was totally out of control. She/they had no choice and for his sake she held her counsel about it. I hope the full truth comes out. It’s all so disappointing because I do think that if KRUDD can keep it together the Labor party could beat Abbott. I just don’t trust him to be able to hold it together with the minority they have and the ill feeling towards him those in the know.
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I love how Labor voters keep putting Turnbull’s name forward. I wonder if we’d be so keen if he was one of us?
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Regarding Tony Abbott as a non event for Prime Minister, it’s always difficult in Opposition to seem a leading figure. Take Barry O’Farrell, I always considered him a ‘wishy-washy’ Opposition Leader with not much to speak of if he came to office but I think Barry has really shone so far, with far more ‘guts’ than I would have given him credit for. Hopefully Tony will be the same.
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Why is no-one commenting on the deliberate attempt to be ‘popular by association ‘ in the use of Anna Bligh’s name. Keep that honest respectable and honourable womans name out of all this mud please! this farce between Rudd and Gillard and Abbott has nothing to do with her!
Yes I am an avid Anna Bligh fan – could she run for prime minister? I know I’d vote for her!
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Bahaha if someone wanted to be popular they wouldn’t be using her name!
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I am team Abbott, however I am amused watching the throws of yesterday and today’s happenings however whilst this is occurring Australia as a country is just plodding along with no one really caring about what’s happening. I would rather Rudd stuff up our country than Gillard. I do not trust her and she is all about herself not the countrys interests. Looking forward to seeing an outcome!
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Time for the Governor General…..
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“The Party has lost it’s way” is one nauseating line. What she really meant was Kevin was trying to pass legislation- the emissions trading- an election promise and the mining tax which was recommended in a tax review by an experienced money guy. The legislation was unpopular so instead of supporting him so he could get on with the job and prove the benefits they quaked due to fear of unpopularity fueled by greedy mining companies.
Yes the party lost it’s way playing into a popularity contest instead of doing the right thing.
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I don’t actually believe Kevin is as bad as they say. I reckon he wanted to make changes improve things, make strong decisions and not play the factional games that were the norm.
people don’t like. Hange especially if they lose power and I recko. A few noses are out of joint.
Don’t think it is a good idea swapping leaders all the time- I never thought Kevin did anything wrong in the first place- the mining tax was a great idea – get money from the ridiculously rich for using Australian resources and use it to help our nation- oh more money for hospitals and schools and less tax o the poorer people.Sounds fair to me. He had the guts to do the right thing – not the things that will make him popular with Alan Jones and his followers.
John Howard got things done – many unpopular like the GST and I wish Kevin was given the same support before he got kicked out.
I would like politicians to get on with it and stop kicking everyone out. Kevin would have been better of leaving it until an election was due.
I think the media has to bigger role is manipulating the public and it is a shame foe out country it is run as a popularity competition not a country I. Need of leadership
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I don’t think it matters one iota who prevails in this farcical situation.
This government is not fit to run this country and with a bit of luck – and a speedy election – we can be rid of them altogether.
I am no fan of Rudd, but you have to ask yourself, did his “dysfunctional decision making and deeply demeaning attitude towards other people” just pop up on the day he became PM?
Wasn’t he always like that?
And if so, why did Gillard & Swan etc support him so wholeheartedly?
Was it just because they believed he could win the election and therefore elevate their own positions.
The way they speak about each other now, it seems the only reasonable conclusion and therefore in my book their credibility and integrity is zero.
I suppose the only upside, is while they bicker and stab each other in the back, they are too busy to conspire with the independents – who betrayed their electorates to further their own careers, but are the ones keeping this useless government in power – on further ‘policies’ destined to completely destroy the financial stability and prosperity we enjoyed as a result of Howard’s fiscal management.
Frankly the whole mess is a complete disgrace.
We must be the laughing stock of the world….
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no ondines mum ; australia is actually the envy of most countries
if it wasn’t why do over 200,000 NOM (Net Overseas Migrants) want to come here every year?
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Of course people want to come here – because of years and years of the Howard Government’s financial policies we WERE the envy of the world in terms of our economy and standard of living.
How long can that last with economic disaster after disaster, budget blowout after blowout and relentless over the top spending without monitoring the outcomes – dare I mention, Batts / Education “Revolution” / Solar Panels / the NBN… And on and on and on… Big spending – no benefits and/or disasters.
If I ran my business – and my clients’ budgets – like this government, I would be out of business. Full stop. And so should they be.
It’s a joke.
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The sad thing in all of this is that the people of Australia are the ones suffering because of the hubris of the people supposed to be leaders & looking out for us. Is it any wonder we have so little faith in our political parties. This is democracy at its worst,
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I’m still trying to work out how people are suffering (other than being bored)…I don’t know about you, but my life hasn’t changed at all…I still get up, go to work, go home…I still have food and shelter…
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I haven’t read anywhere that people feel that they are suffering due to this power struggle – but we do have the right to expect a fair, strong and stable government. Instead we clearly have an incompetent group of self interested individuals. Even when/if this leadership issue is resolved on Monday, how on earth are they going to work together supportively after so much bile has been flung around??
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This whole affair is a national disgrace and every Australian, regardless of political preference should be outraged.
If the Board of Directors of a large Australian company behaved this way, investors and shareholders would be irate and looking for immediate rectification and/or another company to invest in.
In this context all Australians should remember that probably the biggest “investment” they make each month is to the Australian government through taxes paid. We should be demanding and getting much better.
If the Labor Party has any chance of survival, any self-respecting Labor member of Parliament should withdraw their support for both Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd and elect a new leader. Both the current contenders are un-electable. Let them find another playground to fight in and leave the Australian Parliament alone!!!
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Something else to think about:
Gillard didn’t announce that she was going to challenge Rudd until people in her party basically came up to her and said “we have the numbers and we want you to challenge Rudd.”
Rudd on the other hand doesn’t have the numbers and is trying to persuade people to support him…this is a much more difficult position to be in and is unlikely to succeed…
Some people are also likening this to Keating’s two staged leadership to Hawke, but I think the comparisons are superficial…the move from Hawke to Keating was a transitional shift from one leader to another…and in the end it happened fairly painlessly…this battle between Rudd and Gillard is much more raw and personality based. If Rudd can’t find the numbers this time and goes back to the back-bench, I don’t think he’ll ever find the numbers…
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John James, Julia is only the PM because her party & the three stooges put her there. They didn’t put here there because they thought she had great leadership qualities, they put here there because they knew the labor party was going down in flames, & they needed a ambitious & blindingly loyal party member to take the fall. Who better than Julia Gillard is an ambitiious dyed in the wool Laborite who would rather cut of her own foot than say no to her party, to be their scapegoat.
When the party ousted Rudd & placed Gillard as PM, she had the perfect opportunity to clean house, get rid of the deadwood, the union bosses pulling the strings & inject new life into the party & effect real change for country. If she’d done this she could have scraped in with a majority & wouldn’t have had to kowtow to the Greens & three stooges every step of the way, hence the mess we’re in now. So of course Julia has the majority of votes for the leadership challenge. They’re throwing their support behind her for leadership because they know Labor will be decimated at the next election & seriously who wants to be in a job where they have no real power because everything has to be run past the Greens & two remaining independents & theyre going to lose that job in a year or possibility a few months if a no confidence motion is passed. The PMs job is in effect a poisoned chalice. Whilst I’m no fan of Gillard, had it not been for her naked ambition & blinding loyalty to the party to the point of bloody mindedness, she could have made a decent PM. But this was her undoing & now she’s watching her career she’s worked bloody hard for go up in flames. Because of this unless something truly radical happens Labor has practically handed Abbott the PMs job on a silver platter with very little effort on Abbotts part!
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groover
unfortunately the facts show that labour was winning the 2010 election
easily until rudd attempted to sabotage the campaign
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JohnJames – thankyou for once again being the voice of reason. Or maybe we just seem to think the same? Agree fully.
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Kevin Rudd scares me. I think he is a maniac. His speech this morning telling us of all his wonderful achievements is the reason his party got rid of him in the first place. He is a narcissist who is only interested in stroking his own ego.
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Absolutely spot on Bec. How much sleep has he had since resigning. All he’s been doing suggests NONE! He’s manic and so driven by his ego it sickens me that people can’t see it. More than 10 years ago I can remember hearing bad things about him, and lack of popularity amongst his colleagues..
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I think Kevin Rudd should have left it the way it was, no challenge, serve as foreign minister and disappear. I’ve only had one bad boss in my working life (thank goodness!) but she made my life a living hell (considering I spent so much of my time at the office).
I think the Labor party did the right thing getting rid of Kevin when they did. It just goes to show that no one – not even the Prime Minister – can treat other people the way he treated his staff and colleagues. There’s been too many reports from former staffers and colleagues (not to mention the video and the airline hostie who copped it) not to believe them. Bullying in the workplace should never happen – no matter the position. If former PMs can manage the role without his theatrics, then surely it can be done, no matter the pressure that comes with the position.
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There would be no greater irony than if this leadership tussle actually becomes the “making” of Gillard…those of us who believe in her have always wanted her to take the gloves off…maybe this spill will make her do this…maybe she’ll finally find her voice…
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yes, JJ, just what I’ve been thinking this morning too.
My respect for her has grown somewhat today and after her press conference.
Not that I’m saying I agree with everything she does/has done, but I see now more clearly, the whys.
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her press conference this morning would suggest that. i only saw a snippet at the doctors but she had a realness to her that i haven’t heard before. she is so well respected amongst her colleagues and staff, there must be a reason for it
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The general public always forget why the Labor party felt the need to get rid of Kevin Rudd in the first place. He was an arse to work for and he hasn’t changed in the time since then. His turnover of staff was outrageous – he drove them so hard that people would fall over themselves to get out of there.
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Please! I find it ridiculous that apparently no-one had worked with him prior to him becoming PM! That no-one knew what he was like, that everyone was totally shocked he was like that. Give. Me. A. Break. He had been in the Labor Party since the early 80s in various roles–and yet he suddenly became a tyrant? Come on. They elected him to the position as party leader–are they saying they did that without knowing what he was like to work for? All this ‘difficult to work with’ shit is just that, shit. Disinformation spread by factions who were pissed off that he wasn’t bowing to them. We’ll likely ever know why they actually got rid of him, but it can’t be for that reason, it makes zero sense, like everything else they do.
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What’s so difficult to believe about KR being difficult to work for? Seems a perfectly plausible reason to me after all the accounts I’ve read and heard. I doubt this is the big conspiracy in the debacle.
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The post is not saying he’s not difficult to work with. He may well be. In fact, you’d have to be a tyrant, really, to deal with the idiocy ingrained in the ALP. The post is saying it’s disingenuous of the ALP to claim they didn’t already know this. They were happy for him to be an asshole, provided he won them the election. And then, when whatever happened, happened, it provided a convenient excuse to get rid of him, but it’s not the reason. I’d love to know what really happened. It wasn’t opinion polls, because he was way more popular than Julia is now, even at his worst.
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But why can that not be the reason? Plain and simple. Why the conspiracy about ‘why’ and what the reason is? Maybe a quick re-read of Animal Farm is in order.
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sally
some people can’t face reality
seems to apply to quite a few australians
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Let’s face it Anon. Kevin Rudd is the most un-Labor Labor leader to ever have led the party. The experience many involved in the Goss government in the 90′s had while he was the premier’s Chief of Staff rang very loud and clear before he was elected to the Labor Leadership. For proof of this, observe how most of the other key federal Labor figures from Queensland – including most especially Wayne Swan – are the first to offer some free character assessments.
The fact is that after 11 years of being stuck in opposition against John Howard, the Labor caucus was so desperate for *anyone* with the slightest bit of popular recognition to lead. Kevin Rudd – the man who’d primmed and preened himself on breakfast TV, and with no union or factional friends and a bad rep from Queensland – was the only one they could turn to.
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spot on jon
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Heh… heh.. heehehe
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Classic!
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PS Great work on the coverage guys, fast and comprehensive! Better than thew news sites.
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Best compliment you could give the team. Our transcription fingers are sore!
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I’m amazed by your swift transcription skills! And here I am dwadling through minutes for a meeting for the past couple of hours…
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Did Kevin really end his press conference with “I gotta zip”? Cringe…
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It’s the way he ends every news conference..and usually as an excuse not to answer questions at the end.
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“Mr Rudd then went on to list his major policy achievements and what he would focus on if he ever led the party in the future, including education, manufacturing and small businesses.”
Is it the Labor Party who are bad at advertising their achievements – or the media who don’t bother with these details (or purposely omit them)
No wonder so many say “the Labor Party’s done nothing!!” so often
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I am so tired of this ridiculous, childish saga. I want a leader that is passionate about improving our country, not passionate about power. Mamamia I know this is a big news issue but I’m so over it – can you please give us a profile about Marie Colvin, the journalist who was killed in Syria yesterday? If we want to talk about passionate, inspiring women I’d rather look to someone like that than Julia.
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All of you seem to be forgetting that no matter who wins this leadership challenge, they will be effectively a lame duck. If Gillard wins, Rudd will possibly quit politics therefore forcing a by-election in the seat of Griffith which in every likeliehood Labor will be decimated, which in turn would bring about a no confidence motion which would force an early election which Labor pretty much have no chance of surviving.
If Rudd wins the leadership challenge, the Greens, Oakeshott and Windsor have clearly indicated that they will not support Rudd which means the catastrophic likeliehood that they will cross the floor & give their support to the Libs which means they will pretty have all the power in the Senate & they will either do one of two things block most of the bills in the Senate therefore where the GG will have no choice but to call a double dissolution, sack Rudd, put Tony Abbott in as caretaker PM & call an early election. Or have the Libs call for a no confidence motion & call an early election & as the Libs would have the majority in the Senate, again the GG would have no choice but to call an election. Before you all say she won’t because Shorten is her son in law, the GG basically has no choice but to call an early election. So I don’t know why people are so scared of Rudd becoming PM again as even if he does he will be a lame duck PM. Rudd may be an arrogant self absorbed egomaniac, but he’s no fool. If he’s smart as everyone he says he is he will quit politics, get a nice cushy highly paid role in the UN & leave this mess to Gillard & co.
I find it highly interesting that people are banging on about what a great job Gillard has done because she has passed all this legislation. Helloooo this is a no brainer, are you all forgetting that she can do this because she is aligned with the Greens who hold the balance of power in the Senate & the majority in the house of representatives. When is everyone going to learn Julia holds no real power & is their puppet. The Greens, Oakeshott & Windsor say jump Julia, & Julia says how high because she is scared that they will cross the floor.
Basically no one person has brought the Labor govt but the Labor govt itself because they’re more interested in serving themselves than the people they’re there to serve. Abbott isn’t any better. Look at the choices we have at the next election. We have no choice it’s down to Rudd/ Gillard or Tony Abbott none which inspires me greatly. It’s as the old saying goes “no matter who you vote in you’re still voting in a politician”.
Love or hate Rudd you’ve gotta hand it to him for well and truly throwing the proverbial spanner in the works. Somewhere Gillard must be sitting there crapping herself whilst watching the slow painful death of her political career.
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Can I “like” this post?
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Katter, Wilkie and Bandt would all support Rudd. All Oakshott and Windsor have said is that all bets are off. Not that they’d support Abbott. Katter said long ago that while he currently supports Abbott, he’d change to Rudd if Rudd were reinstated… so I think the balance of power between the parties would remain similar.
Totally agree with everything you say though. Regardless of who gets in, they’re stuck with a hung parliament where they won’t actually be able to do anything. I would agree that had Rudd not been removed, this would not be the case.
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This whole saga reminds me of a very funny line from Billy Connolly “the mere desire to be a politician should immediately preclude them from being allowed to be one”. Let’s start a Mamamia campaign to get Malcolm Turnbull to challenge for the Liberal leadership. If we can get offensive kids t-shirts pulled from sale, surely we can manage this. Actually, here’s a better idea – let’s get lovely Malcolm to become a Labor candidate and they can vote for him at Monday’s leadership challenge, he can then go on to defeat Tony Abbott at the next election. That would teach the Prime Minister, Krudd and Mr Rabbitt all a lesson!
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As a swinger from way back (lol) I am waiting for Turnbull to make his move,,,I would vote him in. Abbott is a scary mofo and if he gets in we will be in for a crazy and rough ride in my opinion.
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I have just been listening to my local ABC & heard my local member Kate Ellis talking with such anger & quavering in her voice about Kevin Rudd & how it has been his mission to depose Julia. I have never really liked Kate, I’ve found her wooden but I was so impressed with her fury, she sounded like she was trying to contain an urge to really abuse man, GO KATE!!
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It’s an interesting turnaround, as it always appeared that she was one of fresh, young faces Kevin Rudd always liked to have around.
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Why dose this nation not have primaries where the people can vote for the leader of the party. That is direct democracy. What we have at present, is a club by invitation and this is supposed to democracy by the people and for the people? I hope she is disgraced (if that’s even at all more possible) and kicked to curb. She is an international embarrassment.
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This is such a ridiculous joke. It’s almost too stupid to believe.
To any Libs who might be reading this: Make Malcolm Turnbull your leader, and you have a very good chance of winning the next election. Please do it, and you’ll have my vote (and I suspect many other’s as well).
Then stick with him. For the whole term. Work like a team to govern the country.
Recipe for success!
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It really seems so simple, doesn’t it? Why hasn’t anyone else figured it out??
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Because Malcolm doesn’t agree with the party’s position on certain things. He is too ‘socially left’ for the Libs.
One thing the Libs don’t want, is party disunity, and all the crazy righties in the Libs will abandon ship if Malcolm is leader. Mind you, who are the crazy righties going to vote for then, Bob Katter?
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Yeah.. as a leftie, that’s a lot of the reason I like him so much.
Well, it’ll be my vain hope anyway. As things are now with Abbott at the helm, maybe I’ll put in a dummy vote :-/
(just kidding, I would never actually do that)
They are wise to present a united party. Of course. Makes them look so much better than the squabbling ALP.
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They don’t need to change leaders. It makes me sick to admit it but they can (and likely will) win with Tony. Unfortunately Julia and Kevin are making it way to easy for them.
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That is very true. Frikken Labor.
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I know it could be soooo easy with the lovely Malcolm at the helm, I’m a liberal but I loathe Tony Abbott & I know many many others who feel the same. It is so infuriating!!!
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Completely agree. I’d vote my local member (I’m in the seat of Swan and it’s been Liberal since Howard lost) in if Malcolm were leading the party and I’ve never voted for the Libs.
Oh, and for all his faults, Rudd didn’t deserve that bile that Crean was serving up a few days ago. The ALP senior Ministers have been banging on about how he should have spoken to the Prime Minister first or to one of them before resigning…Ummmm one of YOU lot should have taken Crean and the other attention seekers aside and told them to keep schtum and stop publicly attacking Rudd in such a personal way. If you fight with the sword you die by it, how else wads he supposed to respond. Forget sticks and stones, words DO hurt and I felt for Rudd when I saw Simon Crean’s interview. There was a Scottish/Australian Senator on Lateline recently (sorry I don’t recall his name) but he spoke so beautifully. But long story short – Hello to the Libs! Vote Turnbull as your leader and I will vote Liberal.
PS – Go Jess Rudd!
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Why should the Liberal party burden itself with Labor-style leadership tussles?
The fact of the matter is that this renewed blood-letting in Labor demonstrates just how successful Tony Abbott has been at keeping sustained and unwavering pressure on an incompetent government, and may be about to see off a second Prime Minister.
As this saga goes on, it only solidifies his position. I’m sorry, Profiterole, however the Liberals already have a “very good chance of winning.”
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Australian politics has been an absolute farce over the last few years, I never thought I’d say this, but I long for the days of Turnbull and Rudd, or even Howard and Beazely. It wasn’t perfect, but it was better than this. Labor brought this on themselves when they ousted Rudd, who was elected by the people (spare me the carry on about how we elect a party, not a person. The campaign was Kevin ’07, not Labor ’07–they offer a personality for election, we all know it, the people voted for Rudd, only they should have been allowed to remove him). Labor repeatedly demonstrate they care more about power than representing the people. Gillard’s government should never have been allowed to form, she should never have done back-door deals going against election promises. Over the last two years, Australia has been run by a dictator, who forced policy changes she knew went against what the majority of people wanted! It’s time either Labor or the Independents got some integrity and called an election, so the people can decide what WE want. Let get back to sanity and the business of running this country in a democratic fashion.
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Julia, you are doing an amazing job as our Prime Minister. With everything you must be going through I am proud to have you as our leader.
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as if. she is a puppet for the faceless men running the country. for the last two years (and probably many more) this country has show it’s dislike for our government and she has done nothing. absolutley nothing about it. they should never have given her any power.
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she is an embarrassment to our country.
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Why is she an embarrassment?
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Curioser, she is only our PM because she has done deals with the greens and the independents – some since broken. She is protecting a man who will be shown to be a liar, a sleaze bag and an embezzler in order to stay in power. She has promoted a man to the Speakers role who has little to no integrity. Is this enough for me to think she is an embarrassment – or do you want me to bore you with more of her failures – and there are many!
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Oh so eloquently put!!
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Will all those people who have blamed the media for the past few weeks chaos please apologise?? After yesterdays expose by Wayne Swan et al, there’s little doubt that their internal mess is noone’s fault but their own. This shambles has been allowed to go on for far too long. How on earth are we supposed to have any confidence in this rabble? Can we get rid of the lot of them – please?
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Fair enough, I apologize!
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Peter Costello…..please come back.
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Can’t. Can’t go backwards.
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Could we have Tim Costello instead?
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Go Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Congratulations Kev & Jules, the Liberal party never looked so good.
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*maniacal laugh* *rubs hands together in glee*
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I just read that in the same voice as the villain in the Muppets!
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Now we just need the Count from Sesame Street to tally the Caucus votes on Monday!
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Haha!
One – whaa ha haa
Two – whaa ha haa
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hehe, so did I
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So, how was your morning at the glass shop selecting stained glass for the chapel you’ll build in the Lodge? Ping @JohnJames!
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you know what would be really funny?
Kevin declare himself an independent. This will automatically trigger an election because the labor party won’t have enough seats any more.
Kevin can then do a deal with Abbott and get his foreign minister job back and the labor party are back in opposition for another 20 years.
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I like this idea
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IS THAT YOU MR W???????
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Ho hum, well having read various political commentators in the past whose predictions re PM contenders have all ended up wrong I thought I might as well go and dig out the astrological predictions of the astrologer Milton Black. Can’t be any worse than anyone else’s…so in case you’re wondering in a nutshell, Kevin will fail as his Saturn is still dodgy and even worse than it was in 2010, Julia will lead Labor into the next election, Abbott will never be PM as Australia has never had a Scorpio PM and he’s about to run into big trouble, but the Coalition will win and the next PM will most likely be (drum roll) Malcolm Turnbull.
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Phew, thank whoever that we have Astrology to work that all out for us…I couldn’t worked all that out for myself…
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Nothing worse than having a dodgy saturn. Well, now I think about it, having a dodgy uranus might be more uncomfortable.
I bet this amazing ability to predict even extends to predicting that Black Caviar will win her next race. Amazing stuff.
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Hmmm, happy to have Malcolm Turnbull as PM! Hope your right…
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Hey, there’s serious money on Black caviar – don’t put the mockers on …
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If I was Kevin … I’d be sitting back and not contesting Monday. Let them continue on with their personal attacks of desperation. Julia started her stint with grubby tactics and she’ll finish it that way too. I thought Kevin was dignified and honest. Head to the back bench kevin … It worked for Keating it will work for you too. All I can say to gillard supporters is perhaps she’s getting a taste of her own medicine. Personally I’ve loved the response of senator Cameron. If we can’t have Kevin than I’d vote for him.
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Well said Anne. Maybe he should leave the labor party and not guarantee supply, it would set the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons and lead to the ultimate karma tic situation for Gillard. They seem to have forgotten they started this by toppling him in the first place!
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Hmm, I thought he started it by acting like a wayward dysfunctional verbally-abusive one-man band. I love how we forgive and forget when someone is no longer in power. Lol!
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Oh man. The opinions here are so confidently expressed they almost sound like facts. Either there are a significant amount of people who work in federal politics, and who know Kevin and Julia’s thoughts and inner motives (hopefully you’re not their therapists in disguise), or there are several playground meanies who are forgetting that what we see as the general public is only the tip of the iceberg. We don’t know what’s really going on…so please consider letting go of this, we are just adding intrigue and further fuel to the soap opera. Let them do their job while we do ours. Golly I’d hate to be in politics. Did you see the hate replies Tony Abbott got in reply to his last tweet? Leave them all alone.
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would happily leave them alone if I felt confident they were doing their job. Instead they pursue power for power’s sake, with little regard for the rest of us. Feel bad that people feel it fair to send hate tweets to TA – he does not deserve that – however the other 2 are long overdue to be driven out of office.
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