I’m new here. I recently arrived from the UK and I’ve been lucky enough to be surrounded by great people that made my move easy, painless and stress-free. On arriving, while I was VERY comfortable dossing on my mates’ sofa, I couldn’t help but notice that it was something on the coffee table that wasn’t sitting well.
It was DNA. Australia’s best selling magazine for gay men. And, there was Stefan Gatt adorning the front cover.
Now, I had perceptions of what guys would look like in Australia. British beer belly they would not be. And, I admit I hit the gym rather hard in London before I relocated because I wanted to be “up to standard”. But, those were my standards – and my aspirations.
This was different. I found myself distracted. How was this dude so perfect? “I’m off to the gym” I announced – “alright, sweets – have a good one”, the response.
For me, the gym’s always been a great place to think. So I got to thinking. I’m not an irrational person. I know that boy on the cover is airbrushed. Either that or he has no pores. What am I doing here benching my own body weight at 8.15 on a Sunday morning?
It kept happening – finding myself in the gym as a result of the bloody coffee table dude. This wasn’t aspiration. This was obsession. I’m in marketing – I should be immune to this type of influence. But what was he selling? Nothing? Himself? The magazine? The magazine. So what’s the positive sentiment of this piece? Is there any takeaway value? Eurgh. Let’s not go there.
I’m rambling, so I’m going to make a point. I don’t think that the issue of retouching is solely a women’s issue anymore. The gay press is at it too. What message does this deliver to gay men? Yes, it’s something nice to look at. And that’s what sells these magazines. Though, I’m not against attractive people. I’m against setting unobtainable standards. And, I’m not against aspiring to better yourself, I’m against reaching for something that you can’t reach. That’s what is happening here.
Then again. It must work. It must sell products. It certainly shifts magazines for Australia’s best selling magazine for gay men. Like so:
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Here’s what. Men suffer from eating disorders too. Thinking about this, I had a scout around Google and found Anorexia athletica. Now there’s something new. Originally a term coined in the 80’s it means exercise addition, a condition with psychologies similar to eating disorders. Harder to diagnose, however as those effected are ‘healthy’. It’s defined as someone’s compulsive need to exercise in order to contain their body within a set of unobtainable parameters – often distorted by their own perceptions.
And what else does it say? What message do these images land? They land the point that this is obtainable. Does this fuel infidelity? Does it tell you that every lump and bump you find on your partner is a compromise? Does it mean that you’re always on the lookout for something better?
Probably.






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Matt, I honestly don’t understand your perspective at all.
You feel inadequate at the sight of this magazine cover and it makes you go work out, but your focus is on airbrushing? I’d ask you to take another look at said magazine and the model. The model has an incredible body, and he is very handsome. The airbrushing represents very little of what makes him desirable and hence, enviable. Note how you go work out after looking at the model – you don’t go scrubbing your face.
This man probably looks incredibly in real life – and he would probably arouse just as much envy from you, without Photoshop or soft lighting. I think your trying to come to terms with the power of beauty by pretending that it isn’t real, and finding a scapegoat (the magazine). These words aren’t intended to be mean, and I’m interested in your response.
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Theres no doubt that any man wouldnt want to look like Stefan Gatt, but what actually bothers me is the emphasis that gay culture places on superficiality and whats on the outside. I am an avid gym goer and i would put my head on the line here and bet that his body is not 100% natural. And i am not talking about airbrushing! And thats the problem with gay culture, it becomes so obsessed with the superficial, it doesnt even realise that what it is looking at is totally unnatural and enhanced. I can see a man pumped with steroids a mile off and the tell tale signs of it are allover that cover shot, you just have to know what to look for. This worries me, is he cheating like athletes who abuse steroids? Or is he giving into demand placed on him by culture to look perfect? To secure that big photo shoot? Do we blame the model or the culture which has become obsessed with human perfection and muscle? Im not sure but one thing is for sure, many of the gay men looking at that cover will be viewing it sexually and admirably, any attempt to look like Stefan will fall flat, unless you are prepared to dabble in the underworld of illegal substances.
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I’d say DNA has a lot more to answer for than projecting body issues onto gay men. Just look at the stories listed on the cover. Australia’s biggest gay publication continues to perpetuate gay stereotypes and pages are filled with advertisments for gay pornography. As a young gay boy, I would sneakily as possible buy DNA magazines before I was out to any one, and before I could speak publicly to anyone about it, I was being given tips for how to make a gay threesome work. I’m sure titles like this sell magazines, but isn’t there a level of duty of care to the large gay readership, and the way gay lifestyle is presented in these magazines?
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Until mainstream advertisers choose to advertise more regularly in gay publications, I suppose the business has to take what it can get, and support their advertisers accordingly. They have to make money somehow? I never see any major brands in Australia taking active interest in gay publications like they do overseas. Out, Advocate, Manner and Mate all have fashion, cosmedics, alcohol etc – but Australian mags just dont seem to get the same support.
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Hey, my other comment isn’t there. Has it been deleted? I put a bit of time into that. What’s the go?
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Sorry Darren, I just got around to checking and for some reason your comment was deleted but none of us here deleted it! I’ve just restored it. Apologies
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Oh and I’d also like to add another thing.
I think Matt’s making an important point, namely that when we talk about body image (and how the media projects impossibly perfect and digitally retouched bodies), it’s a conversation and discussion that should include a gay perspective – ie it’s an experience for men and women, even though traditionally the conversation has focused on women’s experiences of it.
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You know, I wouldn’t isolate gay magazines and say they’re perpetuate a stereotype for gay men to tailor their lifestyle to. It’s something perpetuated across gay culture generally, at least in Australia. Why wouldn’t a gay magazine do it? It’s pretty unsurprising.
Gay culture is a microcosm of the wider world, in my experience. And things like conformity and belonging and not being left out or alone are still big drivers for gay men I reckon, based on experiences of alienation and rejection blah blah etc. You get the drift. What I’m saying is all this body image stuff isn’t what it seems – there’s a lot of insecurity there.
I go to the gym and work out – but I also like to read, watch TV, cook, go to theatre, go to exhibitions etc. You make your choices. If you want to be distracted by Marky Mark, Calvin Klein models and make that your goal in life – fine. And, I do get distracted by what I find aesthetically pleasing.
I can choose to do the whole Calvin Klein thing. But for me, there is so much more to life.
The challenge is finding the culture and people that appreciate the things I do.
My advice? Get DNA off your coffee table and get what you want to read and what attracts you (body, mind and soul) on there instead.
Welcome to the land of sunshine and bronzed bodies.
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I just realised that the gay magazines have the guys posing with their thumbs tugging their underpants down in the same way that Ralph etc have girls in bikinis doing the same. And the facial expressions are the same. It strikes me as a little amusing (I don’t know why).
Also feeling guilty that the other thing that struck me was the differing sizes of *ahem* packages on display…
In the context of women’s magazines, I guess I’d expect that women would want to look like the people on the covers since they are being held out as the ideal. I guess I have usually thought that gay magazine covers were more about presenting images of men their readers would be attracted to (particularly given the Ralph posing), rather than what they should aspire to look like. Thanks for making me think again.
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Oh my god Jason Statham is one sexy, sexy man
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I’m sorry Matt, I didn’t finish reading your article. What were you saying about perfect male bodies?
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All I want to know if any of those men would cuddle up with me and watch the notebook and tell me I am pretty ?
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I think the Jason Statham one is my favourite cos of the chest hair and receding hairline. I also like the Matthew Mitcham one because his body is not presented as an object to be admired, it shows someone who has worked hard to achieve in his chosen profession. The ‘perfect’ airbrushed ones are a bit alienating really – even the dudes posing for them probably don’t look like that in everyday life!
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Looking at those guys… just makes me glad to be with my sweet , squishy and furry man, and to be sweet, squishy and sometimes spiky me. We both like long cuddles. I can’t imagine cuddling up to one of those guys for long (if I was a gay guy, or if they were straight!), they look like they would rather go to the gym for 5 hours than snuggle on the couch with me and a dvd.
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As a reader of DNA, I find it to be an insightful and intelligent magazine in general. I do,however,agree entirely with you in regards to the often-unrealistic bodies displayed in DNA’s pages. Sure, its great “eye candy” but it perpetuates a “stereotype” of gay men. I would be most interested in a magazine purely interested in intellectual and philosophical articles related to the gay man’s experience, but, in the interim,DNA is the best alternative. ;
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I’m sorry what? Can’t.take.my.eyes.off.the.pictures.!!
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where is their body hair!? c’mon! give a girl that line of glory that runs from chest to woohoo!
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I don’t think these magazines are too concerned about giving girls anything, that’s the whole point of the mag! Not to say that I don’t like a line of glory too and that other gay men don’t either…just saying the writers of this particular magazine prob aren’t not too concerned about what women think
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Heres a question worth considering: Are lesbians affected by the whole ‘unobtainable magazine body image’ thing as much as hetero women are? And are hetero men affected as much as gay men?
It may be just my perception, but there seems to be more acceptance within the lesbian community, of a wider range of ‘sexy’ body types. Sure, the media stil likes to push the same imagery to represent lesbians, as it uses to represent the ideal hetero woman, but the lesbian community that I know, has proportionately less people aspiring to those sorts of ‘ideals’, (and consequently feeling disatisfied about their bodies), than I observe amongst hetero women. And the hetero men I know are far more likely to read mags about fishing, cars, football and money, than mags with any significant focus on their personal appearance.
Of course I dont know enough women, lesbian or hetero, to describe statistically significant ‘trends’ but IF the ‘unfair beauty ideals’ problem affects gay men and hetero women predominantly – well, you have to ask – whats the common factor here? Something about trying (even subconciously) to appeal to a male ideal of ‘attractive’, perhaps?
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I wud say I dont quite agree with ye Hmmm. If hetero men werent obsessed with those ken doll, there wont be mens health magazine
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..but there are not many mens magazines that are about clothes and looks are there? Men’s health magazines are the nearest thing to it, and they arnt as popular as the car and sport ones I dont think. Men who want to attract women, dont care as much about how they look, as men who want to attract men.
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Chicca, if you visit book stores or book stands regularly, you will realise that there are heaps men mags that focus on how to become ken doll. im myself gay n i go to straight men gym. they are obsessed. trust me.
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Portia de Rossi instantly came to mind …
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“Threesomes. Who puts what where?”
Holy Mother of Divine Intervention! How much detail do these magazines go into exactly? What a sheltered life I lead.
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I was wondering the same thing!
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Personally, I didn’t see anything wrong with the covers of those magazines. Just to be sure though, I’ll go back and have another look.
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Isn’t it funny how none of the male models (or female, for that matter) have ever had their appendix out…?
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how can you tell??? I
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I should take another look too.
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we can argue till doomsday but it is in you, deep inside you! im gay n i love muscular guys n well-endowed ones. i hit the gym regularly too. i have beer belly. im not superdupermuscular. im confident about my look n my body. so its about you: if you lose your self-esteem by seeing those images, its your fault, not anyone’s or any business company’s. those who says that its for the business are right, cos the mags (or any kinds of business) have to make money so they can eat, pay rent, etc. for the models, they live every day hitting the gym cos its their lives. they take pills n other chemical substances, they cant eat wot they want to eat, nope, they hold themselves from eating wot they want to eat. they have personal trainers who wud help them be these ken dolls. for us who are not models, our lives orbit in our lives. if youre a banker like me, your world evolves around it. you start working early n finish late. you want to hit the gym but many times youre just too tired to do so. even idiots know not to hit the gym when youre not feeling well. so wot im saying is: its depends all up to you. if youre grateful with who you are, you win over those ken dolls whose job is to look like that. if you lose your self-esteem due to those ken dolls, you are the biggest idiots the world can have. but, there is a but, there is no wrong to look better or to be better from your current status, just dont be obsessed. cos once you are, you lose n the ken dolls win.
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Thanks for your comment, it’s interesting the angle you’ve taken, but I’d like to say this in return.
What I’m speaking about here is influence, not self-esteem. It’s how the media influences our choices and decisions even when we’re not aware. I’d consider myself a confident person, and what I’m writing about here is my surprise as to how I was influenced and my thought process having recognised and established that.
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i so agree with you matt. (you can check my fb where i shared this link to make sure i agree with you). i know youre not talking about self-esteem, but the influence this kind of thing has on you is right there on your self-esteem. from wotever points of views, it’ll circle back to your self-esteem.
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oh, matt, fyi only, ive lived in sydney, canberra n nambucca valleys for some times so i know wot its like to be in oz.
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hmmm, damaging? no, oogling hot men, yes… i get these rags for the pics. even if i was to strive for the hot bods, thats always better than being overweight…
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I hadn’t scrolled through the images when I first posted on here; when I did I realised after 3 or 4 of them that I was pulling a face… teeth gritted… the way you do when you see some particularly grisly medical photo. Ugh. The only one I found attractive was the guy standing side on who was clothed (singlet and jeans)… there’s something of the upturned crab about those bodies… http://media.photobucket.com/image/underside%20crab/Leephan79/Cooking/Ginger%20scallion%20crab%20over%20fried%20rice/IMG_6243.jpg
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It is interesting that the writer of this post decided to pick the more vapid covers of this magazine.
You didn’t pick the covers talking about homophobia in Russia, executions in Iran, gay priests, teen suicide or STDs.
This magazine has fantastic CONTENT, ranging from shallow discussions of sex, to deep analysis of the world and culture that all you can focus on is a HEALTHY man, there to look sexy.
Sheesh.
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im more concerned with one of the headlines about threesomes. Theres already a lot of misinformation out there about gay and bisexuals without a magazine screaming about threesomes. I did like the headline about “romance:21 tips to make your romance last.” i think its important to give varied representation of gay/bisexual people. Some do have crazy sex lives/multiple partners but others have been with their partner for decades. Not all like fashion while others live for it and not all are flamboyant, some you would never think of as being gay.
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i haven’t bought many women’s mags lately, but don’t they have similar things on their cover? ie. crass over-sexual headlines about preforming oral sex or whatever.
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It’s not quite the same. Magazines like this sit closer to soft porn & art for gay men (with the added bonus of interesting articles). We love to look at muscular, hot men, compare physiques, and lust over possibilities. It’s in our nature.
And while many of us will take the odd ‘pointer’ from the various forms of porn we see (from soft mag to the hardcore) I don’t think we are under any illusion that this is the image we must aspire to. Yes, we’d like to dream and hope we could … but we not slaves to magazines. For us, it is still art, still a bit of fantasy fulfillment… But I think you’re naive to suggest it’s the magazine’s fault.
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I have worked in publishing in the past, and I really dont think anyone produces magazines to make people feel bad. If they make you feel bad, you simply shouldn’t buy them. There are so many alternative titles out there, and so much free content online that there really is no reason to complain about this kind of thing.
Magazines are ultimately a business, they dont operate on hopes and dreams, they have commitments to publishers, and advertisers who expect certain results will be met. Ultimately, they have to sell and the pressure is on them. There is so much content around in this day and age, and with the digital revolution continually changing, its really all about finding your niche, and evolving with the market – something that the publishing industry will continue to find challenging in the coming years.
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As one who is beyond unattractive by gay and straight standards let me say this: boo fricken hoo. It’s not the magazine cover that makes you feel bad, it’s the way guys reject you if you don’t measure up. You’re not exercising because of a perfectly airbrushed photo: you’re doing it because you know that unless you fit into the mold set by the vacuous and vain that you will even find it hard to maintain friendships with gay men.
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I am so tired of this constant uproar about magazines, retouching, and the types of people they put on their front cover. I don’t care.
I can happily read a magazine and not feel pressured to look like the models, because I know they do not sit in a desk for 10+ hours a day and probably eat chocolate umm never, and have to follow painfully strict and horrible diets for their job.
I have to put up with onstant ongoing legal education and risks of professional negligence that these models do not have to put up with. That is what I get paid to do. Now, how many models look at my job and go “OMG I feel so pressured to be like her because look at the image of cool and calm she projects to me from her legal office!”.
Gay men, straight men, straight women, gay women, bisexual, transsexual, transgender, whomever you are, if you look at a magazine and feel bad about yourself, there are obviously other issues with your self esteem.
People in magazines are paid to look the way they do. they get paid lots of money to be paid to do a job based on their appearance. You are not. You are paid to do your chosen career, not look like a cover model.
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I agree that people feeling bad because of images in a mag probably do have self esteem issues; however, tweens and teenagers do not understand the world of modelling. It is likely that they do not really understand the world at all (and probably do look at you in your legal office and think WOW). Yes, it is up to parents to help create self esteem and explain the magazine industry, but wouldn’t it just be better to not create unrealistic ideals from the outset.
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I see your point about the teens and tweens. When I was a teenager, I read Dolly and Girlfriend magazine, and I don’t ever remember thinking I wanted to look like one of the models in the magazines. and when I got abit into the later teens, I started reading Cosmo and Cleo, and from what I can remember, my attention was more focussed on the sealed section rather than the glamorous models!
I mainly drooled over the clothes and wanted money to buy it all. I was a chubby early teen too, certainly not one that looked like the models in the magazines.
I think it is really simply a case of explaining to kids that the people in magazines get paid to look like that, and it is hard work, and a full time job to look like that! that is their job, and that job is not for everyone, and often, is not a job that will last you much past the age of 30!
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this is wot im talking about! (you can read my comment later.) the ken dolls get paid to look like they do, working with their muscles mostly; we get paid to sit for about 10 hours a days working with our brains, mostly. so naturally we live in different world as the do. n yes, i believe that they dont eat chocs. if they do, they might end up at the closet vomiting it.
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I’ve always felt kinda annoyed about the emphasis on women and girls’ eating disorders and body issues, like guys don’t have that problem.
In some ways, I reckon it’d be worse. Girls just have to be skinny. Guys have to be skinny AND built. It’s okay for a girl to be feminine, girly, masculine, tomboy etc. – but there’s still a stigma for guys to be ‘manly’.
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I think the men on the front of the magazines must have worked really hard to look like they do, its a full time job with all the nutrition, work outs and supplements. I think they are in the 2% of the male population that can look like that, like only 2% of women can look like supermodels.
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The point on infedility seemed rushed and totally irrelevant. Good points though. The last few covers of DNA, especially the most recent have not been very appealing at all. Many people actually like something a little more real. Even if it is a little bit of hair, or a pore. The love of people who aren’t “perfect” does actually exist, it’s just this type of media and the drama created by many gays that covers up what really is there.
The world is just somewhat messed up, but the majority of us love this messed up world. I’m just waiting for my “perfect” man to be on the cover of DNA. Until then porn will just have to serve me. Haha.
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My husband has decided to get a 6 pack and is buying magazines with very fit guys on the cover and stories telling him how he too can look like this. I pointed out the digital assistance the photos have had and he told me that the guy worked really hard to look that good. I am sure that he did but no one looks that good. These enhanced images need to be labelled ASAP.
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As a gay man, I find other gay men intimidating! There is a lot of obsession with looking perfect and I find it disconerting. That’s just me though. If people enjoy the gym that much, good on them!
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As a man-loving woman, I actually find this six-pack obsession a real turn off. Apart from the fact it would constantly make me feel even more insecure about my own physical shape, I think these toned-to-within-an-inch-of-their-foreskin bodies are incredibly plastic-looking, like human-sized Ken dolls (though admittedly, unlike Ken, they seem to have genitals ;-D). I can maybe admire them in a sculptural sense, but not as desirable men.
I feel for you guys (both gay and hetero) being subjected to the same body image mind-fuck we gals have for decades… don’t go there girlfriends!
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” toned-to-within-an-inch-of-their-foreskin” – actually just made me LOL – thanks!:)
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My work here is done, then
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Me too. I’m definitely going to have to borrow it!
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I think it was Eric Bana who said 6 packs are for people with no life and no friends! A six-pack takes a level of focus that is beyond what regular dudes with regular jobs and lives can keep up with.
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Exactly! And is totally unattainable to anybody who doesn’t have those 6 hours a day of training to dedicate…
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Most of the gay boys in my life are not into the gym either. Some are really into partying and the ‘scene’ while others are homebodies. It think there is great variety out there and no one group fits into one box. But it certainly it isn’t a new concept that sex sells and most magazines do want to sell lots of copies – just look at all the different types of titty magazines out there for men covered with artificially enhanced bodies and airbrushed skin. Also, I think men in general are visually stimulated so having a hot gay guy on the front cover of a gay magazine is probably going to sell well.
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I think that the point is gay men look at this images the same way that woman look at imagine in Cleo/Cosmo and also the images women see in mens magazine.
For heterosexual images that men compare themselves to think Mens Health (wasn’t there a story on here about that many moons ago?
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Majority of my friends are gay, not o e is over weight and almost all if not all go to the gym regulary, for hours at a time they all have great body’s and ezy on the eye but it’s never enough, it’s not just the mags that do this it’s the preasure on them selves because the gay world is so judge mental and perceive all gay men to look great and smell good too.. I think every one suffers from this pressure and the need to be and do better. We need to be greatfull and blessed for what we have.. Love each other and our self and not the unacheavable!! But it’s hard when we all are bombarded with images of “Perfection” all the time.
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I’ve never understood this obsession everyone (mostly women, but it seems men too?) has with looking like models, or in this case atheletes. Or for that matter why people blame their low self esteem issues on models/atheletes/the media.
Models are models – they are supposed to look good.
Atheletes are machines – they are also supposed to look good.
If you want to look like that stop eating crap, get your butt to the gym and start doing something about it. Oh and quit blaming others for your feelings of inadequacy. Personally I couldn’t think of anything worse than having to work that hard for a great body, so I don’t lay around whining about my little bits of fat.
Having said all that though, I am very grateful for this article if only for the delicious perve. Especially the super hot chocolate. Raaaoooowwwww!
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good point: don’t blame others for your feelings of inadequacy.
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I am the photographer who shot Stefan for this cover and layout, and yes I did do some touch up on blemishes and cleaned up the skin tones, but trust me this is his body,
he is a fitness model, and he is in a few bodybuilding competitions,
so this is why he has such a perfect body,
cheers
Thomas Synnamon Photography
http://www.thomassynnamon.com
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Thanks Thomas for clearing that up. Interestingly, the use of the word ‘perfect’ is so telling here. What actually IS a perfect body?
Who determines that?
Isn’t it totally a subjective thing?
I have no problem with the cover (I’m a gay guy) but why is it the only type of body that gay mags put on their covers?
Who says we all find that attractive? Who says we all aspire to take home someone who looks like that?
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Buy a different Magazine if this isn’t your type of guy. There is more then 1 gay magazine out there..
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Never seen the mag before but what I found interesting was that if you changed the photo to an unfeasibly gorgeous woman and tweaked one article to remove the word gay you have a carbon copy of one of the bimbo mags – in fact the article about threesomes tagline I swear I have seen word for word on Cleo or Cosmo. An interesting contrast with the lads mags which would avoid all this stuff like the plague. Ralph and co are just as airheaded as Cosmo but in a totally different way, they don’t pretend to take anything seriously.
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may i just say i nice perve for the morning!
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aorry should read “its’ a”
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Up to a certain point I feel sorry for the magazines industry…they can’t win for losing…nobody would buy their magazines if ugly people were on the front cover or an ugly garden or a ugly interior of a home…not a nice thing to say but probably true.
Heres a thought…if you don’t like the cover vote with your wallet and don’t buy the magazine!!!
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I’m not gay (obviously) but I very much enjoyed scrolling through that gallery!
Don’t the models have to get quite dehydrated though for their 6-packs to be so prominent?
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Yep – so it is not a HEALTHY or NORMAL Body. Whether airbrushed or not.
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How is this different from any other magazine on the market? A majority of consumer titles have aspirational images – for women, these tend to be highly stylised concept pieces shot by acclaimed photographers. It is simply translating a broader trend to a certain readership. This is not a ‘gay’ issue. It is how the modern mediascape operates.
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Yep, but it’s not a competition to see who has it toughest. I’d never thought about how these kinds of images effect men before. Just because it happens to women too doesn’t make it right and doesn’t mean we shouldn’t complain about it!
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I guess the difference here -and something I hadn’t thought about before – is that the covers of gay magazines and gay imagery like this is not just telling readers how THEY should look but also who they should want to sleep with.
It’s establishing the ideal male body.
And why is that a body that’s so out of reach and (IMO) ridiculous?
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What I find incredulous is the entire debate about how consumer titles or campaigns present men OR women. It is intended to be aspirational. Humans have been doing this for centuries; through paintings, through myths, through tales which speak of extraordinary beauty. We turn to these as a point of marvel. Yes there is room to present the everyday, but to quash the extraordinary, whether is be real or hypereal, is a f#cking bore.
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Response from DNA: We Photoshop blemishes and spots but don’t change the actual shape of the models’ bodies.
The models are real people who’ve worked hard to achieve their physiques and should be congratulated.
These are healthy bodies; the men we shoot are usually athletes and personal trainers rather than fashion models.
DNA’s core message is not “This is what you must look like,” it is, “Here are some hot guys. Please enjoy.”
Andrew Creagh, Editor, DNA (andrew@dnamagazine.com.au)
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Thanks Andrew for taking the time to reply and engage with this post. But isn’t the problem the same as with women’s mags?
Looking at your picture, you don’t have the same kind of body as your cover guy. And I assume most of your readers don’t either.
Is there only one type of male body presented by your mag as ‘hot’ to your readers?
A body that’s completely unattainable to 99% of the population.
Month after month.
Surely that’s as bad as women’s mags just showing 16 year old blonde supermodels as the ultimate body shape to aspire to…..
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Josie very well said!!
Andrew the problem with, “here are some hot guys. Please enjoy.” Is that it doesn’t stop at that. Naturally when we see something we like, we want it for ourselves. These images thrust ahead external beauty/ appearance way too much. Instead there should be a balance and I can’t tell you of one mag that has been able to achieve this.
I looked at your picture and thought that’s ‘real.’ He looks great and attractive as well. I didn’t need to see an over-muscled body to think that.
It was great to see you get involved in the discussion
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Actually I heard that the Defense Forces do not encourage 6 packs purely because to get one you need 21% body fat, and that they class anorexia to be 19%, so the two are very dangerously close.
if you are found to be 19% body fat you are disciplined.
So if that is correct then i would say calling those bodies healthy is not correct because for the majority of people it is not a healthy obtainable ‘look’.
Elite athletes are freaks of nature (in an amazing way!)
(I may not be correct in this as it was years ago and from a second hand source (i also may not remember the percentages right…)
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I’m not sure where you are getting these stats, but a % BF figure for men with visible abs usually has to be much much lower than 21%, it’s more like 5% for men and something like 8% for women.
Also i don’t think anorexia can be classed by a body fat % at all as most elite athletes are well below 10% and they usually eat like constantly.
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Wrong! Look it up!
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This article is pointless. Gay guys just want another reason to complain. Women already face this issue, so don’t try and “claim” this as yet another vendetta against gays.
What about hetero guys hmmmmm???
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Aw, come come. I’m not saying that. I’m saying that it’s no longer an issue thats exclusively female… and, what I’m saying is that we’re our own worst enemies in this situation.
Take it to be, that we’re all in the same boat!
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Mel – I disagree. I think it’s really interesting to see how body image effects not just women but men too.
ALL the images of men you see in magazines these days – gay or straight – have six-packs and are hairless and perfect.
Body image is a major concern for men too.
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Did you hop out of bed on the wrong side today? Again…
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Hey Matt,
don’t worry about Mel’s comments, she is a fairly regular troll here. She pops up every now and again and always says something offensive, insensitive and pointless. I am assuming she must be under 16 years old, otherwise I don’t know what her excuse is.
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i can second that. she only comes by every few weeks, says something to upset people and then leave.
MUST NOT FEED TROLLS!
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There is definitely no “takeaway value” to gain from such images, however, the one thing that really stuck with me is something Matt said: “I’m against reaching for something that you can’t reach.” The next time any of us are trying to change our appearance whether that be loosing weight, reducing the wrinkles on our face, trying to look like someone we see in a mag…whatever it is. We need to STOP and think about how real the images we are viewing, actually are and consider if our goals are achievable. If they don’t seem natural, chances are, it’s a mission impossible. I think this post wasn’t only brilliant but a great reminder to us all, including myself, to stop complaining about how hard it is to get a bottom like Jennifer Lopez/ Kylie Minogue or thighs like Cameron Diaz or larger breasts like Pamela Anderson. Let’s just love ourselves!
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YES! What Waff said.
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I am with you too Waff.
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Wat Waff, Hobart Girl and Jade said
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Thanks Hobart Girl, Jade and Susan as well!
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Umm what is the point of this article?? Tell us something we don’t know or haven’t discussed at length on here before…… So what if it is a male or female it is all the same and has the same negative effect!
Or is the point of the article that it is worse for a gay male because that is the only difference here from the 40 other blogs we have had on this issue.
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Carly,
The point of this article – like most of those we publish on Mamamia – is to give an interesting, personal perspective on an issue.
I had not given much thought to the way body image affects gay men before which is why when Matt and I were discussing it one morning over the toaster in the Mamamia kitchen, I asked him to write this post.
I always believe in the value of listening to a fresh perspective.
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Who would want to look like that cover guy anyway? How many gay men (or straight men) aspire to look that way or sleep with someone who does?
Genuine question.
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honestly i would rather have my hubby the way he is than one of those guys. They would spend hours a day trying to perfect their bodies, wouldnt be able to enjoy food, go to waxing appointments, etc. That wouldnt leave much time for spending with me and the family. I think vanity in guys or girls is very off putting.
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so what you’re saying is the problem that females experienced is also experienced by men..and we should be banning un declared touching up of photos…. agree. and we should all geta big dose of self esteem…..
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Yes definitely. Because men are animals and simply cannot control their urges.
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Hey,
Thanks for your comments. What I’m saying is that these images set unobtainable standards – then I’m simply questioning what the ramifications of that could be.
I understand your sentiments around airbrushed females with men, but to challenge you on that, look at the Lynx advertising where you see distinctly average looking men attracting airbrushed babes. Again, the point I’m making is that this is landing the message that it’s all obtainable. It’s the same message, delivered to a different demographic, in a different way.
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That makes sense.
I appreciate that this article is discussing the growing trend of perfect airbrushed men affecting male consumers in the same way that perfect airbrushed women affect female consumers.
But I guess the issue with that lynx ad isn’t JUST an issue of airbrushing or unattainable beauty. It’s also an example of the overwhelming sexism that still remains in our society that women are only worth what they look like.
They are two separate issues that tie in with society’s obsession with looks and beauty. But I guess sometimes it’s hard to palate discussing how it’s affecting men when female sexism and all of those issues that go with it are so unbelievably prevalent and abhorrent.
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TOTALLY agree (and thanks for coming back) – I did go down the same thought trail of sexism, but I didn’t want to comment on that as it’s not an issue I’m as close to or profess to understand… I’ve learnt this morning that it’s quite hard for women to palate the issue as a male issue, which is pretty interesting. Probably an angle I didn’t consider as everyone I know thinks of me as a big girl, I reckon (and Lana here in the MM office as I’ve only just managed to get her green nail varnish off that she tested out on my index finger yesterday!)
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It’s definitely an issue that is worth talking about and shouldn’t be dismissed. When I said hard to palate I meant that when compared to the tangible inequality and objectification of women in pretty much every branch of media and society (not to mention in other countries where being female is enough to get you killed or raped without consequence) it seems pretty low down the list of things to feel outraged by.
But again it is definitely something that is relevant and worth talking about and being concerned by.
Just because other things matter more to the audience that you’re talking to (predominately female on this website) doesn’t mean what you’re talking about doesn’t matter.
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Oh, Lordy, I don’t care about the article. Those men are magnificent.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG I am exactly the same! I feel like such a perv looking at those men.
Seriously, it is a worrying issue though.
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Rick had a miserable time putting the gallery together. Miserable I tell you!
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I could imagine! The many, many images you would have to scour for our benefit to highlight the point of the article ; ) Those men are made for perving pleasure! ( I know that is the point of the article how unobtainable it all is, but hey if they are gay well then they were already unobtainable to us pervy peverson girls anyway)
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Petal they actually turn me off! Completely
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Me too. Not my thing at ALL. Not that they’d be terribly worried about that…..
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I bet you would be wrong LOL – just because someone is on the cover of a gay magazine doesn’t make him gay, just like being a female on a men’s magazine doesn’t make em straight either.
At the end of the day it’s marketing and it’s a bit of good old fashioned escapism. Sure the gay community is a bit obsessed by body image but DNA is a magazine that has to sell and having an cute guy on the cover and inside the pages sells mags
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Well, yes, their abs could do with a bit of softening. And call me old fashioned, but I really don’t mind pubic hair. But, hey, not bad photos to look (purv) at on a Tuesday morning!
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I don’t think so. I personally wouldn’t want to date someone who cares that much and spends that much time sculpting their abs. I think if you put that much energy into your body, then something else about you like your personality or your sense of humour or your brain is going to suffer. And that’s the main thing that I like about people, not what they look like but who they are, how they sparkle.
So airbrushed photos of buff dudes don’t turn me off real men who don’t look like that. I like who I like and that’s that.
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