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Google has an answer for almost anything. Any remarkable slice of information, any essay on a mind-boggling multitude of subjects. Facts about bats, about countries, about politics and philosophy. Facts about why a certain thing smells a certain way. Why your toes are all tingly.

It has the answers so you don’t have to. And it’s making your brain atrophy, like the ill-used muscles of a bed bound athlete.

Well, sort of.

The Internet is making us a different kind of stupid. Google’s own mission statement is to curate all the information in the world. To take everything from our collective conscience, humanity’s greatest and not-so-great works, and store it for us all. All you’ll have to do is remember how to access it.

Humans know we can’t fit all that information into our brains, even though they are far and away the best super-computing devices in the known universe. So we share the burden of memory. Particularly in close relationships. You remember where the account details are and he remembers where the password to your online phone bill. Or some variation of the two.

But studies show we’ve jettisoned the use of family and friends in this respect for the convenience of Google.

So Google hasn’t destroyed our brains or rotted them to the core. It has, however, changed what we remember. We no longer remember the ‘what’ (what’s the capital of Brunei?) but the ‘how’ (how can I quickly find out what the capital to Brunei is?).

1. You can get information quicker, so your attention span is shot.

A four-year-old child can find out in 0.15 seconds what it used to take a grown adult weeks of research in a library to achieve.

0.15 seconds. Sometimes even quicker.

And with such unbridled speed, our minds have also turned into jittery bundles of energy flitting from one parcel of information to the next. Parcel, not cargo container. Concentration? What’s that? Wait, let’s go here. Now there. What about that link? Sure thing.

You can scan 10 links and cherry-pick just enough detail from all of them to form a thin sheath of knowledge in 30 seconds.

Nothing is really in depth any more because our minds are rewiring. We want to know a little bit about everything but don’t have the patience to stick it out.

2. We’ve become a society of ‘Power Browsers’.

Part of the efficiency of the net has changed the way we read, in real life as well as on a web page. Heavy Internet users are becoming ‘power browsers’. Think of it as extreme reading. Speed reading on performance enhancers. Who has time for any exhaustive deep analysis when there are more web pages than any human could ever get through in a lifetime?

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Can we be too connected to information?

3. Our memories are all about access.

The more we outsource information to something else (Google, your partner and so on) the less recall we have in our memory bank. But our ability to learn how and where to get that information grows stronger. So it’s a different kind of smart. Too bad if civilisation ended, however, and took out the Internet…

4. The net makes us multi-taskers, which doesn’t help us in ‘real life’.

Tests conducted at Stanford University’s Communication Between Humans and Interactive Media Lab between heavy multitaskers and those who rarely multitasked revealed something surprising. Those who were constantly on the go and juggling multiple tasks at once performed poorly on a battery of cognitive tests. The researchers had thought they might have gained some ‘unique mental function or advantage’ but there was nothing. Zip. They were less able to determine what information was useful and what was trivial, distracted more often and were in possession of an attention span worthy of a two-year-old.

5. But … we’ve never been smarter.

It’s the power of cloud intelligence. We might not individually know more today than we did 50 years ago but we’ve never had access to more knowledge. The Internet did for our collective intelligence what the printing press did last millennium but with about one thousand times the potency. Soon enough we’ll all have access to the bulk of the world’s information anywhere we go, whenever we want. Our brains might not know enough on the hop to win the case of beer at pub trivia, but we’ll certainly be very good at getting the answer quick enough on our phones. How we then sort through that information and analyse it is, ultimately, up to us.

How has the Internet changed the way you think, read or access information? Have you noticed you habits changing because of it?

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  1. skydrifter

    IT is a tool, memory does not serve us well as we age, as we go through our life crises, so the tool is the best so far.
    Google is guilty of changing it’s methods, places us in a bubble of filtered information – this is the real problem. Google is not the only engine.
    If you want to get out of the information bubble, and really explore, (like we used to), use: Duck Duck Go. An extra bonus being, Google can not make money from tracking you.
    Speaking of tracking, use firefox browser, ghostery tracking blocker, and noscript java filter.

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  2. Article Submission

    uvzkpa I think this is a real great blog post.Much thanks again.

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  3. alisontriffett

    Great post Rick. And so so true! I remember the days when a school assignment meant spending a full Saturday afternoon at the Library, using “microfiche” to find the right reference books – then handwriting the relevant material from that book. If you weren’t lucky/rich enough to have the spare change for photocopying, then that’s just what you had to do!

    These days, our kids have google for every assignment and don’t have to leave their rooms at all. Hell, they can even submit said assignments online and not even turn up for lectures! We can work from home/offices and never even have to darken the door of a Post Office to send letters (what are they anyway? Does anyone send them anymore?). I could go on, but I won’t bore you…I’m feeling old just writing this! But wow. All of the above makes the Jetson’s flying cars look almost archaic. And as for the Flintstones…sigh…

    My point is this (after all my raving) I think the Internet has sped life/us up to a speed that I don’t think any of us would cope without now. If we have to wait even 30 seconds for a download (or anything) we get a bit tetchy. Are we smarter? Maybe. But are we more easily irritated and frustrated if we have to wait? I think so!

    As wonderful as the internet is (I for one admit that I doubt I could live without it now) I do think it’s made us all a bit more stressed, impatient, intolerant and perhaps a little more vulnerable to abuse/bullying too. Our personal boundaries are now so blurred between work, school, social life as it follows us everywhere on our smart phones, ipads, home/work computers, twitter, facebook. What would we do if someone actually managed to ever shut it down completely? I think the term “end of the world” would have a whole ‘nother meaning don’t you?!

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  4. Rita PK

    I got an iPhone this year. You know how you have random thoughts while sitting on a tram or watching tv etc? Well now I have 24/7 access to wiki or google…

    Fyi: there are some thoughts that are better left to stay random, unexplored and unanswered.

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  5. melinka

    I work as a scientist and while the internet makes looking up information far quicker (but not necessarily easier), I think it’s also a massive time waster.

    At least once a day I have to (almost forcibly..!) disengage and …. CONCENTRATE. The practical side of my work requires a different sort of concentration but gathering ideas together into a plausible theory worth testing, analysing and interpreting data, reading papers and writing your own … these all take concentration, and I find that even just email & Firefox mess with that. I’m rampantly on Twitter and Facebook outside of work and I love it, but I think it can get overwhelming too. Having time to think is immensely valuable.

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  6. Gilgamesh

    “The Internet did for our collective intelligence what the printing press did last millennium but with about one thousand times the potency.”

    A collective “artificial” intelligence as oppossed to an organic one. I suppose that is the raison d’être, an early or advance stage symbiotic process between man and machine. As witnessed by the fact that the very information we are processing takes the form of bits and bytes. Not for everyone I would say and I believe the inclusion of someone like myself would give even the Borg indigestion!

    Good article Mate.

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  7. Definitely agree with this article (though, with a bit of bias, I think I’ve picked a few things up :D ) I’ve just finished a degree on International Politics, a degree full of essays and regurgitated information. I think the high school and university generations are being taught this way simply to keep up with what we ‘need’ to know, which is sad. The idea of it, I think, is supposed to give people this option to simply google whatever it is they don’t know, but also retain that information to recall it later.

    That’s the idea, at least, not sure it works for all.

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  8. sometimeskaren

    “Intelligence” is really one’s ability to flourish in their particular environment. What’s seen as intelligent in western society is of no use in other societies, and vice versa.

    So, with that in mind, if your brain adapts to the internet faster than your peers, and if your environment is one that is dependent on the kind of information available on the net (and not, say, running away from rabid wolves) then you win.

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  9. Kathy W

    I am a high school teacher so the internet is an amazing tool in the classroom – especially as I teach history and there are many wonderful resources available at a click. For example I’m teaching the Whitlam Dismissal at the moment and plan to show the class the famous ‘well may we say God Save the Queen…’ speech by Whitlam – and it’s instantly available to me on You Tube.
    However, at home, not so much. I get out my medical dictionary instead of googling symptoms and still get out the phone book and the street directory. I also love my local library and would rather hold a book than read a kindle screen any day.

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  10. lauren91

    From some of the comments made over at the ‘sports heroes’ post, I think people abuse the anonymity of the Internet sometimes. I was even surprised at myself – I’m quite non-confrontational in ‘real life’, but found it quite easy to have a heated debate over the Net. Possibly because I had time to think about what I wanted to say and how I wanted to say it, which would be difficult in a face-to-face confrontation.

    Thankfully, I was able to think of things to say without having to resort to outright insults. I think people find it very easy to forget their manners and decency when talking on the Internet, because nobody knows who you are.

    I think that’s why cyber-bullying has become much more prominent. It’s much harder to enforce rules and control what goes on on something as large as the Internet.

    Oh Rick, I know the Cadel thing has taken over today, but you make some really interesting points in this post. Good work as always!!!

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    • Rick Morton

      Thank you! And thanks for stopping by amid the crazy ;)

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      • lauren91

        Any time! It was crazy wasn’t it? I really didn’t think it would get so full on! Poor Mia, please tell her I thought she handled it very well, and I hope her day is much brighter tomorrow!!

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  11. Meredith @ thinkthinks

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    I kid I kid! I think this is so true. I do find that I much more impatient about finding out answers now it is so easy to get information. One road trip several years ago with the kids, my husband and I made a list of the things we saw or discussed that we would need to google when we got home. Things like the etymology of ‘bric a brac’ and who was Sam Poo (because we’re nutty like that). Now we would have the answer accessed on our phones – read and forgotten by the next bend in the road.

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  12. Lulu

    “How has the Internet changed the way you think, read or access information? Have you noticed you habits changing because of it?”

    I went on holiday to Europe in 2008 & again in 2010, and booked ALL of the accommodation on the internet. I used ‘hard copy’ books to plan the itinerary, but all the booking & 95% of the hotel selection was done on the internet. The only hotel didn’t select on the internet was in London, purely because there seem to be thousands of them, so I went for one which I’d seen in a guidebook.

    I think the internet is better for some things than others. I’m slightly peeved that my life-long excellent memory for useless information is no longer quite as much of an advantage as it once was.

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  13. Dr K

    I think it’s important to remember that research isn’t just about gathering facts, it’s about analyse and synthesise them to create new knowledge. As a researcher, it has never been easier to gather “stuff”, which means I have a lot more time and material to analyse and synthesise. What we are looking at is not a degraded form of knowledge, but a different kind of knowledge. We are evolving, which is what we have always done.

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  14. ipomenscarlet

    Personally, I’d happily exchange my ability to remember the capital of Brunei for access to everything everywhere at the touch of a button.

    And that’s assuming I agree with the proposition that my memory’s been adversely affected in the first place.

    I have no way of proving this, but I reckon I have to remember so much more, because I read about so many more interesting things.

    I *want* to remember all these interesting things so that I can chat or think about them in real life.

    It makes me so happy that I can discover so much so quickly.

    It makes me feel so empowered that I am no longer restricted by the “tyranny of distance” of living in Australia.

    The internet means that I’m liberated to find competitive prices or rare products.

    I can communicate with loved ones overseas without going bankrupt.

    And I’m not restricted to believing what people say, just because they say it with authority. I can go find out what the worlds’ experts have to say on any matter.

    I don’t believe we sacrifice our short term memories for this liberation, but even if we did, we’re sacrificing something that I don’t think can compete with this liberation.

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  15. monnie

    Love the internet but I have to agree with Kerr…I think the internet has made us meaner. It dismays me how vicious people become once they are communicating via a screen… I think it dehumanises interaction. I’ve heard a traffic expert say a similar thing about cars and road rage. Once there is that physical barrier between ourselves and others, whether it is a screen or a car door, our ability to communicate with respect and civility goes out the window!

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    • ipomenscarlet

      Monnie, I agree that the amount of nastiness on the net is pretty horrifying.

      I can sicken myself just reading the comments to articles on The Age website… but, I do wonder if we’re maybe no more nasty than we ever were, it’s just that all our worst traits are made public and recorded forever.

      I hear a fair bit of nastiness (eg. gossip) in the real world – but it’s spoken and there’s no record of it. And most of all, it can only be disseminated among a small group at a time.

      But I do agree: there is a hell of a lot of sickening stuff online.

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    • Kathy

      Agree also. I’m far more impressed with the level of respect shown for others by bloggers on Mamamia compared to other sites (particularly news sites). Many blog spots can bring out the worst in people and I must admit it has distorted my view somewhat on humanity. Although I’m all for freedom of speech it’s a shame that there’s not a set of standards or better screening of what gets published/blogged on the internet.

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  16. theboysmum

    ha! I do have a pretty good attention span, I just read all 65 comments. In one go. Yay me!

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  17. Mizzy

    I can testify to the shortened attention span caused by the internet. I’ve been at uni for three years now and the amount of time I spend of the internet has skyrocketed. I always ctrl + F key words in journals to see how relevant it is, it harder to concentrate when I study compared to high school, if I’m e-lecturing I can see my attention waning and I have to confess even on MM I don’t have the patience to read all the comments for a story. I normally just read the ones that has the most thumbs or replies.

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  18. lgcollard

    This was so obvious to me last night. I was watching the 2002 film ‘The Quiet American’, which is set in Vietnam in the 50s (wonderful film BTW).

    Anyway, the main character, a journalist, came across the name of a chemical and he didn’t know what it was for. In the first heartbeat I thought ‘just Google it!’…. a giant-sized DER moment for me given it was the 1950s! However, it shows what my reflex action is when presented with a missing piece of information.

    (Fowler, the journalist, had to wait some days and use an encyclopedia. Quaint!)

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    • Petal

      I read that book in Year 10 I think. Found it incredibly slow. Did the move have Michael Caine in it? Always wondered if the film was better than the book.

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      • lgcollard

        Sorry Petal… only just saw this! I haven’t read the book, but my husband has and he said the movie was paced in a very similar way. However, he enjoyed the movie far more and he didn’t have as much contempt for the journalist character (Thomas Fowler, played by Michael Caine) as he did when reading the book. He actually felt like he understood the point of the book far more through having seen the movie.

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  19. Kathy

    Yes it has changed me. I now have very different expectations and are easily frustrated if I cannot get information quickly about any given subject. I work part-time as a researcher and expect to know more about my subject than ever before. If I can’t get a good handle on my topic quickly I get frustrated. I pump out reports for my employer (Government Dept.) at much faster rates than I did 10 year ago. I get an adrenaline rush from gathering vast amounts of information in a short period of time . I remember the internet being down at work a few years ago and this put me in a state of depression. I’m not used to networking with people as much as I used to, I don’t need them so much anymore to access information. I really noticed how isolated I felt when I didn’t have internet access. How sad is that!

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  20. An Idle Dad

    The calculator didn’t destroy mathmatics last time I checked. What it did was free us from pointless boring shit.

    The question to ask is “Does the fact that incorrect information lives forever on Google mean that facts don’t matter anymore”? After all, everyone now can Google ‘facts’. Because facts are now ‘free’, does that make them worthless in public debate?

    Jo Nova, the author of the ludicrous “The Skeptic’s Handbook” believes sciences should be decided by laymen. You read that right – Instead of peer review and experimental duplication, for a fact to be declared ‘true’ or theory ‘reviewed’ a scientist must explain his science to a jury of laymen who also hear from someone who disagrees – then they decided what is the ‘scientific truth’.

    Crazy.

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  21. Zelicat

    Oh it can back fire… My 6 year old desperately wants a harmonica. In an attempt to put her off I have told her I don’t know where to get one. She suggested I google it and order one online

    Double edged sword indeed…
    Now do I tell her I ordered one and when it doesn’t arrive blame the post office???

    P.s after this mornings news bites, I am scared to look at the are sports people heroes post… Talk about a can of crazy.

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    • Anonymous

      Harmonicas are fun!

      And definitely a less annoying instrument than many others. (eg. squeaky recorder…?!)

      PS: agree, I am way too scared to click on that post!

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      • Zelicat

        I am sure she would have hours of fun, but the incessant whistling is doing my head in. Imagine what she could do with a harmonica and our acoustically tiled bathroom…

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        • teaze

          my twenty-four year old fiance started playing with my harmonica in the car yesterday – seeing if he could fit the whole thing in his mouth, how long he can exhale for, how long he can inhale for, can he play anything without using his hands to move the instrument, turning the harmonica around and seeing if it makes noises if played backwards…

          so there are plenty of ways to annoy you with a harmonica, and regardless of whether someone is six years old or an ‘adult’!

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          • Zelicat

            Oh jayzus! I think I would have lost it completely and thrown that harmonica outta the car!

            She has now mentioned it to her dad, who is overseas for the next 6 months and therefore thought was an excellent idea.

            I reckon I have 7-10 days of peace left…

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            • teaze

              hahaha poor thing!

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    • Rick Morton

      I’d steer clear too if you’re after a more gentle Monday of browsing!

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      • zelicat

        Just wanted to say what a good Job you guys are doing. Hope there is lots of chocolate and tea in the office (hugs)

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  22. Petal

    I needed to know how to insert a row in a table in Word the other day so of course, I googled it. You know how it predicts? Well, it came up with ‘How to insert…..a tampon.’ Jesus, I thought, is Google the new Mum? Does this program replace actual conversation with parents/friends/workmates/ teachers/the world? I would like to think not, but geez, it’s heading that way.

    I also have to continually monitor my son’s work for school, to make sure he’s not plagiarising entire projects. Although I suppose we used to do this from books at the libraray. But with the internet, it just seems too easy.

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    • An Idle Dad

      It’s also easier to check for plagerisation, just copy and paste suspect selected text into Google and see what it finds.

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      • Petal

        hehehe….must try that next time he has an assignment!

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  23. lauren91

    To be honest, sometimes I think having so much information available makes it harder. For example, finding sources for a uni assignment. There are SO many, so it takes a long time to wade through them and find the best ones. Sometimes it’s easier to go to the library and get some good old fashioned books!

    Having said that, I’m pretty sure I’d go crazy without the Internet. It seems the days of the phone call are gone, so if people don’t answer texts, Facebook is the first port of call!

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  24. stephaniecuthbert

    It definately helps as a writer- I can research enough about Ancient Egypt for example, to make my children’s time travel story credible, without having to leave my office.
    My 6 year old asks a million questions a day, so we are always googling or wiki-ing. However, we also go to the library every week and she borrows some fiction and non-fiction, and learns how to look books up and locate them. She also owns encyclopedias (and knows how to use an index) and non-fiction topic books.
    I think, as in all things, you just need some balance. The internet is a great tool, but it shouldn’t be the only thing you have in your toolbox.

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    • Rick Morton

      I must say, my favourite thing to do is to just surf the links through Wikipedia as a jumping off point to learn something. Never know where you’ll end up, and always learn something!

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      • An Idle Dad

        Agreed. For a little time I used to go to the wikipedia homepage and simply follow the article of the day.

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      • elky

        I used to do that with the Encyclopaedia Britannica … in printed form. (sigh, who’s feeling old now?)

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    • lauren91

      Completely agree. The Internet is a great thing, but there’s nothing like sitting down with a good book!!

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  25. jillian

    Have you read “The Shallows” by Nicolas Carr? It’s about this very thing. For me, I think the Internet has definitely made some friendships more “shallow” – is clicking on a “like” button really keeping us in touch? Probably not when I used to get indepth emails about life from that person, but now juts a status update and a picture posted. One thing is for sure, we all adapt…

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    • Rick Morton

      I link to one of his essays in this! I find it all very fascinating.

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      • jillian

        whoops! Sorry, didn’t click through. I’m far too busy and shallow to read in-depth. ;)

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  26. Darcy

    It hasn’t much changed studying at Uni, I don’t think. Or at least the exam part of it. You still need to remember information for the exam. And then of course forget it all straight after it. And there isn’t that much that you can use for assignment references. But it definitely has made it easier. Being able to access databases at home means that I haven’t had to go to the library at all. I guess you just need to know what information is appropriate.

    I swear the words I use most are “Google it”.

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    • lauren91

      Lol yep, gone are the days of “look it up in the dictionary”, “Google it” seems to be the way to go!

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  27. Lorren

    Liked the first half of the article but can’t comment on the rest cause I was reading some ppl’s responses before leaving my own.

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  28. Wendy

    It certainly makes the kids’ homework assignments easier, because they don’t have to trot off to the library to get information.

    However, I sometimes wonder how much the kids retain when they can cut and paste the relevant text into their assignments…

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    • Katrina D

      Yes Wendy I feel the same. My son is in Year 7 and most of his assignments are spent “googling” information and, for all intents and purposes, cutting and pasting it. In my day we had to go to the library, photocopy the page in the encyclopaedia, and then handwrite the bits out we wanted to use, in our own words of course. Kids these days don’t do that, it’s all too easy!

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    • Faybian

      I must be so mean, I make my 11 year old figure out how to put things in her own words so I know that she understands it…. Still, it’s a bit different to my day (encyclopedia brittanica) or my 24 year old ((encyclopedia brittanica online CDs)….

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    • Anonymous

      I actually think the internet has made it harder. Now kids have to sift through a ton of info, whereas all I had to do was open the relevant textbook to the chapter or sometimes even the page the teacher told us to.

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  29. Laws for Clouds

    When you get into a debate at a dinner party, everyone pulls out their phones and googles the topic at hand. Do you think this spoils the fun or adds to it? Isn’t it fun to bandy about an idea a little, considering a few possibilities, rather than just saying ‘this is it’?

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    • Rick Morton

      Even despite that, Google has never really solved an argument for my friends and I as ours tend to be philosophical or religious!

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      • Laws for Clouds

        The argument I’m thinking of was what year did Toto release the song ‘Africa’. We were all trying to remember what we were doing that year (I was in utero) and getting some interesting anecdotes when someone googled it. End discussion.

        Not quite as deep as religion or politics, but since they were a motley of different citizens I was keen to know what it was like in England/South Africa/America at the time.

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  30. GG

    As a mum with an inquiring 4yo mind to keep informed – there are so many things he asks on a daily basis that I cannot definitively answer – so we use the internet…. so when he asks things like – “what do XYZs (insert obscure animal) eat” usually in the car…. and my response is ‘I am not sure’ he further responds ‘Don’t worry Mum we will just google it’. I think this is a good way to ensure we don’t tell half truths to our kids or crush their curiosity but telling them to stop asking so many questions (which I have heard!)

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    • Rick Morton

      I remember the moment I realised my mum was just making up answers to some of the questions I asked as a young’un. But really, what choice did she have? She didn’t exactly have a smart phone in 1990!

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      • Peta

        Did your Mum go down the “Emporer Nazi Goreng built it to keep the rabbits out” route? I surprised myself the other day when I told my 2 year old her finger would fall off if she keeps picking her nose. And then, in the same day I told my 4 year old her bottom would get blocked if she swallows bubble gum. Never thought I would repeat the lines my parents used!!

        And it obviously didn’t work anyway – my 2 year old continued picking and my 4 year old swallowed the gum!

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  31. ladybird73

    Ummm I don’t really have anything to say about this but I thought I would comment anyway in case you decide what kind of articles to write based on how many comments they get!
    I just want to register that I love this type of article, I think it’s interesting and I was glad to read it but I don’t have anything to add.

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    • Rick Morton

      Comments are but one measure of what we choose to write about. It’s funny because high comments does not often equal high traffic and vice versa. But thank you!

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  32. A different dee

    What abour our ability to criticaly evaluate all the information on the internet?

    We certainly have access to the most information ever, but its not all necesarily accurate or relevant.

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    • Rick Morton

      That’s the kicker I reckon. Are we actually analysing information anymore or just taking it at face value? Hmmm…

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      • A different dee

        I guess it depends on the individual, and the kind of info they are looking for.

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  33. Anonymous

    One of my favourite things about the internet, particularly my iphone is that when I am wandering around the supermarket and decide I want to make something, I can whip out the iphone and google the recipe so I know what ingredients to buy.

    Small pleasures hehe!

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    • Rick Morton

      I was doing this the other day. Standing in the store Googling ‘what herbs go with smoked salmon’. It was very useful. Oh my word it was.

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      • Jane

        I do that too! I looked up a lamb shank recipe that ive made before, (accessed the recipe on my phone the first time) so just looked it up again whilst shopping….
        my favourite food blogger (the only food blog i read actually) uses a net based notes app for gathering recipes…genius…

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      • lt

        Dill. The herb that is.

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        • The girl from the carnival

          I have just come here after reading the Cadel post.

          THANK YOU for making me laugh out loud.

          And Rick, agree with the comment above how this is a really great post.

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  34. Kevman

    Definitely has made us all a bit dumber, and my attention span sucks. But it has also made us vastly more aware of world issues and news than anyone could have imagined 20 or 30 years ago.

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  35. Kerr

    I think the internet has made us meaner. The anonymity of the net means there is so much stuff on there most people wouldn’t say to someones face. People get caught up in the herd mentality of being cruel and because people don’t know who they are, feel they can be pretty harsh. There are loads of examples of bullying on FB, whole sites dedicated to slamming people, to racism, to defaming the dead and some of the responses to Amy Winehouse’s death over the weekend really highlight this. I think good things about the internet too but I do think the internet has given people a medium to express the worst in themselves.

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    • I don’t think people are any meaner than they used to be…but as you mentioned, mean people just have a bigger public forum to express their views than they used to…

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      • Kerr

        I think people who ordinarily would not be mean and would keep their opinion to themselves can get caught up in being part of a wider group of people who all feel the same way. It’s one thing to stand up and say your opinion as the only one who believes it, and another to add your voice to the hundreds already there. It’s giving credibility to your view. The mob mentality is a funny thing. Look at all the people who loot during disasters who might never ever steal anything in real life, or the riots that pull people along who wouldn’t normally be involved. I think the net can do the same thing. So whether there are more mean people, or just all the people who were secretly mean and are not vocally mean before, I don’t know. What I do know is that this stuff scares me for my kids.

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        • amykeep

          I agree. Seen any keyboard warriors around today????

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    • Rick Morton

      I’ve been dealing with abuse and nastiness all weekend. Not directed to me, but others and it’s just not cool. I see what you mean.

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      • Kerr

        It’s unbelievable and so sad some of the things people say. The rules of normal interaction don’t apply on the net. It’s one of the reasons I like this site especially the news stuff. Some of the comments on other news sites can just get so nasty and theres no moderation.

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        • Rick Morton

          I was just talking about this, this morning with Idle Dad. The tone of a forum is largely set by example and by moderating out the ugliness. Mamamia does this well I reckon and I have never seen as reasonable debate as we have here anywhere else. It’s kind of cool :)

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          • An Idle Dad

            The blog post I linked to you should become an article on MM – I should get a byline. And a job. What say you?

            *I may have misspelt byline. Is it biline? I must google it…

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            • Rick Morton

              It’s byline. The line that is ‘by’. And yes, it’s fascinating! But you did not write it … for shame!

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            • An Idle Dad

              See! The age of Google is MAKING us dumb, yet not using Google makes you LOOK dumb.

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  36. Naz

    This post is very timely for me. Recently I’ve been thinking about how I don’t do the things I used to because of the Internet, for e.g. I used to read all the time and be able to finish a book in a day or two but now I find myself constantly having a need to check Facebook or some other site and have been stuck on one book for over a month now! So I made the decision today to deactivate my FB so I could get rid of one distraction at least and get to reading my books! Btw if you haven’t read it get The immortal life of Henrietta Lacks. Such a fascinating read. I must admit though that I am a bit of a google freak I google EVERYTHING! Gosh I remember the days of encyclopedias having to physically look something up in a book. I hate to think what the next generation will be like, no more book stores, kindles and iPads in hand when reading books, no writing by hand everyone typing, using search engines for assignments, everything online with computers.

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    • I think the future gen will just be different to us old fogeys…not better or worse..

      But in my day…

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      • Naz

        Yes different for sure!

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    • Mel

      I have gone pretty much exactly through the same process in the last few weeks, going to deactivate facey in a few days!

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      • Naz

        I didn’t realise how addicted I was until today when I kept going to my phone to check and realised oh I’ve deactivated. I’m going to see how much I can get done now :)

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        • Mel

          I haven’t actually been that bad this holidays, but I’m deactivating it just in time for uni semester and hopefully I get way less distracted when I’m studying or doing assignments.

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  37. I don’t think the Internet has made me any smarter or dumber…I just have access to more information than I used to…so what!

    …but I can tell you this. Videos of a chimp smelling its poo-encrusted finger are funny!

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