Earlier this year a disgusting and degrading ‘initiation ceremony’ at Sydney University’s St John’s College left a teenage girl in hospital, fighting for her life.
But Weekend media has reported that:
Eight months on, nothing has changed. Police have been called to investigate widespread vandalism including smashed windows and doors, furniture broken or set on fire, and graffiti. Human faeces are routinely found in common areas and bedrooms.
Every second Friday, the student committee has decreed that all male St John’s student not speak to any female students – who are known as ”Jets”: the term is an acronym for ”Just Excuse The Slag”.
Freshers are still being forced into initiation rituals, including the consumption of toxic drinks. And some senior students are showing a cavalier disregard for the fallout from the poisoned girl’s near-death, and have even printed T-shirts that celebrate the incident.
Enough is enough: That’s the message to the students of St John’s from the Catholic Archbishop of Sydney, Cardinal George Pell today. ”Turmoil and bitter division have continued at the college for months, even after two independent reviews. Community life must be stabilised and a measure of peace restored,” Cardinal Pell said.
Freelance Journalist Zoe Arnold was part of the inaugural year of women students at St Johns in 2001 and she shared her memories of College life with Mamamia:
“I don’t exactly remember the moment I realised life at St John’s College wasn’t for me. Maybe it was after witnessing the spectacle of flaming “man-ginas”, where brutish young Johnians would set alight their pubic hair in front of a bellowing, chanting crowd as some kind of test of their manhood. Maybe it was after watching the beautiful, heritage listed library being drowned in beer and then used as a slip ‘n’ slide as another drunken night in house got underway.
I hadn’t been exposed to bastardisation rituals before going to College, and thankfully, I haven’t been exposed to them since.
As a naïve 17 year old, I packed my bags and left home without looking back – excited to be accepted to St John’s in their first year of taking women students. I was also accepted into the only other co-ed College on campus, but took my chances on this unknown venture – knowing it would be tough, perhaps – but also a chance to be part of history.
Binge drinking was only part of the problem at St John’s, and certainly not unique to that College. Other friends on campus told me of their drinking rituals, which involved swimming the length of a pool, downing a shot of alcohol, then swimming another length before eating something disgusting – a raw egg, or a dry weetbix – the challenge was to see how long one could continue before vomiting.
A former boss of mine was an Old Boy at another College, and gained the moniker “Toxic” – for the taste of his vomit. Not his judgement on contents of his stomach, but his fellow Collegiate mates who would drink enough to throw up, then taste each others sick. I’m sure their parents would be proud.
There was no doubt when I started as one of 30-something young women (all in our late teens) at St John’s we were resented and not appreciated by the ‘boys’. This is not to say some Johnians didn’t welcome our arrival: they did. Some of them became close friends and boyfriends. But the overt sexism was somewhat stifling and was part of the reason I left before my year was up.
Don’t get me wrong, I participated. I drank until I threw up and there are nights that are a fuzzy haze when I try and remember how I crawled home. But the endless drinking games, and pressure to be permanently wasted got boring and unimaginative. The culture of drinking, to be one of the boys, was constant. As were the overt attempts to make the women feel uncomfortable.
Someone made the poor choice to keep our bathrooms unisex – fine in theory – but not great when you regularly walked in on one of your male collegiates emptying their bowels with the door of the cubicle wide open. It’s funny, I never saw a woman doing the same, or changing a tampon in the open. Let’s be honest: it would be unimaginable.
The morbid fascination with faeces seemed to extend beyond the toilet; on several occasions I found a turd sitting proudly in the middle of a shower cubicle – clearly it wasn’t put there by mistake. Or the hilarious ritual of boys pooing in each others shoes outside their bedroom doors in the dead of night – an hilarious surprise when you went to get ready the next day.
I had some lovely friends at St John’s: both men and women. But for me, I felt compelled to fit-in a culture that I didn’t sit comfortably with, and when I’d had enough of drinking myself to near-death or when I questioned the animalistic bathroom habits of my fellow Johnians I felt like I was the odd one out.
I don’t know the Rector at St John’s these days. But any attempt to clean up the culture of binge-drinking, to stop the harassment of young women, is a good thing in my opinion. It’s high time College life looked beyond the keg for a night’s entertainment and stopped the all-encompassing pressure that to have fun you have to be wasted.”
Zoe is a freelance journalist and voiceover artist. She works predominately in radio, dabbles in print, and can often be seen with a latte in one hand and a phone in the other. Find her on Twitter here.
Have you ever been involved in a drinking culture like this? Were your uni or school days anything like this?








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I love this SMH story today, uncovering the ‘fresher’ who’s actually a third year.
They’re not a terribly bright lot, are they, these St John’s students?
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fake-fresher-st-johns-student-lied-to-abc-to-protect-colleges-reputation-20121106-28vd6.html
The boys who appealed against the decision to get them to perform a scant amount of community service should be ashamed of themselves, as should the parents who kicked up a fuss and got them off the hook. It’s disheartening to know that these boys do not have parents who allow them to take the consequences of their actions without running to hide behind Mummy’s skirts.
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Oh please. The church refuse to act against child rapists. Why on earth do you think they will act against misogyny and a vile drinking culture?
My son attends a catholic school, through no decision of mine, and it makes me sick in my mouth to think about it.
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I went to uni at Bathurst and, while obviously the typical uni drinking culture is there too, I never had or heard of anyone having problems in their colleges in regards to men being inappropriate, sexist etc to the girls. All of the colleges there are co-ed and all of us, boys and girls, were friends.
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Have you seen the footage of Tony Abbott laughing about this? It is his old college. When asked if he behaved that way at college he laughed and kept laughing. Wow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYJO-Gjr4rg&feature=youtu.be
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Abbot’s response is a clear indication that he is a product of this culture… is it any surprise that he behaves so disgracefully? How many of those chaps are members of the Sydney Uni Liberals? Alan Jones at their function…no surprises there.
Of course it won’t happen, but Abbot and Hockey should resign from parliament, for simply being exposed as members of this dubious fraternity. How do we expect to have public figures and political leaders of integrity when they are products of such vile origins?
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I went to a UQ college, and during O Week was forced to sit on a bus whilst an all boy college sang a song called ‘Ya Ho’ in our faces – the verses described putting a girl a cupboard and just taking her out for sex when they wanted and worse.
This all boys college would also in O week get their O week committee to point at First Year girls and play the game called ‘Fruit Salad’ where they would point at attractive girls and say ‘peach’ and then point at ‘unattractive girls’ and call out ‘pineapple’ in front of everyone – a highly humiliating experience for any 17 year old girl.
Being a 17 year old from a small country town and having a feminist mother I was absolutely horrified at how we were treated, and the older girls from my college who were supposed to be looking after us, just let it happen. I guess wanting to seem ‘cool’ to the boys.
Whilst I did experience some absolutely disgusting and inexcusable behaviour at college (mainly from all boys colleges who seem to be conditioned to think they are God’s gift and treat girls horribly), there were definitely some boys who had been brought up right and were not brain washed into this disgusting behaviour. A lot of them were very uncomfortable with what they were made to do.
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Yet another set of disgraceful exaggerations and lies that come out in “hindsight”. I am a female at a USyd College and I am proud to be part of the intercollegiate system. The vast majority of students come from hard working country families who want to give their children the best chance in life that they can.
The latest SMH article is yet again either full of hyperbole or lies… I can absolutely guarantee that none of my friends at Johns are keen to poo in the places that they sleep in, there is no “Justice Group”, and that “shutting it down and kicking them out” will just leave 400 people homeless.
There are awful people in every workplace and walk of life. They aren’t tolerated or accepted any more at College. And for everyone that keeps spewing the TONY ABBOTT JOE HOCKEY WENT THERE line… Labor darling Frank Sartor enjoyed a tenure at the College too.
For everyone who is preaching about the lack of tolerance and acceptance at College, the idea that coming from a private all-boys school means you are “an ignorant,close-minded douchebag”. Thanks, Honi Soit, for letting me know that because my parents worked their rear ends off to educate me well, I am a horrible person.
Wouldn’t it be great if people could stick to talking about what they know about people who they know.
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Well said and I absolutely agree.
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Also I forgot to add that ‘jet’ stands for Johnette as in a female Johnsmen. The ladies at Johns invented this term and call themselves Jets with pride. I have never heard of the accronym reported in this article. Again, don’t believe everything you read…
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Jet isn’t an acronym – Johnsmen are called Choppers (because it is a Catholic college) and so were the women at the Catholic female college next door (Sancta Sophia).
When St John’s became co-ed the ‘Chopper’ tag for women was already taken, so the women at John’s (Johnsladies?) became Jets. As in, helicopter, airplane…
There were plenty of sexist (and worse) things that went on at John’s but the nickname Jet wasn’t one of them…
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I attended Johns College between 2006-2009. I had a fabulous time there and have many great memories. The boys in my year were like brothers to me and we are still great friends today. They treated my girlfriends and I with the greatest respect. Yes there were parties, formals, informals, drinking in our rooms, drinking at the college pub and pubs in the area every wed night (college night) but social drinking like this is to be expected from most people in their late teens and early 20′s. It was great being part of a community and I think it’s fabulous that people from rural areas can come into a situation where you have instant friends rather than renting a studio/apartment by yourself when starting uni and moving to Sydney. I think it’s a real shame the college is receiving so much negative press. Everyone I know who attended johns had lots of positive experiences. My good friend (a female) was elected as house president of the students in 2010 so I think this clearly shows that women at the college are treated as equals. People shouldn’t believe everything that they read…
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My sister is at one of the other colleges at sydney uni (i’ll be going there next year as a postgrad). There is a binge drinking culture in all the colleges, but Johns is seen as the “feral wild one where all the country kids go”. It’s not just Johns where this is happening, but apparently its the worst there.
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Somewhat recently, a few college residents were temporarily excluded (for a few months or so) from John XXIII college at ANU in Canberra for hauling the carcass of a dead pig into someone’s room there.
People like that don’t belong at university, they belong in the wild.
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I think these stories are just the polite tip of the iceberg. I remember hearing of one initation ceremony at St John’s that involved having to swallow the contents of a used condom and being in trouble if you vomitted. What delightful young men.
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My first thought? The example George Pell sets is one of making up your own rules and refusing to abide by other people’s – ie, the church will deal with rapist pedophile priests in its own way, not the way that any other member of the community would be dealt with.
Why should students at a school affiliated with him behave differently? They want to make their own rules, as their seniors do.
Probably not particularly fair and balanced. Still, priests in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
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That’s not true. George Pell is strongly opposed to the thuggery at Johns. But the law gives the council (of old boys) total control over the college, including the college manager.
Last week Pell cleverly neutralised the council by instructing the priests on the council to resign. This leaves the council without legal authority.
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I went to a college too at the tender age of 17. I was far too young and naive to be thrown into that environment. As a young, shy girl from a small country town I felt forced into the binge-drinking culture to feel part of the crowd. The sexism there was nothing short of despicable and females were treated as objects and nothing else. I feel ashamed and embarrassed at some of the things I felt forced into doing (with lots of alcohol and naivety clouding my judgement) and wish I was strong enough to be myself.
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I spent 3 years at a residential college at Uni. There was a growing culture of this kind of bullshit, as those who wanted to be spoilt brats claiming it was “college tradition” to be such boors.
While I made a lot of good friends at college and (as evidenced by sticking it out 3 years) I did enjoy myself, I also witnessed a lot of shittybehaviour and earned either disgust or respect from The Boys as I refused to be silent about misogyny, bad behaviour and dangerous drinking behaviour.
As much as the boorishness was unpleasant, the fact that a lot of the heavy drinking clique would actually listen to me and say that the y respected me for saying “this is not ok” gave me some hope that all was not entirely lost for them.
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Disgusting.
Im so sick of this binge drinking chain smoking culture. You dont need that toxic shit to have fun, you dont need to act like a jackass to win peer approval or attract the opposite sex.
College life seems to be very similar to watching monkeys in the zoo throwing poo at each other.
Have fun, have a good time, enjoy life… But do it without the sexism, arrogant attitudes & acting like a complete and utter disgusting sloth.
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So many generalisations!
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So many generalisations!
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Well said Nicole!
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The culture of Johns and other colleges isn’t horrible just because of their attitude toward women. A lot of young men are unable to thrive in this intimidatory sort of environment. Practical joking is one thing, humiliating and ridiculing others is not.
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I thought the same thing. Maybe it’s just getting more attention now?
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Having lived on campus for many years myself, I can tell you it wasnt a case of the girls all being these perfect angels intent on study and only study, and all the boys being evil incarnate intent on only annoyance. Many of the girls were as horribly behaved, drunk and inapropriate as the boys. They too have to take responsibility for their actions.
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You should have gone to St Andrews! I spent three amazing years there, and I hate that the college name is being tarnished because of a small group. Most students who attend college are smart, dedicated to their studies and also love to party. It makes me sad that this is what people think of when they hear Sydney University and college in the same sentence.
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I can’t help but wonder if there is any connection between college behaviour and the fact that, at $455 a week (plus an obviously not insignificant amount on booze!) college life is a luxury restricted to a privileged few. I knew my parents didn’t have the wealth and power to get me out of the kind of trouble that behaviour causes – and quite frankly between working to pay my expenses and studying to make sure I would get a decent job at the end (parents couldn’t help there either) I didn’t have time for that crap!
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sorry kat but my daughter attends college and we are just ordinary working parents that are supporting her unfortunately the government doesnt give us much choice.
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How about she gets a job while she she supports herself through uni like most people
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I don’t think many uni students aged 17-22 working casual hours and studying full time would be able to ‘support themselves’ through uni… Paying normal rent, bills and living expenses requires more than 15-20 hrs work per week at $15-20 an hour, which is probably the most a student studying an intensive course like Law or Medicine could earn. There is no way I could have gotten through uni without my parents’ help.
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Plenty of us, including myself, do just that.
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Are you serious? $455 a week each? Wow.
To anyone reading this and thinking about accommodation options whilst at uni…I think you’d be better off sharing with like minded students, nearby to campus. You start off not knowing anyone whether you do the college thing or whether you sharehouse anyway….can’t think of anything worse than being trapped in that environment day in and day out….trying to study!
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$455 a week includes accommodation, all meals, cleaning and laundry and use of all college facilities. So whilst it might seem a lot just for rent it isn’t just for rent. For families who don’t live in Sydney, they’d probably pay at least that much for rent and food, so college is actually a good option. It’s just such a shame that the environment is so toxic!
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$309 a week for the same at my uni.
I could have rented my old place in Leichhardt at the rent I was paying ($320) and fed myself and laundered my clothes and paid my phone and internet and serviced a car loan for that! A share house around there would be nowhere near $455 a week per person.
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But it is also only for the time during term. Most leases you need to continue paying rent the full 12 months, whereas college you are only paying for around 30 weeks of the year. When my parents and I did the calculations *mumble* years ago (different city – different college) it came out to be a little more but not significantly more.
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I have lived in college dorms in Canberra and London, but never experienced anything like this. Both colleges I lived in were unisex and with shared bathrooms.
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I lived in a college at uni for a while, same – co-ed, shared bathrooms and decks with no dramas. Then I went to Sydney uni, and oh my the difference. It was ridiculous!
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These posh bogans are the future leaders of Australia, supposedly.
What a pleasant thought…..
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I lived on college at UQ before leaving at the end of my first year. Everything revolved around drinking, and I felt a bit left out if I didn’t want to drink like a sailor and act like a lout (I will have a quiet few drinks, but binge drinking has never interested me). Not to mention that I felt that the emphasis was far more on drinking and social activities than on actual uni work. I was studying Law so I needed all the study time I could get.
I honestly think that part of the problem is that most (NOT ALL) College residents are rich kids – spoilt brats who come from that (generally pretty horrid) private school background which encourages bastardisation and exclusion. A lot of them had been boarders when they were in school and I think they had discipline problems. Yes, big generalisation I know – but hardly any of the residents of my college had jobs and for most of them, life was one big party.
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I went to college and I have many friends who go to colleges outside of my university. We all went to private school – none of us are rich and we’ve all been working since high school.
Its generalisations like yours that make it hard for people like us.
I come from a (very) small town where the local high school presented no opportunities. I would not be where I was today without it, and I wouldn’t be able to study at university if it wasn’t for colleges.
When you move to a new place the most obvious place to live is the one where you will be given support.
Yes there was a drinking culture – I’m a country girl who’s first exposure to alcohol was at the races and a B&S. I never felt like I had to join in.
I think a few is outweighing the whole in a situation like this.
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Thank you Hannah. We have sent our daughter away to boarding school, for the reasons you have outlined, we are in a small rural area with very limited opportunities. We are farming, and are not rich (in fact the last 10 years or so have not been very profitable at all) – but we have made our children’s education our main priority. I certainly hope we have raised our children to have good work ethics and values. I too am tired of generalisations about private schools. The truth is there are all kinds of different people – good & bad, wherever you go.
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If you didn’t go to a private school how would you know? I’m jack of these stupid generalisations that just because you go to a private school (and no my parents’ were not rich – lower middle class) you are susceptible to behaving like a dickhead.
So I can safely assume that because you didn’t go to a private school that you are bogan who just got lucky?? or am I making silly generalisations here??
And for the record I used to work with this dickhead who later became my boss who went to St John’s and he went to the local regional Catholic school in town. Hardly Riverview or Joeys. He lived in the past and behaved and drank accordingly like he never left. This story explains so much as to why he was.
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A lot of people who go to private school are financially supported by their parents at uni – whether rich or poor, because of a family emphasis on education. Because they often don’t have to work long hours to pay for their food/accomm/fees, they have more time to get up to mischief.
(I’ve attended both public and private schools)
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I went to Catholic schools for 12 years, and I too came from a regional area. I decided to live on College because – like so many – I thought it would offer me more support than just moving to the big city and living on my own or with random flatmates.
I can only speak from my experience obviously, but I stand behind what I originally wrote as those were my observations.
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I know that other university colleges around Australia are similar. The drinking is inexplicably constant. The reason that I decided to live in town!
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I went to sydney university from 1993-96. I see the behaviour of college boys hasn’t improved in all that time. What a disgusting shame.
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Yup, I was there 88 to 94 on and off and they were exactly the same then. Almost a quarter of a century and they don’t appear to have made any progress.
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