Before the sun breaches the horizon, a lone bugle will sound ‘The Last Post’.
It’s the final farewell…a message for the fallen; your job is done, rest in peace.
And then – in the darkness – we’ll fall silent.
…… Because the words thank you will never be enough.
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The ANZAC spirit and our nation’s identity were forged on the shores of Gallipoli in 1915.
Nearly a century later and ANZAC Day….well, it’s a great day off. A chance to sleep in and not think about work.
Some Aussies will flick past the parade on the TV and give a passing thought to what ANZAC Day means.
Some might even head out to a parade or a dawn service. Who doesn’t love a chance for a game of two-up and a beer at 10 in the morning?
For some, it’s a day of community and respect. A day to be proud of our history.
Can I tell you what ANZAC Day means to me?
ANZAC Day is not just for the fallen. It’s also for the battle weary; men and women who came home, and brought the war with them.
It’s for my hero – my husband. A man who has left me behind, countless times. A man who changes, just a little bit, every time he comes home. The man who still looks like the boy-band heartthrob I met at 18, but who can never tell me what he’s seen or what he’s done.
On this one day of the year, he doesn’t have enquiring faces searching his eyes for signs of damage. He’s with his mates, who never need to ask. They already know.
On ANZAC Day, I see the snowy hair and lined faces, I see the biker jackets and the tatts, I see the clean cut boys and girls who are still enlisted – all smiling on “their” day, backslapping and reminiscing – but all carrying a scar that only their mates can see…. they see the battleground in the eyes of their brothers and sisters in arms.
It makes me want to say:
“What you went through was more than we should ever ask of a fellow human being.
While I can’t fully grasp what you did or how it changed the way I live today, I want to say thank you for doing it.
Thank you for leaving your family, your friends and your home.
Thank you for travelling for months on end, to sit in a pit of horror and watch your mates die around you, while you wait for your own end to come.
Thank you for doing that, even though you might not have known what you were getting yourself in for, or maybe you had no choice.
Maybe you hated every minute and cried silently at night wishing with every cell in your body that you could go home and be safe and warm again.
Maybe you hated yourself for being weak enough to want your Mum.
Maybe you think you made no difference because when you came home, you were spat on and called a child murderer.
I wish I could take that back for you. I know you were just doing what you were asked to do. What you were told to do. I’m sorry if we ever made you feel otherwise.
And to our newest diggers; I’m sorry if we don’t acknowledge that it’s hard for you too. I’m sorry that we don’t give you credit for the work you’re doing. I’m sorry that we talk more about Australia’s insignificance and futility instead of talking about your progress and contribution.
I’m sorry we never take a moment, to honour your mates, before using their deaths as a reason to start polling public support for the war.
You’ve faced an entirely new kind of warfare. You’ve fought an invisible enemy. They don’t wear uniforms. They don’t rest at night. They’re everywhere and nowhere and your life could end at any second without warning. They can reach you from the safety of a mountaintop, kilometres away. They can reach you with every step you take on roads, littered with explosives. That’s a torture we can never understand; our generations’ shellshock.
I hope, one day, we’ll know how much you did and the difference you made. Then we’ll stop questioning the politics and just say….. thank you.”
General Douglas Macarthur said: “The soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war.”
They’re the ones who are haunted by sights, sounds and smells that we will never know. They’ve driven down dirt roads in the Middle East, not knowing which direction they could be hit from. Knowing that each metre of ground crossed, brings new threat from below.
They’ve faced kids, the age of their own children, who’ve turned weapons on them. Tiny faces that haunt them.
But they’re the ones who can say, without a doubt, that they’re making a difference. It’s why they go back. They don’t enjoy it. They feel it’s the right thing to do. It’s what they’re driven to do. For us.
It’s why they feel so alone when they hear us say we don’t really care, or that we think our forces are useless over there…
It’s hard to comprehend how they’ve made our lives better. We’re spoilt enough that we’ve never had to learn the alternative.
So, even though you’re probably in desperate need of a good sleep in and you’re dreaming of sitting in your PJs until 3pm watching old movies – just take a moment to think of our brave men and women.
And if you do make it out of the house. Buy a digger a beer. Ask where they served. Talk to them about what they remember. Their pride can be heartbreaking; and you might just feel some pride yourself.
Let them know we haven’t forgotten them. We never will.
Lest we forget.
Lauren Dubois is Mamamia’s Canberra-based political contributor. You can follow her on Twitter here.
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I don’t think Yumi Stynes would agree with you
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I have followed all your articles that you have written for Mamamia Lauren, and this has to be the MOST inspiring and passionate article yet!!
As Rebecca says “some people are just mean spirited”, they have no soul and are only interested in tearing people down.
Keep up the wonderful work we all appreciate it!
P.S. Our thanks always to your husband.
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Beautiful writing Lauren. Incredibly touching. Thank you for sharing.
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Thanks Lauren for such a lovely article. I don’t really care if you say Anzac or ANZAC,an English lesson on proper nouns and acronyms isn’t really the message of the article.
xxx,you may be very grammatically correct but you are also very mean spirited.
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If you were really interested in the Anzac legend you’d know that Anzac isn’t spelt in capitals based on the letters the diggers sent home referring to themselves as an Anzac…a proper noun and not an acronym. It really frustrates me when, on days such as today, people start writing this clichéd, whimsical crap, full of pathetic metaphors.
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So you never learnt that ANZAC stands for “Australia and New Zealand Army Corps”? Both usages are acceptable. Time to get over yourself.
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I’m sorry you find my own experience so incredibly vexing. And you’ll excuse me if I find your comment petty and prosaic.
I’ve used ANZAC Day because that’s what the Australian War Memorial chooses to use. If I’d referred to a person as an Anzac, I would have used the lower case version.
So I’ll disregard your writing lesson. Ta.
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As an proud “Army brat” and granddaughter, daughter, cousin and friend of veternans, I’d like to thank you Lauren for such a beautifully written article.
I have so much admiration an respect for not only our past and preent serving members, but the women like you; the families left behind. Thank you.
Lest we forget.
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I would just like to share my Anzac day experience.
In the lead up this week, with the news stories and ads I have watched my husbands mood grow darker, watch him draw further and further into himself, in the last 24 hours, I have had a handful of words from him. He is drinking, in that awful drinking to get drunk way. He drinks so he can fall asleep. When he sleeps he calls out in his nightmares, and suffers night terrors where he is awake, but can’t move. He is moody and irritable likely to snap at strangers and family alike. He is hurting, and he is mourning friends killed in a war he doesn’t see a way to win, and fears that in a short time the difference made will be undone. He has served 23 years in the army, been deployed to
Bosnia, east Timor, Iraq (6 tours) and Afghanistan. He is 40 years old a young man still. He does not attend the dawn service, he does not march. This afternoon he will meet with mates and most likely get rip roaring drunk he won’t be home until tomorrow. He calls this “coping”
This morning I went to the dawn service alone this morning sitting next to me was a Vietnam vet, who saw my service medal and started chatting. Complete strangers, we shared a blanket and a thermos of coffee, and spoke about the difference in our experiences of training ( 40 years apart! ) and places we had both been posted. We spoke about my partner, and the vet told me how it had taken him 20 years after his return to start attending the dawn service. When the service started we both burst into tears, and held each others hand.
As the sun rose, and the service concluded we wished each other well, and went our separate ways.
This is what Anzac day means to me. It is a day of mourning, and as part of that mourning we remember the good things as well. The mate ship and the comradery, the duty and the sacrifice.
The veterans remember everyday. The families remember every day. Let ANZAC day be the one day that the rest of Australia remembers too.
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Anon, I promise to remember yours and your husband’s story on Anzac Days in the future xo
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it’s so easy to look back on the wars Australia has fought and criticize the motives and actual achievements of them. We need to remember that soldiers at the time did not have the benefit of hindsight.
Most of them, I think, were just doing what they believed was right at the time.(or they were conscripted..) Many were just kids. Today is about honoring their courage, bravery, and sacrifice.
We can (and should) leave the critical analysis for another day. Our fallen and returned soldiers deserve this one day of remembrance.
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Thank you Lauren for this beautiful article.
I am currently living in PNG and took the opportunity today to attend the dawn service at the Bomana War Cemetary which is the final resting place of over 3000 soldiers who died in PNG during the Second World War. Members of the Australian, PNG and New Zealand Defence force were there as well as 4 of the Diggers. It was a truly moving experience and it sent chills down my spine to see the head stones of all those loved ones who never made it home. Its easy to take the Australian way of life for granted. ANZAC Day is about taking the time to reflect on how lucky we are and to thank those people who are brave and passionate enough to serve thier country.
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I’ve just come back from our local dawn service with my contingent of school students, who laid a wreath at our memorial. It was a beautiful, solemn, respectful service absolutely packed full of veterans, service men and women, families, kids and the local community.
So after that wonderful experience, I come home, log into Facebook and find ANZAC Day has been hi-jacked by a group called ‘Save Australian Culture’ who have photoshopped images of diggers, poppies and so on and have them sitting alongside their Labor Party hating, ‘illegal boat people’ racist rants.
This is the side of ANZAC Day I detest – along with my dad who was a Vietnam veteran. Note to the bogan haters: don’t appropriate this day to push your detested views and disguise them as patriotism.
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I don’t think one extreme hijacks the day more than the other. There are those who deride Australian culture, call soldiers bloodthirsty murderers, say we’re the lapdags of the warmongering US, and are determined to crush any honourable pride we have. This gives rise to the other extreme and they do what they can to fight back. It becomes a vicious circle with no winners. Extremism of any kind is a concern. The more young Australians are made to feel like invaders in their own country, the stronger they will push back. It does no-one any good.
United we stand, divided we fall.
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I’d like to see your evidence of the so-called ‘other side’ and young Australians feeling like invaders in their own country. What a load of rubbish. Tabloid media loves to beat this up, as do groups like Save Australian Culture. Maybe you watch too much Today Tonight.
If you saw the march on the ABC today there were many nations represented by former citizens who now call Australia home but whom, at the time, were fighting for their own countries and against ‘us’. They were welcomed and applauded, just the same as the Australian marchers.
Australians did not have a monopoly on Gallipoli. Other nations were there. Indian troops were there in large numbers but who talks about that or even knows? And what gave Australia the right to own ANZAC – the NZ does stand for New Zealand. It is about them too.
My original point was – and still is – let this be a day of solemn rememberance. The haters and bigots are not welcome here.
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I have no idea where you’re coming from with that comment. You sound hysterical and insulting. I’ve never watched Today Tonight in my life, I don’t understand what you’re talking about. Most of my reading is left leaning and there is an obvious push to undermine any national pride. Constant talk and teaching of the ‘invasion’ is not ‘progressive,’ it is damaging and it is rabid.
Aside from that – beautiful sentiments, Lauren, on a melancholy day. At the dawn ceremony this morning there was a Chinese man and his little boy and a friend with her half Japanese daughter. In fact, looking around the crowd, there were people from many ethnic backgrounds. All grateful to be living in a country as close to paradise on Earth as it’s possible to be. And all welcomed and given refuge.
God Bless our soldiers and their families.
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‘Most of my reading is left leaning and there is an obvious push to undermine any national pride. Constant talk and teaching of the invasion is not progressive’.
Okay – you’re a touch off the topic discussing aboriginal issues. For what it’s worth – it was an invasion, like it or not. Europeans were not the first settlers. This country was not ‘terra nullius’. But this is a topic for another day – Australia Day perhaps.
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Let’s remember to keep it civil, thanks.
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So proud of my beautiful cousin! What a lovely piece of writing. We should all be proud and thankful to all who have served and will continue to serve to protect our beautiful country.
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Thanks Lauren. I feel humbled by your post and admire your grit as an army wife to keep on getting through the days without your husband at home with you. My thanks to you and all those like you and your husbands and wives.
There are so many aspects to Anzac Day – the feelings that are personal to everyone, the political machinations behind war, the families who lose their men and women and feel the pain forever more. Gosh, what a sad and emotional day it is. There are no words to do justice to what happens during wartime.
I thought I would add this story …
Each year The Nurses Memorial Centre in Melbourne coordinates the laying of wreaths to acknowledge the heroism and sacrifice of Australian nurses who gave their lives or spent years in prisoner-of-war camps during World War II. This year’s event occurred on 22 April, the Sunday prior to Anzac Day
Twenty-one nurses perished on Radji Beach in the Bangka Island massacre which occurred on 16 February 1942. The nurses had survived the sinking of the ship Vyner Brooke, which escaped when Singapore was invaded. Japanese soldiers forced 22 Australian military nurses to walk into the sea and then shot them with machine guns. Only one nurse survived, Vivian Bullwinkel. Although she was shot, it is now believed that her height helped to save her life. The bullet passed through her, penetrating muscle, but missed her vital organs. Had the bullet penetrated her internal organs she would most certainly have died.
In memory of the Nurses of the 8th Australian Division: 2nd Australian Imperial Force who perished on Radji beach, Bangka Island on 16 February 1942.
Alma Beard (age 29)
Ada Bridge (age 34)
Florence Casson (age 33)
Mary Cuthbertson (age 31)
Irene Drummond (age 36) – Matron
Dorothy Elmes (age 27)
Lorna Fairweather (age 29)
Peggy Farmaner (age 28)
Clarice Halligan (age 37)
Nancy Harris (age 29)
Minnie Hodgson (age 33)
Ellen Keats (age 26)
Janet Kerr (age 31)
Mary McGlade (age 38)
Kathleen Neuss (age 30)
Elaine Ogilvie (age 30)
Florence Salmon (age 26)
Esther Stewart (age 37)
Mona Tait (age 27)
Rosetta Wight (age 33)
Bessie Wilmott (age 28)
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Thanks so much for telling this story – I have never heard it. Those poor women. They are around my age. Lest we forget.
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I thought the story of Major John Cantwell, the former commander of Australian troops in Afghanistan was very interesting too and I’m surprised that it has not been picked up by many in Australia.
He “came out” last week in an interview I listened to on the ABC about his private struggle with PTSD during and following his years in Afghanistan. He told how he had tried to hide his symptoms for several years and how that denied him the opportunity to get help which he is now doing, as well as denying other soldiers the opportunity to be open out their PTSD and get help too.
He stated that he is now doing well because he is getting help.
There are so many, many hidden stories to war …
The Daily Telegraph did run a story:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/retired-major-general-john-cantwell-counting-the-costs/story-e6freuy9-1226328163821
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3477811.htm?site=melbourne
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That would be *MAJ-GEN* Cantwell, unless he has been demoted a number of ranks in retirement.
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Oh, how awful! Autocorrect on my PC doesn’t recognise Major-General and I didn’t edit properly. My apologies to the Major General.
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This is beautiful Lauren, thank you. I went to my first Dawn Service this morning in Canberra (slightly disgraceful, given that I’m 28, but neither of my parents are Australian, and this is the first Anzac Day I haven’t worked in several years). My little brother served in both Iraq and East Timor and is a different person for it. Sometimes a better person, other times not. Either way, war has touched him and his best mates in ways I will never fully appreciate.
Lest we forget.
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As I wrote in my retweet of this post… “What she said”. Couldn’t have said it better. What they all do is so big it’s beyond my comprehension, and earns my undying respect.
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Beautifully written. Will pay my respects tomorrow to those that never made it home but are buried here in Belgium.
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For me, as an estranged daughter of a Vietnam Vet, this is a day to remember those who didn’t return and those who did return but were forever lost to their families.
If ANZAC day has a meaning, I think it’s to solemnly thank those who made a sacrafice and remember that war must be the absolute last resort.
Thanks Lauren
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Excellent article and this is from someone who will be proudly marching tomorrow. I think it says much good about our country on the whole that we have a day like this.
One quibble though: “Maybe you think you made no difference because when you came home, you were spat on and called a child murderer”. This seems to be entirely an urban myth. No one has yet found a single authenticated case of this happening http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/48/t/000368/p/1.html
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Hi Guest, it’s documented in the Australian War Memorial.
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I have been spat on at a welcome home parade for my partners unit with my sleeping 11month old son in my arms. I was told he was a murdered who deserved to die. sorry . thanks Lauren was a beautiful article, made me cry, many points rang true for me. But remember those too serve who only stand and wait, Thank you ANZACS past, present and future.
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That is truly disgusting, what is wrong with some people!
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I have seen comments on this very website ( in reference to cpl Roberts-smith, I think) which called him a serial killer, and soldiers in general as murders. It does happen.
My husband no longer attends the dawn service, after an incident in which he was accused by a stranger of firstly, having his medals on the wrong side, then when he politely told the stranger that no, the medals were his and being worn correctly, he was called a liar. He had been home from Iraq about a week.
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These incidents are appalling and I have no doubt they happened as described. What does appear to be an urban myth is the returning solider in uniform being spat upon. As I said not a single documented case although a lot of people claim to know someone who it happened to. Its genesis appears to be the film ‘Rambo’. (Lauren, happy to be proved wrong, can you provide a specific link to the AWM? I have searched their oral history transcripts and nothing there). When you think about it, it’s a bit unlikely – can you imagine someone spitting on a soldifer in uniform without getting a vigoroush response?
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Guest, it’s on their wall display in the Vietnam section.
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Beautiful, Lauren. I also give my heartfelt thanks to our soldiers, past and present. Lest we forget what we have because of their sacrifice. I pray we never take it for granted.
On ANZAC Day I find myself overwhelmed with grief for the mothers. My sons are in their early 20s and I cannot imagine the unbearable terror and anguish of waving them off to war. I pray to God I never find out.
To those who don’t understand why we fight against terrorism, go and listen to why Corporal Ben Roberts-Smith VC risks his life. He is privy to restricted information that convinces him that they’re keeping terrorism from touching our home. He wants his children to be able to catch a bus without being blown to kingdom come and I want my children to be able to as well.
To those who find patriotism offensive, I ask you what it is about Australia that we should be ashamed of? Im proud of our nation and what we’ve built. There are few better cultures on earth and I, for one, feel privileged and grateful to be Australian.
Just as there is light and goodness, there is darkness and evil and to deny that is to deny reality. We’re the good guys and don’t let any lunatic ideology tell you otherwise. We have nothing to be ashamed of. Our soldiers are decent and courageous and they do us proud.
God bless those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, those who serve to protect us and the families who support them.
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That’s so lovely anon. Sometimes we don’t let ourselves be proud of our country in case it’s misconstrued as “white pride” or racist….. I think that’s quite sad.
And I agree with what you’ve said about Ben Roberts-Smith. There’s a whole lot of information that can’t be made public…. and it’s a shame because if we all knew about their achievements over there, we’d be brimming with pride.
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I too am grateful to be Australian, and appreciate most aspects of our culture, but I also appreciate aspects of many other cultures also. I am interested to know by what criteria do you judge that our culture is better than most others? Are we all ‘good guys’ or do we perhaps have a mix of people are predominantly ‘good’ or predominantly ‘bad’, just as with human nature everywhere?
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I have no intention of smearing Lauren’s beautiful tribute by getting into a debate with you, kitten. You have no idea how much I’d like to though.
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Anon, judging by your reply I think you thought I was being antagonistic. I wasn’t, and don’t see how a discussion about something that doesn’t directly relate to Lauren’s article could “smear” it. I don’t wish at all to disrespect Lauren or her article; in fact I had some questions which she kindly commented on to help me understand some aspects of today’s commemoration.
I think there is nothing wrong in being proud of our country, so long as we remember we are not perfect either. I do however think there is a difference between pride and proclaiming ourselves to be better than others in an absolutist sense, as the latter seems to often be accompanied by undertones of righteousness and, yes sometimes racism (not talking about you, just in general). I suppose it comes down to personal preference.
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I can understand why people may have mixed feelings about the notion of “celebrating” or “honouring” soldiers going to war and being killed….
And I just wanted to say that I think that is exactly why we have ANZAC Day. Because we all need to be reminded sometimes of the bigger picture. History doesn’t happen in a bubble. The context is so important. These soldiers were just people, many of them just kids. They were scared. They were told they were fighting for the greater good. They BELIEVED they were fighting for peace, to keep our country safe.
They weren’t just getting involved in a war that had nothing to do with them. They thought that by stopping the Ottomans from joining forces with Germany, that they would be closer to the war ending. Perhaps it was really just all about obtaining a sea route to Russia after all… but most of them wouldn’t have known.
They didn’t live today. News and information was scarce. During the war, they didn’t have the luxury of sitting back and knowing our country was safe from things happening in the rest of the world… nothing was secure to them. Not their families, their jobs, education or even food and resources. In 1915, you did what you had to do if you thought your country and your livelihood and your families were in danger. You made the decision to fight with your heart because you believed you were doing what is best.
Those soldiers made the best choices they could at the time. They didn’t have the benefit of 100 years hindsight. But they did the bravest thing anyone could and risked their lives because they believed in a better future.
It is not about glorifying war, it is about simply about remembering those who fought and were lost so long ago, even if it did happen in a political landscape that is no longer relevant to us. It was in 1915. Let us not forget that.
Remember them. Lest we forget.
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Love this response Lucinda.
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Thanks Dee
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I am uncomfortable with “celebrating” ANZAC Day. Especially being wished a “Happy ANZAC Day”. Um, what? Just have a think about what you’re saying! I know people are saying it to commemorate and recognise the day, but it’s not really *that* kind of day!
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I don’t see it as a celebration either Kris, more a solemn remembrance. But it seems to be the way some people look at it, and I think that is what causes their confusion.
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I’ve never, in 50 years, heard anyone say Happy ANZAC Day.
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I have. It’s the weirdest thing.
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I have also heard people say ‘Happy Anzac Day’ and it’s ridiculous. It’s mostly bogans on Facebook who claim to be patriotic because they go to a pub and get absolutely blind drunk.
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The older I get the more I can’t stop thinking about how scared they must have been. It’s unimaginable.
Both of my grandfathers served in World War II. I think about them as young men. I think about my grandmothers, left alone with their children. I think about all of the servicemen and women in our country and in others who have seen things that most of us cannot and do not want to imagine.
I might not agree with the wars or conflicts our forces personnel go out to but I’m glad we have them.
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Beautiful article. I grew up with my dad in the airforce and while no wars were going on at the time there was always the trips away on peace keeping and worrying that if a war did break out he would be deployed. There are a few people that have mentioned that they disagree with ANZAC day because we shouldn’t have been fighting other people’s wars, if we don’t help others who do you think would come help us if one day we were attacked? How are you meant to train an army that keeps up with military developments if we don’t train with and share skills with other countries? Anyway I’m off to bed before I babble a whole novel – early start tomorrow!
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I remember last year on Remembrance Day, looking out the window at work across to the War Memorial during our minute’s silence, to see a very old man saluting the memorial, all by himself, while a council worker mowed the lawn during the minute. It made me so sad that he couldn’t just stop for a minute, to acknowledge what this man and so many other men and women sacrificed for the rest of us. I can’t go to the Dawn Service tomorrow because of work, but I plan to go next year. Not because I agree with our involvement in war, but because I think it is so important to acknowledge what our countrymen&women have gone through and continue to endure, to ensure the safety of the rest of us and our nation. Regardless of people’s feelings about Australia’s involvement in various wars, I hope we can all come together to say thank you, at least.
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Thank you Lauren. I am the granddaughter of a WW2 soldier, the daughter of a Vietnam Vet and a proud ‘Army Brat’. And tomorrow, as every year, I will take my children to a service and remind them of what a hero their Grandpa still is.
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On this day (24 April) in 1918 a battle was fought at Villers Bretonnuex in France. Over 1200 Australian soldiers died defending against the Germans. I have been to the war memorial there & have taken my children. You would have to be made of stone not to be affected by what happened on that day & the high esteem that Australian soldiers are held in by that town. To see all the gravestones of those who sacrificed their lives really hit home.
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I have been to an Anzac Day service at Villes Brettoneaux, Snap, about 10yrs ago, and it was one of the most touching events of my life. There were representatives of the Australian and French Governments there and it was a beautiful, touching, memorable service of commemoration. I heard yesterday that the Villes Brettoneaux ceremony is now much larger and more recognised given Gallipoli has grown to be almost unmanageable. We subsequently toured some of the WWI fighting grounds in that region and were amazed at the proximity of the trenches (still present) to each other. Just. Horrific.
To all those who serve, have served, have returned home, to the families of those who haven’t – today we remember and honour your contribution and sacrifice.
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Amazing piece Lauren. Truly touching. x
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Beautiful article Lauren. And whilst tomorrow is for our soldiers, today I’d like to acknowledge you and the other wives, husbands and partners who put up a brave face and get on with day to say activities while their other halves are away serving x
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Thank you JC1286,
Sometimes it’s horrible, and sometimes it’s lonely and sometimes I have those selfish moments where I feel so angry that he chooses his country over me….but he wouldn’t be the man I love if he sat at home and left it for other people to do. He’s truly my hero. I couldn’t be more proud.
(and kind words from lovely people like you, make me feel a lot less alone xx)
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That was a wonderful article that brought tears to my eyes.
I’m in my late 20s, my grandparents fought in WWII, I’ve been to Gallipoli and the Western Front. I’m setting my alarm for the dawn service in the morning. I think whether you agree with the wars we have fought in or not, those young men and women gave their lives, bodies, mental and physical health o fight for our country. Thankyou.
I went to yoga tonight, and my teacher gave a wonderful class, talking about remembrance and being present to show your respect for those who fought, past and present. For making our country safe. For living in a country where we are free to practise yoga, or whatever religion we want without fear of prejudice. It just resonated with me, and then this post has followed it up. And being present in the poses to be part of our remembrance and thankfulness. I haven’t put it in the words she did, but…
ANZAC day shouldn’t be about politics, or game playing, or right or wrong. It should be about respect and thankfulness.
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At the risk of spooking a sacred cow, I would like to say that I find ANZAC day very confusing. The last post can make me cry, though perhaps that’s just because it’s a very haunting piece of music.
But I can’t seem to separate the idea of thinking ‘lest we forget’ with a number of issues including:
- My stance on the wars they have fought in; how can one disassociate the politics of the situation with the actions undertaken on ground?
- The several defence force personnel I have met that have been quite racist, nationalistic and righteous and far too excited about any chance to use a gun. Please let me emphasise that these are only people I have met and am related to; I am not generalising, but my personal encounters have left me concerned whether this sample of people is representative of the whole. They could be very nice but there was/is a really concerning side to these people. It’s why I find it hard to fully believe Lauren’s comment that “They don’t enjoy it. They feel it’s the right thing to do. It’s what they’re driven to do. For us.”. Perhaps that’s the people she knows, but not the ones I do. And if they are doing this fighting for “us” (Australians?), how does this relate to the current conflict in Afghanistan? I thought they were doing that to bring peace to the region, not somehow benefit our country half a world away?
- The argument that they are, as Lauren said “just doing what you were asked to do. What you were told to do”. With the exception of those wars where people were forced to go to war, it is surely the choice of the individual to go into these situations when they knowingly enlist, or go to war, or go back a second or third time?
- The intent of ANZAC day seems to blur with every explanation – are we supposed to be paying respect to the original ANZACs in Gallipoli (which was inarguably a horrific, unpredictable situation) or the soldiers currently fighting in wars our government still has a choice about participating in?
I feel differently for those wars where people were conscripted against their will, and those whose work involves rebuilding communities, so I choose to personally focus on them on ANZAC day.
I have written this from a genuinely confused point of view, so would really appreciate if people are taken aback by what I have said above, that rather than attacking me, they try to explain and help me answer my many questions! I would like to peel back the emotion of this day and understand the logic and reasoning behind it.
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@Kitten- I am not 100% sure, but I think that with the Army and probably the other defence forces, you sign up for a certain term of service and you can’t just quit because you don’t want to be there anymore. Which means that maybe you signed up back before Iraq, when there wasn’t heaps going on in the world of war, but you were in for 5 or 10 years, so you just have to go where they tell you until your term of service is over. And then, after seeing what our soldiers see, and doing what they do, I think a lot of them probably can’t imagine or handle going back to ‘normal’ life, so it seems better to stay in with the people they shared experiences with, people who understand them. I have no experience with this stuff, I’m just guessing. But I thank those people so much for my ability to sit here on my couch and wonder stuff, in my nice home, in my free country. Thank you all.
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Yeah, you do sign up for a minimum number of years. It depends what job you sign up as as to how long you sign on for. So there are minimum service periods of 3, 4, 6 and 12 years (for pilots – so they don’t get their quals then bugger off to Qantas, apparently). But you also sign up with the understanding that you deploy to where you’re told to. Just because you sign up and with that understanding and go doesn’t mean you necessarily agree with what you’ve deployed to do.
I was worried that we’d pick up boat people when I was up north because I was seriously worried about how people in our ship’s company would treat them having heard the way some of them spoke. Thankfully it didn’t happen.
As to the points about being gun happy nationalistic racists in Kitten’s original comment. Yeah, I guess there are elements of that, but I think a lot of it is blustery talk, to be honest. My dad, for example, says stuff like “The Navy should use the refugee boats for target practice” and he’s never been in the forces. He’d never be able to pull the trigger though!
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Thanks guys for replying, and Craig below. It’s hard to find answers sometimes as there is so much rhetoric and emotion surrounding these sorts of issues.
I didn’t know about the minimum service periods. I suppose I personally wouldn’t take the risk of signing up, knowing I could be deployed to do something I really didn’t want to do. Kris, if you don’t mind my asking, what motivated you to sign up with these risks?
I know what you mean about your dad; my grandparents are the same (more with generalised racist talk that doesn’t ever translate to action – they might diss the poor Chinese as an entire race but every Chinese person they know is the exception to that rule oddly enough). I still don’t think it is okay to say this stuff though as in a group environment I reckon it risks perpetuating an attitude of acceptance to these sort of notions.
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I’ve been asked this before, and the best way to describe it was that it was kind of a calling, I think. I’ve always been super interested in war history, I come from a line of people who have served and always had immense pride in their having served (and died, at Gallipoli), and wanted to do my bit.
I guess you just look at it as you don’t always agree with everything your boss asks you to do, you just get on and do it.
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Some of the current wars are a hard sell. But with WW2 especially we have to remember that Australia was under direct attack. We were bombed, we had enemy submarines and ships in our harbours. The way the war ended we may have be fine anyway, but at the time we had no choice but to fight to protect our own families. So I will always respect the soldiers for that.
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Hi Kitten, you’ve raised some good points, and I’m glad you’ve asked.
1. This would take me 4000 words to fully explain…. but as a political journalist and an army wife, trust when I say there’s a world of difference…. Pollies are dealing with votes, world leaders, polls…. soldiers are dealing with enemies and civilians. Very rarely do the two worlds collide.
2. I’ll be the first to say some soldiers are dickheads. I’ve met a lot. Some of them make me want to slap their stupid shaved heads for the crap they pull that drags other good men and women down. It’s an exasperating social issue that dozens of experts are trying to figure out. What has happened that make young men in groups act like dumb bastards? It’s a real problem. You can’t escape that.
It makes me angry that AJs (Army Jerks) taint the reputation of some of the finest human beings you’d ever want to meet. Men and women who are so motivated and driven to serve the country they love more than themselves. Men and women who have quietly gone about doing our country proud – but we’ll never know.
3. RE: Doing it for us: The situation in Afghanistan is to rebuild that nation – but also to prevent terrorists seizing it as their base from which to attack every corner of the globe – including Australia. We’re trying to cut the head off the snake, so to speak… (at least, that’s what I understand, in my capacity as a journo. My husband tells me nothing!)
4. I don’t know of anyone who enlists because they “want” to go to war. It’s hard to explain because I’m not a soldier, but many of them want to serve their country, in any way they can, knowing that COULD include active service. But anyone who was signing up with the idea that they want to go to war – I think they’d be weeded out in the Psych interview. There’s a difference between wanting to serve and being willing to die for your country and being keen to fight…. (however, in that sentence that you’ve quoted, I was actually referring to the Vietnam Vets – many of whom were National Servicemen – or “Nashos” – conscripts).
5. ANZAC Day is celebrated on April 25 because it was the day of the landing at Gallipoli – which was when the Aussies and the Kiwis were fighting together as one – as ANZACs. The horror of that campaign is what united Australia and NZ during WW1. The men who survived were seen as the best kind of Aussies and Kiwis: resilient, brave and selfless. Larrikins who are loyal to their mates – it’s what we’ve come to know as the ANZAC spirit – something that we all want to see in ourselves and something that is instilled in all soldiers, sailors and airmen. So it’s a day to remember all the people who have served our country with that spirit and legacy. It’s a day to thank them for setting the standard for the kind of people we all want to be.
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@ Lauren,
The distinction you make in your first point is an artificial one. The armed forces do the bidding of the government. The government is a collection of politicians. Pollies “are dealing with votes, world leaders, polls”. That is how it is, and always has been.
It’s not because I don’t appreciate the extent of the sacrifice members of our armed force make when they are killed or injured in the line of duty that I refuse to separate the two issues, it’s because I do.
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How come they can’t weed out the ‘dickheads’ in the psych interviews? Maybe that’s part of the problem with the culture, that nobody’s thought to add these attitudes/tendancies to the list of things they’re looking to avoid. I agree with you that some people damage the well-deserved name of others, in the army.
I have great respect for Anzac Day though, and I usually take my kids to the parade.
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Our armed services are made up of men and women drawn from the Australian community, and they are a product of community- both good and bad. The criminal offences or poor behavior or ” dick head” factor are not isolated to the ADF, but they occur much less frequently then in the general community, mostly due to rigorous testing to get istranding disicpline and high expectations for behaviour, and clear consquences for misconduct – including sanctions that are not available in the general community.
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Thanks for taking the time to write such a considered response Lauren, especially given this is an issue close to your heart.
Your words help me to understand a little better, and while I still have trouble with 1 (in my ignorance, I think if I was a servicewoman who passionately opposed the political directive for Australia’s participation in a war, I would quit at any cost), I can appreciate some of your other points. Mateship, larrikinism, selflessness and bravery are all qualities that could do with perpetuating, I agree, and I will try and remember those qualities when faced with “AJs”
It just scares me the way some of them talk; one being a stepbrother of mine who is a sniper hoping to go to Afghanistan to “sort the towelheads out” (DEFINITELY not my words). It makes me shudder.
No doubt as families in Australia and NZ mourn our fallen and wounded, so too do the families of the fallen and wounded in countries we have fought also mourn the loss of their loved ones. It’s all just so terribly sad and I can’t imagine what any of them have been through.
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Where did your husband see service. From your article, it sounds like Vietnam, but I figure he is probably too young for that. Is he still in the army?
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We are in a war right now (Afghanistan) and not so long ago finished another one (Iraq). Add in a few peacekeeping missions around the world in the last 10 years or so. These wars and efforts seem not to be at the forefront of people’s minds for some reason.
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Its this kind of writing and article that reminds me what I love about MM. Beautifully written. My stepson joined the army 10 months ago and he has been told he will 90% chance of going to Afghanistan. So Anzac Day takes on a whole new meaning for me now. Lest We Forget.
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Great writing, Lauren. Thank you for saying it for us.
I deeply value and revere our one day of the year to honor those men and women who went to war for our country.
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thank you lauren! such a beautiful piece!
how inspiring! please, thank your wonderful husband for us!
happy ANZAC day everyone! how blessed are we that we live in this beautiful and safe country! x
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That was beautifully written Lauren.
I can’t commemorate ANZAC day however. Of all the glorious moments we have had militarily, we choose our role as an invader in an unjust war, sent by an imperial power to their death.
It is such a shame we don’t honour those who served in the Somme or those who sufferred on the Kokoda track.
We need to separate out honouring our serving men and women, honouring those who served before, and died from the battle of Gallipoli which was not our finest moment as a nation.
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Yes we do honour the Sommes and Kokoda! I don’t know about you but on ANZAC Day we remember all those that lost their lives and those that fought in every war, in every battle. In the past and in the present.
Of particular significance to my family is WW2 because my grandfather served in the RAAF as a navigator. Since I was young we watched him march with his 30 Squadron mates. Since he died we carry on watching his Squadron march then joining them all for lunch and we remember him and his fellow soldiers who fought so we can live our lives in a free country as we do today.
Years ago when people began to question if Australian soldiers committed war crimes my grandfather said “it was a fight to the death”.
So just think, what would Australia be like if we didn’t fight, if we didn’t win the war and where would you be in existence?
Lest we forget.
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I think the attitudes towards the Vietnam war colored my generation. I never got taken to a dawn service or Anzac day parade. I don’t remember anyone at school that did either. This despite the fact that my great grandfather died in WW1 (only found this out a few days ago), I had an uncle and cousin at Tobruk and uncle get captured in new guinea and taken to changi in WW2. School friends had fathers, uncles who fought in Vietnam.
It sucks that wars are still being fought, but at least the servicemen and women are being acknowledged far more respectfully (on the whole).
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Faybian, it must have been so confusing to grow up in that era. Perhaps now is a good time to let yourself be proud of your family and the sacrifices they made for you. You have a right to feel part of ANZAC Day too. Thank you to your family xx
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My hubby is working today, but next year we’d like to go to the dawn service and march as a family.
I don’t intend to repeat the culture of silence around Anzac day that was evident when I was growing up.
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Late last year I moved literally across the road from one of the largest war memorials in WA. Every day it’s a reminder of our service men and women which has caused me to think of them every day rather than just a couple of times a year.
Yes I’ll be attending the dawn service tomorrow for the first time since I was a child!
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I like the sincerity you portray in this article Lauren. Thanks for highlighting the difficult times the young men and women have to go through today when they have the war in front of them. As mentioned it can often be overshadowed by political debate. Thanks for a great article.
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Lovely article! Thank you.
And thank you to each and every service man and woman and to the families who support them or gave them to us.
Tonight my son and I are staying in the city for tomorrow morning’s Dawn Service in Sydney. My son is 7 and he will be wearing his great grandfather’s World War I medals including his Military Cross. We are so proud!! I want my son to always know that there were young men and women who were, then and now, unfathomably brave when they were called and we owe so much to them. I want him to know that they faced something terrible and stood together and stood tall. I want him to know and be grateful and to always be respectful and say thank you!
Lest we forget.
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I love this article. I think it is the best you have written and it brought a tear to my eye.
I have had trouble connecting with the idea of ANZAC day as it feels disconnected from our generation. I was trying to explain it to my daughter and couldn’t explain the concept of war to her.
But this brought it home and I feel much more connected to the idea of ANZAC day this year
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beautifully written Lauren!
Just wanted to say Thanks for our ANZACS and thanks to our men and women who are currently on duty.
Lest we Forget
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Oh dear, that really made me cry.
Thank you Lauren for a beautiful piece of writing.
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This is beautiful. Thank your husband for his service from me.
I also wanted to say that I think our future ANZAC days are in safe hands. I’m a teacher at a boys school and we had our service today. Quite a few ex servicemen attend, and it’s such a special event. Our boys can be a bit naughty at assemblies, but not on ANZAC or Rememberance Day. They understand these events and are so respectful. Some of the senior boys gave speeches, and spoke beautifully about the sacrifices made by our diggers. They also spoke so eloquently about honoring our soldiers, without glorifying war.
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I’m always a bit bemused when they carry on about the amounts of young people who take part in Dawn Services and make the trip to Gallipoli and other battlefields. I think kids totally get it. I did as a kid in the 80s. Obviously kids are a bit more removed from grandparents who lived through the war, but that doesn’t make them immune to getting into ANZAC or Remembrance Day!
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I liked this piece which was in The Age on the weekend, written by someone who went following his great-uncle’s tracks to Gallipoli:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/true-remembrance-20120421-1xe1s.html
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I deeply respect those who were injured or died during war.
And yet, I have so many issues with how we remember and discuss it, I don’t even know where to start…….
So I’ll just say I don’t appreciate the brainwashing, histrionics and ugly patriotism which goes hand in hand with the ANZAC myth.
Let’s just Remember Them because they were lambs to the slaughter in a war which had nothing to do with us. Let us learn not to fight other people’s wars, let us not sacrifice our own when we are not under threat. Let us remember that our war veterans were simply human, and they make mistakes which may or may not have been the fault of their training. Let’s not spill the blood of anyone because it suits us economically.
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I suspect that sooner rather than later you are going to be shouted down for this comment, so I wanted to say I agree with everything you’ve written here.
The sacrifice members of the armed forces have made in the line of duty are too big to be measured and so on Anzac day itself I try to bite my tongue. But exactly who’s interests have been served by that sacrifice and the gingoistic flag-waving it engenders is something we should never ‘stop questioning’.
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People will always tell you how much they respect our forces – right before they disrespect them.
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If it’s ok with you Lauren I am going to borrow this quote from you and use it religiously!
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I really liked everything you wrote in your article Lauren, and found it very moving. However this comment really disturbs me. It would be very scary if any critique of our national myths, or critique of any behaviour associated with them, was labelled as ‘disrespecting our forces’. It’s the start of a slippery slope.
I agreed with some of what Nicki wrote, and very much disagreed with other parts. But I saw nothing in it, at all, that was even slightly disrespectful to our forces.
However, personally, I treat Anzac Day as a sacred day where I put aside my own questioning of ‘the big issues’ to honour the people who deserve to be honoured, without reservation.
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Anon,
It’s difficult to find one thing that I didn’t find disrespectful, but most of all, is probably calling it the ‘ANZAC myth’ – which you have just repeated. You are both very confused about the definition of the word myth, or you are suggesting that our troops display none of the attributes of the ANZAC spirit – or perhaps you’re suggesting that Gallipoli didn’t happen? Much like the suggestion that any of the wars “had nothing to do with us” or we were “under no threat” – that’s just complete ignorance of our history and the way global alliances work – are you suggesting we went to war just for the fun of it?
Not to mention linking a day of honour, humility and gratitude with the words “brainwashing, histrionics and ugly patriotism”….. that’s so offensive, I struggle to find the words.
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Hi Lauren,
I was using the word ‘myth’ in its sociological sense, meaning a nation’s important stories, which is a positive, non-judgemental word, and in no way suggests any lack of truth. This is quite different from when the word ‘myth’ means ‘that’s a myth’, or mistaken/untrue story. I assumed this was a commonly understood usage of the word, but it would probably have been helpful to make this distinction clearer, especially on such an emotional day.
I’m a history teacher, and quite confident about my historical knowledge, and I would like to reassure you that none of the suggestions you make apply to me. As I said above, I didn’t agree with everything Nicki wrote. In particular, I would like to say that I fully support Australia’s involvement in Afghanistan, and I usually take my children to the Anzac Day march. And as I said previously, I liked everything you wrote in your article, and found it very moving.
I do believe there can be discussion about how Australia observes Anzac Day, particularly how to avoid it being highjacked by extreme nationalism (as described by someone else in a later comment), without this being considered in any way disrespectful to our soldiers, either past or present. Because Anzac Day is so important, it’s not just about the soldiers, it’s also about things like our national identity. When it is taught in schools, we don’t just teach ‘what happened’, we also examine national identity etc. And my point here was, that a) this analysis can be separate from (and not disrespectful of) the soldiers, and b) if any critique of the way we approach it (ie analysis, not ‘criticism’) is dismissed as disrespectful to soldiers, then this could give free rein to worrying developments in extreme nationalism etc. Personally, I find this behaviour disrespectful to our soldiers and their legacy.
I regret not explaining this more clearly, but I was wanting to keep my comment brief, because, as I said earlier, while I feel discussion of these issues is valid and important, I personally believe that Anzac Day is not the time or place for this, and for me it is a sacred day to “honour the people who deserve to be honoured, without reservation”.
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Anon, you said “I saw nothing in it, at all, that was even slightly disrespectful to our forces.”
I explained to you that I found the comment extremely disrespectful. I did not say anything about whether we can discuss the way the day is observed. That’s fine. What’s not fine is trying to denigrate the memories of those who have served.
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I don’t understand what it is that you think is brainwashing.
ANZAC Day is not about what mistakes were or were not made, or to focus on the negatives. Noone is pro war.
It is about standing up on this day and acknowleging and remembering the human beings that put themselves forward to fight for what they believed was right. Whether or not it was right is not important – we did not walk in their shoes, it was a different time and place – it is simply about showing our respects for the sacrifices those soldiers made.
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We fight in other peoples wars because we are part of the world, not a single country that has no ties to anyone. Besides, most the work Australia and New Zealand is involved in is peace keeping not “war”.
ANZAC day started as a memorial to the soldiers that lost their lives at Gallipoli but it has grown to be a day to remember anyone who has lost their life in battle, or fought overseas. It’s a day were people in the military get to get together with their mates who “get” them. What’s wrong with that?
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with what it has become but that doesn’t mean I have to agree that it is celebrated on the correct day.
For me its like Australia Day. I love have a national day. Happy to show my pride in my nation. Choosing the day that a boat landed full of Brits who pretended there was noone else here does not speak volumes for the best of this country.
Both of our national days are built on our least wonderful moments in history, when we have so many richer ones to choose from.
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Just say thank you
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I find your comment condescending to all our service men and women and their families.
You – as a civilian – will never know the impact that war and peace keeping has on our country. I am a civilian married to an ex serviceman and even I am unaware of the extent to which out country is protected. What I do know is that every serviceman and woman I have met KNOW the reasons they are going to war and they know what lies ahead for out country if they don’t. The amount of threats from other countries that Australia receives will never be known to you as we have an army protecting us. If the government chose to release this information the public would understand but it would also create such panic and fear in the community that it isn’t worth it.
Anzac Day is about being thankful and remembering those that serve our country. Instead of questioning the reasons or focussing on the politics, just be thankful.
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Hey Nicki
It would be dandy if we could all just hold hands and skip around in a circle celebrating world peace but that isn’t the reality!
I find it rather dissappointing that you take your freedom for granted and can’t even pause for one day of the year to honour and respect those who died serving our country.
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Great article Lauren! Thank you for writing it.
We will be heading to the Dawn Service at my husband’s unit followed by the traditional gunfire breakfast. Our boys are so excited about going. It is a very big event for our family and we never miss it.
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Thanks Lauren for reminding us of the sacrifices many Australians make. This is a beautiful and meaningful tribute to all Australians who serve their country in uniform.
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As a fellow army wife: I concur.
Thank you will never be enough – Lest We Forget.
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