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Ricky Nixon AFL train wreck: is the 17 year old girl a product of modern media?

Ricky Nixon

Warning: you may want to take a shower after reading this post. It’s that messy. But it raises some important questions about the AFL, power, sex, exploitation, responsibility, media and what it means to be 17 in 2011.

The short version: the girl who last year released nude photos of St Kilda AFL players Nick Riewoldt, Zac Dawson and Nick Dal Santo, claiming she had taken them (and then later admitting she hadn’t) has now told the media she has been having an affair with the manager of one of those players for the past few weeks. He denies it. She says she has photos of him on her bed in his underwear. The media has photos of him leaving her hotel at 7:15am. And all of this is being played out via Twitter, Facebook and the media.

This morning, both Nixon and the girl – who cannot be named because she is under 18, even though she is obsessively determined to put herself out there – have been making the radio rounds today, giving interviews to put forward their sides of the ugly ugly story.

We have chosen not to publish her name, her images or even links to her Twitter or youtube videos.

Here is the latest installment in this story:

What’s worth discussing is this: at what point is a 17 year old girl responsible for her own actions? She has been referred to as ‘disturbed’ frequently in the media but there is unquestionably also a sense that she is enjoying the attention tremendously and continues to court it. That is not to excuse the actions of player manager Ricky Nixon whose dealings with this girl have clearly been inappropriate – whether they technically had sex or not.

Reports the Australian:

Nixon said today he expects police to intervene in the matter and “take control” of the controversy, and demanded to see proof to back the girl’s allegations.

The 47-year-old is facing claims from the girl, who last year released nude photos of St Kilda players, that the pair had a sexual relationship. While Nixon has admitted to “inappropriate dealings” with the girl, he denied claims of a sexual relationship.

The 17-year-old claims to have made potentially damaging videos and audiotapes of Nixon, which she has handed to the Herald Sun and to Victoria Police. Victoria Police said today they had received material from the Herald Sun and would investigate the matter.

Someone on Twitter asked “Where are her parents?”. Well, I believe they’re in Queensland, are appalled by her actions and are distancing themselves from her after she refused to listen to them. Can you blame them? Seriously, how can you control a 17 year old hell bent on drawing the media flame back to herself via whatever means she has? You can’t cut off their access to social media. You can’t stop them from calling newspapers or radio stations. You can’t take away her phone and her computer.

It’s too easy to dismiss her as ‘crazy’ or ‘disturbed’. What’s far more terrifying is that in the actions of this girl, we may be seeing the result of a generation who have been brought up on a TV diet of reality shows. When making a sex tape (Paris, Kim) is enough to turn you into a superstar with millions of endorsement deals and your own perfume.

Where press conferences and sex scandals and social media combine into a toxic and intoxicating mix of modern celebrity and fame.

I fear that we have created a culture among some girls where fame and media attention is the pinnacle of achievement. The end-game. The short-cut to great things. They could certainly be forgiven for thinking it’s the road to wealth and success…..Paris? Kardashians? Chik-chik-Boom girl?
There are so many shows on E! and commercial TV that make stars of girls whose lives are train wrecks or who have become famous on the back of scandalous things.
My fear is that this girl has her actual life confused with a semi-scripted reality show.

Is that what we’ve created?

UPDATE: In response to some comments below aghast that I would be ‘blaming’ this on the 17 year old girl instead of the actions of the 47 year old man, it’s fair to say that I should indeed have been clearer about my distaste for Ricky Nixon, the married father of two who behaved (by his own admission) inappropriately. DISTASTE. Huge amounts of it.

But there seem to be many men travelling in and out of this story. The constant is the 17 year old girl. So for the purpose of this post and the questions this latest installment has raised, I was focussing on her and what the bigger picture here might be. I think it is extremely interesting how she is indeed redressing the power imbalance between a 17 year old girl and high profile AFL players and managers. She’s using social media and traditional media in ways that have been both surprising and disturbing to watch.

UPDATE: Fifi Box and Jules Lund spoke to the St Kilda Schoolgirl on their radio show this afternoon:

Click here to listen to the audio.

[courtesy of Fifi & Jules Drive Show, 4-6 Monday to Thursday, on the 2DAY Network]

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  1. Andrea

    The longer the media panders to this girl and provides the attention she so desperately seeks, the longer this sordid saga will continue. What she needs is someone to take her aside, and guide her in her decision making, and get her back on track. Whilst the men she is consorting with are disgusting and their behaviour shameful, they clearly are not looking out for anyone’s interests but their own. She needs help. Now. The media need to stop all contact and instead of ‘egging her on’ take some social responsibility themselves.

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  2. Mala

    Where are this girl’s parents? She is a child, this much is clear from the way she chooses to behave. She is obviously unaware of the long-term consequences of her actions. As for Nixon, what a slime ball! What hope does football have when this is the type of role model young players have to look up to?

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  3. Let it go

    The media need to stop all interviews until this girl gets some help.
    Currently they are adding fuel to the fire. This poor girl has no idea what the long term consequences will be.

    Think back to when you were 17 and the drama you and your friends thrived on. Although in my case, it was usually over something as trivial as where to go on a saturday night, and NOT sleeping around and telling the media about it!

    This whole situation is totally out of hand.

    Mia, I think you have addressed the situation in a respectful and dignified way.

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  4. Louise

    I could be wrong but didn’t this all start with another player having sex with her when she was just 14? In which case firstly why isn’t he in gaol, and secondly, no wonder she is behaving as she is now. Apparently Darren Hinch is all over this?

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  5. salvator sillitoe

    The arguments on this page boil down to (a) the classic, 1970s-derived school of “victim feminism” (all females are frail, passive things who need defending from the overly-sexualised aggression of masculinity) vs. (b) a more modern view that sees women as active participants in society with agency and personal responsibility.

    The complication is that the girl is 17, therefore in an official/ hormonal grey-zone between girlhood and womanhood. This issue is not easily resolved.

    What we’re seeing too little of here is commentary on Mia Freeman’s interestingly provocative central point about the effects of Celebrity culture and Reality TV stars on the psyches of a new generation. Why so shy, people? Come on, let’s get the debate on track.

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    • Ren

      Excellent points Salvator Sillitoe.

      What I want to hear from are parents of current teenagers and how they address the issue of self worth, achievement, fame and desires?

      Do you find you have to specifically bring up the topic of Reality TV and being famous for famous sake? How do you tackle the online world since it’s something you never had to deal with?

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      • Bee

        my 17 year old daughter thinks the 17 year old we are discussing is an idiot. All her friends thingk the girls is an idiot. That said I think it is almost impossible to control a determined 17 year old. It is (surprisingly) a VERY short walk to 18 and they all know their rights, they all know EVERYTHING. I think it comes down to respect and if they have some respect for their parents they will hold back, think a bit more about whatever but if they don’t they don’t care ‘cos they know best. It is a tough one raising teenagers today more than at any other time and I am glad I don’t have any younger daughters..

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    • yos

      I wouldn’t want to be famous for anything in the world. Fame ruins people, especially young people. For women fame seems to revolve around sex (if you don’t have a legitimate talent such as acting or music, even then…), how many women and girls are exploiting themselves and their bodies with the aim to get famous?

      Interesting note that when discussing reality tv and celebrities who are famous for nothing, how long would the list of guys who fit into this category be compared to girls?

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  6. Meggy

    You can cut off her computer and telephone.
    She should be attending school/tafe/uni or getting a job.
    The parents are 100% definitely to blame. They have ‘distanced’ themself and left this young woman/girl whatever to fend for herself. She has proven that she is not capable of making rational healthy decisions and her parents the gutless cowards want to distance themselves rather than help their daughter and teach her how to behave properly?
    Ironically this Nixon predator has offered to help her knowing she has no money, no home, no family and has then been ‘inappropriate’ with her. Is it any wonder this girl is messed up and disturbed? well done Nixon for adding to her troubles.
    The parents need to step in and behave like it. You can’t just get them to 16 and wipe your hands of them – what sort of parent does that?

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    • Bee

      I don’t think we can imagine the difficulties the parents have had with this very determined girl.Like drug addicts sometimes tough love is called for and walking away is the only answer.
      Meggy, do you have a teenager? I don’t think you can look at the story in black & white, there is a mountain of grey here and loads of history no doubt.The story is only part told.

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  7. TG

    I’m so glad to have the veil of anonymity here…. Is anyone here recalling the story of Lolita???
    I went to school with a girl, who, unbelievably, to ‘get back’ at her mother for remarrying, went about seducing her new step-father. Yes, I know it’s two way street, however I’m looking at this from her point of view because it’s the only one I know of first hand. She was 16. She also took photos as proof. She was a breathtakingly beautiful young woman who knew the powers of her sexuality but didn’t understand the repercussions of this power and how it would ruin and devastate so many lives – including hers. I’m sure as she gets older, the enormity of the situation becomes more and more apparent.
    This girl reminds me very much of her.
    Frightening situation.

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  8. Victoria Vilches

    I find & think the media is helping this “GIRL” make her 15min last way longer than they have. Why does she keep coming up with more things to say about the AFL stars.

    We don’t know what kind of relationship she had with that old man but maybe they “loved” each other or she was just using him to get closer to the AFL stars & he was a silly old man that got wrapped up in it all.

    She should keep her legs closed.

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    • Blondie Gal

      And grown men should not have been in her hotel room, regardless of whether or not her legs were open. Sheesh.

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  9. missb

    What if this girl WAS 18? By my maths she will be 18 this year. What if after she turns 18 she does something similar? Let’s say releases a video of players drunk and with drugs at a house party because she “wants to get back at them” for ignoring her phone calls or whatever.
    Does being of legal age really change things?

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    • Anonymous

      Exactly! Age doesn’t have anything to do with it. You have a 17 year old displaying immature behaviour, and a 47 year old Father, equally immature in his handling of this situation. Go figure

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  10. Mia

    Bec – she doesn’t even live in the same state as her parents. So no, they couldn’t stop her from contacting the media or communicating with the world via social media.

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    • Flick

      Mia, I think we need to ask “Why, and how does she have the means to live in another state from her parents at 17″. I mean she doesn’t work, how does she afford it.

      The St Kilda football club are paying for her hotel room for a couple of months!!!! Talk about power imbalances. It is so sick!

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      • rene

        She would be eligible for Government assistance if she is unable to live with her parents.

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        • Flick

          It is beside the point. The St Kilda football club are paying for her to live in a hotel room.

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          • rainbow

            why? so the players manager has easy access to her?

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          • Anon76

            Why?

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          • missb

            It was part of their settlement with her, they would pay for accommodation for her. I had thought it had run out by now which was why the HSun paid for a couple of nights.

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          • rainbow

            if they meant the best for her they would pay someone else to look after her and leave themselves out of the equation. after all afl players and staff don’t really have the reputation nor experience of managing these situations well

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      • Me

        Why are they paying for her hotel room?
        So they have easy access?
        It is WEIRD

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    • Bec

      Thanks for clarifying that Mia, I assumed they were in QLD to escape the circus surronding their daughter, not actually living there!!
      All us taxpayers should be so thrilled that our hard earned taxes are going towards paying for a system that supports this girl so she can not live with her family and cause all this drama.

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      • Melissa

        Iagree with you on that one Bec. I don’t like my hard earned tax money going to someone who shouldn’t be playing out this situation in the first place

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      • Ren

        If St Kilda FC are paying for her hotel room than I doubt it that it is taxpayer money. More likely money from the club which was obtained through annual memberships/sponsorships and ticket sales.

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  11. Anon

    I think the 17 year old girl clearly has psychological issues… this does not excuse the actions of Nixon or any sports personality that winds up in this position… She may not have respect for herself but does it excuse those parties involved from taking advantage of her!?

    I dare say if this happened in the NRL this story would be talked about in a different light…

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    • Samantha

      Almost certainly

      It definately seems that the NRL cops it far worse from the media and the general public when it comes to these sorts of scandals.

      I have heard so many people defending a 47 year old man, who was filmed in his underwear, in a 17 year olds hotel room, the same underage girl he took alcohol. WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE ABOUT THAT? I dont care who she is, what she has done. It disgusts me.

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  12. Anon76

    I’m sorry but I fail to see how this girl can not be held responsible for her actions. Ricky Nixon will be, the AFL stars involved have been – essentially just having their names dragged through the mud and having their families upset by the whole event – so she, as the instigator and constant in all these events, should share the responsibility too.
    She is media savvy, she has an agenda here, why else would she film it and post it online? She even says,”This is gonna be good. Ricky Nixon is here.” True, he is a bloody d#@%head for doing what he has done and I’m sure his career will suffer but more importantly, his family will also suffer – did she think of those innocent victims in her little charade? I doubt it. She comes across as selfish and determined to have some sort of vengeance – for what though? Why has she decided to do this? I would be very concerned about her mental state right about now, these kinds of actions are irrational and downright scary. She seems hell bent on causing some major trouble but what does she really hope to gain from it?
    She is not some innocent, naive little girl who was duped into having sex with some footy stars and their entourage, she has a plan. These men seem to be pawns in her game and just because she is 17, doesn’t mean she has no idea what she is doing.

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    • Miss Kate Daily

      Oh my god I pressed ‘like’ when I meant to reply… What I was going to say in defence of this girl is that the adolescent brain hasn’t fully developed until the early twenties – even later for males – so to some degree I believe that yes, this girl doesn’t really have any idea what she is doing! The last part of the brain to develop is the part that thinks about consequences and curtails impulsivity – so I would have thought compared to a 17 year old who still has a lot of growing up to do, that Ricky Nixon is more in the wrong for not curtailing his impulses or thinking through the consequences of his actions.

      He is an ADULT, and in my eyes, he has wronged this girl. Yes, she may be troubled, misguided and even stupid, but for one she has no support from her parents at this time in her life (which I think is awful), and two, she is a teenager, a child in the eyes of the law, and Nixon is a man who at the very least thought it was a good idea to bring alcohol to speak with this young, presumably attractive girl and I think that alone is really gross and an abuse of his power and age over her.

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      • Melissa J

        The argument that her brain hasn’t developed fully can only go so far. She has been doing this for months and months, it’s no longer an impulse and the the consequences have pretty much been spelled out for her. I don’t think that’s an excuse. Or else every 17 year old would be doing stuff like this, and they’re not.

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        • Samantha

          Regardless of what she has done. It was a 47 year old man, who took alcohol to a 17 year olds hotel room, and stripped down to his undies. NOTHING IS ACCEPTABLE about that. But you know, its all HER fault because she should be old enough to not act so stupid. What about the 47 year old man?

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          • rainbow

            EXACTLY!! i am so sick of seeing comments that only criticise her actions. .

            ricky is 47, therefore having a hell of a lot more life experience. he is the biggest idiot in this.

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        • Claire

          @Melissa- Maybe they’re NOT doing stuff like this because they’ve been raised with love, through which they’ve developed a healthy self-esteem?

          Sorry, I don’t get your point. You seem to imply that, because she’s been doing this for “months and months”, she’s less worthy of our sympathy. I disagree. She’s a tragic case. I feel for her, I feel for her parents. The one person is all of this I don’t feel for? Ricky Nixon. Oh wait, Ricky Nixon, and the football players.

          Seriously…

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          • rainbow

            well said

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            • Anonymous

              Ricky was just a pawn in her game…she was hell bent on trapping him. No doubt hes a drongo but that girl was determined to prolong her ‘infamy’.

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      • Anonymous

        What a sleazy man!!

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  13. Mich

    What a mess.

    The girl clearly needs help. Can’t believe she hasn’t been sectioned until the mental health act yet. There is a lot more to this girl than what is being reported – thankfully for her sake.

    Clearly Ricky Nixon may want to seek mental health advice too. No man in his right mind would have gone anywhere near this girl given her history. His poor kids.

    I don’t lay the blame on the AFL for this. I blame a society in which girls see going to Starbar to pick up a footballer on Sunday night as a career move. Its not just limited to footballers though – in places like London & New York the big prizes are Bankers. Bag a Banker nights are big business and these guys are as bad as any sportsperson – just without the publicity.

    So much for the feminist movement!

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    • Victoria Vilches

      Having sex with stars makes you famous syndrome.
      But thats what WAGS mostly are.

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  14. Sharon

    $20 bucks says she’s on the cover of Zoo the moment she turns 18

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  15. Anon for once...

    Look, this story is crazy and the man has acted rather badly but she is 17 and legal so as I said today to my husband, who cares if she has sex with some old fart? If we didnt care so much then it wouldnt even be an issue and she wouldnt have done it in the first place.
    She is a fame hungry girl who is insatiable in her need to maybe prove herself? Bring others down in order to make herself feel better? And she obviously has issues.
    He is a dirty old man who stupidly put his cock somewhere that he knew he shoudlnt and took advantage of a girl who is obviously not making the most rational decisions in order to make her point-whatever that may be, but its all legal! (not the drugs and all that obviously)
    17 year old girls have sex all the time with people of all ages and all backgrounds but just because in this instance he happens to be connected to the AFL then its everywhere.
    Get the girl some counselling and move on.
    I know this wont be a popular view and I know I dont think like most other people, but its how I feel.

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    • Woobytwo

      Totally agree with your comments. Have just watched the videos she posted herself
      On YouTube and she is no angel… 17 is just a number, she knows exactly what she is doing and why. She is a modern day “Blackwidow” spider. Poison. I feel so sad for her family. What a wicked person she is.

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      • Lulu

        “Wicked”? “Poison”? Ricky, is that you?

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      • Enough

        She is clearly a troubled young woman. There is no one on her side other than the hungry media looking for a story…

        Where is your compassion?

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    • salvator sillitoe

      “He is a dirty old man who stupidly put his cock somewhere that he knew he shouldn’t”.

      Well so far Nixon has only admitted to “inappropriate” behaviour, by which he seems to be admitting he was stupid enough to allow himself to be in the same room as Nameless Girl without a witness for more than about 5 seconds.

      As usual Mia Freeman’s excellent gender-issues forum is sabotaged by prejudiced, small-minded comments from people who are in no position to judge.

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  16. clarinette

    How is she ever going to find a real partner if noone will have sex with her ever again for fear of being blackmailed? guess she didn’t think of that one…

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    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately as Nixon showed… these men ARE stupid enough to do it again.

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      • WillaWay

        Why does everyone keep calling him stupid, rather than arrogantly sure he won’t get caught, careless of his family’s feelings and future, disrespectful of women and children, and floating in the hyper-inflated world of ego-unreality that is the celebrity culture of the AFL?

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  17. Kelly

    This post is really disappointing to read. You’ve written a post about a 17 year old girl, a teenager, speculating about ‘what point a 17 year old girl is responsible for her own actions’ in other words ‘How much should we blame this teenage girl for her own exploitation?’

    This has basically invited your readers to speculate as to her decision making, her mental stability. Indeed, it seems many are assessing her as an ‘opportunist’, ‘attention seeking’ etc. Are you happy that you’ve given people a forum to talk about a teenage girl in this way?

    Your post and the comments following, remind me of the victim blaming that went on after the Matthew Johns scandal in New Zealand.

    I’m baffled that a grown woman would choose to use this teenage girl as gossip fodder.

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    • vicki

      Back up a bit, This girl brought her business into the the public forum. You too are discussing it. This is how we as a society learn, form opinions and have them changed due to reading other points of view. I have talked about this with my 15 yo son.
      Since becoming a university student and becoming more aware of gender and power of media my my views have changed. Notice how the man is an a fool but the young girl is a W**re for instance.
      So Kelly this is not gossip fodder, facts put into the open are not gossip it is an open forum discussion. You can choose not to enter into it.

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      • Kelly

        Actually Vicki, I’m not discussing the girl. I’m discussing Mia’s decision to gossip about a teenage girl. Mia has printed much more than ‘facts put in the open’ she has printed an open invitation to heap judgment on the girl, an invitation many readers have happily taken up.

        For example, since I wrote my original comment, someone has commented above, “How is she ever going to find a real partner if noone will have sex with her ever again for fear of being blackmailed? guess she didn’t think of that one…” Facts in the open? Lets not pretend.

        Even if she did ‘bring her business into a public forum’ since when do we allow troubled teenagers to set the standard of behaviour for adults?

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    • rainbow

      i disagree. for me this post highlights the fact that after numerous scandals the AFL still have no idea about treating women respectfully.

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      • Kelly

        I can’t disagree with that comment rainbow. However Mia says:

        “But there seem to be many men travelling in and out of this story. The constant is the 17 year old girl.”

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        • rainbow

          but lets not forget where this began. when a schoolgirl met some footballers at an AFL visit to the school. that is where it should have ended.

          she is angry, pretty messed up and appears to have no support.

          enter ricky nixon stage left to offer support, and look what ends up happening..

          if my 17year old son or daughter was in a relationship with a 47 year old i would be less than impressed, and especially given these circumstances.

          it just makes me sad that we so quickly judge her, when she is a young, unstable, immature girl, who doesn’t appear to have anyone really helping her. what a great society we live in that we all judge her and blame her. how different is that to when people complain that girls who dress skimpily asked to be raped? who is offering to help her? what psychological and emotional support is she getting?

          what the f%ck happened to the sisterhood?????

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          • rainbow

            kelly my comment isn’t directed to you :)

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          • yos

            thanks rainbow, I agree. we can’t oversimplfy and label this girl an attention-seeker. it de-values the layers and complexity inherent in any person or situation. we have to look deeper to see the motivations for her actions from her perspective, not a snap judgement of her behaviour and how it seems from the outside.

            as for Nixon… there are certain people who have the power AND moral obligation to do the right thing and when they don’t others suffer.

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          • Nora

            Not so quick to judge her, she’s been causing trouble for a while now and has been offered a lot of support, hell they’re even paying for her living arrangements.

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            • rainbow

              but my point is, are the people that are paying for her living arrangements there to help and support her, or just manipulate her even more?

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    • Mia

      Kelly, I didn’t “choose” this girl. She chose to make herself the story again and again and again by repeatedly pursuing the media, lying, stealing photos of naked players.
      I know this makes some people uncomfortable because she is under 18 but I don’t think that excuses you from all responsibility for your actions.
      You can legally have sex at 16. You can legally marry!

      So I’m cautious about just simplifying everything down to she’s a child and a victim.

      This is certainly a murky, sordid, tawdry story with no winners. But it is not the job of the media to decide what should and should not be discussed or written about.

      When I wrote this post, I was confident in the ability of Mamamia readers to discuss this story intelligently and – in the most part – respectfully. We have deleted any comments that breached those guidelines – like we do with all comments.

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      • Kelly

        Just because a young girl has made poor decisions, doesn’t excuse you from making a better decision not to cause further harm to the girl and her family. You are not exempt from ethics and yes, you do get to choose what to ‘discuss’ and write about. You do that every day on your blog.

        Your post is not a news article, but a gossip column. You say you’ve removed offensive comments, but I note there are a lot of very judgmental comments directed at the girl still on the forum and they will keep coming because that is what you have invited. An ‘opportunist’, ’15 minutes of fame,’ exactly the same type of language directed at all women who make complaints about sexual assault from footballers.

        Using the ‘legal age’ argument is a very poor excuse for exploitation.

        The girl is clearly damaged, engaged in very unhealthy behaviours and relationships. She is only 17 and yet you still chose to invite ‘discussion’ even though nobody here knows her background or what has brought her to this point.

        Very poor form.

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        • Anon

          Um Kelly? You’re a legend! Loving your input, I’d click “like” 1000 times if I could.

          xxx

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      • Dale

        Hi Mia,
        I agree that this was a topical story, and in the context of young women and social media, very relevant and worthy of debate.
        I do think though, that this young woman will most certainly have to take responsibility for her actions. It may not be now, but sadly for her, she will pay for this period in her life forever. I feel strongly that she deserves our compassion. Having said that, I don’t condone ANY of her actions.
        And I do think that her age makes a difference here.
        Good work Mia, I don’t think I really agree with you on this one but really enjoy your blog.

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      • Today

        Just wondering about your comment “she chose to make herself the story again and again” Mia…Not disputing that may have been her intention, but I am questioning how she can suddenly be controlling the media. Doesn’t the media decide what gets printed, screened etc etc? It seems unlikely that she is a one-woman PR machine, so why is she getting all this airtime? There are plenty of people who would love this kind of exposure, so what is it about this girl that makes her in control? Which is a really long winded way of saying isn’t this more about the media, than the girl?

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    • salvator sillitoe

      At the risk of being a wimp, this is a messy issue that Mia Freeman was brave to bring up.I can see both points of view – yes, she’s only a teen, not even old enough to vote, and at the same time on the cusp of adulthood and already old enough to consent to sex and to get married. In other words, 17 is a transitional age between childhood and adulthood.

      The main people to be condemned here are commenters who’ve decided to believe absolutely everything she says, despite the fact she’s previously shot her credibility to pieces by admitting to lying. Have some common sense, people. If this girl made similar accusations against your husband, son, boyfriend, fiance or best friend, would you automatically assume she was telling the truth, given knowledge of her difficult relationship with truth-telling? I suspect not.

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    • Petal

      Teenage girl? Yes, she is 17, but it’s a little different to being 13. Mia is a social commentator – and this is what is going on at the moment. Yes, she has given people a forum for talking about a teenage girl – but, from water coolers to the internet, people are talking about it anyway.

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  18. salvator sillitoe

    Wait till this girl gets into the workforce and realises the potential havoc she can cause with the sexual harrassment laws…

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    • Chrissy

      Whoa, whoa, whoa… you cant seriously be suggesting what I think you are about victims of sexual harrassment are you???

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      • salvator sillitoe

        Of course I’m not saying anything of the sort and it’s mischievous of you to suggest that. I’m pointing out that sex harrassment laws – while necessary to help the many genuine victims – are also, sadly, open to abuse by people of low integrity.

        Ie. they are a way for obsessive or immature people with grudges against their boss or other employees to bring them low. These cases so often rely on a simple said/he-said standard of evidence that is extremely hard to prove or disprove. And mud, once hurled, tends to stick.

        That’s certainly not to deny that sexual harrssment is a problem, and an ugly one at that.

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  19. Sharon

    It can definitely be said that the 17 year old girl is an attention seeker, probably looking for a bit of fame.

    The 47 year old man however is a dirty pig, how stupid is he after he saw what happened to his own client to actually go out and involve himself in any way shape or form with a 17 year old girl.

    They’re both idiots.

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    • vicki

      Lets make something clear, she has not been paid for any interviews. She clearly needs accomodations and has been able to secure it. The girl is hurt, angry, lost or aborted a pregnancy, throw grieving in with it. So far reaching out for help has not helped, the person who was meant to be do so, also abused her.
      There is no indication her motives are fame.

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      • Sharon

        Hi Vicki,

        I suggest you go and look at her Twitter account and tell me that she isn’t fame seeking. It is easy enough to find with a bit of googling.

        Basically she gloats about who she has interviews with, about making it on the front page of newspapers, she requests media outlets contact her, she tweets what appears to be text messages from RN. It’s quite appaling.

        She’s 17 and she needs proper guidance, its hard to know right from wrong at that age but there is no doubt in my mind she likes the attention.

        I still think RN is a complete idiot. I mean come on, your client has his life turned upside down by this girl and he goes and jumps into her bed half naked. I stand by what i said earlier, they’re both idiots.

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        • Sharon

          Sorry i know there are spelling errors in my post above, i’m tired and it’s 1am and i cant be stuffed fixing them.

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        • yos

          I think she may like the attention right now, but I also feel that she is playing a part. She says she feels powerful right now, but I think deep down, as evidenced from the radio interview above she is quite sad about the way her life has gone and she is on the “I’m ok” defensive. She is doing a great job of putting that face on everything she does, but I think it’s too easy to say that she is an attention-seeker, wanting fame at any cost.

          I know how I felt at that age with no parental guidance and though I did not take her route, I certainly did things just to “prove” that I didn’t need anyone or that I was in control of my own life, only in hindsight you realise you are deluding yourself.

          Anyway, I can’t help but have compassion for this girl. Echoing my sentiment from an earlier comment, I’m kind of glad she is shedding light on the way women are treated in certain circles, if nothing else the fact that she won’t go away has forced a lot of us to rethink our perspectives on these issues. Most girls/women in her position are less than eager to share their experiences for fear of being labelled or thought of/discussed in a similar way to this girl.

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      • Woobytwo

        You obviously have not watched her videos she posted herself on YouTube. She knows exactly what she is doing and why. 17 is just a number. This woman is wicked to the core. I feel for her family.

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  20. Angela

    Wow, my comments were deleted.
    Don’t really find that fair…

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    • salvator sillitoe

      Probably because they were potentially defamatory. I don’t suppose that’s a concept you normally need to think about much, but I bet Mia Freeman and her moderators do. Their decision was wise.

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      • Angela

        Was told on Twitter that the comment breached rules. Will have to be more careful next time!

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  21. Claire C

    Noone but the two of them know what really went on, we can all only speculate. He may well prove to be a stupid old sleaze but equally she may prove to be an opportunistic tart – we may never know the truth. But as it doesn’t affect any of us directly, do we really need to know other that to satisfy our love of a juicy sex scandal? I feel sorry for Ricky Nixon’s family, imagine what they must be going through. Why doesn’t everyone just mind their own business and stop speculating on the girl’s state of mind, on Ricky’s motives and what really went on in the hotel room etc etc. It’s not news, so I reckon that everyone (me included) should stop trying to psychoanalyse the situation and leave the parties to sort out their own sordid mess.

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    • Aloha

      He is a silly stupid sleaze…and she is a blatant opportunist.

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  22. Ian

    The girl needs help (all sorts of help) and the video footage that TEN and Fairfax have published is pretty unhelpful for Nixon. I don’t think it’s wholly pre-meditated on her part – judging by her Twitter account, her U-stream videos, and her Formspring answers – she isn’t that smart – and I don’t think she’s at all psychologically stable.

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  23. salvador sillitoe

    “the girl who last year released nude photos of St Kilda AFL players Nick Riewoldt, Zac Dawson and Nick Dal Santo, claiming she had taken them (and then later admitting she hadn’t)”

    So she’s an admitted liar. In a strictly legal sense, nothing else she says can be taken at face value. Her credibility as a witness in any potential court case is in ruins.

    Therefore any accusation she makes against an AFL figure should not be played out in the court of public opinion, regardless of how desperate we are to believe the male cited has behaved scandalously.

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  24. Minnie

    I have followed this story vaguely, as it being to do with football players it doesn’t really interest me, but after reading Mia’s blog and the ‘Fifi & Jules’ interview all I can say is – where the hell were her parents as this was happening and why haven’t they stepped in and stopped her path of self-destruction. You can clearly hear from the interview that she is a clueless 17 year old – one minute she thinks she wants to join the police, the next she wants to be a journalist and not to mention it sounds like she was also a good athlete…. Surely, there was some point early on were her parents could have stepped in – she talks about how she would go out drinking when she would have only been about 16 and I know that this is a common occurence, I’m not that naive, but parents know what goes on and it seems to me that these parents chose to ignore it until they couldn’t and have then abandoned ship.

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  25. missmac

    And on another note, I don’t understand the people that hop on this blog and bag Mia, attack her decisions to run stories and generally behave like bullies because they’re “anonymous” behind their online identities. Not cool at all.

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  26. Wil

    As far as I’m concerned, the AFL created this monster. It was their players who met her at a school footy clinic. Who got her pregnant and (allegedly) abandoned her, only for her to lose the child. Who ridiculed her in the media when it became public, hiding behind the fact that as an underage woman she could not be named. This despite the fact that everyone in her community knew exactly who she was. When they refused to set the record straight, she took justice into her own hands with the photos. It’s all gone too far now and she obviously has no idea how to stop it, and has become addicted to the attention. It’s her power. Is she her own worst enemy? Clearly. Has a vulnerable girl been prayed on by those associated with the AFL yet again? Yes. She has done more to expose the hypocracy and sexism of the AFL than anybody else before her, and she may have ruined her life in the process.

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    • Jim

      Um… lots of teenagers get pregnant and have their ‘boyfriends’ (or one night stands) leave them. That’s how this all started. This isn’t the AFLs monster at all. She chose to sleep with the guy, like many teenage girls choose to sleep with their boyfriends. He just happens to be an AFL player. Who was only a couple of years older than her (aren’t 16 year old girl and 19 year old guy relationships common?). This wouldn’t even be a news story if he wasn’t an AFL player…. it’s just an all too common teenage love story with a media angle that she has chosen to exploit.

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      • Will

        Yeah, but they met at an event in which he was representing the AFL. An event at a school. This wasn’t two teenagers meeting at a milk bar. He was in a position of authority, and I would think most people can see a very clear line was crossed. He also breeched the AFL code of conduct, and in any case should have had more sense that to sleep with a school girl considering how players are scutinized. He was also seemingly more than happy to have his club come out to defend him when he found out she was pregnant.

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        • Petal

          Come on – he was a 19 year old guy. What do most 19 year old guys think about?

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        • Jim

          I used to be a teacher and do you know how often this happens? All the time. Do you know how many young teachers end up marrying former students (keeping the relationship very quiet until a they’ve been out of school a couple of years). It’s a common theme that relationships start in school visits between lots of people. This is why relationships have to be declared to the Department of Education in each state. It’s really not so unusual.
          My partner, who is also a teacher, got asked in her drama class the other day, ‘Miss, if Dave* is 18 and he’s sleeping with Mel* and she’s 14, is that rape? Can he be charged?’. Who’s Dave? A visiting drama grad who’s been helping out the class. The relationship is being pursued outside of school and aside from parents being informed (and them making a complaint to police if they choose to), there’s nothing that can be done. People meet in all kinds of places, school just being one of them. Seriously, you wouldn’t believe what happens, it’s a hormonal melting pot.

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    • Bru

      Well said Wil.

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    • Mary

      Easily the best post I’ve read on this Wil. I understand that the girl was only 16 at the time she met the players at the school clinic meaning that there was an awful breach of duty of care by the AFL or St Kilda. It is why St Kilda were so keen to have the girl say that she didn’t meet the players until after the Sydney game.

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  27. Emma

    I’m 21 and I can already look back to when I was 16/17 and I thought I was the ‘top shit’ – nothing outside my own little world affected me! Luckily I never got caught out and none the stupid things I did had any lasting consequences but they easily could have…. It seems to me that most teenagers go through this stage and the fact that she’s going through it publically is unfortunate. She was naive when she first got involved with the footballers and she got burnt, badly! Hundreds of commanders on online newspapers etc called her a ‘slut’ and a ‘whore’ (and worse) for getting pregnant after sleeping with 2 different footballers! She then lost the child and in her mind she wanted revenge-after all, her life had been completely turned upside-down and forever changed-whilst the footballers involved life’s hadn’t changed at all. I done agree with how she’s handled things in the media- but I will admit that I can understand why she felt the need to get revenge… Also Nixon is 47 and should I’ve enough life experience not to get involved, in any capacity, with someone who has stated many times that they want revenge on the people he represents! FYI on my iPhone and watching wil Anderson DVD so sorry for rambelling

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  28. Karyn Adelaide

    I agree with you Mia however with Paris (already famous because of her family name) and Kim Kardashian (they already had the reality show in the works with E! before the sex tape came out) it is different.

    This young girl – and others like her – pursue fame (or notoriety) because they think it is the best possible life for them. And one of the comments below is right – there is the mentality there’s the girls you sleep with and the girls you marry. It may not be right but it is there.

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    • Bo

      Thank you!!! I’m so sick of everyone saying Kim is only famous for the sex tape. I’ve actually read that there was problems going ahead with the reality show BECAUSE of the tape development. By perpetuating this myth, you’re perpetuating the idea that sex tape = fame. In reality it can be very upsetting and damaging for those involved.

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      • Sharon

        The sex tape helped though

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        • Bo

          How? Think about the key demographic of people who watch online sex tapes. And then think of the key demographic who watch Kim’s shows and buy her products (clothes,shoes etc). Doesn’t exactly match up does it?

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          • Anne

            I have personally seen Kim promote her sex tape on chanel E a few years back so it couldn’t have been that damaging and upsetting for her. I don’t remember her at all prior to the tape and now she is on the cover of every magazine so it has certainly helped her get fame.

            The demogrpahic of people who watched her tape and who buy her products may be different but how would have the people who now buy her products ever heard of her if she didn’t use the tape to get famous and consequently score a reality TV show? She certainly milked it for all it was worth.

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            • Bo

              I think she made the best of a bad situation. I watch E pretty much constantly and I can’t say that I have ever seen her “promote” the sex tape – she almost never talks about it and when she does its with a lot of embarrassment. I think we’ll have to agree to not agree.

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            • Bo

              also, the reality show had begun filming before the tape was released.

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      • salvator sillitoe

        So we’re on first-name terms with “Kim”, are we? She doesn’t know you; wouldn’trecognise you from a bar of soap.

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        • Lana

          Salvator I think the commenters are referring to Kim Kardashian

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          • salvator sillitoe

            Obviously.

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        • Karyn Adelaide

          When a name has already been mentioned in the comment that is being replied to it is common to just use the first name. Especially when there is only one Kim named in this story.

          Why the aggression Salvator?

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          • salvator sillitoe

            Aggression? Where did THAT one come from?! You seem to be missing the point: Mia has set up this post as a discussion on whether the obsession with reality TV and fame-for-doing-nothing has a deleterious influence on youngsters – with reference to the girl in the AFL case. The irony of a reader talking about Kim Kardashian, a reality TV star, as “Kim”, as if she personally knew her, seems to have passed you by.

            “When a name has already been mentioned in the comment that is being replied to it is common to just use the first name.”

            Really? Show us where Nixon is being referred to by his first name, please. If you read Mia’s post, she doesn’t even give him a Christian name. She just introduces him as “Nixon”! I’ve no idea what his real first name is. Seriously. So for consistency’s sake, can we please call the reality TV non-entity simply “Kardashian”? “Kim” is not our buddy. Or “bestie”.

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            • Bo

              Hey salvator, pipe down.

              If its “obvious” that I was referring to Kim Kardashian then why are you getting so aggressive? Don’t you have better things to do than pick fights over something this petty? Clearly not.

              I referred to her by her first name, big deal. We all knew who I meant. It certainly doesn’t mean that I’m “besties” with her or that I’m claiming to know her on a personal level. Where ever did I say that???

              I think the link between me referring to Kim Kardashian as “Kim” and the actions of the 17 year old at the heart of this scandal are tenuous, to say the absolute least. To put it mildly, you’re creating issues where they don’t exist and its tiresome. Grow up.

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            • Anne

              What the hell are you on about Salvatore? Everyone seems to get it except you.

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  29. Eva*

    He knew exactly what he was doing.
    She knew exactly what she was doing.
    Neither took into consideration the fallout of their actions.
    Just a sad, sad, beat up story.

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    • Angela

      Pretty sure she knew what the consquences were going to be.
      She planned and she took certain actions to ensure that she would get adequate attention. Why do you think she has photos of Ricky Nixon in his underwear? For masturbation material?

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      • Eva*

        In her case, I’m pretty sure she hasn’t taken into consideration the long term fallout. Although I can’t predict the future, I’m pretty sure that her actions are going to bite her on the bum in the months and years that lie ahead.

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      • rainbow

        isn’t the more important question: why do you think ricky nixon was in his underwear?

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        • salvator sillitoe

          Because he was hot?

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          • rainbow

            i’m sure that is what his press release will say

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  30. Bo

    Before I read the rest of the story, I’ll just say this Mia:

    I think it is misleading to insinuate that you’ve taking the moral high ground by choosing not to revel her name, when in actual fact you’re bound to by law. There’s a difference.

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    • Mia

      I wonder if anyone can ask this genuine question:

      if media are not allowed to reveal her identity because she’s a minor, how come Corey Worthington’s face and name was plastered from here to Timbucktoo when he was in the news?

      I’m not being sarcastic, I’m genuinely interested.

      As far as I understand (correct me if wrong), this girl is not the victim of a crime, is she? I’m not saying she should be named.
      But I worry tremendously what will happen when she is no longer protected by her age.

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      • Bo

        I’ll preface this response by stating for the record that I am only a law *student* and not a *lawyer*. If there any lawyers up in here then feel free to correct me. (Please!!)

        I haven’t been following this case particularly closely (when I don’t HAVE to read law precedents I usually watch the kardashians) but from what I understand this girl is a minor and also an alleged victim of sexual misconduct.

        As you pointed out Mia, suppression of identity does not apply to every minor in the public eye. I think the issue here is that the girl is at the centre of an investigation of sexual misconduct, which has led to a suppression order of her name when reporting by the media.

        It could also come under a privacy clause – which can both be found in the media regulatory bodies of The Press Council & The MEAA.

        There are severe repercussions for media organisations which breach supression orders. Jane Doe vs. ABC is a classic example – wherein the ABC broadcast the identity of a young woman who had being the victim of sexual assault. She won her case.I understand that this young woman is not attempting to hide her identity in the least, yet supression orders exist for her benefit. She may not feel the same way in 10 or 20 years.

        My original point is that you – as Queen of this website – have the right to publish or not publish particular information at your discretion. However, when a blanket suppression order is placed on all media, you no longer have that choice. So I think its inaccurate to say “we’ve chosen not to” is all.

        (I’m actually embarrased by this response as I’ve been out of uni for four months over summer vacation and my brain has turned to mush. I could probably write you a kick-ass essay on this when my brain starts to work again next week haha)

        Peace x

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      • vicki

        I found her identiy easy to locate via the web.

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        • Bo

          obviously the web is much, much harder to regulate.

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  31. Maj

    While I think she’s doing a good job of destroying her life, which is horrible, I kind of can’t help but want to cheer on her ripping down of the low-life crap that is organised sport’s mentality.

    What I find amazing is the low standards everyone seems to have for footballers’ behaviour. So many comments along the lines of this is all you can expect from men/footballers makes me sick. Like men are naturally animals and it is womens’ place to protect themselves from them – then complain when ppl live up to that. Then we’ve got a society that says ‘equality’ and everyone is suddenly surprised when girls start living up to the same low expectations we set for men.

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    • Jules

      Low standards for footballers behaviour? This girl STOLE photos of one of the games most respected, hard-working and most well-behaved players (Nick R.) and released them to the media. He is a shining example of what football players SHOULD be as role models and had nothing to do with this girl and her situation (if this is even true as she lied about where she got the photos from).
      Of course footballers have to be held accountable for their behaviour but to suggest that women (or a girl in this case) should lie and steal to achieve this is ridiculous.

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      • rainbow

        did you see the photo? if i was in any way famous i wouldn’t stand naked with a group of guys and let someone take my photo. if he is a shining example then we are worse off than i realised

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        • Jules

          That was a personal photo. If he chooses to stand around naked with a group of guys what business is it of ours? Is he not allowed to have personal life? He’s not running around the streets doing it. He’s not involving anyone against their will or lying and stealing. That’s what personal photos are for – to be personal. I have a gay friend who is a wonderful person who is quite prominent in the sydney community and I’m sure he’s got loads of photos standing around naked with guys. Does that change his dedication to charity work? No. Does it change how hard he works in his career? No. In Nick’s case, it doesn’t change the hard work he puts into his career either. He was a good role model before this. Personal photos should stay personal and shouldn’t be stolen by low-lifes on some kind of sick revenge fantasy ride.

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          • rainbow

            in this day and age of digital photos and digital media, i wouldn’t be pulling my di#k out in front of my mates for a photo. i know a lot of guys too and can sure as hell tell you they don;t take photos like that!!

            lesson number 1 for famous footy players”
            keep you d#ck in your pants!!!!

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            • Mich

              You are missing the point – the girl STOLE these photos – that he posed for them is of no relevance whatsoever. The bloke had nothing to do with this girl yet she felt she was entitled to steal and then publish persoanl photos of him online. Whilst you may not get your boobs or your di*k out for personal photos, how would you feel if someone you had never even met published something incredibly private about you.

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            • salvator sillitoe

              Why not? They get naked with each in the shower every time they play a game. And I think you’re forgetting that women sports journalists fought for the right to gain access to male dressing rooms to conduct post-match interviews (on the basis that male reporters were allowed). So being naked in front of team-mates and women in a non-sexual context is quite normal for footy players. Even the boofheads.

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      • Maj

        Well I did say “kind of”. Any major change or shift in attitudes will have casualties – but don’t worry I’m sure that she’s going to be destroyed a hell of a lot more than Nick will ever be. Who else is going to put themselves through crap to expose this culture for what it is… another more worthy girl that attracts compassion? More often than not people play the person instead of looking at the wider issues at play.

        Saint Nick’s little ‘us and them’ speech at the Saints AGM was exactly the kind of sickening circling of the wagons that does nothing but act to protect a sick culture. That’s what I’m talking about. A culture that our society has for some reason bought into being, if not acceptable, at least expected. I am so often just flabbergasted by extent of the blind spot.

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        • Jules

          It’s not about being worthy. It’s simply about telling the truth. It’s this kind of behaviour that brings into question REAL complaints against footballers.

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          • Maj

            I don’t doubt that her lies bring into question real complaints, but I don’t think real complaints have been treated well in any case before her.

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        • Mich

          You seem to forget that this girl was a willing sexual participant. She’s not a victim. She made a decision to sleep with who she slept with.

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  32. chloe

    this is soooooooo boring. snore

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  33. missmac

    Far out! The whole situation defies belief. Fascinated to know why News Limited think it’s appropriate to pay for her accommodation so that they can then make money from selling her story. Anybody holding them accountable??

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  34. Julie Davis

    I am conflicted, as this girl is doing as much as she can to get herself known and yet from her radio interview she seems lost. Her parents should be found & flogged for leaving her on her own. Clearly she is in need of a family. She ‘likes’ her parents? Seriously! How long has it been since she was in a family I wonder?
    It stands to reason if she has been abandoned by those who are meant to love and care for her, she will look for it elsewhere.
    She is a good manipulator of social media. I suspect she wants someone to ‘out’ her. She really needs someone to care about her.
    As for Nixon, if he did have sex with her, does this mean he can be charged with stat rape? I was of the understanding the age gap couldn’t be that great under 18?
    Even so the man is a tool and deserves to lose everything.

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  35. Caroline

    I am a bit appalled that this teenager is seen as a manipulator of these events by some.

    As a teenager I was very vulnerable in so many ways. I was not mature enough to know many things about worth, love and men. Listening to her on the radio evoked a vision of a lost young woman who is continuing to lose her way…

    …the AFL are ripe to be completely overhauled, what idiocy, immaturity and lack of integrity. SHAME.

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    • Julie Davis

      Hi Caroline,
      I think she is a manipulator. However, I think she has learned this to survive and to find love, affection and attention that perhaps she didn’t have at home.
      I am with you, at her age I was not mature, but did know how to manipulate certain situations to my advantage.
      I do feel for her, as I too think she is lost. quite sad.

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      • Caroline

        I agree with you and your previous comment. However, the idea that she is manipulating things to her advantage I don’t see in the greater scheme of things. I may be proved wrong and when she turns 18 she may land a very lovely TV spot as a presenter on Getaway….however, if she were happy, well-adjusted and *felt* loved most probably she would not feel the need to do the things she is currently doing.

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        • Jules

          I think she is a great manipulator and disillusioned. As I just saw her say on the 7.30 Report, ‘I don’t know why people think I’m vulnerable or need help. Right now I feel powerful’. She is completely misguided and I don’t think anyone in the media will touch her for a role like Getaway (well, maybe channel 7…). I wish the media would leave her alone and refuse to give her anymore air time.
          Ricky Nixon on the other hand deserves to lose his AFL players licence if only for bringing the game into disrepute. She’s 17, so legally I don’t think he can be charged with anything (other than perhaps supplying a minor with alcohol if they can prove it).

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  36. Bradley

    Mia, you were quite correct. After reading this article I needed to take a shower.

    Help save water. It’s a valuable resource. No more of this trash. Thank you. :)

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  37. Kelly

    This girl has been running an agenda from the beginning. She pursued the footballers originally because she liked the idea of fame, money and their lifestyle. She’s freely admitted that. But it didn’t turn out the way she hoped (like it was ever going to) because despite advances in society there is still a difference between women men will sleep with and women men will marry. I think she hoped to be the latter, but she ended up the former. At such an impressionable age I think it’s damaged her emotionally and it seems mentally. It’s like she can’t comprehend why a man (or many men in this case) would use her.
    Her ultimate solution has of course been those things we’ve seen played out in the media over the last 8 months from the pregnancy, to the photo’s and now this. I can’t say whether the pregnancy was real because there seems to be a lack of evidence to prove it one way or the other. But it could have been the first cry for attention or a desperate ploy to hold onto the footballer boyfriend after he had tired of her. The rest just seems to have spiraled out of control with her desire for revenge.
    My real concern for her, apart from her general state of mind and immediate welfare, is her apparent lack of understanding how this is going to follow her for the rest of her life. Yes the media have not published her name, but if you’re just mildly internet savvy you know her name, you’ve seen her image and you’ve followed her tweets. She will never escape this, and I don’t think she has realised this. She’s said many times that she wants a career in Journalism, I think that her profile and reputation may work against her.
    As for Ricky Nixon, what a complete idiot. He knew her form, he should have had some clue. He’s old enough to be her father, what on earth was he thinking?

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  38. protecting my identity

    I feel really sorry for her. To have have this reputation at 17, i can only see her life getting worse and not better.

    I think its disgraceful that the parents have “given up” on her. My own parents havent always liked/respected/supported my choices but they have always supported me. I always knew no matter what i did they would be there for me. Its sad to think that a young girl doesnt have that.

    Where is her self worth? I think parents and schools need to focus more on improving kids self esteem and life skills, not just focusing on academic abilities.

    I definitely think social media has given kids bad ideas. Thinking that being provocative makes you popular or happy.

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  39. peter rabbit

    Mia, I actually hoped and wished that you chose to NOT talk about this again. I feel that if the media stopped giving this story air time it will run out of steam. I have more respect for the few news organizations that have chosen to ignore this latest instalment. How about someone in the industry contact this girls and offer her help with no stings attached. Get her the help she needs and let the police and the courts be the judges on who is wrong and who is right.

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    • Bradley

      Well said.

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    • GuestWA

      I agree.

      Since she is of legal age to consent this is not news. Who cares who is sleeping with whom, or who isn’t sleeping with whom, unless you’re immediately involved with the people.

      There has been no crime committed, no offence against the public. Just troubled relationships.

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    • Caroline

      It seems the AFL men haven’t run out of steam and until they do it is important to keep reporting these incidents until the entire culture is on it’s knees frankly.

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      • peter rabbit

        If anyone has had something illegal done to them, by all means they must go to the police and report it. Let the police and the courts determine innocents or guilt, not the media.By discussing this story here and on other media networks we are not solving anything or helping anyone, it serves no purpose. Let the proper authorities deal with it.

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        • Caroline

          That is fair enough, I had not considered this a legal issue. it would certainly be better for the teenager that it be dealt only as a legal issue.

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        • Mia

          Peter Rabbit, I understand what you’re saying but the media are not moral protectors of society. It is not their place to decide who should be saved from themself and it’s also not their role to ‘solve’ or ‘help’ anyone.
          Whether a crime has been commited or not (has it?), it’s still a relevant story, even if it’s distasteful (and it is!).

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          • peter rabbit

            Thanks for taking the time to reply. I totally understand that the media is not here to be a moral compass and save someone from themselves, but wouldn’t it be a novel thing if the media did use a moral compass themselves sometimes and use some form of moral judgement as to whether a story really needs to be thrust into the public minds. Us knowing about all this is not going to alter the outcome but it is going to ruin a lot of innocent peoples lives. Just because the media, usually doesn’t work by a moral code, does not mean that someone, somewhere can make a start and show some balls. Isn’t there someone from the media somewhere who can stand up and say, you know what? we don’t need to publish this story, let’s leave it to the police and the authorities to deal with. If all media stopped taking calls from this girl and kept referring her onto the police she will loose her audience and might be able to finally get the help she needs. Stop selling the drug to the drug addict.

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            • tastebud

              I like where you are coming from PR.

              I’ve never understood why the media and it’s tycoons consistenly use their power for evil and not good :( Instead they’d rather pander to the lowest common denominator in us all.

              It’s incredibly difficult to imagine they’d make that much less cash reporting only real news? Certainly enough to still eat at the same restaurants, order the same coffee, travel to the same holiday destinations….. baffling.

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    • Mia

      Peter Rabbit,
      the only problem is that whenever the media packs up and goes home (or turns away) she turns up the volume. She takes to social media or she approaches news organisations with new photos or new allegations.

      To be fair to the media, is it their job to protect a 17yo girl from herself? I think they are doing an admirable job of disguising her identity and her name but it would be very hard not to report on this story…….

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      • Wendy

        Look at the role the paparazzi have in Hollywood, or even Facebook. Once upon a time, you did something stupid and it wasn’t recorded for all the world to see.

        These days, you get plastered or you do something particularly stupid, and someone is there to record it, and post it online, in the media for all posterity. Who knows who will judge you for a moment’s complete stupidity?

        The young are both media savvy and naive. They may know how to engage the media and grab it’s attention – but they may not understand the nature of the shark they’re trying to feed. You can offer yourself up as a meal, but you may not be in charge of the dish that is served.

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  40. Catherine

    Well she may have psychological problems, but she has shown that she is calculating and manipulative. Dr Phil would say “There are no victims, only volunteers”.

    Ricky Nixon needs a lobotomy and so does any footballer who gets within 5 meters of her

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  41. Bernadette Morley

    Geez I wish this girl had someone older she looked up to and respected. Clearly right now, this would probably be best if it were a woman. Then maybe, she would take their advice. Some heavy stuff has happened to her. Regardless of who, what, where, it baffles me why the fix here was to put her up in a Hotel and not insist that she had professional help.

    I’ve been following her on twitter and I can’t help but be fascinated and worried all at the same time. I want her to be helped. And I want more people to use their brains. And not their nether regions.

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    • Bradley

      To respect others, you have to first respect yourself.

      This girl does not respect herself.

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      • Merryl

        And she needs professional help. She desperately needs it. But at 17, she can’t be forced into it, it has to be her choice.

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    • Claire C

      How about stop feeding her obsession with all this and don’t follow her on Twitter – I can assure you that it’s not helping the situation, but only warping her sense of reality even more.

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        Well said, Claire C.

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  42. samantha

    I am seriously disturbed by this story.

    Clearly this girl has mental and emotional issues. We don’t know whether he engaged in a sexual relationship with her. Why was the girl set up in a hotel room in the first place?

    I know she is 17, but at 47 he really should know better!

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    • Claire C

      The Herald Sun put her up in the hotel, I’m sure she is a nice little story generator ie paper seller for them. He should know better, be’s been very dumb about it all.

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      • rainbow

        do you think they put her in the hotel then had one of their “journo’s” stalk it out?

        gosh that would make a story!

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        • Mich

          Yes, that is exactly what happened. It’s all very sordid indeed.

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  43. The Kraut

    Mia, this is not what ‘we’ have created, this is what ‘she’ has created.

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    • Mia

      I mean that we have created a culture among some girls where fame and media attention is the pinnacle of achievement. They could be forgiven for thinking it’s the road to wealth and success…..Paris? Kardashians?
      There are so many shows on E! and commercial TV that make stars of girls whose lives are train wrecks.
      My fear is that this girl has her actual life confused with a semi-scripted reality show.

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      • Melissa J

        Hmmmmm. If she’s truly stupid enough to think that Paris Hilton is the pinnacle of achievement then I think all hope is lost. Those reality shows are pure escapism. I reckon a 17 year old is absolutely old enough to know the difference.

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        • vicki

          I like your point Mia. I think people much older have a hard time accepting this point.

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      • salvator sillitoe

        Mia I am a bit concerned that so few people have responded to your intellectually provocative point, which is I think a good one.

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  44. peter rabbit

    One thing I know for sure, if any of my kids came home with a note saying they were having a visit from an AFL or NRL player, my kids would be staying home that day.
    I hope that all school visits by football players are stopped right now.

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    • whitewineplease

      You don’t think it’s a little harsh to tar an entire league of football players with the same brush? I do.

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    • Jules

      Sport is a GREAT motivator for kids, especially boys. It encourages kids to be active, learn rules and develop discipline. When things like this happen, it is then up to parents to step in and explain why it goes wrong and how to avoid the making these kinds of mistakes. It can be a great conversation starter with kids about developing a moral code as well as pointing out the vast majority of players who handle fame and money very well (and discreetly!).
      My son adores AFL, exercises and eats well because of his training and with some steering from us, chose a great role model from the game in Chris Judd.
      There’s idiots in every field and it’s up to parents to help kids manage and navigate the negative parts of any chosen discipline or interest.

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      • tastebud

        I agree.

        Better that kids accept there will be knobs in all walks of life. And better they learn to discriminate the wheat from the chaff as soon as they can.

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    • Ash

      I am a high school teacher and have had a life-long involvement with the ARL. The NRL run amazing programs within schools and communities to inspire and motivate our students and in every experience of mine, have acted with compassion, honour and sensitivity.
      With regards to keeping your children home that is more than fair enough, but there are much broader issues at play within the wider community.

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  45. Because I'm The Mum

    I wonder where her parents are – not now, but over the years when she was a child. What happened to her during her childhood that makes her think this sort of behaviour is acceptable? I feel sorry for her, but my empathy is running short. She needs to pull her head in. Accept the help she has been offered. If she continues on this path, I fear she will fall in a screaming heap – whose responsibility will she be then?

    As for HIM. He is old enough to have known better. He should have kept it in his pants – she is 17yo, a child compared to him. He would know that she has been a problem to men at St Kilda for a while now – he should have stayed away. How will he explain this to his children?

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    • Andrea

      I don’t think her parents can be blamed for her behaviour at all. I think it’s unfair to do so.

      I have seen this kind of thing first hand with my younger sister, and the kind of life she is living is by no means the kind of life my parents had in mind for her. In fact, my sister has gone out of her way to defy my parents – who by the way, have done nothing but try to steer her down the right path – and do the complete opposite to what my parents have asked.

      So to blame the girl who’s involved in this scandal parents, or to question their role in her life is grossly unfair.

      Never judge a parent by their child’s behaviour!

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      • CC

        *Never* judge a parent by their child’s behaviour? I certainly understand that a child’s behaviour is not always a parent’s fault but it’s not always the child’s fault either. Sometimes it is indeed the parents’ fault.

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        • tastebud

          Sometimes, not always.

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      • Lyn

        This girl is only 17, she is barely above being a child. She is a product of her upbringing as we all are…so yes her parents do have a responsibility for how their child has turned out.

        I know that it’s common and understandable human behavour to think “it’s not my fault”, but her parents need to take a long hard look at themselves.

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      • protecting my identity

        She is only 17. I was brought up believing that no matter how old you are, you respect your parents. I also believe that parents should never turn their backs on their child no matter how young/old they are.

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  46. JM

    From a psychiatric point of view, I’ve always found this story fascinating. Clearly this young woman has some personality vulnerabilities. However, she seems to have realised what an incredible pulling power her sexuality is as well. Given her age, social media is an obvious mechanism for revenge. Couple this with tittilating sexual exploits and you’re an instant star. However, I’m still not convinced that was her motivation. Perhaps fame is the happy side effect for her?

    Either way, she needs containing – not physically but emotionally and clearly no-one has stepped up to the plate to do that. That is a tragedy.

    I won’t even comment on the foolish men in this situation. Perhaps not intentionally predatory, but certainly they’ve shown their true colours in their behaviour. Chaperones anyone?

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      i couldn’t agree with you anymore.

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  47. Cool calm and back on medication

    I listened to the Fifi and Jules interview on the radio this afternoon.
    And all I wanted to do was ring up and offer her a home to live in and be a mother to her.
    I’m 33. I have made some shocking mistakes and things I wish I could erase from my past. But no matter what she has done I feel her parents should be making more of an effort to be there for her and support her.
    The comments below about her age being her protection right now is so true.
    She needs a new start. She needs to just get over this feeling of revenge for how she feels she was wronged and scorned and get back into her running or go back to school, anything to take her mind of where she has been and what has happened. Maybe at 18 she can change her name to get this new start, get a haircut and make steps to be that person she was before all this happened. No she can’t erase what has happened, but she can let it all go before it is too late and get on with her life.
    If I had a bigger house to accomodate her I would take her in. yes it would be hard hard work, and maybe I can’t help her or she does not want my help but I would love to give her that chance.
    I have 3 young kids of my own and 4 step children (2 teenagers and 2 in their early 20′s) so right now I need to think of them and how it would affect them before I could just offer up our home.
    But she needs help. She needs her parents and shame on them for not acting like parents and giving her that 2nd (3rd, 4th, whatever) chance that she so desperately needs and parental guidence in this obvious time of need.

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    • Najla

      You are just beautiful :)

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      • salvator sillitoe

        god this website can be so luvvy duvvy

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    • whitewineplease

      That’s a really kind attitude to have, however I think back to when I was 17 and when I wanted to do something, there was no stopping me! Further, how do we know she’s not lying about her parents involvement in her life? It’s just so hard to tell fact from fiction in this story.

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    • rainbow

      brilliant comment and suggestions xx

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  48. AdventureMum

    I think there is far, far more to this story than we could possibly know. From what I understand, the girl first had contact with St Kilda players after they visited her school early last year, she ended up dating one player for a while and subsequently fell pregnant and miscarried the baby. After that she began a retribution campaign against the players and the club (many would say she’s justified) which culminated in the ‘nude photo’ scandal where she published stolen photos of Saints players on the internet.

    What gets less press are the statements by the St Kilda footy club where they claim to have provided the girl with support and counselling services from the time they became aware of the first allegations of impropriety. The club are very restrained on the comments they make about the girls character, her actions and her insatiable appetite for media coverage. My guess is that if the Saints made a bigger show of their assistance they’d be accused of pulling a ‘stunt’ or milking the girl’s situation for money; whereas because they don’t make a fuss about their help they’re instead pilloried for being uncaring and predatory.

    I’m not in any way condoning the actions of the players, but it would seem plausible to me that there is a significant effort behind the scenes of the AFL to actually help this girl – but the girl and the media are hell bent on turning it into a circus at every opportunity.

    As for Ricky Nixon – what an idiot. You simply don’t front up to a girl’s hotel room alone. Ever.

    My husband has a leadership position with youth and there is no way known he’d show up like that. No matter what the sob story is, you maintain checks and balances to ensure that everyone (both child and adult alike) are protected from predatory actions. If indeed she had called Ricky for help, there are many other actions he could have taken. He showed an immense lack of maturity and sense.

    Bottom line: yes this girl has most certainly been treated badly and that is inexcusable, but I have a strong suspicion that she has been deliberately and methodically throwing fuel on the fire, aided and abetted by a pathetically scandal-hungry media.

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  49. Bruce

    Is he claiming she stole photos and video off his phone? And these include photos of him on a bed in his jocks? For a start I don’t leave my phone anywhere, especially with anyone i don’t trust, and the only photos you will find are of my kids and my beautiful wife. Incidentally that’s the same wife I am with at 7am every morning. Regardless of her credibility, this debacle has little to do with her anymore. It’s more about a web of lies spun to protect the afl from a young girl who for all her mistakes won’t go away like all the others!

    Time to take a hard line on the players, fire a few and watch the rest protect their large salaries by behaving. After all, very few players move into high paying futures post the game. If I had $800k on the line I wouldn’t even talk to a 16 yo, sign the autograph, wish her well, and go home!

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    • DenaMar

      so so true, on so many levels.

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