Artyom Saveliev was 7 years old when he was adopted by an American women named Torry Hansen. She picked him up from an orphanage in Russia and took him home to the US to start a new life.
Less than a year later, Hansen decided she didn’t want Artyom anymore. She put him on a plane to Moscow – unaccompanied – with a note, which read said ‘I no longer wish to parent this child’.
She said it was because of Artyom’s behavioral problems that she did not want to be his mother anymore.
“He is violent and has severe psychopathic issues/behaviour. I was lied to and misled by the Russian orphanage workers and director regarding his mental stability,” she wrote.
Last week, Hansen made her first appearance in court. She lost her bid to keep from paying $150,000 in child support and other damages, which are to be held in a trust for Artyom – who now lives in a group home in Moscow.
Criminal charges were never filed, but the Seattle-based adoption agency she used, the World Association for Children and Parents, sued her last year for child support.
Ms Hansen, who now lives in California, went through a string of lawyers as she contested the child support and never responded to summonses to appear in court or at depositions. After Circuit Court judge Lee Russell ordered her in May to pay $US150,000 in child support, she hired a new lawyer, former federal prosecutor Edward Yarbrough of Nashville.
In court on Friday, Ms Hansen told the judge her previous lawyers did not keep her informed about the case and advised her she did not need to come to court. She also said that she gave birth to a daughter last year and could not come to court because of the pregnancy.
Hansen told the court her son was “very violent” and that he said “he wanted to kill me and he tried to kill my sister”. More from News Limited:
She said that the boy threatened to stab her mother to death. She started to tear up when describing how the threats of violence sent her mother to the emergency room in Shelbyville.
“That was when my parents decided to take him, because he was so violent,” she said.
She said it was her parents’ decision to put the boy on a flight to Russia, but she was aware of the decision and acquiesced.
Artyom apparently spent six weeks in a psychiatric hospital after he returned to Russia because of the trauma he experienced. According to the UK press:
Anatoly Vasilyev (The director of the home where Artyom now lives) said Artyom ‘tries to forget about his life in the States’, and that was the reason why the orphanage was not allowing the media to see him.
He added that he gets along well with other children and has almost forgotten English, preferring not to speak it.
Torry Hansen’s mother Nancy recently said she did not believe Artyom was traumatized by being sent home alone on the flight to Russia.
Mrs Hansen said: ‘All I can say he was very happy when he was on the plane.
‘Witnesses have said that he was running all around and he was happy. There were stewardesses watching over him.’








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Adoption is not an easy process and costs a lot of money, so I am sure this woman thought long an hard before deciding to go through with it. It’s just a shame that there is no support system in place for adopted children and their new families that can help them to build strong foundation and a healthy relationship.
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Natalia, I agree with you on the process and the money in takes to adopt. I also think she probably did think long and hard before making that decision. However this woman was in America. As an adoptee I can tell you that they have much greater support services for adoptive families and adoptees than we do here. There is plenty of help she could have received I’m sure and assuming the agency she went through were above board etc. they would’ve been able to provide that help or direct her in the right direction. It doesn’t sound like she sought their help at all.
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What a horrific woman! She is blaming a CHILD for inconveniencing her life with behavioural problems! How was this woman even allowed to adopt. what a piece of work. So yes some people shouldn’t be allowed to have children but some people should also not be allowed to adopt- I can’t imagine a single person going through the adoption process who would send a child back!
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You could certainly see your expertise within the work you write. The world hopes for more passionate writers like you who are not afraid to mention how they believe. At all times follow your heart.
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adoption is just another version of what our country uses when it places children in foster homes … and a great many of those children are returned to the various child protection agencies … children whose early lives are impacted by abandonment, neglect, abuse or instability are traumatised. There are very very very few people who can manage those behaviours … even the mildest behaviours … and children are most definitely returned for much less than a few threats to kill … and kudos for those pointing out that the resources in the US may not be comparable as here … and to add, keep in mind, that the resources available to middle class families, are nowhere near the same as those available to lower class families … and most of our foster children are fostered back into their communities of origin … just a thought …
p.s. totally uncool to send a traumatised child unaccompanied … however, if as the orphanage states, he is getting along with children in his group home, his trauma may actually have been compounded by leaving his only known “home” of the orphanage, and his acting up was a way of not coping with the foreign world of US culture, foreign language and an attachment figure that was brand new to him … he may never have bonded, and was maybe more attached than could have been appreciated at the time, to his orphanage carers, or even just the environment … familiarity is the constant of traumatised children … it’s what they crave … the kid will still have issues … but, p’haps better he didn’t kill anyone … and spend the rest of his childhood in and out of remand institutions …
sigh … outcomes for vulnerable children depend on so many stars aligning … wishing for lots of aligned stars for each and every one of them …
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What an awesome comment (and person) you are.
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A very holistic view of the issue. These kind of things are never black and white.
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Great response. Its not always black and white. I know a foster child and his foster family put up with a lot because of the baggage his earlier childhood has left him with. Its certainly not a walk in the park and so different to bringing your own baby into the world.
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The issue is indeed very complex. These children are very vulnerable and it seems that many suffer behavioural issues, some of them from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. I don’t condone what has happened to Artyom, but I’m not going to condemn his adoptive mother either. The article gives very few details but it certainly highlights a very tragic situation for Artyom and others like him.
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As the adoptive parent of 2 Ethiopian children, I fully concur with this assessment. Beautifully put…
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Well, if he wasn’t psychologically damaged before, he sure is now, you irresponsible waste of human skin.
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I have been doing a preliminary look into adoption for myself and there’s something about this story that interests me. I noticed that for a lot of countries the adoption isn’t even finalised until the ‘sending’ country is satisfied that the match is good (it’s all fuzzy in my mind so no details, sorry). This seems to take between 6 and 12 months. I presume that this is to do with the Hague convention and our rigorously monitored state-only run adoption programs.
Until I read this article I wondered why this would be necessary or desirable. I can only presume and now appreciate that this is why it’s done this way. I can only presume that whatever the truth is in the situation above, this follow up would have perhaps circumvented dramatic end of this particular family relationship.
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This poor little boy needs to be looked after, not abandonned. Again. If she couldnt do it, then she had an obligation to find someone who could. That’s what you take on when you become someone’s mother.
Getting a child at all costs is the problem here. Adopting a child is not like buying shoes. Seems obvious to me that adopting an older child who has been traumatised you are going to also adopt major issues.
I know that there are pushes to relax the intercountry adoption laws in Australia to make it easier to adopt overseas, but this is a reason why screening needs to be very comprehensive. Already traumatised children do not need to be traumatised further by adoption to parents who arent able to care for them properly.
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Have to go now, but to reiterate: Yes, of course we should and do judge such appalling behaviour. It is the correct reaction to be shocked and distressed by such a wicked act. Some behaviour is indefensible, and there are no circumstances extenuatating enough to make what what this woman did acceptable. Even if the woman is telling the truth about his behaviour – and there is no guarantee she is – her response was utterly unacceptable. The fact that she didn’t just decide to murder him does not make her a good person, just a better person than a murderer. I think we should all aim a bit higher than that.
She did have other options, she chose not to pursue them, instead she treated him like an object that she wished to discard. That act negates any sympathy she may have received or deserved. The boy is the victim, in this, regardless of her excuses. Fortunately most of us do get that. I wish this child the very best of luck. I wish for the ex carer exactly what she deserves.
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extenuating. Sigh. Another typo, which is what happens when I am doing 3 things at once.
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Oh, and one last thing: “Under cross examination, Torry Hansen told the court that she never called the police or the state Department of Children’s Services about his behavior. “I called numerous psychologists and was told there would be a 6-week wait to get in,” she said.” Oh well, that’s ok then. http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Family/2012/0716/Adoption-Judge-upholds-child-support-in-Russian-adoption-charges
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That was me, I just forgot to type amd in the name area, apologies. I loathe anonymous posting.
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Whenever there is an article on infertility people always comment and say “just adopt”.
Hats off to the people who do adopt kids like this but this is the reason why I couldn’t or wouldn’t.
And people think that adoption laws in Australia should be loosened? If it stops situations like this happening then I say keep them as they are.
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No one really knows what this child was like and if the things Torry says about him are true. Even if he was as she describes the issue is more to do with making sure the adoptive parents are committed to and able to take care of the child’s needs not restricting adoption. This story is an exception and I do not believe in any way indicates Australia’s adoption laws shouldn’t be loosened.
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I don’t downplay this boy’s behavioral issues. 7 years in an orphanage wouldn’t be great for brain and emotional development. I do wonder if she thought she was just adopting a “bog standard” 7 year old though and whether she did any research of her own. Surely you’d expect some problems??
I didn’t think that just putting him on a plane with a note showed any form at all. Stupid, cruel, rushed decision. I wonder how long it took them to work out what to do with him at the other end of the flight.
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My (biological) children are also imperfect. One has dyslexia and one has a blood disorder. Can you please advise where I can send them to?
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Presuming your kids aren’t threatening to burn your house down or kill your mother, you could probably drop them off with a family day care worker, a grandparent, a neighbour, a friend from school, or call your local Carelink 1800 052 222 etc who might offer you respite, given your child’s blood disorder.
KNowing the US system and the depth of this child’s violent mental illness, I can fairly safely assume this woman had none of those options.
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SHE was the one who said he was violent and a psychopath . She didn’t get him assessed. She didn’t get him any help. All she did was add to the trauma this poor boy has already suffered. Such a cold and callous disregard for an already vulnerable child. Absolutely disgraceful .
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“Since the early 1990s, the murders of 15 Russian children by their adoptive parents have been documented.”
20/20 did a documentary on the hidden casualties of US/Russian adoptions.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6322100#.UAZtPLQe7RQ
So sad.
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And there you have it – better she threw him on a plane than killed him!
I have a dear friend in California who adopted a 4 yo from a Russian Orphanage. It has been a world a pain for her, but luckily she has the emotional and physical strength, a supportive (and strong) husband and financial resources and insurance to cope with him.
Some adoptive parents are not so blessed.
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Dumping him on a plane to go back to the dire place she found him all alone, with a note saying she didn’t want him, or killing him were not the only two options available to her. So now we are grateful to people who only abuse and neglect children for not actually being murderers?
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She didn’t abuse or neglect him. She made a stupid decision to trust her own mother in a time of major crisis. The adopting woman’s mother, seeing her daughter in a mental health crisis, put the kid on a plane, while her daughter was presumably not capable of making a sane decision.
And yes, i am grateful that some women cut back their smoking during pregnancy. I am grateful that families who realise that they are about to “lose it” dump their kids, rather than kill them Aren’t you? Or are you so perfect that you have always made the best decision at all times in everything?
I don’t think you have any clue or understand how deeply a psychopathically violent child can mess up someone’s sanity.
The kid didn’t end up in a psychiatric institution for six weeks because he was dumped on a plane and sent back to Russia. He was hospitalised there because he was seriously, dangerously mentally ill – and that happened before was seated on row 26.
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Instead of making unfounded statements about what I do and don’t have experience with and knowledge of (about which you know precisely nothing) to try to deflect from the main points, you would be better served not trying to defend the indefensible. Yes she did abuse and neglect him. It is abusive and neglectful to take a child from his home for the last year, dump him on a plane alone, sending him back to dire circumstances with a note to say she no longer wanted him. Those actions are both abusive and neglectful. If you do not see that, that does explain why you would consider this behaviour acceptable.
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It’s not acceptable. I never said it was. But it was better than killing him, which appears to happen a fair bit in these situations.
I just said that we shouldn’t judge this woman so harshly. We have not walked in her shoes. Your horse is so freaking high you could touch the sky.
*sigh*
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You’re a poet!
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I can see unfounded personal statements against you???
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Can’t cant
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Like I said, if not throwing away a child like a defective toy means I am on a high horse, will gladly climb on that steed. She did the wrong thing. It was not defensible. Everything else is moot, including personal comments.
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Oh, darn it all. I forgot to type in amd again. Tired, apologies. Also, I see that in a different area I said personal comments. But here, I said unfounded statements. Which, they clearly were. Anyway, to bed.
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And you are such an expert on this child how?? Because you read an article about it on mamamia? Okay well then I’ll just go along with whatever you say..
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S or Sara asked about unfounded statements – I think that question was addressed to me (note, I did not use the word personal, that was added by Sara) I draw your attention to: “Or are you so perfect that you have always made the best decision at all times in everything? I don’t think you have any clue or understand how deeply a psychopathically violent child can mess up someone’s sanity.” This poster also tried this tactic, unsuccessfully, with me in an earlier post. Fortunately, I do not find it difficult to ignore such irrelevancies and remain on point. Anyway, yep, I would say those were unfounded statements. Just popped in to see what was going on before bed.
No need to say any more on this anyway, no idea why anybody would even attempt to defend a woman who could behave so inhumanely. It doesn’t really matter, just grateful the majority do get it, restores one’s faith in the kindness of others.
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Nicely said Sam I think you’re exactly right. So many high horses on this thread.
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Then they shouldn’t adopt. full stop.
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this was in response to Sam’s comment that his friend had emotional and financial support , etc. My response is that if you don’t have the physical , emotional and financial support systems in place , maybe adopting a 7 yr old from Russia isn’t the best idea .
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Google “adoption disruption”, the official term for sending a child back, and there are many, many stories of adopting parents who ultimately cannot cope with the problems.
I have an American friend who adopted 3 children after they were removed from their US biological parents at the ages of 4, 2 and 1 due to abuse and neglect. The 4 year old had to go into mental institution by the time she became a teenager, and the years in between were an absolute nightmare, where my friend often feared for her own life as well as that of the girl’s siblings and adoptive siblings.
The extreme sexual abuse suffered at the hands of her biol parents was so, so shocking, and this paired with neglect resulted in a very very damaged 4 year old girl who quickly shifted her rage towards her adoptive parents.
Her 2 younger brothers had youth on their side and have come out the other end incredibly well adjusted, but not without a lot of intervention hard work by my friend and her husband.
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Sorry for the double post but the edit function seems to have gone awol.
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I don’t think it’s the fact that she couldn’t cope that has people so outraged. I think it’s the fact that she ditched him like a broken toy in a completely heartless fashion.
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Google “adoption disruption”, the official term for sending a child back, and there are many, many stories of adopting parents who ultimately cannot cope with the problems.
I have an American friend who adopted 3 children after they were removed from their US biological parents at the ages of 4, 2 and 1 due to abuse and neglect. The 4 year old had to go into a youth psychiatric institution by the time she became a teenager, and the years in between were an absolute nightmare, where my friend often feared for her own life as well as that of the girl’s siblings and adoptive siblings.
The extreme sexual abuse suffered at the hands of her biol parents was so, so shocking, and this paired with neglect resulted in a very very damaged 4 year old girl who quickly shifted her rage towards her adoptive parents.
Her 2 younger brothers had youth on their side and have come out the other end incredibly well adjusted, but not without a lot of intervention hard work by my friend and her husband.
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I’m not judging her. I don’t think any of us can. Get off your high horses.
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Amen
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I absolutely am judging this vile behaviour. He may or may not have been what this awful woman is saying, she cannot be trusted to tell the truth, but even if he did her actions were indefensible. If believing that a child is not a toy to be chucked out when it suits you means that I am on a high horse, no worries, I will happily ride that steed.
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…even if he did what she claims… typo.
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And yet the orphanage he is in now won’t allow access to him? Think about it………he also spent months in an institution after a flight kids his age take daily on there own
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Are you my twin? Or have we both just worked in disability long enough to know not to judge like some of these folk?
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Also have a dear friend Sam who adopted a 18 month old from china who is serverly autistic and has after four years placed the child in state care, I’m a little over arm chair critics judging her the way they do without knowing what’s its truly like when it all goes to hell!
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And the child wasn’t from their special needs register her disability was hidden and her concern even in china not addressed the attitude was and still is ” you should have elected this, what kind of person are, you should burn in hell” blah blah blah
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So sorry for your friends. It must have been heartbreaking. And I’m sorry for the child too.
I hope she’s got good care now.
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Would they have given away their own biological child if born with severe autism?
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She should be judged. she should be charged with child abandonment , child endangerment , and anything else they can charge her with. Nobody goes into adoption with their eyes closed. She could not be that naive , adopting a 7 year old boy from another country obviously is going to have it’s complications.
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There are no winners here every one has lost. No defense on how she returned the child but I can see and understand why she did what she did. This is the side of adoption that no one wants you to see. It is exceedingly risky to adopt a child from a poor country over the age of two, it would be rare that any child after this age would not have at the very least life long delayed development. Extreme and violent behavior is also common from these children. The best thing to be gained from this is America and there private adoption agencies should be closed down and revert to state run.
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Wow, what a lot of ignorant and judgemental comments I’m reading here.
I have no doubt that the adoption agency lied their arses off.
I have no doubt that this child was a serious threat to his new family.
I have no doubt that as soon as his issues were revealed, their insurance company would have dropped them like hotcakes, leaving them with little to no psychological support, respite or help of any kind.
I have no doubt that the agency involved made a very pretty penny or two out of this adoption, and if they had done their evaluations appropriately, that this child and this mother would have never been placed together.
Until YOU have adopted a seven year institutionalised, violent, dangerous child (who will no doubt grow up to be a violent dangerous adult) contrary to all the information you were given, and you struggled without supports for six months, trying to do the right thing but giving up when it became clear there was no way the placement was going to work for ANYONE, you have no right to judge this woman.
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Of course we have a right, in fact an obligation to judge her. We must use our judgement at all times, every day, to help prevent us from acting in such a wicked, heartless fashion ourselves. And when we use our judgement, as we should every time we are in a new situation, we have a perfect right to find such vile people wanting, and walk away.
We have no idea if the child did any of the things he has been accused of – the person claiming these things is capable of a lot worse than lying, she has proven that by her actions. It is marvellous she has been caught and punished for her indefensible behaviour.
Assuming for one second this dreadful woman is telling the truth, the indefensible part was not, as you are well aware, that she chose not to live with him anymore. It’s that she dumped him like a broken toy, took him from his home for a year and sent him to what was now a foreign country to him on his own with a note saying she didn’t want him. Again, absolutely frightening that anyone would try to defend this sort of action.
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Do you not think it possible that she, too was on the edge of mental illness, having to make a heartbreaking decision to admit failure?
Can you not, for one second, feel her pain?
Families in Australia do this with their disabled children. At least a dozen each year in South Australia alone. They are dropped at respite, and not picked up. There are no resources or supports for these children and their families unless the child becomes a ward of the state.
And those are the lucky kids whose families have at least enough sanity to drop their kids off, unlike the two or three parents each year who actually kill their children. Google Beverley Eitzen or Harry Puhle.
IT HAPPENS HERE
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I could have been entirely sympathetic to her – assuming any of what she has said is true – had she explored other options. I have never stated she should have continued living with him. My possible sympathy ended when she threw the child away like a broken toy. Took him from his home, put him on a plane on his own to a now foreign country, knowing the conditions she had rescued him from and knowing what she was sending him back to, with a note saying she did not want him – I literally would not do this to a dog. He is the victim here, not the woman who ditched him.
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Apart for the occasion weekend at respite your not even a blip on the governments radar until you turn 18 up until that age your solely your parents responsibility and unless you have actually lived or worked in the industry you can’t possibly begin to understand what it s like!
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Once again, unfounded statement. You have no idea about my experience, education, or job. I choose not to brag or make reference to personal knowledge/experience/qualifications because it is simply ludicrous to do so under a pseudonym. I could say I was a rocket scientists from NASA, that would not make it necessarily true. And again, an attempt at deflection. All totally irrelevant. the relevant point is that the woman behaved absolutely inhumanely and is now being punished, to a small extent for that. Which won’t help the child she ditched, but at least shows there is a little compassion and justice in the world.
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I am a foster mum to such children. I can only hope she NEVER has another child or desire to be a mum when its convenient to her and her situation!
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I think that’s really harsh
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I think you’re spot on.
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I never said I was perfect, just know the difference between right and wrong and have a conscience
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Unfortunately, not all parents have the skills and resources that you do. It doesn’t mean that they should never be parents.
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If you don’t have some skills and some resources , you definitely shouldn’t adopt. That’s the point here. Most people go into adoption with their eyes wide open, armed with at least a little bit of knowledge that raising an adopted child might come with complications, especially a 7 year old. You don’t throw away children when it all becomes too hard. Dumping that poor child is absolutely disgraceful .
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Sam, i’m with you a fair bit on this one, except the undoubtably growing up violent part and that parents with limited skills and resources should just as equally be parents as those with extensive skills and resources. 1. I think with some care and support, the boy still stands a chance … of course without those, chances are slim, as you indicate, but for now, he’s just 8, and i’m not a cynical social worker yet. 2. I do think parents should think about their resources and skills before they choose to have children naturally or by adoption. We never never never know what we’re gonna get. Planning for worst case scenario is the best plan … kids are born with disabilities, acquire disabilities, babies die, parents grieve, parents die, children grieve, parents acquire psychological disorders later in life, or at the instance of birth, like post-partum psychosis … yep … i’m not in the camp of advocating for sterilisation of the poor, homeless, disabled or sick … but i think we should think about what we’re bringing to a child, before we bring in the child …
Having said that … that’s ideal … that’s the utopian view where everyone thinks about things before they do them … and let’s face it … vulnerable people are less likely to make informed choices … on account of not having the information … to be informed … We do have a social obligation to protect children from suffering when life goes awry …and this adoptive mother … may well have thought she was better able then she ended up being … it’s a fine line between mental health and illness … a very fine line … bless the boy, and bless all children … and bless the parents who try and bless those who don’t … cos we’re all just an acquired brain injury, or psychotic break away from being an unsafe parent …
p.s. amd … i get the judgement stuff … i do … in the absence of judgement of what is right and what is wrong, there is a void, and if we leave that void … anything could get sucked up and become the dominant nature of things … i get judgement …. i judge all the time … what is right … who is right … but it’s blurry … and it changes … and often i change … and one solution available today isn’t available tomorrow so i have to adjust the measure by which i judge, to suit the conditions … life is kinda messy like that … complex … like humans … especially like vulnerable humans … they are the complexest, the messiest, the humanest …
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I understand what you are saying about judgement. In this case I disagree entirely. There is a reason most of feel a deep, involuntary revulsion for what she has done. Rather than rationalising that, we should accept that what the woman did was inhumane, cruel and unacceptable. That way, we can constantly monitor our own behaviour and ensure we never sink to that depth. That’s what judgement, in my opinion, is for – at least in part.
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i guess i’ve just reached a point this lifetime, where i think meeting everyone with compassion is kinda the way i avoid being revulsed at myself … i’m not being sanctimonious … i just don’t see the point in setting myself up in a camp of for or against, especially in the direst situations … there’s just too much at stake (i will make exceptions for grown ups who sociopathically torture and murder and things, but mostly i’m with the meeting and greeting with kindess if i can) … and i don’t see the point in investing my very precious energy in expressing ideas or values that isolate, ostracise, exclude or condemn … they’re such negative feelings, and it hurts to feel them … i want this boy to be cared for and i want this lady to be cared for … cos i want to be cared for and i want those i love to be cared for … sure this lady has many more resources than this boy, a mother who chose her over her adopted child for one … sheesh … i think russia should come to this responsibility party, actually … if i’m judging … that’s where i’m looking … whole country with resources and conventions and policies and taxes and what not … compared to the one lady with not whole country resources …. ummm … sigh … tricky … complex … humans … sigh … another day another tricky human … good night.
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Actually you have NO idea what exactly went on. You have no idea what the child is really like and how ridiculous to suggest its inevitable for him to grow up into a violent, dangerous adult when you know NOTHING about him. Do you really think the ONLY solution was to put the child on a plane with a sign on him? Why are you defending this woman so much? Did you leave your unwanted kids at a shopping mall or something?
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How dare she! She called herself a mother then decided she didn’t want to do it anymore. These intercountry adopted children have spent their short lives hoping for someone to welcome them into a safe, loving forever family. To say she never knew what issues such a child could come with is ludicrous. She would have been counselled, assessed, tested and questioned regarding this.. How about the child who is coming into a completely foreign country, little understanding of language and rules, thriving for love and affection of a mum only to be treated like an animal being exported… Disgusting.
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Uuummmm not in America here overseas adoption is a very strict and rigorous process, we will also only allow adoption with countries that are signatories to the haige convention. You need to get the wording right, she used an adoption broker because that’s exactly what they are in America not state run agencies like we have here. The brokerage firm are paid a profit for adoptions.
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I don’t need to get my wording right, the issue here IS NOT about the money being exchanged, its the.fact she, for lack of a better word, failed this child.
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And the lack of any real system failed her and the child. I dont agree with they way she went about it but I have absolute empathy for her and other women like her. It’s a systemic issue not an individual issue this happens constantly in the states and even here where children are adopted without any support that will help them cope with issue that come with institionalised children
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Yes I agree, the system did fail her, as in many many situations involving children here and in other countries
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This story absolutely horrified me when I first heard about it. Bloody awful outcome – for everyone.
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I think everyone who is having a go at the mother should think about what it would’ve been like to walk a mile in her shoes. I don’t for one second condone her actions but lots of minors have travelled by themselves on flights before – you simply have to notify the flight attendants to be constantly vigilant over them.
There has to be more to the story – I’m sure she notified the adoption agency and that someone was waiting on the other side for him. I’m sure adoptions fall through all the time – why does everyone think she should’ve been charged?
She didn’t have the resources to cope her emotionally unstable child.
I can’t imagine how sad this would’ve been for everyone involved.
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http://www.travelwithkidz.com.au/is-your-child-safe-to-fly-alone
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I have walked a mile in her shoes. It took more than six months to break them in.
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She didn’t have the resources so she took an 8 year old child from the home he had been living in for the last year, put him on a plane to another country alone and left a note saying she didn’t want him anymore. No, we don’t need to walk even a foot in her shoes. She had options. This was not one of them. There are times when It is perfectly alright to condemn and judge the indefensible. This is one of those times. And, of course, we have no idea if she is even telling the truth – the child she dumped like a faulty toy cannot defend himself and she is capable of much worse than lying, as she has shown.
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What were those options?
You’ve clearly no experience of dealing with an explosively extremely violent institutionalised child.
And there was of course a plan for his reciept at the other end. You can’t buy tickets/get visas for an unaccompanied child without planning and proof….
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Just off the top of my head, walk into a police station with him and say after me “I am afraid this child is going to kill me and I no longer want to look after him”. Absolutely frightening that any adult person would try, for even a second, to defend such a wicked, indefensible act.
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Putting him on a plane was stupid, and wrong. Agreed. But returning him was probably the right thing to do.
And what would have happened if she gave him up to Police? He would have been thrown into an institution in the USA for the rest of his life, without supports, without the culture and language he knew for the vast majority of life. He might have been sent to a foster family who would more than likely have seriously abused him (I am au fait with the fostercare system in the USA, and it ain’t pretty). And, she would have had to stump up the cost of all of his care (which it seems she has to do anyway, given this court’s ridiculous decision).
Someone needs to get the message through to this adoption agency (many of whom are absolute money grabbing mongrels) that children are not chattel to be traded overseas for profit at any (human) price.
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If you agree what she did was wrong, I have no idea what you are defending. There is no defence for throwing him away like this. None. It sickens and distresses me in equal measure. What she did was wrong. Everything else is moot.
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I have worked in the disability and mental health sector in Australia for years and we are advanced in processes and structures here….yet it is common here today in Australia for parents to have a disabled or mentally illl child to hospital then refuse to pick them up EVER just to force the state to provide services. I don’t agree ith how but I can see why.
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Oh Sara – our paths must have crossed – I just wrote the same thing up higher.
Though i must admit, that when kids are left at respite, the centre usually knows at least slightly in advance, even if govt authorities don’t. It’s a kind of unwritten law not to “dob” on these parents who are at the end of their unsupported tethers.
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Yes Sam…we normally have a heads up for those whom trust us…
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Very sad. But hardly on a par with rescuing a little child from dire circumstances, only to send him to what is now a foreign country to them, on a plane, all alone a year later. Back to the dire circumstances you found them in, with a note saying you don’t want them. I can also understand why people do what you have just described, and though I don’t think I ever would, I have some sympathy for them. This is something quite different.
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Perhaps that why I work where I work, it takes longer than six months to walk a mile in another’s shoes as posted earlier, these are life long issues. I think it’s the process that we should be angry at, the lack of education, training and vetting plus on going support in the American adoption system. Adoption should not be money driven it should but policy drive with the child the priority not the money, currently this is not happening and tarring and feathering this mother will only help the process to continue because people are so angry with the individual they don’t examine the system.
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So, without calling anyone or asking for any help, and because their was a 6 week waiting list to see a psychologist (see my top post for the link) they popped the child on a plane back to China, holding a note that said they didn’t want her. No? Not quite the same thing then.
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…there not their.. clearly tired. Been on the computer a lot today, affecting my brain. Far too many typos, starting to annoy myself.
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Absolutely be angry at the process, absolutely try to fix it if possible – and absolutely judge a person who can behave in such an inhumane fashion. She has a personal responsibility to behave like a decent human being. She did not do so. The boy is the victim, not the neglectful carer who abandoned him. And now, to bed.
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I feel so sad after reading this story. Sad for the child who no doubt will have life long emotional problems, but sad for his Mother too who obviously felt so desperate and overwhealmed that she would so such a thing.
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^^^ This ^^^
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This woman is disgusting.
Something like this makes me so upset, the poor boy was in a foreign country having to learn everything from scratch and this happens to him.
Ofcourse a boy like this will have ‘issues’ he’s a 7 year old orphan.
Poor boy
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Man oh man. An adopted child is just as much your legal child as a biological one. And in mind the obligation to them is the same or even stronger. Good on them for pursuing her. Poor little fellow. Problems upon problems piled high on him. Hope he has some hope.
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Fully agree, adopted or biological.. a child for life!
I have a 7 year old and my heart bleeds for this kid.
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I nearly didn’t open this one – but I’m glad I did, as am profoundly happy to hear that at least this woman has been forced to realise some kind of responsibility for the misery and permanent damage she will have caused this child.
Please – don’t kid yourselves or think that it must be so difficult for her – she had a moral obligation to inform herself and be prepared for this child that she wanted, arriving into her care.
I know – I am an intercountry adoptive parent and waited 8 years jumping through hoops to become a mother to my beautiful daughter.
Australians are counselled very well by the authorities and encouraged to read and learn as much as possible about all aspects of adoption and the adopted child – and we certainly have loads of time to do that with the ridiculously long time frames we endure.
The US do not have as stringent rules as we do – BUT – no one in their right mind would imagine adopting a 7 year old boy who had been institutionalised all his life would be an easy task. Definitely such a child would have major behavioural issues and probably a form of attachment disorder.
Even a fraction of common sense, or perhaps 10 minutes spent googling the subject would have given this woman a very clear picture of what she might encounter, regardless of what the ‘authorities’ advised.
And there is no way on earth she was not informed about what his issues might be – no way – but, if she wasn’t, she should have informed herself.
Her behaviour is disgusting – first in being arrogant enough to take on this child when obviously she does not have the skills to look after him and secondly (but most importantly) for sending him back like an unwanted package unaccompanied on a plane.
She didn’t even coordinate a ‘return address’ for him – just shoved him on a plane and that was it – the Russian authorities needed to deal with this child at the other end.
What a monster. I feel physically sick for that poor little boy.
I’m glad if no one can make her pay morally at least someone has made her pay financially.
I could finish this blast by using a serious swear word to describe her… but I won’t – she deserves no more of my time, and my magnificent about-to-be-four-year-old beloved adopted daughter, needs my attention.
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I’m an adoptive parent too (so we probably have a similar story abut assessments and wait times, Ondine’s Mum). And a biological parent too. Fact is, I am a parent no matter what word you put in front of it. There is no distinguishment between my obligations to my kids no matter how they joined our family.
No criminal charges? That’s obscene.
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Hi Sparky
Am sure we would have very similar stories to tell.
I am seriously shocked by some of the comments I have read on this post in defence of this woman.
Plenty of people have troubled 7 year old bio children – would it be acceptable to put a bio child on a plane to nowhere because the parent/s couldn’t cope?
No of course not, and no one would defend her in any way.
This child did not ask to be adopted by this woman and would have been better off had he not been.
As I said – in my view, she’s a monster.
Interesting too that she is now a bio mother – could that have been on the horizon for her as she made this decision.
I think that’s possible. Which makes it all the more sickening.
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the whole situation is just so sad for everyone involved, not least because no doubt this case will lead to a tightening of regulations and will make international adoption even more difficult
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Gawd… how messy.
I want to know is, when he returned to Russia and spent time in the psychiatric hospital, did they evaluate his apparent psychopathic behaviour?
Putting him on a plane alone to return to another country is hideous. If she couldn’t cope, surely there would have been help for her if she seeked it.
My in-laws adopted 3 children over a decade ago. All of the children are siblings and were neglected in their home and foster homes. They all have irreversible damage and behavioural problems. We recently stayed with them and it was nothing short of a nightmare. Sorry, it really was. And while no-one can deny what a selfless thing my in-laws did by adopted them, it is very apparent that the process has torn their life to shreds. They no longer love each other. Their friends don’t want to visit their house. They have had discussions apparently in recent years about ‘giving them back’ (sorry, I am sure there is a correct term for this, but I don’t know what it is). My MIL would never do it, despite her misery but it wouldn’t surprise me if my FIL up and left one day.
It’s all a big sad mess.
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The term is called “disruption”.
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I saw a doco about this and other difficult adoptions of children from Russia and the former USSR. I have no doubt that the child would have had numerous psychological issues (ranging from malnourishment as a baby – so the brain doesnt develop as it should) to lack of one on one attachment and emotional development. But as someone mentioned below, adopting a 7 year old in itself would present soooo many issues, let alone a child from such a foreign place (I doubt this lady spoke russian, so the shock of a new language and whole new world for the child would have been so traumatizing) that I can’t help but feel for this boy that was let down in sooooo many ways… and then to say that he ‘was fine on the plane’ is so insensitive… just another trauma to add to the list. And fair enough she couldn’t deal with his problems, but even helping him by getting him treatment or getting him institutionalised in the states if he really was a danger to himself and others… and now he probably has no expert medical help back in russia, with even more problems, and she didn’t want to help him out financially after adding to these problems… sorry the whole situation from a to z just frightens me and makes me angry.
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May I know the name of that doco? Sounds very interesting and I would like to know more… thanks
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I think it was a Dr Phil episode, but it was done really well! They also showed another mother who adopted a baby girl from I think the Ukraine, who ended up having extreme psychological issues aswell (when she was in the orphange, the baby/toddler wouldn’t make eye contact with her, but the workers there said that she was fine and didn’t have any disabilities) but this mother kept the girl even when she realised something was extremely wrong back in the states. I felt so much for this mother who didn’t have all the help she needed, but it added another great dimension to the story, and they went quite in depth in regards to the problems of adopting both older children and children from such areas. Maybe you could email them and they can tell you which episode it was and how to buy it?
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Thanks for that. Ill google it and try to work out which ep. it was.
I volunteered for an orphanage in HK for a while…the older children were always the hardest to find parents for. Needless to say that the children with disabilities were even harder. Its terribly sad to see all these beautiful kids without a home of their own and parents that love them.
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There’s an ep (could well be one they’ve followed up on in later eps) where a woman adopted a kid from Ukraine or Romania and she was at the end of her tether with his behavioural issues and would make him have cold showers, drink tabasco sauce and just generally screwed him up. It was awful. And she went back and adopted another one!
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where a woman adopted a kid from Ukraine or Romania and she was at the end of her tether with his behavioural issues and would make him have cold showers, drink tabasco sauce and just generally screwed him up. It was awful. And she went back and adopted another one!
I remember that case. When it came to light that child ended up being adopted by another American family. He had a good, loving family with them and ended up graduating from college. There was some sort of documentary on him. I was so happy that he had a happy ending
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Oh really? I wouldn’t have thought they were old enough to have got that far. The kid was only about 7 and I saw this last year? I don’t know when it was made though.
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This is the one I’m talking about:
http://drphil.com/shows/show/1545/
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I don’t know what the situation is in the states but I would think that any adoption should be very carefully managed by the authorities to ensure that both the child and the parents have access to all the support they need. It sounds like she adopted him and took him home and that was that. Naturally there were issues and she should have been given proper psychological screening and support before adopting as well as after the placement.
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In the USA, the screening and support procedures are only as good as the private for-profit agency that brokers the deal.
There are also not-for-profit agencies. Both types can be good or bad, but the state has little to do with it.
It’s appalling that this little boy was ever put in this situation, and appalling that this mother was unable to find the supports and services that they needed to make it work, or to call it off in a civilised (though always painful for everyone) way.
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When you adopt a 7 year old from an orphanage I think it would be reasonable to expect the child has some behavioural problems that possibly could take a long time to help.
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Completely agree… or the problems are possibly there for life by age 7.
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Absolutely there for life. All the love and good intentions in the world will NOT rewire the brain connections of a child with a long standing attachment disorder, any more than you could fix cerebral palsy.
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The long term problems of children institutionalised at a young age are well documented. No prospective adopting parent should ever, ever go into adopting one of these children with the rose coloured idea that love alone will be enough to sort out their problems. Their brains have been irreversibly re-wired from infancy to cope with the lack of one-on-one attachment. Irreversibly.
http://www.olderchildadoption.com/reactive-attachment-disorder-faq
Some of these poor children met a more final fate at the hands of ignorant, resentful adoptive parents:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20111118/168825267.html
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those links are really, really interesting, thank you. My mother was given up for adoption during the second world war and spent the first three years of her life in an orphanage, receiving very little love and affection. She was eventually adopted by a very cold and domineering woman and her husband, who mum says was lovely. Mum now has a lot of trouble accepting any kind of affection, she has taken on a caring role to the extreme (she just dropped me some lunch at work and is going home to make dinner for my brother as a pumpkin loaf and she regularly makes cakes and meals for her neighbours) and she has trouble forming attachments with other people. She herself gave a baby up for adoption when she was around 27 and he recently found her and she was unable to accept his need for affection and a relationship. These links have helped me understand her situation…I wonder if I should mention it to her so she can get help? I kind of think she is beyond help really – she is 72.
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my mamma was made a ward of the state, and put in an orphanage for a few years also, in the years just after WWII. She was born to non-english speaking migrants in Australia. She was fostered to a woman who had adopted two other children, one who still stole food, and the other who had an extreme attachment disorder, and bullied and abused my mum her entire childhood. My mum was so traumatised she didn’t speak until she was 5. My mum, also, is a carer to the extreme, has fostered, cared for disadvantaged children, and has retrained recently and is a carer to severely disabled and terminally ill people. She too, has difficulty accepting comfort, and was emotionally unavailable (she still is, bless her) … but was and is a formidable source of practical support … she was never adopted like her foster siblings were, and was made a fulltime carer of her foster father when he was left paralysed after a stroke, when she was 13. There weren’t protections in place in those days to protect the rights of a child to play, education and optimal life opportunity. Can still not believe my grandmother was collecting the pittance of a welfare check to foster my mum, whilst taking her out of school to be a carer, then at her foster father’s passing, sending her out to work, and charging her board. sheeesh … sigh … I still marvel that she turned out so caring … and has never killed anyone … and never threatened to either I don’t think … what a freaking miracle some people are …
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I don’t know… I am not very outraged. For some reason I think of “we need to talk about Kevin” – all through that film I was wishing the mum would somehow get shot of the child.
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Sorry Anna – in my view, that’s just wrong.
Regardless of the issues the child presented – this is the fault of an ill-informed adoptive parent – full stop.
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The adoptive parent is at fault here. This is a child not a puppy.
Deal with it! you take on a child you take it on for life.. good and bad.
So sad for all concerned.
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Or the fault of a money grabbing adoption agency keen to file kids through customs.
Not everyone has access to the internet and research resources. And I don’t think that makes them unfit parents.
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If you can afford to adopt a child from overseas you can afford an internet connection, and if you are literate enough to fill out the adoption paperwork you are capable of doing basic research before making the choice to become a parent.
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Sorry Sam I just might know a smidge more about this than you having spent 8 years in the process to internationally adopt my daughter.
Of course she had access to the internet (if not at home, there’s a cafe on every corner) – of course she had resources at her disposal (she could afford US adoption fees) And even though the US is far less stringent than Australia in processing potential parents, they’re not completely ill informed.
For goodness sake – would you defend this woman if she put her 7 year old difficult (even homicidal) biological child on a plane to nowhere? Of course not.
You’d expect her to reach out and FIND help – or try.
She was this child’s mother – and she asked to be this child’s mother – and she received his file, and she went to Russia and she met him, and she stayed there for a few weeks to finalise the process.
And then she didn’t want the challenge – just didn’t want him at all anymore – and she behaved like a monster.
Interesting too that she is now a bio mother – the timing of her pregnancy and/or the potential for her to be a bio mother appears to be significant.
She should be in jail.
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She had options. Nobody is saying if she could not cope she would have been forced to live with him forever. Throwing him away like garbage was not one of those options. This was a wicked thing to do, genuinely evil. We cannot believe anything she has said, he may or may not have done any of the things she stated – a woman capable of such an act is certainly also capable of lying through her teeth. And even if he did them all, this was still not an option, either legally or morally. At least she will be paying through the hip pocket, to someone with no moral compass that will probably be the only thing which will affect her, I rather doubt the judgement of society will worry her for too long.
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Omg! Shelbyville is in Illinois. So is Springfield! Thanks to this article I now know where the Simpsons live!
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Haha! That made my day, 1984! Apparently there’s a few states in the US that have Springfields and Shelbyvilles. Matt Groening finally came out last year and said which one the Simpsons were based in, I can’t remember but google might be able to confirm if it’s Illinois?
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Hahah Jess88! I did google but came up with nothing
But apparently Moe moved to Springfield because the zip code spelt “boobs”.
Boobs = 80085 = Illinois zip code!!!
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It’s in Oregon, about 100 miles south of Portland, which is Matt Groening’s hometown.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/simpsons-link-may-help-springfield/story-e6frfmyi-1226428669953
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Thanks Adrienne!
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No problemo!
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Damn my theory! Haha thank you
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There is actually a Springfield in every state in the US. The creators of the Simpsons set the show in Springfield on purpose so that the family really could be living anywhere.
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Sheesh.
A child is not just for Christmas!
I can’t stand it when people abandon pets because they become inconvenient. This is ridiculous
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Inconvenient? Threatening to burn the house down and kill grandma?
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I believe I used the word inconvenient with regards to pets. But the same principle applies. If she had adopted the child to later find he had cancer, or another illness, would she have been justified sending him back? Mental illness is just the same. Once he was adopted, he became her responsibility. A parent’s responsibility in this situation is to find a treatment for him, or seek solutions to deal with his issues, rather than just abdicating responsibility and chucking on the plane so someone else could deal with it!
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Argh! Did not mean to upload a huge photo of my ugly mug! Sorry for that everyone – still learning the ropes!
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Regardless of the child’s mental stability, she adopted him & took him into her home in a foreign country. It sounds to me like parenting him was harder then she thought. I understand that children aren’t all sunshine & roses but the gall of this woman! Seriously who gives up on a child they have gone to all that trouble to adopt?!!
Oh, I get it now, pregnant – I’ve got my own child now, so I’ll palm off the difficult one & just claim ignorance about all legal processes & the responsibilities I undertook when I adopted him. I’ll even blame my parents!
Wouldn’t it be ironic if her own child grew to have behavioural problems? Wonder what her response to that situation would be? (Not that I truly wish her ill.)
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I don’t think she was pregnant when she sent him back (I could be wrong – this is based on a very hazy memory of a Dr Phil show or some such tripe!). Not that it changes anything, but still.
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What she did was awful. But I had to teach a young boy with similar issues and violent outbursts, and a couple of times I honestly did fear for my life. His parents were under incredible stress, so I can imagine the fear, anxiety, and hopelessness this woman might have been feeling.
Obviously it doesn’t excuse what she has done. As a mother, it is inexcusable to abandon your child.
What a tragic story.
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today, i am going to rescue a puppy from a shelter. if i am bored with this new toy, i can always drop him back to the shelter, and drive off. he can figure it out. right? ps: i am evil incarnate.
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And if that puppy tried to kill your mother?
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Well that’s a ridiculous comparison because you wouldn’t PUT DOWN a person which is what you’d do to a brutally vicious dog who attacked someone until near death. Yeah?
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You said it.
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you sound ridiculous , Sam . YOU don’t know this little boy, so stop saying he’s a violent physcopath who has tried to kill people.
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Yes, we’ll assume after 7 years of institutionalised rearing that he was ok – considering that research on children in Romanian orphanages found that kids with ANY institutional rearing – ANY – had a 53 percent chance of psychiatric disorders compared with 22 percent for kids raised in a home.
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no-one is saying this little boy doesn’t have problems, , I’m saying labeling this little boy a physcopath and a would be murderer, without knowing all the facts is just wrong.
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personally, i don’t believe this woman. assuming it is true, or even an exaggerated version of the truth, i would think that a ‘mother’ would get her ‘son’ some help. not discard him.
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I feel for her in regards to having a disturbed and dangerous child (if it’s true) – but adoption – parenting is for life. You seek help and you go from there fulfilling your parental role as best and safely as possible.
I would also like to add that for those who don’t believe it – I work in the foster area. It is perfectly possible that this little boy could have exhibited such psychopathic tendencies. I’ve seen case reports of severely traumatised children who have inflicted the most vicious kind of physical and emotional harm on their carers/siblings/pets.
I understand she felt at the end of her tether, but there is no excuse for putting him on a plane with a note and abandoning him in that manner. Surely there were many other avenues to exhaust before that was even contemplated as an option.
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Absolutely agree. There is a fabulous book called Without Conscience, Psychopaths Among Us by Robert hare, which I would recommend to every one and in particular anyone who believes there is no such thing as a psychopath or a psychopathic child, or does not understand how prevalent and dangerous they are throughout the world.
But, as you say, what she did was still inexcusable. She had options. Simply turning up at a police station with him and stating that she was afraid for her life and could no longer cope with him would have set all sorts of wheels in motion. And really, how can we believe anything she says now? He may or may not have mental problems, or even be psychopathic, but at the end of the day one thing we do know for sure is that she is a thoroughly wicked, selfish person.
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I’m usually a pretty reasonable person that doesn’t get worked up easily, but this is bloody outrageous! What the hell is wrong with people? You adopt a child, it becomes YOUR CHILD. His issues become YOUR ISSUES. You don’t geto send him back with a note like a dog to the pound when parenting gets hard. Because it is hard, every day, but your kids have to trust that you love them enough to work through the bad times and be there when they reach the other side. This woman is a failure as a human being to treat the trust of a child with such contempt.
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I am pleased that she has been ordered to pay compensation for the upkeep of this child.
You can’t just go and adopt a child from another country and send him back because he has “issues”. The child is not an animal you can stick back in the pound because you can’t deal with it. Big mistake!
She should of gone and alerted the authorities so he could get some psych help.
Imagine a poor orphan institutionalised for his whole life! Of course he is going to have problems when he has a massive change in his life! Moving from his homeland would of been a huge thing for him to do.
Stupid, stupid lady.
You don’t go into adoption with your eyes shut. She just made it harder for other prospective adoptive parents to adopt now.
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Indeed, she should have gone in much better prepared – seven is very old for an international adoption really. The child has already become accultured to the culture, language, way of life, etc, around them, and the shift to the United States would have come as a massive shock, even if he had had people he knew around him (which he would not have had). You cannot honestly expect it to be like bringing home a puppy. Of course he would have had major issues. Abandoning the child does not help these. International adoptees are not performing pets to please the new parents, any more than any other child is. It’s a disgusting attitude.
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this woman should be charged with child endangerment and child abandonment . All I can think of is this poor boy has been treated like garbage, thrown away. I feel so bad for him. Some childrens’ lives are just one long, endless , living hell. I hope a loving and understanding family adopts him soon.
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This is vile. Even if what she is saying is true – and really, how can we possibly trust the word of a woman who would ship a child off abroad with a note saying she doesn’t want him – she could have gone to the authorities for help. This was not her only option. This was not any sort of acceptable option. What a dreadful thing to do. I just hope she is capable of parenting her own child, and hope she is watched, carefully, until that child grows up. Very glad she is being forced to at least help this boy financially – something else she could have avoided by going to the authorities for help instead of throwing him away like a broken toy. Appalling, heartbreaking stuff.
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