UPDATED:If you have been following the Chris Brown story (which you can read below) you may be interested in his response. This was his tweet (which has now been removed)

Chris Brown tweeted this after arguments were raised about his suitability to perform. He deleted it shortly after, but not before a screenshot was taken.
I’m sick and tired of people acting like it’s no big deal that Chris Brown performed at the Grammys.
I’m frustrated that the mainstream media is covering this story like it’s any comeback story, like an exiled prince’s return to a former glory, like this is another political timeline — as though some rich and powerful old white men in the music business have not just issued an enormous ‘f**k you’ to every woman who has been, is or will be on the receiving end of domestic violence.
We should be furious. (Apparently we’re not – this from Buzzfeed – 25 extremely upsetting reactions to Chris Brown at the Grammys)

Why aren’t we?
A Long, Long Time Ago, or Three Years Ago, But Who’s Counting?
For those of you who are currently listening to ‘Look at Me Now’ and wondering what the big deal is, a quick recap: The night before the Grammys in 2009, Chris Brown got angry at his girlfriend, Rihanna, and he took it out on her face. She went to the hospital and then to the LAPD, where this photo was taken and promptly leaked to TMZ. (The LAPD issued a stern statement on the leak, threatening penalties “up to and including termination”. TMZ reportedly paid $62,500 for the photo.)
Both Rihanna and Brown had been scheduled to perform at the Grammys the following evening. Neither did.
Instead, Chris Brown turned himself into the LAPD at 7 pm, was booked on suspicion of criminal threats and was released on $50,000 bail.
Then the Internet exploded.
I was a full-time entertainment writer at the time, so I had a front-row seat to the action. This is what I expected: I expected a string of celebrities to comment on how horrific this situation was, how sad and angry they were for Rihanna, how domestic violence is unacceptable in any context, how as a nation we need to condemn this and condemn it loudly.
Instead, Hollywood went silent and, when they did speak, they teetered on the brink of defending Chris Brown.
Carrie Underwood: “I don’t think anybody actually knows what happened. I have no advice.”
Lindsay Lohan: “I have no comment on that. That’s not my relationship. I think they’re both great people.”
Nia Long: “I know both of them well. They’re young, and all we can do is pray for them at this point.”
Mary J. Blige: “They’re both young and beautiful people, and that’s it.”
Jay-Z, one of Rihanna’s mentors, spoke up: “You have to have compassion for others. Just imagine it being your sister or mom and then think about how we should talk about that. I just think we should all support her.”
In a sane world, Jay-Z’s statement would sound insane. Why would he have to remind his fans to support Rihanna after what happened is that she got hit in the face?
Jay-Z issued that statement because the Internet was, in early February 2009, engaged in a very serious conversation about whether or not all of this was Rihanna’s fault. In fact, large segments of the Internet had devoted themselves to making Rihanna the scapegoat for any woman who ever had the gall to do something worth getting hit, and then the cloying self-esteem to go to the cops about it. Bloggers and their commentators flocked to Chris Brown’s defense in droves. It was a full-blown tearing-down of female self-worth, an assault on any progress women have made in this country in the past 200 years, and the mainstream media ignored it.
It horrified me. It still does.
Later in February, a photo of Brown riding a jet ski in Miami hit the Internet, and singer Usher was caught on video commenting on it: “I’m a little disappointed in this photo,” Usher says in the video. “After the other photo [of Rihanna's bruised face]? C’mon, Chris. Have a little bit of remorse, man. The man’s on jet skis? Like, just relaxing in Miami?”
The backlash was so severe that Usher was later forced to publicly apologize.
“I apologize on behalf of myself and my friends if anyone was offended,” he said. “The intentions were not to pass judgment and we meant no harm. I respect and wish the best for all parties involved.”
The message we sent to young women was unmistakable: You are powerless. You are worthless. You will be a victim, and that will be okay with us.
In August 2009, Brown was sentenced to five years probation and 180 hours of community service after pleading guilty to felony assault.
In December 2009, he released his third studio album. It sold over 100,000 copies in its first week and debuted at #7 on the Billboard charts.
On June 8, 2010, Brown was forced to cancel his tour dates in the UK when the British Home Office refused to grant him a work visa on the grounds of “being guilty of a serious criminal offence”. Less than three weeks later, he performed ‘Man in the Mirror’ at the BET Awards’ tribute to Michael Jackson.
His fourth studio album, released in March of last year, debuted at #1.
In December 2011, Billboard crowned him their artist of the year.
And then, earlier this week, Grammy producers confirmed that Chris Brown would perform on Sunday’s show.
“We’re glad to have him back,” said executive producer Ken Ehrlich. “I think people deserve a second chance, you know. If you’ll note, he has not been on the Grammys for the past few years and it may have taken us a while to kind of get over the fact that we were the victim of what happened.”
Read that quote again. Think hard about what is being said. Here is what this quote says to any woman who’s ever been abused:
- By blacklisting Chris Brown from the Grammys for a “few” years (actually, a grand total of TWO Grammy Awards), the Grammys have gone above and beyond expectations for the social exile of an adult man who hit his girlfriend so hard she went to the hospital, and honestly it was really, really hard for them to show even that much support for victims of domestic violence worldwide.
- It was rather thoughtless of Rihanna to go and get herself hit in the face by her boyfriend, because it’s put such a burden on the Grammys. Maybe if she hadn’t made such a big fuss out of it, things could have been easier for everyone.
- The Grammys think that they were the victim of Chris Brown hitting Rihanna in the face.
- The Grammys. Think. That they. Were the victim. Of Chris Brown. Hitting. Rihanna. In the face.
Hitting People Is Wrong, Y’All
I agree that people deserve a second chance. It’s great that we live in a country with a justice system that allows offenders to reclaim themselves and their lives after their sentence. I’m happy about that, and I hope Brown is a changed man at the end of his sentence. (The US justice system has Chris Brown on probation through 2014. It was nice of the Grammys to let him off a couple years early for high record sales good behavior.)
And my suspicion is that Rihanna has no interest in being a poster child for victims of domestic violence. She probably wishes this would all disappear, and I don’t blame her for a minute. She didn’t ask for this – for any of it – and she’s under no obligation to speak out about it.
But someone has to. Because what is happening here is unmistakable. It is, in my eyes, so unmistakable that I wonder if I’m wrong, if I’m missing something huge, because I cannot believe more voices aren’t railing against this.
We – the grown-up influencers in this country, the people with platforms and with educations and with power — are allowing a clear message to be sent to women: We will easily forgive a person who victimizes you. We are able to look beyond the fact that you were treated as less than human, that a bigger, stronger person decided to resolve a conflict with you through violence. We know it happened, but it’s just not that big of a deal to us.
We were so mad when the Komen Foundation pulled its funding for breast cancer screenings at Planned Parenthood. “This is not fair,” we shouted. “This is not fair to women, and this is not fair to the women who don’t have a voice, and we will not allow it.” We shouted it so loudly that Komen reversed its decision in three days. We forced the resignation of one of their top executives.
Planned Parenthood, no doubt, has a well-funded and fine-tuned PR machine, adept at galvanizing a population against a perceived injustice. They outmaneuvered Komen easily.
Does domestic violence have a less sophisticated PR machine than Chris Brown does?
Because to me, this situation isn’t all that different. Accepting that Chris Brown gets to perform at the Grammys because some people bought his album is no different from accepting that women without health insurance don’t get to be screened for breast cancer because some VP at Komen is anti-abortion. It may happen, but that doesn’t mean we should tacitly accept it. What if Chris Brown had hit your sister that night? Or your daughter? (What if Chris Brown had hit Taylor Swift that night?)
We’re accepting the message that women just aren’t that important, that their health and their safety and their self-respect is only important until it stops being convenient for everyone. We should be angry about this, and we should be angry publicly about this.
So I want to say this to anyone who is listening: This is not okay with me. A man hitting a woman in anger is unacceptable and is not easily forgotten or forgiven. A man who hits a woman in anger deserves to be reported to the authorities and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of who might be inconvenienced in the process. A man who hits a woman in anger may eventually be permitted to go on with his own life, but he is not permitted back in my life, even if it’s been three whole years.
This post originally appeared on HelloGiggles and has been reproduced with full permission
Sasha is the VP of Marketing for Pop Salad and a freelance writer. You can follow her on Twitter @sashrocks.
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Oh finally, this is the first article that I have come across about the Rhiana/Chris Brown domestic violence situation. I can not believe that Americans aren’t up in arms and throwing hissy fits about this! What Chris did to Rhiana, in public or private, was wrong on so many levels yet it seems to have been pushed aside for more pressing matters, like grammy’s or, I don’t know, hair styles! America needs to take a stand and make an example out of him! Before all young people think that this behaviour is normal and acceptable (if they don’t already)
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I love this and said by a man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjUKwoHUyw
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I mean’t to write this is an “apology” to Chris Brown from a man on tv after he replied to a tweet of Chris Brown and had Chris Brown and his supporters go mental at him.
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My thoughts on this are broken into a few levels.
Firstly, his grammy award. If grammys are awared purely on musical “talent”, then it is ok that he was awarded one. God knows plenty of other people of questionable moral fortitude have one those.
But having him perform at the event is a different matter. It is too soon and he is yet to show any real remorse/rehabilitation. If he had made massive in roads since the event then maybe, just maybe. But I see no evidence of that from his tweets.
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I am a women and I believe in second chancesfor everyone and I believe he deserves a second chance.
If someone had hit my mum or sister I wouldn’t want them anywhere near me or in my life but it doesn’t mean I will try chase them out of town, spit vitriol at them every time I see them or have them sacked.
Rhianna has moved on with her life, she reported it she did the right thing and since then she has forgiven and tried to get on with her life. It is not our place to take up a battle she does not want. People have been commenting that she can sing about whatever she wants because what happened should not define her, every time we react like this every time he appears somewhere we are making it define her. She is a great role model in taking action, forgiveness, moving on and learning not to let events in our life define who we are. She does not want to be a victim or her life although everybody else is hell bent on ensuring she is.
Many of you are saying that he has been given a lighter punishment because he is a celebrity. This is false, many domestic assaults do not lead to jail time even if there have been repeated assaults, they tend to get a slap on the wrist and community service which is disgusting. However this is also the same for assaults in general. I have read reports of people being glassed and the offender getting community service. So no he hasn’t really been treated differently.
Many of you are also saying that because he trashed a room at a studio and has had a few angry outburst it means he is not reformed. It has not been reported or hinted at that he has hit another women or hit another person. He has been in a long term relationship since Rhianna and rumours and gossip have yet to surface about his treatment of her. It seems to me that he has learnt to take his anger out on inanimate objects. While this isn’t the perfect solution its better than taking his anger out on another person. It is progress.
I have previously spoken about the issue of domestic violence with a psychologist and she made some really interesting comments which I think people need to bear in mind. A lot of people say if a man hits a women once he will always do it again and that the women is never culpable. This is not the case. There are many relationships which are toxic – they thrive on the drama, the intense feelings and pushing each other’s buttons to the point where the other person snaps. This defines their relationship. They are bad for each other and they shouldn’t be together because they bring out the worst in each other. However when they move on to other partners they are fine. I can only speculate but this is the kind of relationship Rhianna seemed to be showing in her ‘love the way you lie’ clip with Eminem and could possibly be the time of relationship her and chris brown were in. Again I am only speculating based on information reported in gossip mags which you always have to take with a grain of salt.
On an unrelated note or maybe it is related because apparently Rhianna hit Chris brown first in the incident but whatever she did not deserve the physical attack she got back (was not proportionate) – I am a firm believer that if a women hits a man or if anyone hits anyone the other person has every right to be hit back. It is a double standard to say that a man should never ever hit a women because he stronger. No one should EVER lay a finger on anybody and if you do – you deserve everything you get back.
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This worries me so much. I find it worrying that women will joke about domestic violence. I’ve written about it in more detail here http://www.angelofharlow.blogspot.com but it shocks me that the rights we’ve fought so hard for are being cast aside by women.
It’s also astonishing that Chris Brown percieves himself as a victim in this and wants it all to be forgotten. He is utterly unaware
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The comments here and on Twitter supporting Chris Brown break my heart.
I am a victim of domestic abuse, my counsellor tells me I’m a “survivor” but reading what some people have said on here… I’m just a nuisance to society and should move on and get over it.
We have become so naive…..
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Here is a copy of he police report in 09
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1606481/chris-brown-police-report-provides-details-altercation.jhtml
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Ahh.. another story from a radical woman with half the facts. Indeed you are entitled to an opinion and I do believe that violence against women is wrong and should be condemned, but this article is no better than ‘mainstream media’. I am not going to judge any characters in this development until I have all the facts with which to analyse the situation in an objective and completely unbiased light.
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Well that made no sense.
Half the facts? She was in a good position to get her information on the subject. What facts would you like? Details on WHY he did it, with some reasons maybe being classified as ‘okay’?
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Those tweets by those girls are so so sad. I just want to get them all in a room and fill it with empowering love and kindness. Even if they are said in jest and light-heartedly it speaks volumes about where our society is at.
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You can learn a lot from people by observing what they find amusing.
It’s why I despise those “why isn’t she in the kitchen making me a sandwich ahahahaha” jokes so fucking much.
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yes chris brown is an arsehole for the horrific treatment of rhianna. no excuse for this BUT how long do we punish him for it.Hopefully he has grown the fuck up and learnt some lessons from it . I certainly wouldnt be cheering for him fromm the sidelines at the grammys , but it is america people and we all know that crazier shit has happened. oj simpson writing a book about murder after getting off for his own wifes murder would only happen in the states.
I think chris brown was dumb, stupid and immature and made a bad mistake at the time.
he is still an artist ( and i use this term loosely) and the grammys is his playground so to speak. surely he has grown from what has happened.hope so.
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If you take his tweet as evidence, then he hasn’t grown up or learned from this at all. Not an ounce.
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did fat lip jay-z think of the lady whos face he smacked during one of his concerts? did he think of all those people whom he sold drugs to and as a result are either dead or hooked onto drugs? miss article writer if u r going to write on abuse do it but please dont be a hypocrite and condemn one person whilst praising another when jay-z himself is no saint. i havent heard anybody criticizing him but ur quick to condemn someone who made a horrible mistake when he was 17 years old. pls target the repeat offenders like charlie sheen, mel gibson, robert downey jnr, sean penn and yes jay-z who continue to abuse women and have not been punished in any significant way. and leave this young man who realises that he has made a mistake and is trying to get on with his life. but i guess any chris brown topic directs traffic to ur site. more hits for u.
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Er, what? Your ‘young man’ is still a lady-bashing thug. He’s just one in a crowd of lady-bashers who got off lightly. As for you: pot, kettle, black.
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In case not prevously posted…here are the details of the police report, horrifying: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1606481/chris-brown-police-report-provides-details-altercation.jhtml
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Yeah, that was pretty disturbing to read. And the d*ckhead flew into a rage after probably being caught cheating.
He should have got jail.
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I find this very sad….the acceptance and glorification by young women and the music industry. I used to love James Browns music until I found out he was a serial wife beater.
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Rihanna herself isn’t exactly a saint. She is one of the worst female role models in recent history. I’m just saying, it’s easy to crucify someone in hindsight and in no way am i saying what Chris Brown has done is justifiable, but considering the majority of her fanbase are underage girls, the image that she is presenting herself in most recently (S&M, We Found Love video clips in particular) is absolutely abhorrent and disgusting! If i had a child I’d be much happier to buy a Chris Brown CD for them than a Rihanna CD, because Chris Brown has accepted his punishment and is getting on with his life, and so he should, and so WE SHOULD ALLOW HIM too, instead of bringing up past charges that WE CAN NOT 100% DECLARE TO STILL BE CURRENT AND ACCURATE reflections of his character. Whereas with Rihanna it is plain to see that the current image she is portraying as a role model for young girls in particular is INEXCUSABLE!
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I’m so glad you don’t have children.
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What????? Wow, let’s hope you never raise a child!
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Chris Brown is a thug. Nothing more nothing less.
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He hit her, she reported, DID something about and moved on with her life! I say well done Rihanna. Perhaps back Rihanna for doing the right thing. Not all women in this situation can do what she did.
As for the silents they keep about him “I’m appalled”
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So Chris Browns tweet was obviously written in a fit of anger and then later deleted when he had calmed down and thought his actions and the possible reacts through. Makes me think that he still hasn’t gotten control of the explosive anger issues that caused him to hit Rihanna in the first place. Not to mention that he destroyed a green room in a rage after he was questioned about the ‘Rihanna incident’ in a television interview. If he’s undergone any treatment for his anger, it hasn’t worked.
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Quite simply, no. The quickly deleted tweets are evidence enough for me regarding his rehabilitation. No, no & no.
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This makes me so angry – it’s not about whether Chris Brown should be given a second chance or not, it’s about how the issue was dealt with in the first place
How the music industry and other responded at the time, and soon after, sent a strong message that – because he’s young, successful and goodlooking – violence is ok.
And – as the author of this post says – this behaviour sends the message that women like Rhianna are in the wrong.
Grrrr. It makes me so ANGRY!!!
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I posted this on my Facebook yesterday and was surprised by the comments of a few.
One 31 year old female friend said that Rihanna shouldn’t have started it (“She hit him first…… If you wanna act like a man expect to be treated like one”), that she had blown her injuries out of proportion (“Oh boo hoo, she had a cut lip and a black eye she was dramatic and went to hospital”). And “I don’t have sympathy for her she almost ruined his career”…
Followed up with “I’ve had a few violent boyfriends and I knew exactly how to send them mental – Unless you’ve lived it you can’t comment, it’s not like he stabbed or shot her – people need to relax and accept shit happens”
So, even after being abused (or because of it?) some women still expect that there are behaviours that warrant a man hitting them???
A 29 year old male friend’s opinion was “I hate the guy’s music and I think he’s a douche, but he’s an ‘artist’ (for what that’s worth) – of course he should be allowed to be at/perform at/be nominated for/win Grammys. Should he be allowed as a guest at a violence against women function? No.”
So we forgive these arseholes (I would put Mathew Newton in the same category – he got even more roles after he assaulted Brooke Satchwell) just because they’re allegedly “talented”???
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These comments just break my heart.
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I honestly didn’t think people thought like that. I’m having trouble getting my head around it.
There always seems to be a set list of things in society that are just automatically, and always “NOT OKAY.”
I thought beating up people would be under that category, but apparently not.
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Just like Mike Tyson. Just like OJ Simpson. We always forgive them.
It’s disgusting. If you read the police report you realise he should have been done for attempted murder. It was horrific. He did it because she read a text message on his phone from his ex girlfriend. HANGABLE OFFENCE! Better punch her in the face and strangle her!
It’s not that people do not get second chances, they do. But he hasn’t (to my knowledge) shown any remorse and in fact revels in his ‘bad boy’ image and has successfully managed to convince a plethora of teenage girls and young women that getting hit in the face is the price you pay for being around him or with him. Plus Rhianna was performing as well so you’d think the organisers would have thought “hmm given SHE got hit in the face she can sing and he can sit quietly in the crowd”
Yes the Grammy’s are about music – but music is (and always has been) about life, love and politics and having a major organisation like the Grammy’s say “no – it’s not okay and we will not promote someone who thinks it is” shouldn’t actually be a big deal -it should simply happen because our society is supposed to be against violence.
It’s appalling.
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Yes he should be given a 2nd chance…
should he perform at the grammy’s ?? Not sure. Maybe if he had shown some real remorse, maybe if the industry had come out and talked about how wrong domestic violence is, maybe if we really had seen some change…
But we haven’t so maybe not yet.
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I think everyone deserves a second chance. I also believe that domestic violence is such a huge snow-balling problem amongst many people who choose to remain silent for many wrong reasons and whos “second chance” mentality keeps sending them back to the hospital over and over as their kids watch and learn. I wish that along with giving Chris Brown a second chance, they would have also stressed a serious message on domestic violence to all the victims out there young and old who are watching. But what can i say…I was once a victim too.
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i wonder if people living in nsw and educating their children in state schools also look to why tanya plibersek’s husband, a convicted drug dealer is able to be head of the education department! yet someone else with that conviction cannot be a teacher. has no one ever written to tanya and debunked her integrity in being with with criminal or the labor cronies that allowed it?
what about pat o’shane and the violence inflicted on her husband?
or is violence against men acceptable or a joke? eg slapping aman’s face if he insults you?
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@David… I agree with you. There are double standards..
Pat O’shane is a disgrace, needs to be removed and physcologically examined.. violence against ANYONE is unacceptable. and although violence against women is far greater, violence against men is real and needs to be dealt with. What we need is people to speak out and then behave accordingly.. not say one thing… do another….
Just because this article is talking about women, does not mean I underestimate the impact of violence against men.
Have a good day
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Get your facts straight – it was NOT Tanya Plibersek’s husband who was arrested for drugs, it was Verity Firth’s (NSW MP), and he was not “head of the education department”, he was chief of staff for the Transport Minister. Tanya Plibersek’s husband WAS Director General of Education for NSW, but after the last election, he no longer holds that position. That is why no one has written to Tanya to debunk her credibility, because hers is intact – and yours is not!
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what bothers me more is that rhianna was allegedly so torn up about being beaten up etc, but suddenly starts releasing songs/videos/images of bondage and sado masochism…you can’t have it both ways!!!!!
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Actually David, you can have it both ways.
Bondage and sado-masochism are consensual. Being beaten up by your partner isn’t, funnily enough.
Your comment is just like saying someone can’t be raped by their partner because at other times, they enjoyed sex.
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Learn the difference between consent and non consentail encounters.
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*consentual
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Ah as much as I hate to feed the trolls David is, once again, wrong.
Rhianna can express herself on stage however she likes (as long as it’s legal). She can cover herself up in oil, nipple rings and half a hanky and gyrate on a stripper pole. All consensual.
Having the snot beaten out of you (by someone who is supposed to care about you) is not something she chose. She was attacked.
It’s a massive failure of logic to try to connect the two.
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Brilliant article Sasha. I agree 100%!! I am too outraged by how forgiving and accepting people seem to be of Chris Brown and similar. It especially disgusts me when women are defensive of these men and blame the victim! Do they not understand it could easily be them? Do they not understand the horror and humiliation of being abused by someone you love? Rihanna is an amazing strong woman but she deserved way more support than she got. I am furious that the Grammys invite Chris Brown to perform, just like I was furious that Matty Johns got his own TV show after the gang rape scandal and that he now has a great radio gig. It just shows how money is more important than ethics and morals. I am angry and feel sick at the people who support men like this and cannot and will not ever understand girls who write tweets like the ones above or people who say ‘she brought it on herself’ and ‘how could she do that to him..ruin his reputation’. It is a massive issue and something that I hope can improve in my lifetime
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elle matty johns never took part in a gang rape…your comments are defamatory and i have emailed him already. if it was rape then where were the charges or official complaints.?..unfortunately it is uptight women with an ax to grind like you that cloud the issue!
this attitude yet no criticism of rhianna and her sado masochism videos…so two faced!
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Umm, maybe I’m missing something, but sex play (with safe words and boundaries) is not the same thing as getting your face beat in. Usually, its about pretend, like dressing up as a nurse, or cowboy, or donning a fancy slick latex suit and then role playing. Generally folks don’t need the hospital afterwards. The difference is consent.
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Actually David – elle didn’t say he took part in a gang rape. She said ‘…. after the gang rape scandal’. To me that does not imply at all that he was a part of it.
Also you e-mailed him? *snort* LMAO that’s hilarious!
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Wow, David. I’ve been ignoring your other comments because you’re obviously ignorant and foolish. Now I realise you can’t even read properly, so it makes sense that you can’t think properly either.
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lol! ‘uptight women with an axe to grind like you’. Your attitude and your support for men who behave this way is a perfect example of why men like this continue to be glorified despite their disgusting behaviour.
Good luck with your groupie love of Matty..hope he emails you back to thank you for your support in protecting him from ‘uptight women with an axe to grind’ like me!
If you know anything about sexual assault and rape you will know that it is incredibly difficult to have enough evidence to lay charges so not being officially charged means nothing in terms of whether it happened or not. No one knows for sure what happened except for the people involved but we do not that Matty Johns cheated on his wife by having sex with a 19 year old girl along with 10 or more other men. We know that the girl involved has been diagnosed with PTSD and attempted suicide a number of times. Does that sound a typical response to happily engaging in and consenting to sexual activity? Does it sound likely that she was really into the idea of more than 10 men coming in and having sex with her? Do you think a young girl in that situation would have any chance or power in resisting with a group of fully grown rugby players surrounding her? Whether Matty Johns is guilty of rape or not, why do we want someone who was even involved in something like this to be on our TV screens? on our radio? Reaching young impressionable people and being seen as a role model and someone to look up to?
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Those fb posts/tweets are juvenile ramblings of stupid teenage girls. I bet if you looked at any other of their posts, they would be just as stupid. Proof yet again that most teenagers haven’t got a fully formed brain.
My God are they going to regret those posts, if not now, then in the very near future.
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As a survivor of DV, I can tell you it’s easy to say “why don’t they leave” or “how can she go back to him” or even (cringe) “she must have done something to deserve it”.
I can tell you that by the time the physical violence starts, there has been months/years of mental, social and often financial abuse so you feel that there is no where to go and no one to turn to.It becomes easier to believe the abuser.
It was only when the physical violence started to escalate, that I found the courage to leave. It takes a long time to realise that there are much worse things than being alone.
As far as “deserving it”- my crime that tipped the scales was I was late home from work by 15 minutes because I had stopped to pick something up for dinner. I hardly think that a punch to the face was warranted, do you?
Other crimes that tipped the scale were having the audacity to have study and exams, provide meals on time that he didn’t turn up for and were then cold (we didn’t have a microwave and he wouldn’t eat reheated food anyway), miss a church service because of shift work (I’m sure God can see the irony in that one!)
He was such a control freak that he even dictated whether or not I could be on the pill.
Looking back, I can’t understand why it took me so long to leave. I know I loved him (or I thought I did) and I thought that it must be me: if I could only be xyz or do abc then it would all be ok.
I don’t think it would have ever been ok and thankfully I haven’t seen him in over 20 years.
I remarried (after not even dating for about 10 years, I was so scared of men) and we have a good life now. He knows about him and everything that happens and is aware sometimes of my responses not being to him, but rather a knee jerk repsonse, especially if there is a lot of yelling about.
I don’t think that the Grammy’s should have allowed Chris Brown back in until at least his probation was finished and he had publicly apologised to Rhianna, showing contrition and remorse. I certainly won’t be buying or listening to any of his albums.
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very well said.
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For me the issue is the Grammys inviting him to perform. It’s Prestigious & public. Sure he shouldn’t forever be punished once he’s been dealt with by the authorities & Rihanna but no, not singing at the Grammys just two years later.
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i agree, em, but they only wanted him there because he has such a huge following, and it’s all about the money. if his “fans” had voted with their money and not bought his music, the Grammys wouldn’t have had any reason to have him perform.
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Completely agree Sasha – well written post.
I haven’t read all the comments (but imagine others have already said) however those online posts captured in the photo gallery above make me feel ill. They trivialize domestic violence and must be so insulting to those who have experienced it.
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You know what, I would LOVE to take the privilege of showing these girls JUST how scary domestic violence is. Just how isolated, afraid, and hopeless you really feel. Just how awful it does feel when someone you love raises a hand to you. What Rihanna experienced was NOT fun, or sexual.
These girls are uneducated and it scares me how they can take to social media and say these ridiculous things without realizing the power of their words. Chris Brown isn’t a hero for what he did, quite the opposite. It only puts women back a few hundred years.
I hate that Twitter and FB can do this, that this kind of foul message can be spread.
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Finally, a voice of reason. Couldn’t agree more.
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Wow!! Read the article first, and my initial reaction was that the incident was kind of old news – not the topic, I might add. BUT then I checked out the gallery and felt like maybe the bigger issue is young women’s self esteem (I’m still on the ok side of 40 for context). Is it the poor self esteem that makes women feel like they can’t get out of a bad relationship? These tweets must be somehow representative? I was absolutely shocked by them. V sad as mother of a daughter, but also v determined to continue to help build her self worth.
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trust me: it’s okay on the other side of 40 too
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Sorry but I don’t believe he deserves a second chance, neither do any other rapists or woman bashers. Their victims have to live with what these cretins do for the rest of their lives, so should they.
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1606481/chris-brown-police-report-provides-details-altercation.jhtml
This link is to an article providing the all the details of the assault.
“Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.’s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle”
“Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear.”
Anyone who thinks this behaviour is excusable needs desperately to locate their moral compass.
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That made me feel sick
Have seen DV first hand, it’s as unsexy as it gets. And not OK, not until steps have been made to express remorse and work on the behaviour behind the violence.
Ugh.
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Great to see Mamamia leading the way with news and comments. Slow off the mark SMH has only just added this story to their site whereas we’ve been talking it about it all day.
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Completely unrelated to anything but have to say I love your profile pic! It makes me smile…
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Thank you! It makes me smile too! (Unlike David of Sydney)
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I think this article is really sensationalizing abuse… I really don’t think Chris Brown should have anything to do with it. If you’re going to write an article about relationship/spousal abuse, how about you go outside of Hollywood and get the real, the unheard stories… not this smut. Your point is moot.
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Hi Olivia, this article is about Chris Brown and the message it sends when an abuser of women is given star billing at the music industry’s most important awards ceremony.
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finally the voice of reason from olivia…then pounced on by the ex cleo…editor…
mia he punched her in the face once! i don’t condone…do something positve for domestic violence awareness by not making it just about woa=en being abused by men but also about men being abuse by women…just as bad every time a man has his face slapped for saying the wrong thing…
i’ve had that…any negative comment by you Mia and I’m going to launch a discrimination lawsuit and lobby all other media to boycott you
support a campaign against fermale abuse of men..it’s only fair
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Actually, David: “Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.’s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle”
“Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear.”
That is what happened. He didn’t just “punch her once.” And replying to your former comment above, making videos about “S & M” and getting beat up is not having it both ways. Are you one of those men who blames womens’ clothes and whereabouts when they get raped by men? You know is who to blame when men rape, beat, and abuse women? THAT MAN. That is who. You know how you stop rape and abuse? Tell men and raise little boys that women are not objects there for their sexual pleasure, nor objects to be beaten into submission. I don’t enjoy it either when women pander to the lowest common denominator and make videos like some of Rhianna’s, but how DARE you blame the victim. And get your facts straight.
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Do this look like the face of someone who was punched once? Even one punch is too many.
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‘any negative comment by you Mia and I’m going to launch a discrimination lawsuit and lobby all other media to boycott you support a campaign against female abuse of men..it’s only fair”
wow. why david do you spend so much time trolling here when it obviously causes you to get your boxers in a knot. This is Mia’s site and no one is making you read it – if it offends you so much try reading something else.
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And David, what exactly are you basing your defamation suit on? Asserting that violence is never acceptable? Saying that society should condemn rather than reward women-beaters?
No one has said that women can beat men and violence is only unacceptable if it’s against a women. What every has been saying is that violence is always unacceptable.
Except you, who said that if you sing about consensual s&m sex play you can get the s*** beaten out of you and shouldn’t complain – because you’re a misogynistic idiot. (Sue me – truth is a defence to defamation)
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WTF I cannot believe these young girls! violence towards women is NEVER ok and people like Chris Brown should not be glorified and worshipped, makes you think what kind of people have brought them up, very disturbing
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I’ve read a lot of the comments below, and I’d just like to add another element to the mix: we hold our politicians and other public figures to very high moral standards. A scandal such as domestic violence would absolutely have resulted in the resignation of such a figure and probably signalled the end of their career.
So why are entertainers treated differently? It seems that movie stars never get sent to jail or receive full punishment for any crimes. Music stars also seem to receive lenient treatment, possibly from the law but certainly from the public.
The Oscars had hosts resign over ‘scandal’-based reasons. Why are the Grammys different?
Thank you for this article. It is so important to stand up and say, “Hey! That’s not ok.” And the situation with Chris Brown is not ok with me.
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Starting to look obsessed on this topic and getting no work done but here goes:
Politicians make law, I don’t want to hand a wife beater the ability to legislate himself out of trouble, nor do I want him in charge of me. Don’t trust his morality or self-control.
I’d give him a chance of reform, but not his old job back.
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Fantastically written post, Sasha…
Thank you for sharing the anger that have and for expressing it beautifully…
And thanks for keeping the homefires burning on the Domestic Violence. Sadly, it’s still a massive issue that NEEEDS out attention.
Not so convinced that some of the chicks above (e.g “I’d let Chris Brown hit me”) aren’t trolls.
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I CONCUR.
Every damn time I see this a**hole on tv or anywhere, I ask whoever is near me to hear it “Why is it ok for him to be there?” “Why is he still allowed to be in our civilized world?” or “Why is he still allowed to be famous and liked?” What the hell is wrong with people??? This is NOT OK!!! (And you’re right, what if it had been Taylor Swift? There’s no way in hell anyone would have forgiven that.)
I’m glad someone else said something. No one listens to me, maybe they’ll listen to you. Now I’m all ragey. ::cleansing breaths::
}:)
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BRAVA! You said it all! It is ridiculous the MULTITUDE of chances that any celebrity gets…the amount of time use every excuse in the book and then all they need is one hit song or one hit movie and all is forgotten! It is absolutely an insult that the Grammys not only seem to have forgiven, they seemed to blame Rhianna for cancelling on them as well as they see themselves as the victim. They should all reevaluate their prioroties! This is why I do not watch these types of shows anymore. People are getting famous for the wrong reasons now adays…no one other then JayZ stood up for her which was ridiculous and when someone like Usher did make a perfectly correct statement he is forced to apologize. What have we come to? No wonder it’s a cycle that doesn’t seem to be getting any better…only worse!
I applaud you for your statments and I am completely in agreement!
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I can’t believe that so many people are pointing the finger the finger at Rihanna about that S&M song.. There is a HUGE difference between S&M (if you into that kind of stuff) and domestic violence. S&M is consensual, DV is not! Saying that kind of stuff is pretty much like saying “She’s not a victim, she wanted to get punched in the face and put in the hospital. She must have liked it”
I agree with MissT – Domestic violence is not just a man hitting a women, it is often a woman hitting a man, but most men don’t want to admit that they have been assaulted by their wife/girlfriend, which is terrible. I don’t care who you are, NOTHING gives you the right to hit another person, be it your girlfriend, wife, boyfriend, mother, father, guy at the bar.. no one!
I also hate the fact that he got a suspended sentence. I am sure that the court system wouldn’t have gone so easy oh him if he was just some middle class office worker that beat up his girlfriend. Someone who didn’t have PR and a fat bank account to make it all go away..
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The thing that I find most disturbing are the recent reports in the media that Rihanna and Chris are back together and trying to keep it quiet. If they are, what kind of message is that sending to her young female fans? That it’s ok to go back? And even if it’s a fabricated story not everyone would know that. She was still seeing him after the incident and it wasn’t until the uproar of the public that she left him. Was it because of realizing how bad the situation was or the fact she didn’t want to lose her fans, and ultimately her career?
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Stop reading gossip magazies/websites.
None of what you have said is backed up by any evidence.
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Because gossip is???
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Good post. Solid points. Nope, not OK. Sad, heartbreaking and leaving me quite sad about the flip comments made by those 25 people.
Just one edit: A person hitting another person in anger is unacceptable and is not easily forgotten or forgiven
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