Well, that was awkward.
When 57-year-old Ellen asked the 65-year-old former athlete about her views on same-sex marriage, Caitlyn tried to talk her way around the issue, which she called an ‘issue’, but Ellen wouldn’t let up.
In a wordy, confusing response filled with awkward pauses and tripping over words, Caitlyn tried to explain her stance.
“I have to admit that I remember 15-20 years ago when this whole gay marriage issue came up – at first, I was not for it. I thought, I’m a traditionalist… and it’s always been a man and a woman. And I’m thinking, ‘I don’t quite get it’. But as time has gone on, I think, like a lot of people on this issue, have really changed their thinking here. I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness. You know? That’s not my job. If that word ‘marriage’ is really that important to you, I can go with it. “
Ellen hit back with: “It’s funny, because you’re still kind of not on board with it.”
Caitlyn attempted to explain again, but failed and began talking about dating instead.