Ashy Bines defends her attack on plus-size model Tess Holliday… on live television.

Bryce is about to start taking steroids. Megan has been bulimic for eight years. Kaitlyn is recovering from anorexia and has banned herself from Instagram. Ashy believes plus size women are bad role models.

These young Australians appeared on a live TV panel last night, Hack Live on Body Obsession.

During the 75-minute ABC special, the panelists thrashed it out over body image issues from surgery to steroids. And  there was one discussion in particular worth watching: the debate over whether fitness guru Ashy Bines’ recent attack on plus size model Tess Holliday was justified.

Watch a segment from the Body Obsession special here. Post continues after video…

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Bines last month attacked Holliday as “not a good role model” in an Instagram post. And on last night’s show, Bines defended that attack on live television — before being forced to listen to a medical expert who said she’s only partially right.

“[I]t’s sad that women who are obviously eating a lot more than what they need and not moving their bodies to be fit, strong and healthy are getting praise,” Bines wrote of 30-year-old Holliday in the original, February 2016 post.

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She reiterated that message last night, telling the program’s host Tom Tilley: “I understand that her message [is] to love yourself no matter what size you are, and I totally agree with that. But Tess isn’t saying, ‘I love myself here and I’m on a journey to be healthier.’ She’s saying ‘I’m a plus size model, I’ve got this many followers, I’m getting paid to be this size, this is okay’.”

Bines said any doctor who looked at Holliday would say she didn’t look healthy.

And while she doesn’t believe young women shoukd look to Holliday as a healthy role model, she thinks she’s a shining example herself.

As she put it on last night’s show: “I think that I’m a really good role model for the younger generation.”

I know this may cause people to get upset. But something id like to speak about and don’t mean to offend anyone at all please know that and anyone who attacks me or calls me horrible names you will be blocked. I might not be perfect at wording the message I’m trying to get across but my intentions are not evil. . The girl on the left is obviously underweight – yes she maybe genetically small but it’s pretty obvious she is not healthy and has not been eating a well balanced diet and would be on 500 or less calories a day to achieve her body – nor is she a good role model for young women. I hope she has some support around her to help her change her lifestyle . . The girl on the right I’ve seen in recent articles and apparently is an ” inspiration” to the younger generation – I also think she is not a good role model for young girls. . Thin girls are slammed ALOT these days but females who are carrying more weight than what they should for there bodies, organs , moods , bones , cells etc to be ” healthy” are now inspirations because they are confident in their swimsuit? . I think it’s FANTASTIC she feels comfortable but at the same time I don’t think it’s a healthy body image that should be applauded. . It’s not about having a 6 pack or no cellulite on your booty but HEALTH is not either of these photos. . Now I’m not saying I’m perfect or anything like that but I just think it’s sad that women who are obviously eating a lot more than what they need and not moving their bodies to be fit , strong and healthy are getting praise. I’m not saying either are ” ugly or ANYTHING like that ” just don’t think either are healthy role models and shouldn’t be given praise. . There is no ” perfect” body and no two bodies are the same BUT it is obvious when someone is living an extreme lifestyle one end or the other and I hope girls find other role models to help them achieve a healthy lifestyle. It’s always my goal for women to FEEL and look their best and teaching them balance and a healthy active happy lifestyle. . Remember ANYONE who is making rude nasty comments think before you type as you will be blocked.

A photo posted by Snapchat : ashybines1 (@ashybines) on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:12pm PST

Dr Ross said size-22 Holliday wasn’t his idea of a role model, but conceded that Holliday could “still be modestly healthy.” He continued: “We know beyond a doubt that people who are carrying extra weight… don’t tend to be as healthy. [But] there are people who are considered obese who are not diabetic. So it’s not as if every obese person will get diabetes, cardiovascular disease, but there is no doubt that you are much more prone to that, the more weight you’re carrying.”

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Dr Ross said size-22 Tess Holliday could be “modestly healthy.”

Dr Ross added that slightly healthy people can have longer lifespans than slim people. “If you’re looking at say a BMI over 40… there is no doubt that’s very unhealthy,” he said. “But, for example, if you’re looking at somebody who’s in the overweight range — BMI 25 to 30 — and if you compare to people who are thin… there’s a six per cent lower death rate in people who are carrying a little bit of weight.” He also added that when assessing people’s health at different sizes, we shouldn’t overlook the importance of mental health. “The most important drug on the planet as far as I’m concerned is a thing called happiness,” he said. “I think we should be trying to strive for happiness every moment of the day.”

Post workout stretches w/ my amazing trainer @mackfit ???????? I stay active for me, & only me. It’s not about proving anything or trying to lose weight, it’s about what makes ME happy! Our society is so engrained to think that all bodies (especially bigger ones) shouldn’t be respected & appreciated, it’s heartbreaking. We ALL deserve to be treated with dignity regardless of our size, gender, race, sexual orientation, abilities, etc., & should demand that of those around us. When people criticize or belittle us it says more about them than us, remember that, Don’t let anyone dull your shine or underestimate what you are capable of ???????? #FUCKyourbeautystandards #mackfit #25weekspregnant #honormycurves #hogwarts A photo posted by Plus Model | Mom | Feminist???? (@tessholliday) on Mar 1, 2016 at 1:42pm PST

Holliday’s response post.

The panel discussion followed Holliday’s 1 March response to Bines’ body-shaming post.

In that response, Holliday shared a photo of herself exercising in the gym and said she does stay active — but it’s for herself, not to conform to anyone else’s idea of what she should look like.

Our society is so engrained [sic] to think that all bodies (especially bigger ones) shouldn’t be respected and appreciated, it’s heartbreaking,” she added.

“We ALL deserve to be treated with dignity regardless of our size, gender, race, sexual orientation, abilities, etc. and should demand that of those around us,” she stated.

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