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nicole kidman Why does Nicole Kidman inspire such vitriol? Seriously, why?

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While some won’t be thrilled that this is another post about Nicole, it’s something we couldn’t ignore. I thought the news about her new baby, via a surrogate, was something people were interested in discussing and indeed it was. The comments on that post are still going strong and have covered everything from the ethics of surrogacy to infertility. But there has been an uncharacteristic amount of vitriol on that post. Uncharacteristic for Mamamia where the quality and tolerance standard of comments are higher than any other website I know but not uncharacteristic for any discussion about Nicole Kidman.

This is interesting to me. Why, more than any other celebrity I can think of, does Nicole Kidman polarise public opinion? There are celebrities you like and those you don’t and many many where your care factor is so low that it falls off the earth and drifts off into space. But very few people are on the fence about Nicole Kidman.

I once wrote a column about this Nicole syndrome myself when it was peaking after the release of Australia. The response on this website and in the community was massive. She is polarising. I have my own theories about why (which I aired in

my column) and I was fascinated to read Bryce Corbett’s thoughtful profile of Nicole in the current Women’s Weekly.

It changed my opinion of her somewhat, I encourage you to read it.

But when Bryce and I were talking yesterday about Nicole and he read the comments on Mamamia, he agreed to write this piece exclusively for us about what it is about Nicole Kidman that makes people go, well, a little bit nuts.

Bryce writes….

I’m sorry, but exactly what crime against humanity has Nicole Kidman committed? Has she been responsible for a genocide that I don’t know about? Does she lead a life that is so reprehensible, so offensive to common decency, so inexcusably bad that she deserves to be burned at the stake? Because that’s the impression created by the online outpouring of bile that has greeted the happy news that Nicole and hubby Keith Urban have welcomed a new baby into their family.

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Going by the comments on this website and others in the hours after the announcement on Tuesday of a new addition to the Kidman-Urban clan, the worst that can apparently be said about Nicole is that she has lied about beauty treatments she may have had (quick! Someone call the International Criminal Court) and that she is “cold” (hardly a hangable offence).

And yet there seems to be something about Nicole Kidman that inspires vitriol in people – especially women. Why has this gangly bloodnut from Sydney’s northern suburbs, an internationally-feted home-grown movie star, become fair game in the new spectator sport of online lynching?

I met Nicole just before Christmas and interviewed her for a profile that is the cover story in this month’s Australian Women’s Weekly.

It was a relatively brief encounter, as audiences with Hollywood royalty tend to be, but it was enough for me to come away liking the woman.

In person, Nicole is warm and engaging. Moreover,

she’s funny. Twenty years in Hollywood, I’m pleased to report, have done nothing to blunt her rapier Aussie wit, her tendency to self-deprecation or her keen sense of the absurd.

The Weekly interview was the only Australian magazine chat that Nicole consented to while she was briefly in Sydney to take part in the great ‘Oprah Does Australia’ spectacular. And while it would be ridiculous to claim some kind of insider knowledge based on a 45-minute encounter, it was nevertheless enough time for a few perceptions about Nicole to be altered, appreciations to be gained and opinions to be formed.

And the thing that struck me as I walked away from the interview was how strange it is that one of our country’s most successful artistic exports inspires such extreme reactions in people.

My question to you, keen readers of Mamamia and enthusiastic members of the online commentariat, is what exactly has Nicole Kidman done to deserve the abuse she so often attracts?

For it seems to me that Nicole Kidman is engaged in what must be a most dissatisfying unrequited love affair with her homeland. She flies to Australia to pimp her country on Oprah. She makes a film with Baz Luhrmann which (whatever you may have thought of the final product) was a massive shot in the arm for the local film industry and a two-hour love-song to her country of birth. She fronts up to G’Day USA every year to flog the myriad wonders of Down Under. And following the Victorian bushfires, she donated half-a-million dollars of her own money to the Red Cross relief fund. What a cow.

She gives and gives to this country and we so often offer up nothing but contempt in return. God knows she could have turned her back on Australia a long time ago. They love her in the US where she commands millions of dollars for every film she appears in. Yet she remains a proud Aussie expat, willingly flying the flag whenever and wherever she can while back here at home half the population is busily white-anting her at every opportunity.

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Please tell me it’s not because she attributes her youthful good looks to diet and exercise when we all know there’s a bit more going on. Maybe it’s because I’m a bloke, but really: who cares? Why does it matter? And why do people take personal offence? So what if she refuses to disclose the intricacies of her beauty regimen. Some people dye their hair, others wear wigs, some women never the leave the house without eyeliner, others still are closet cosmetic surgery addicts. Whatever gets you through the day, I say.

Perhaps some of the disdain has to do with her marriage to Tom Cruise. A man who (how to put this delicately?) appears to have a decidedly casual relationship with that which you and I might call reality.

Living reminders of that ill-fated union are in the shape of the couple’s children, Isabella, now 18 and Connor, 16. They live with their father, are rarely seen in Nicole’s presence and their perceived treatment at the hands of their mother is frequently invoked as the reason people don’t like or warm to Nicole.

“She’s abandoned her children!” the armchair experts cry. But what do we really know

about the relationship Nicole has with Isabella and Connor? Or the post-divorce agreement she has with Tom, for that matter? What do we know about the access Nicole has to her own children, the forces that are at play and the pain it may be causing her?

During our interview, I asked Nicole about her eldest children and she spoke frankly about them, her love for them and why she resolutely refuses to discuss their lives in public.

And this seems to be part of the problem. Because she refuses to divulge the particulars of her private life, and because the celebrity-infused culture in which we live has conditioned us to believe every famous person is contractually-obliged to share every detail about their life whenever we demand it, we get annoyed. And into the vacuum left by Nicole’s silence we pour our own fanciful theories.

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Call me naïve, but on the subject of Isabella and Connor, I feel nothing but sympathy for Nicole. As I write in The Weekly article: “Two little people she reared, two little sets of hands she held and two warm little bodies she hugged to her and comforted when they stirred in the middle of the night are no longer a part of her daily life. And not even Hollywood superstar status can render a mother immune to the acute pain of that.”

And as for the criticisms so many people have felt entitled to heap upon Nicole because she and Keith chose to produce their latest child via a surrogate, I find it infuriating.

It is the height of arrogance to assume we know what particular medical conditions might have precipitated that decision. As many in the Mamamia community were quick to point out amid the maelstrom of online abuse that was flying in Nicole’s direction this week, dealing with issues of infertility is an intensely personal – and often painful – experience. Ultimately, it’s nobody’s business but Nicole and Keith’s.

Together with my wife and two kids, I’ve just spent the past ten years living and working in Paris.

I used to tell anyone who would listen how the difference between Australian and French women was the complete lack of a sisterhood in France. After a decade living among them, I was struck by how few French women supported one another. But I have to say, I’m starting to wonder if Australia isn’t just as bad.

Here’s a thought: let’s be just a little bit kinder to one another. I know it sounds crazy, but let’s try not to pass judgment on another when we don’t know the full story of their life. Let’s try to operate from a default position of compassion rather than cynicism and aggression. Let’s give people the benefit of the doubt rather than think the worst of them from the outset. And here’s a wild thought: let’s celebrate the success of others. Let’s buy into the concept, however zany it may sound, that the success of one of our tribe elevates us all. Or if not celebrate them, let’s at least acknowledge their achievements. Let’s, moreover, just leave people to lead the lives they choose to lead.

As Nicole herself said during our chat: “I think I’m at a point where I’ve just had so many things said about me that I just ignore it. I’m 43 now. I live my life knowing who I am and knowing that it will play out over however long it is that I have left to live. I would hope that at the end of it all my authenticity will shine through and my life will shine through. All I can do in the meantime is live my life the best that I can and take care of the people in my life the best that I can.”

And not even the most hardened hater can find fault with that.

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608 Comments so far

  1. CM

    Oh for goodness sake! I can’t believe there are so many people who have so much venom towards Nicole. Question: do any of you know her personally?

    I never understand why people have such passionate opinions about celebrities!! If you don’t actually know someone (and often, even if you do) I don’t think you have the right to speculate on their marriage/ divorce/ pregnancy/ medical history/ abilities as a parent/ cosmetic choices Etc etc etc (and no, saying “well I know someone who knew someone who knows them” does not count). You never get the full story with a celebrity. You get their media image. The real person is a different thing altogether.

    I doubt Nicole is perfect. I understand why people may not be a fan of her acting. But to criticise her personally when you don’t know her at all is just pathetic.

    How about we all mind our own business, and redirect our venom towards issues in this world that are actually deserving of it.

    Rant ended ;)

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  2. Those who live in glass houses....

    To the haters….What a disgrace! Grow up and worry about your own patch. I’m sure all of you are absolutely perfect.

    Ridiculous!

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  3. Susan

    All I can say about these hateful comments is that …. GET A LIFE people y be hateful about a person u don’t know personally but only thru the media n movies …. Shish this is HER LIFE this is what she chooses to do with HER LIFE n I commend her for living HER LIFE….. Now go out n spread some LOVE with YOUR LIFE readers

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  4. LaurenH

    Really late to the party here, but it pisses me off the way people are about Nicole so i wanted to comment.

    Nicole has been my favourite actress since she, in all her curly redheaded glory, abused future husband Tom Cruise in a scene from Days of Thunder. I was 10 and 20+ years later i still know it word for word. She always strikes me as someone with a great sense of humour who doesn’t take herself too seriously and certainly doesn’t think supremely highly of herself. She is proud to be an Australian and does a lot of excellent work for charity here. I think she is positively stunning, has almost impeccable taste in clothes and is a brilliant actress. There is a reason there is a little gold man on the shelf called Oscar! Oh, and Keith is fabulous. She did well there. Certainly a step up from that crazy little yank…. Australians should be proud of her, not constantly cutting her down.

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  5. mrknowitall

    The only shortcoming I can think of Nicole Kidman has is her taste in men. I have heard some women say she is too skinny, but these were American women not Australian. I am sure she ain’t perfect, but as I do not know her I can only judge what I can see — and as I said, her taste in men is questionable.

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  6. Stella

    I know it’s quite late to comment, but I just want to add my 2 cents. I think I can see why Nicole invokes strong, negative reactions in some women. I think that her image is so polished and poised, that it can be said that she even looks a bit smug about herself. She is beautiful and elegant, with a great career, but her poise and the glint in her eyes make her look smug to some women, who subconsciously picks this up and interprets this as a personal attack on their person. For how else can you explain why women feel such hatred when they don’t know anything about Nicole the woman.

    I however do not find Nicole threatening at all. She seems very elegant and I applaud her commitment to skin protection and staying pale and beautiful when everyone worships sun tan and sun damage. After seeing her performance in Dogville, in which she was the shining star, I perceive her as a very serious and talented actress.

    I am glad to hear that she does not listen to the hatred from strangers and is living her life her way and cares not for rubbish and noise that don’t matter much to her at the end of the day.

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  7. Curmudgeon

    It really is perplexing how Nicole Kidman elicits such strong opinions and feelings from people. I think it is interesting, in itself, that this post is still generating constant comments (yes, including my own) months after it was published here.

    I am also one who has never liked Nicole. Or perhaps I should say I have never liked her ‘public image’, because I don’t know the first thing about her and her private life. Yet, somehow, mention of her always makes my blood boil. And I really don’t know why. Seriously. I’m not kidding myself or being intentionally ignorant about my feelings to excuse my irrational dislike of the woman. I just can’t put my finger on what it is about her that provokes such a strong negative reaction from me.

    I have thrown a whole heap of possible reasons out there – she appears so smug all the time, so haughty, so cold, so privileged. Maybe it’s just tall poppy syndrome? Jealousy? The fact my husband thinks she’s tops? But, these reasons could be applied to any number of celebrities (or ‘mere’ mortals) out there and I doubt they would irritate me (and many others it seems) half as much as Nicole does.

    Maybe I have been influenced by the malicious stories or her apparent devious and calculating rise to stardom (for I have always believed her to be over-rated as an actor…. maybe that has something to do with it?) or her ‘fake’ pregnancy. Maybe it is the Tom Cruise thing…the Keith Urban thing? Nope, I’m not convinced by any of those explanations so why am I a complete cow when it comes to Nicole Kidman?

    I don’t give a toss about her beauty regime or what she has said about it. I don’t have an opinion on the surrogacy. I admire her continued commitment to her homeland. She doesn’t deserve such vitriol, but for some reason she inspires it. Perhaps it is some unique combination of factors? I guess some people just rub others up the wrong way – whether you know them or not!

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  8. Loulee

    Yes this is something that I have pondered – the strong dislike for Nicole out there. I am not a fan of her acting. She leaves me cold. I didn’t enjoy her performance in The Hours for which she won her Oscar. I found her strangely miscast as the grieving wife and mother in her big break movie Dead Calm. But back then it was pretty common knowledge amongst the film industry that she was an extremely ambitious young actress and was having an affair with the director Phil Noyce. He apparently opened a lot of doors for her in Hollywood, including helping her to again be ridiculously miscast (as a neurosurgeon) in Days of Thunders. And there she met Tom Cruise. The marriage to Tom was rumoured to be a marriage of convenience – a contract marriage where she got the huge career and he had the “beard” of a wife. Having known someone who escaped Scientology it is a most bizarre and controlling religion and Nicole doesn’t strike me as the kind of person who would be willing to go even that far for her career. Who knows. It seems pretty obvious that her two older children are in the grip of Scientology and their powerful father so that should explain a lot. I doubt she has much say in their lives. So now she seems happy enough with Keith and best of luck to them with their kids. (The comments about her faking her pregnancy and having no uterus are fascinating and shocking.) But yes ultimately the bizarre waxwork dummy appearance of her facial features and repeated denials of having had work done breaks that cardinal rule of being an Aussie – aren’t we supposed to tell it like it is and be true blue honest Aussie Sheilas?

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  9. Solanda

    It’s because people think she’s dishonest and fake. She pretends, not just on the screen but in real life. People feel manipulated by her dishonesty. She does bizarre things to her appearance and says it’s just sun tan lotion. Gimmee a break Nicole!

    Nothing adds up about her. Everyone has a story they have heard about her. Tom Cruise divorced her because he thought she was unfaithful. She has 2 adopted children, yet she kept talking about her yearnings to have a child???? How would this have made her adopted children feel. She lives away from her adopted children and hardly sees them. She apparently has a medical condition that means she can not have a child but she did?? Like I said nothing adds up.

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    • chic

      no offence intended Solanda, but it doesn’t hurt to read interviews before making judgement. i’ve never been a huge fan of nicole but i have rewad the odd interview that provides enough explanation to not invite malicious comment. yes she has two adopted children–whre’s the harm? she had had one successful pregnancy but others that didn’t come to fruition. and age 42 is a difficult time for any woman to conceive, let alone one with a history of fertility and pregnancy troubles. if a friend of any of ours opted for ivf, would we be likely to give them such a hard time? full disclosure of medical issues just because you’re fdamous in not necessary, nor should it ever be. everyone is entitled to privacy, regardless of whether its about a failed marraige, children, health, etc.

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      • Anonymous

        THe woman is know in the medical industry to not be able to carry a baby as she does not have a uterus. This has been her best acting yet playing the pregnant woman.

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        • Gracie

          If you are in the “medical industry” then what happened to confidentiality? I find this claim absurd and it’s nobody’s business but hers! All these claims are absolute gossip! Grow up people! I personally don’t like Nicole Kidman’s acting, I’ve never enjoyed any of her characters. As for Nicole the person, I’ve never met her so how would I know!

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        • Erisvaldo

          Yes Ryan I must agree with the others the pics are great. Who would of thhogut you could get out of your Kelsey’s gear and have normal clothes on. I love the group shots and the background is great in all.Cheers my friend,Tracey

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  10. dancingprincess

    I think it’s the same mentality that leads to bullying in schools and workplaces. People find ways to justify their mean spirited attitudes with no concern or regard for the fact that she is just a human being with feelings. I always am amazed how insensitive people can be, and I find myself hoping she isn’t reading the nasty comments. The people making the comments are rather cold to just not care about the feelings of another – famous or not.

    Sometimes the fact that someone is famous is used as justification for bad treatment – it’s the price they should be prepared to pay. Just because someone follows a dream and has a particular career isn’t justification for being treated without respect or empathy.

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  11. Anonymous

    Once was a hater, but after watching her in Australia (the movie), felt a bit more liking towards her. I have no idea why I once hated her, though. Why do we love to hate people, doesn’t say much about us, does it? Now, don’t get me started on Kylie, there’s one I love to hate, and I know it has to do with her success and her lack of talent! Can’t stand seeing people with no great talent be as successful as she has been.

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  12. murderingtime

    Wow, I knew that some people in Australia disliked Nic, but I didn’t see how bad the Vitriol was until I read the comments in this forum. I felt compelled to comment to play down all the negativity.
    Was it a case of Tall Poppy Syndrome to start with (I mean the 90′s)? And then it escalated from there?
    Not all people are going to have personalities we like, but we should respect and tolerate people for who they are.
    I don’t know much about the lass, but she’s intensely private, and obviously speculation has gone rife and gotten out of hand. It seems to have built and built.

    Anyone else there going to stand up for Nic?

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    • Lilly Taylor

      I will stand up for her! A really good read about Nicole in the Women’s Weekly, thanks Bryce! I had the privledge of meeting her long before her fame in the US. She was very sweet. At the time I thought she had made friends with a few, less than authentic, people in the media. I wonder if that’s where it all started?

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    • chic

      i only got about a quarter of the way down the page and couldnt read any more horrible comments. these people are awful.

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    • Anonymous

      NO thanks

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  13. Nicki

    I prefer Nicole Kidman to Angelina Jolie.

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  14. juliaford

    I think Nicole is lovely.And I don’t care that she is not “honest” with us about all the private details of her life.It’s none of our business.She is a successful actress who has been in some of my favourite movies,she was fantastic in rabbit hole and deserves her success.As for her giving off an unrealistic image nothing in this world is ever as it seems
    and we need to teach our daughters all that glitters is not gold.Even when people seem to have everything ,they all have their cross to bare.Give the girl a break .She is not public property.

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    • Anonymous

      Nicole Kidman makes me yawn, insipid actress..

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  15. AJS

    The fact that she thinks she is worth $17 MILLION a movie and commanded that salary. She has won one Oscar from 2 nominations. And she thinks she is worth $17 mil a movie because of that? PUH-LEASE.

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    • Olivia

      Still more Oscars than Leonardo DiCaprio.

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  16. Anne

    I liked Nicole as an actress and public persona until two things happened that turned me off her:

    1. When she divorced from Tom Cruise she would often comment on the difficulties of being a ‘single mother’ in terms of dating and other associated hardships. Having known people who worked for her intimately I can assure you she has a large team of people who do everything for her down to some activities which astounded me for what can only be described as arrogant laziness. So when she would try and associate herself with what many average single mums go through – I was angry and irritated by her.

    2. You talk about a lack of sisterhood in Australia but just echoing others here, when she came out and blatantly said she was completely natural and didn’t put anything into her face in Marie Claire, this to me was complete contempt for the sisterhood – think of all the young girls reading mags thinking they could never attain such a ‘natural’ beauty as this!

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  17. natasha

    The simple fact that the woman is known in the medical industry as not having a uterus and we see photos of her phantom pregnancy is the simple reason I dislike the woman. Fake pregnancy bump, and then her comment ‘ I am all natural’ when describing her face when she has been injecting herself with botox and fillers for years . At the end of the day people warm to honesty & she has falsified too much.

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  18. jenniferregan

    The thing I find annoying about Nicole is that she projects a “little miss perfect” demeanour.

    I warm towards people with a few chinks in their armour.

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  19. Teresa

    comments by Bryce:
    For it seems to me that Nicole Kidman is engaged in what must be a most dissatisfying unrequited love affair with her homeland

    Wow…. what a giving woman she is to her country…Wow we should give her the highest honour, and Australian ever got, lets give her the ‘ORDER OF AUSTRALIA”……..ohh we already did that, didn’t we?…
    Wasn’t it terrific the way she was so honoured by the gift her country bestowed on her, so honoured, that she didn’t even bother to come here on australia day to receive it. Why??? because she had a bigger and better publicity jaunt to appear at , in a couple of days time in the USA, heck who cares about a crappy award from Australia?…
    To be amabassador of abused women, to the united nations gets more milage in the USA and the world.
    But exactly what has she done as ambasador?… appeared at a conference?
    I do however see her though, appear in a magazine half dressed, with a whip in her hand… talking about her husbands fantasys and hers…how does this promote abuse against women?.. the entire story looked to be all the opposite for what she is suppose to stand for.

    This is the same woman that pays women to look after her children, and even hired a womans body, is this not abuse of women?

    As for her promotion of Australia… and what she does for the country, is total rubbish!

    Did she not get paid for her appearances on Oprah?…and who was she paid by?… The Australian tourism department, not by Oprah but with our tax payers money.
    Then you state the donation to the bushfires, ALL TAX DEDUCTABLE!…..she has to do this, so she doesn’t loose money in taxes.

    I must say, I loved what they did for all the victims of Keith’s home town caboolture, and Brisbane when they endured floods , heck they didn’t even acknowledge those people… until he was coming to Australia for his tour in April, then he made a statement, those people at the times of the floods, were looking for inspirational words, to get them through a hard time, from their home boy Keith and Nicole… THEY WERE IGNORED, when they needed them most.

    I also recall Nicole and keith saying , their dream was to spend 6 months in australia and six months in the USA… all lies, I see it said in the pro nicole posts that she is very private… what a load of rubbish that is….We hear more about Nicole than we do Russel Crow, or hugh Jackman, you don’t see them always wanting attention in the way you see Nicole do it.

    I’m only touching on somethings here, I could list many many more…
    but will go onto yet another reason for the dislike of Nicole.

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    • You must know it all

      Wow! Just wow! You really must know it all…

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  20. Teresa

    My goodness..I’ve sat here and read all these posts, the pro Nicole and the negative Nicole. And this rubbish story written by Bryce. I will explain why I feel this story doesn’t reflect the person that Nicole Kidman is.
    This question Bryce posed:
    Does she lead a life that is so reprehensible, so offensive to common decency, so inexcusably bad that she deserves to be burned at the stake?

    From my corner of the world I do believe she has done many offensive things that I would not like any person I know to have performed, and because it is Nicole Kidman, are you asking us to just close our eyes to the things she has done? The lies, the deception, the abuse?
    I will explain why I make those comments. But I am not sure you will want to hear them.

    #1 lets start with the gestational surrogacy.
    I found it to be a total disreguard and respect for HER SON Connor, The day they made the announcement of Faith, just so happened to be his 16th birthday. This is a day that should be kept aside to let him know how much he is loved and appreciated, it’s a special day turning 16, all the attention and love, should have been directed at him. But was it?….No, it was like Nicole shoved him aside to promote her brand new baby! wanting the worlds attention on her and her new child that she just paid thousands of dollars for!
    This rubbish about fertility problems, how does she know she couldn’t have another child?..did she give it more than 3 months after the birth of Sunday?…think about the time span, between having Sunday , and when the gestational carrier would have had to of been pregnated? How would Nicole of been able to keep working and complete contracts she had made for movies, if she had been pregnant at that time?
    Why would someone not appreciate the children they have already? and feel blessed and grateful they already have the gift of 3 children.
    But then again, she has nanny’s. Which is lucky for her, how else could she have partied all night and attended so many ceremonies and awards, if she had to stay home those first two months of Faith’s life, a time when I would suspect that bonding with a child is important.
    One thing that also amazes me about nicole, is how she drags the kids out, when she releases a movie, you don’t see much of them in between movies, but the moment one is released, she just so happens to drag out photos of them, and have them seen at certain places.
    I believe this is why Connor and Isabella do not want her to mention them in interviews, They don’t want to be used and abused in this way, or for the advancment of Nicole. I think these kids have their head screwed on right , when it comes to dealing with their mothers ambitions and demands.They know how high maintance their mother really is. and how she expects them to fit in the mould, she wants them to portray, but they won’t play her games.
    Then there is the fact that nicole portrays herself to be of good catholic faith, asking for an annulment from Tom etc…If she was of good catholic faith, why is she going against her church’s beliefs, and paying someone to prostitute their body for her own gratification and wants?
    And then to top that off, makes this woman sound as if she is nothing…makes her sound as if she is totally diconnected from Faith, because it was Keith’s sperm and Nicoles egg. She is nothing but a gestational carrier.

    These are just my thoughts on this area of what I see of Nicole kidman, and this subject of her baby Faith, and all her children.
    See my next post to the other reasons why this woman is a liar, and disliked for it.

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  21. Kelly

    My theory on Nicole is that she carries residue from the arrogant, cold, haughty, better than everyone else Ice Queen she exuded when she was married to the King of Hollywood Tom Cruise. She changed considerably when she was dumped, kicked to the curb and humiliated by her divorce. Since then she has been humbled with one of the world’s great leveller’s: divorce. I like her now: botox and all.

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  22. Anonymous

    The day she zapped off every freckle on her body was the day I went off her.

    Her skin is as cold as her persona.

    She needs to loosen up and we’d probably all like her again.

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  23. J

    Of all the people in the world that need a voice and empathy I really don’t think that Nicole Kidman makes the list?

    Seriously, that para of “let’s celebrate Nicole” makes me think… “First world problems”…

    Sorry, but I am sure she’s going to make it.

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  24. Anonymous

    1. Botox
    2. Botox
    3. Botox
    4… Botox

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  25. Kate!

    I like Nicole. She’s not trashy, she keeps appropriate levels of privacy and shes a very fine actor. Iv not seen her do anything offensive and she didnt even trash talk Tom Cruise after he dumped her, which must have been hard.

    Nothing to dislike as far as I can tell.

    Im delighted for her and Keith to have a new baby.

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  26. Christine

    As soon as I finished a “Town Like Paris” I was literally ready to pack my bags and head off on my own adventure. I read ALOT of books and I’ve got to say Corbett’s book really inspired me…

    I know my comment is totally unrelated to Nicole Kidman (who I think was great in Just go with it) but I just wanted to mention how much I loved his book!

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  27. Jo

    I think it is the element of acting….as in she just acts, not only in her movies, but in life in general. There is something fake in the way she comes across, like life is a constant p.r tour….I think there are a few celebrities out there in a similar vein. Of course that is part of an actor’s job description but it seems to me that Nicole Kidman is always acting…perhaps she doesn’t really know who she is. Perhaps the public pick up on this.

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  28. michelle WA

    Have just found this site and have for a while needed to get this of my chest, “”Gestational Carrier”", how arrogant and distant is this statement. When did this complex relationship, frought with emotional and legal difficulties/insecurities for all parties concerned deserve such a hollow tag. Regardless of ones oppinion on surrogacy surely the woman who carriers and nurtures this child deserves positive and enclusive recognition for the very important and i am sure in many cases alturistic role they have in this relationship.
    It is this sort of accedemic/ psycobabble statement if made by nicole kiddman that does not endear her to many woman/ mothers who do and can show compassion for woman who remain childless and may enter a surrogacy arrangement to fulfill their great need to have a child.

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    • Eternally

      It is a medical term. What would you suggest? There is no terminology that will sum up the immense gratitude felt by Nicole & Keith and others in their situation.
      I’m not sure what your last sentence is supposed to mean. I hope that you are acknowledging just how deep the longing to have a child can be.

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      • michelle WA

        Fully aware of medical terminology, however in this context of acknowledging the immense gratitude felt by nicole & keith and others, it still remains for me an arrogant and distant statement.

        Birth mother, birth partner a couple of suggestions.

        Last sentence acknowledges how surrogacy fulfills a great need to have a child, not dis simular, from the “”deep longing to have a child.”"

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  29. Cass Daniels

    I think Nicole Kidman is amazing.

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  30. Dusk

    “…a two-hour love-song to her country of birth.

    She was born in Hawaii.

    People, particularly women, like their celebrities like Mia. Apologetic and “honest” about their “failings”. Apparently this makes them ‘down to earth’ and “just like us”.

    Please note: I am NOT having a go at Mia. I am making an observation. I love Mia but if she was my friend, I would rib her for using self-deprecation as a popularity tool.

    PLEASE also note: Mia is not my friend therefore, because I don’t have to put up with that “please like me” manner in real life… I absolutely adore her and believe that she is going to be THE most influential female voice in Australia soon enough.

    It’s why Angelina Jolie gets such a vitriolic reaction from her (Team Anniston) detractors. Reading comments on any post about Angelina… oh wow… evil, hateful, nasty comments from those that insist she’s the devil. And yet… Anniston doesn’t get the same ‘calibre’ of negative comments. “bland and boring” “useless” “Rachel” etc… that’s about it.

    Jolie really looks like she doesn’t give a damn what you think, good or bad, she has it all anyway. She is a wild child and an earth mother. Drop dead gorgeous with a drop dead gorgeous partner and a rainbow family. A superficial job, getting paid millions for pretending to be someone else and yet… the real person spends her time helping who she can and being who she is, whether you like it or not.

    Anniston… as gorgeous and fun, etc as she appears to be and rich and famous… is no Jolie.

    Even though I am pretty sure she is happy being single, women like to feel sorry for Anniston because she is single. All that fame, fortune and paddle-boarding and she still can’t “get” a man. Tsk tsk. Poor girl.

    Kidman has kept quiet about everything. She gets pregnant and merely looks like she ate a heavy lunch. Her skin is flawless and she’s funny. Her movies flop more often than they fly yet she’s always working and men seem to be dazzled by her luminosity. She’s always giggly yet she looks cold. We complain about her giggles and we complain about her coldness. She doesn’t need to put herself down, the rest of us do it for her. Therefore we should all, by now… adore the hell out of her!

    Strangely enough I have never warmed to her but I don’t dislike her. Certainly not the way you do Mia! I don’t really give a rats if she has had botox and eye of newt. I don’t understand the need for botox and all that at all, particularly not for an actor but I also don’t care that much and I also don’t understand why anyone does and why actors are considered role models.

    They play a role. They are NOT role models! Actors are essentially insecure. You have to be in order to completely rid yourself of who you are in order to be someone else. And win an Oscar for it.

    The problem with Nicole is that women feel the need to relate to each other through their failings not through their successes.

    Would the reaction have been different if she had made a reality show about the whole “gestational carrier” process? Let us get to be part of her pain? Or would we have accused her of being an attention seeker?

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  31. Kym

    Well said Bryce.

    I have always admired Nicole’s ability to remain dignified throughout her divorce to Tom, her refusal to discredit him and her staunch protection of her family. How many of us could stand such public pressure and scrutiny?

    Good luck to her and Keith, and their daughters Sunday and Faith. For those of us blessed with a family that came easily – let’s just appreciate what we have and understand that others need to resort to more drastic measures to achieve their dreams. I wish them every happiness.

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  32. miss m

    i always ‘hated nicole’ too but i used to be a journalist and had the opportunity to be backstage at an awards show a few years back. nicole was under NO obligation to answer any questions as i was not in a designated media zone, but she stopped and chatted and was incredibly friendly. i was totally taken aback. and it totally changed my opinion of her. it made me think that perhaps her ‘cold’ media persona was actually shyness. with a camera off of her, she seemed like a thoroughly warm, kind and regular girl… she is also incredibly naturally beautiful – no amount of botox could giver her that gorgeous tall/slim figure and striking red hair. she stands out a mile.

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  33. Emma Grima

    Nicole is an amazing person and am greatful for her sharing her news/knowledge of her struggle for conceiving…she did not have to share at all being in the public eye and expectation of being criticised but people should look at the strength she has shown to talk about it and maybe others who are out there can be greatful there is hope..she does not inspire any vitriol with me..people need to stop being jealous and if they were happy with their own lives they would not need to be jealous

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  34. Leanne

    I’d make a post here, but I’m so apathetic about her and celebrity in general I can’t be bothered….

    :D

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  35. Annette Smith

    It’s because SHE’S GOT IT ALL! And we’re jealous as hell. Duh.

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  36. Grumpy

    I’ve always thought she comes across as a lovely person, but I want to be her manager. She’s a great comic actress (along with the kid, oh, and David Wenham, I thought she was the best thing about the woeful film Australia) but not a great dramatic actress. I found her hammy Virginia Woolf performance a slap in the face.

    Why do people hate her? No idea. It may be that her acting accolades do outstrip her talent. But that’s Hollywood. She’s remotely beautiful rather than sexually smoldering – perhaps that’s it. She’s probably tainted by her unfortunate first marriage. I’ve always felt sorry for her for losing those kids, and very happy she fell in love.

    Maybe it’s just Tall Poppyology. Australians do hate a success story.

    P.S. We were forced to give up IVF when I was 40 – broke, depressed, and undeniably infertile. If we could have afforded a surrogate, I would not have hesitated to go down that route. Good for her.

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  37. rachel

    Mia you have to know why your followers in this community ‘don’t like Nicole’. On many occasions you have criticised Nicole like she was your arch enemy and boyfriend stealer from high school. I once read an interview about Nicole in which she talked about not being invited to her high school reunion, which she would love to have attended, and every time you write something about her I wonder if you were on that reunion committee.

    I’ve been avoiding reading this post and others about Nicole because I was pretty sure it would just contain more of the same. However, kudos to you for opening the door to highlighting some other things about Nicole and redirecting the focus of this community. I’ve just read some of the other recent ‘Nicole’ posts which were also free of whether or not she uses and admits to botox and fillers, and how cranky that makes you, but surely you realise how many times you sang that song, leading the way for this community to annihilate Nicole.

    Great piece Bryce, I wholeheartedly agree, and love the fact that you have noticed and appreciate the sisterhood of Aussie women, one of our greatest cultural pluses. I love your suggestions for keeping this spirit alive, and wish women everywhere would MAKE THIS OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND CODE OF CONDUCT everywhere!

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  38. Aleisha

    The reason is probably because Nicole comes off as really cold and unapproachable, even b!tchy. None of us knows her, but that is the person she gives off to the public. But most of all, she comes across to me as totally fake and a liar.

    You wanted to know…

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  39. Darcy Moran

    I don’t hate her, but her acting exhasperates me; well paid though she may be she’s a celluloid death sentence.

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  40. Mytwocents

    Why? Because we were all rooting for her at the beginning of her career when she was the fresh gangly, natural, aussie chick then somewhere along the line she sold out to Hollywood and alienated us all with her quest for physical perfection and her denial of it.

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    • Anonymous

      That about sums it up for me too.

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  41. Daisy

    Dont know really? I don’t like her much either! Her finnally admitting to using botox sums it up for me. I couldn’t care what she uses but just admit to it for Gods Sake No Biggi!

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    • Asep

      Cherishing the moments, hainvg shots like these brings back memories and special times in your lives. These photos certainly captured those heart melting smiles and kisses and those special times together. Amazing!!!! Love them all!!!

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  42. LK

    really enjoyed this by Bryce – I’ve always felt a bit nonplussed about Nicole, but to be honest couldn’t really tell you why. The reaction she stirs in people has always fascinated me too, so I guess I’ve been swept along with the various theories and arguments. Bryce’s article made me realise that approach is pretty darn unfair. She certainly has never done anything to offend me – I’ll try to remember that more often.

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  43. Sarah

    I’ve actually never heard anyone putting Nicole down, except to say they might not have liked her acting in a particular movie.

    I think this whole thing about Nicole has really been exaggerated by the media.

    I’m sure Nicole knows that 99.99% of Australians do not hate her. And only the haters would seek out online forums and sites to talk her down.

    I don’t care if she fibbed about Botox – it wasn’t as though she was trying to flog her own line of magic wrinkle cream.

    I’m not a Nicole supporter, but agree 100% with the above article. What the hey has she done wrong?

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  44. Claire

    She’s also nearly 44 years old, do you think this has anything to do with her ‘fertility problems’? Maybe nature was saying she is too old to have another baby? Having said that, I’m all for surrogacy and don’t see the problem with it, I would be willing to be a ‘gestational carrier’ myself for a close family member.

    I do hate it when celebs lie about Botox etc when it is patently obvious that they have had it. I loved it when Kerry Anne Kennerly had work done, and everyone was commenting on it and she was totally upfront about what she’d had done, and the story went away.

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  45. Maggie

    I think Australian women are very supportive of each other – but honesty is a requirement! Yes, I’m annoyed at celebrities who lie about how they maintain their looks because it has a negative impact on other women and how they feel about themselves. But she is just an actor and must fit in with the expectations of Hollywood. WE should not expect high standards of behaviour from people who pretend for a living any more than footy players etc.

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    • Fed up

      I do not agree with your comment, I work in a large corporation. Women are our own worst enemies, the things Ive seen done by some women to get ahead of others is disgusting, and they are things that would never be done against a man. I have to agree, there is no solidarity in Australia either.

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  46. MissBee

    You go Nicole – they way she handled herself after her marriage to Tom disintergrated was amazing. I was also going through a traumatic break up and would say to myself, be like Nicole, be like Nicole… I am sure she is an amazing mother and a truly genuine person.

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  47. Jo

    Well said Bryce. I wouldn’t call myself a great fan of Nicole’s movies, but can’t begin to comprehend the vitriol of so many recent contributors.
    She’s a successful Australian woman, seems to give support back to her country and has displayed dignity in not selling her personal story on more than one occasion. What happened to ‘live and let live’?

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  48. Lu

    She comes from what appears to be a very close loving family. From that you can only assume her relationship with her adopted children is not controlled by her and not her choice. And her surrogacy is because she has suffered fertility problems. I dont see the big deal. Its her business after all.
    I dont like to advertise to anyone other than close girlfriends that I’m a bottle blonde and that I get spray tans when I can, so why should she have to reveal she uses anything on her skin?

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  49. Lea @TheGraciousHost.com.au

    The other person who seems to inspire this sort of cattiness is Gwyneth Paltrow. The two women are beautiful and talented, have functional families but (heaven forbid) like to keep their private lives private.

    That seems to be the crux of it – the public feels like we deserve to know every part of celebrity life and when they go out of their way to deny it of us, we get very angry and suddenly accuse them of being ‘cold’. It’s stupid.

    PS – about the whole Botox thing, noone seems to have clued in that she denied Botox in an interview in 2000, and then admitted to having used it in 2010. So she could have used it anytime in the intervening DECADE without having lied. Talk about believing the worst of someone!

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    • Lu

      I read an article about Gwenyth the other day about how she’s just a working mum like everyone else, trying to juggle it all. And she was trying to convince us…she went through her day, and it went from making breakfast, dropping her kids to school. And then ended with her not having to collect her kids and that she went out for dinner with friends and didnt get home until after 11pm! Thats when she lost me. I dont know any normal working mums juggling their family who have the luxury of someone else collecting their kids for them so they can go out for dinner until late.

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      • Lea @TheGraciousHost.com.au

        Hi Lu, I read that too, but that was actually from her newsletter where she does ‘a day in the life’ of 3 women, one of them being herself. It’s not an ‘I’m just like you’ article, it’s a response to someone who asked her how she juggles work with being a mum. And if you think Gwyneth’s was bad, you should’ve read one of the other women’s stories – it’s incredibly unattainably CRAZY! You can read it here: http://www.goop.com/newsletter/112/en/

        (BTW on that particular day, she makes dinner with her kids, baths them and puts them to bed before going out with her girlfriends that night. Not trying to defend, just laying out the facts as I read them)

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  50. Anonymous

    She looks like Meg Ryan now – that mouth!

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    • Anonymous

      Exactly. Putting a bit of eyeliner on before you leave the house is a far cry from having stuff pumped into your face to make you look like a non-human freak. I think she looks horrible.

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