Nina and Patrick after trying to save a baby
I’m no TV critic. Well, I have a TV and an opinion so perhaps I am. Just like everyone else who has both of those things. Seriously, I have been a fan of Offspring from the first episode but tonight’s show was something special. In the main storyline, main character Nina, an obstetrician, tries to save the baby of a woman who had been involved in a car accident with her partner.
You can watch the episode on Ten’s website here.
The head writer and creator of Offspring is Australian playwright and author Debra Oswald (you can listen to a terrific interview she did with my favourite radio interviewer Richard Fidler on Conversations here) must be congratulated along with the other writers and actors. And Channel 10 for comissioning the show’s first, second and now third series.
I can’t recall an issue as common – yet hidden – as pregnancy loss and the loss of a baby, being covered on prime time TV. Not in a popular TV show. Not in a movie. Very rarely do you see it covered in popular culture at all. And yet it is soooo common.
It has happened to me and almost every woman I know. So why is it so rare to see it portrayed on TV? Most pregnancies end happily but not all. And for those of us who have experienced the intense, earth-shaking grief that comes with losing a baby, it’s somehow validating….is that the right word? Not quite. It’s….just……important, so important to have that experience portrayed as part of the landscape of life.
It’s vital in reassuring us that we’re normal. We’re not alone. Our experiences are real and heartbreaking and connect us with every other woman – and man – who has been devastated by the loss of a baby.
Are there TV shows – past or current – that move you?
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I didn’t watch Offspring on TV because it didn’t strike me as the kind of show I would get into, and then one of my friends recommended that I watch it. Her case was compelling, so I gave it a go…
… I was instantly addicted. I watched both the first and second seasons in 4 days. Wow.
It is so well written, and Nina almost perfectly pinpoints the inner monologue that fills my head 99.99% of the day.
One of my male friends was shocked by my answer when he said to me “You girls don’t actually think like that do you?”
My friend and I looked at each other, and said “Uhmmm, it’s scarily accurate actually…”
His reply: “Man, I thought she [Nina] was just a one-off weirdo”
Can’t WAIT for the next season!!
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I am so happy and proud for Offspring. Australian TV I have always found to be embarrassing, in both content and quality, but Offspring is consistently fantastic. I don’t watch it all the time, because it’s not the genre I usually watch, but when I happen to, it hooks me in. I watched the season finale; me and my mum ended up yelling at the TV, squeeing, cheering and gasping.
There have been many moments in TV shows, movies and books that have moved me…they usually have to do with characters (no matter what story, time period or genre they are in) demonstrating to the audience what really matters in life, and making you seriously think about our own world and how we perceive it and us in it.
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I love every minute of offspring and the way it doesn’t just take a perfect blonde and give her the perfect man – she works, family problems, tragedies such as pregnancy loss are dealt with, and her relationships don’t just ‘happen’. SOmeone told me she was a terrible role model for women, and I’ll admit Nina can be emotionally unstable, but she is far healthier for young girls and women to observe than the model of a modern woman we see on other shows and on film.
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I always really connected with Buffy the Vampire Slayer – not so much the vampire part (obviously) but the way that high school was a battlefield.
I particularly liked Willow, the way that she was so smart, and yet felt invisible to her best friend who she had a crush on.
And lately, I really connected with the movie Bridesmaids. There were some real moments of truth in that movie, the way that she feels she ruined her life and is a failure – I connected with that.
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Love it, makes me laugh, makes me cry, I want to hang out with them all in the bar and watch Klegg work (how funny is he??). Great great Aussie show
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I can’t get enough of it, I love, love, love it… especially since it’s just so great to have an Australian show doing so well.
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I absolutely love Offspring and I am thrilled it’s on twice a week! The characters are brilliant…Asher Keddie is my girl crush at the moment, she is hilarious and I love her style.
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Yes Offspring is by far the best show on TV right now. It’s a weekly event in our household, the three of us girls sit on the couch with a glass of wine and enjoy the best showcase of Australian talent, both in the acting and writing department. Fresh, honest and damn hilarious.
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Love Offspring great scripts and great acting Asher Keddie is truely something special loved her too in LOVE MY WAY!
Fine Aussie work and so proud its filmed in my hometown go Asher.
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Yes.
Offspring is the best show on TV right now.
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Offspring is all kinds of awesome to me. I am addicted to it in the way I was addicted to Secret Life of Us..well, the first couple of series anyway.
But the most pressing issue at present is why did my anaesthetist not look in any way shape or form like Patrick????
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Yep I lurve offspring. Asher Kedie is fantastic. Billie grated me at first but they have toned her down now and she is good too.
I really liked that they dealt with an infertility storyline. That is something that you don’t see much of at all. And I think they handled it all really well although I feel that it happened very quickly (that infertility rollercoaster generally takes quite a while of tests, planning etc). I thought it was good to show that sometimes, like babies and pregnancy, getting pregnant doesn’t work either. IVF doesn’t work for everyone and there are some potential complications which can be life threatening.
Love my way was a great series too (I only saw the first series though) and Six feet under was fantastic!!
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It surprised me too that Billie fell pregnant so quickly, but I think she’ll miscarry personally…
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I agree! Pregnancy loss and the difficulties some women face to try and fall pregnant is such a commonality yet, it seems we don’t talk about it enough.
I am completely obsessed with Offspring, it’s such a great show that highlights real issues most of us have experienced or will experience at some point in our lives. Nina Proudman played by Asher Keddie is such an amazing actress, she plays the role so damn well, she is absolutely hilarious.
My husband is quite happy to watch the show too and was totally moved by last night’s episode.
So excited it’s on twice this week.
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Made my husband – and his mate – go to the pub to watch the footy because Offspring was on. Lucky for me he knows how very much I love it/am obsessed with it. He then came home and watched the last 20 minutes with me and demanded I fill him in on what had happened!!
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It came as a total shock to me that my Sex and the City-hating husband is obsessed with Offspring, he won’t miss it! To be honest, we both only tuned in after the preview where Nina’s in the bath getting into a bit of “DIY” as I like to call it
but the dialogue and plotlines have kept us hooked. Love Billie and Mick, I find Jimmy’s character way too annoying, though. I am also coveting pretty much everything in Nina’s apartment and sometimes the mum’s house, great interior designer they’ve got. Patrick’s apartment is great, but honestly doesn’t look like an ex-meth addict’s bachelor pad!!!!
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Is offspring the best show on tv?
YES !!!
i love this show – the characters are just so fabulous.
And ha ! ‘Cherie’ made me laugh so much last night.
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Heee hee “He’s grinding me like coffee”…………….!!! absolute classic
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The whole show was a classic last night – and Asher Keddie is definitely my girl crush right now….
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My girl crush too!
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I am so loving Offspring right now.
Last night’s episode was hard for me to watch, being nearly full term and so scared about the prospect of something going wrong with my precious baby.
But I thought it was dealt with so beautifully.
The first season was great, and I think it is just getting better and better. I think it is probably the only show on tv women can relate to, having such great female characters in Nina and Billie.
The story of Billie and IVF was dealt with with humour and heart.
I Love Love Love this show!
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I felt the same way, Guest – I’m also nearly full-term, and I cried my eyes out.
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Heartfelt is an organisation of professional photographers that freely offer their time to take photographs of families that have that have suffered from such a tragedy:
Hearfelt – http://www.heartfelt.org.au/
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So glad you brought this up, MelG. I have been singing Heartfelt’s praises for a long time. Everyone should familiarise themselves with them and go and like their Facebook page. I was “lucky” enough to have Heartfelt come and take photos of my stillborn daughter Hope, and I hate to think where I’d be now without those photos. They are the organisation you hope you never have to know about but the organisation you don’t want to be without if the unthinkable happens to you, or someone close to you.
Even though it was only a TV show last night, I was still hoping that couple got photos. Would have even liked to see that shown on the show itself.
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Yes Offspring is the best tv show ever! I looove it! How awesome is it that it’s Aussie!
Makes me so proud!
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Oh I love Offspring however the last few weeks I have been in tears whilst watching it. As I fed my 2 week old daughter last night during the show I cried and cried as that poor couple held their deceased baby – I thought once I was no longer pregnant it would be easier to watch but sadly no. Then the emotional rollercoaster as Nina told her sister she was pregnant, slept with the hottest anesthetist ever, spoke of trying to protect her family when she was younger… it was all a bit too much for me. It is one of the two best shows on Australian television – the other being Rake, which thankfully is also being given a third season. Now, off to buy some tissues for tomorrow night’s episode (bet tissue sales and chocolate sales increase now it is on twice a week….)
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I am obsessed with Offspring too.. it’s actually the only hour of tv I watch all week!
Last nights episode was very difficult for me to watch as I had a stillborn baby 4 months ago. Although, I have to say that when Nina was walking through the hospital corridor holding the (dead) baby and all around her were pregnant women and women holding lovely newborn babies, it was like they were filming a scene from my memory.. it was heartbreaking.
I agree with ‘Dulcie’s’ comment below that I couldn’t believe that Nina said to her sister ‘you are going to have a baby’… as she is only 4 or 5 weeks pregnant..
I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks and the next pregnancy I didn’t tell anyone I was pregnant until I got to the ‘safe’ 12 week mark. Then I had a miscarriage at 16 weeks and the next time I was pregnant I didn’t tell anyone until 18 weeks.. then this year, I had a stillborn baby at 23 weeks..
4 weeks pregnant is such a long way away from having a baby, although, I guess that most people do go on to have a baby and maybe it’s better to remain positive?!
I wrote about my story here..
http://growcooksew.blogspot.com/2011/03/life-without-grace.html
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Oh Katie, that little photo and your post have sent shivers down my spine and tears down my cheeks – there are so many sad stories on here today and I just hope that in the future you are able to give birth to a beautiful baby and find peace and happiness. I’m so sorry for your loss and for the loss that many others on this site have written about today.
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I am so sorry for your loss Katie…. x
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Firstly im so sorry for your losses Katie, my heart is heavy for you and your photo is very moving.
I too found myself saying last night when Nina told Billie she was preganant, going to be a mum and “your having a baby” that they shouldnt be so complaicent.
Then that was just me in my frame of mind having miscarried 6 weeks ago at 14 weeks pregnant. Had i not had this happen to me i wouldn’t have thought twice about it but it’s a different perspective on it all once youve had a loss during pregnancy. I was shocked to be thinking such things like “dont speak too soon Nina” and told myself off for it but couldn’t help what i thought.
Anyway, its fantastic that Offspring is covering such a common but not so often spoken about topic, well done to them.
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I’ve never been pregnant, and I was surprised they did that. Especially as it is Billie’s first pregnancy too. But I guess you have to celebrate good news when you can, even it may turn into bad news.
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Love this show too!!
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TOTALLY OBSESSED with this show as well. I also have watched from the very first episode and I love it more and more every week. LAst nights ep was heart wrenching, and I found myself also very moved by this. Thank god she didn’t have to have a hysterectomy, but many people do.
Maybe it is because I am of child rearing age it is so relevant, I don’t know, but I love Nina, I love Asher Keddie, I loved her on Paper Giants and she is just brilliant on Offspring.
I am so excited Offspring is now on 2 nights per week, just have to try to be home to watch them!
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now that i think about it back in the day when i used to watch home and away they sometimes had stories of pregnancy loss – i can also remember 2 babies passing away from SIDS. i guess it isnt that uncommon for drama shows to include serious issues of all kinds that might not otherwise be portrayed on television.
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Love love love offspring!! Havnt had a favourite show like this ages. I want to be a midwife so the whole maternity ward in the show makes me like it more. Beautiful way they showed the couple who lost their baby. It’s important to remind people that it happens more than what you think. I have 2 kids and felt my heart ache for every parent who has lost a baby. Checking on my beautiful babies sleeping made my feel oh so lucky!
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We were late comers to ER in our house, only really getting into it last year. There were many epsiodes that really go to me particularly as a hormonal new mum.
The very hardest was when Dr Carter and his partner lost their baby very late in pregnancy. We saw those episodes not long after we lost our twins (and, I understand that having a still born is far more traumatic than a mid term miscarriage, but we were still very deep in grief). Those eps wrenched at me more than I could possible explain, I was a blubbering, sobbing mess.
I agree that it is important that it is not a silent issue, because it is very real. Though I am not sure that putting it on popular TV is the way to do it. We connect strongly with characters we see on TV and it can be quite traumatic to ‘relive’ something as horrific as this when watching something that is meant to entertain.
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I LOVE Offspring, so well written, witty and funny…Is the only show on tv I can’t bare to miss. Last time I was this addicted to a show would have been Secret Life of Us.
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It absolutely pains me to say this after reading so many sad but lovely posts about baby loss.
I’m currently 18 weeks pregnant and suffering severe sciatic back pain. As I was lying in a hospital bed last week I looked at my mum and asked, is it wrong to wish I wasn’t pregnant. She said to me, try and tell me that when you’re holding your new baby in your arms for the first time.
I know this is terribly selfish, as I have a fantastic partner and besides my severe back pain life is ok.
Not being able to fo things like not being able to shower myself, walk anymore than 20 steps without pain and having the dr say it’s highly likely this will happen again in the pregnancy is just getting to me.
I am truely sorry to all those that have lost a little one.
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Dear Sara,
I totally get where you are and it is normal. I experienced what you are currently experiencing and the pain does overshadow so much. Be kind to yourself and don’t expect your pregnancy will be like everyone else’s. For me the pain started at 16 weeks and didn’t stop until way after the birth. Believe it or not this was the making of me. I felt that somehow it was my preparation for motherhood – fucking scary but nevertheless life affirming! Giving into the pain was not an option.
Try to set yourself little joys – I found a pregnancy pilates class where I spent most of the time laughing and not doing much pilates. I also got a disabled permit, drove to the shopping centre and hired one of the old lady scooters – what a laugh – once took out an entire Easter display at DJ’s with my bad driving! The upside was they were never going to yell at a pregnant cripple!!
Good luck and remember that your Mum is right – the little bundle at the end is worth every bit of pain you will endure and the joy will overshadow that pain 10-fold.
Ruth x
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As of late, one of the best things on TV has been the series “Boardwalk Empire” over on SHOWCASE. Brilliant script, superb acting, amazing storyline. Have to wait until November for Series Two.
“Downton Abbey” is also great viewing. Way too many commercials, though. Look forward to its release on DVD so to be able to enjoy it as the producers had wanted it to be seen.
The new series of “Upstairs, Downstairs” on UKTV is worth catching. I never saw the original when it was screened. There’s something about the 1920′s/1930′s that truly fascinates me.
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100% agree – they are all great shows…
Hang on…
OMG – Bradley and I agree on something!
Rick…turn off the servers now before one of us changes our mind…
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Offspring is my favourite show! It’s well written, well acted and now it’s on 2 nights a week, love it!
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Love Offspring. Asher Keddie is brilliant. I feel particularly connected to Offspring as it will always remind me of when my daughter was only a few months old. I would go to be early and watch an episode on my phone, sneak an hour sleep then be up to feed her overnight. Such a special time, looking back on it now. My husband and I were both in tears last night. Just the thought of experiencing that is unbearable and I feel deeply for those who have.
Love My Way was the most heart wrenching TV show ever. THAT episode…I am crying now just thinking about it…powerful stuff.
Marley and Me, wow did I cry through that one!! Yes, I have a dog. Yes, he is a labrador. No, I don’t want him to ever die….
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I 100% agree about Love My Way! Best Australian show of all time. I often find myself thinking about THAT episode too. Everyone should watch it on DVD if you haven’t seen it before. Asher Keddie’s in it too.
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isn’t it funny, everyone who has watched love my way instantly knows what episode you are referring to. I have never cried harder at any tv show or movie than i do every single time i watch THAT episode. extremely moving television.
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Agreed. Offspring (and the occasional episode of Masterchef) is the ONLY TV show I make an effort to watch on commercial Australian TV. Hopefully Channel 10 continues to support it and other shows like it.
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I have just started watching Offspring and I am really starting to love it. Asher Keddie is great.
I was also very proud watching Alison Bell play the part of the mother whose baby died on the episode this week – I went to school with Alison and she always wanted to be an actress and to see her living that dream is inspiring.
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i really like offspring and have been wachting it regularly , good episode last night… one thing that is annoying me a bit is that does nina have to always fall for the new doctor?
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Love Offspring, but agree that Love my Way is one of the best series I have watched yet….a shame that good shows like these have to end and aren’t supported by free to air tv. If you havent seen it I recommend renting it out, great viewing!
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I’ve never watched Offspring!! I clearly should….
The TV series that consistently amazed, stimulated and blew me away for all five of its seasons was The Wire (HBO). Just brilliant, brilliant story telling- and a huge message about drugs and politics and policing and community- and everything really. It’s a big claim but I’m going to say it reinvented TV. Watch it on DVD! (And put the subtitles on. Those Baw’more accents are bloody hard work.)
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I am in the middle of studying for exams and studied so hard all yesterday so I could sit down and watch Offspring in peace. It is the only show I watch every week on TV at the moment. Every cast member is brilliant and it is so well written.
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Offspring is the only show I watch on free to air.
I love it to death, but I hate how many ads are in it! It’s as if Channel Ten are scared of someone getting into a story line…
I balled my eyes out last night, but that’s probably because I’m currenly 32 weeks pregnant, and that could have been me.
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Absolutely love Offspring, by far the best show on television at the moment – the storylines and characters are very real and I can so relate to Nina and her constant internal chatter that she has going on in her head. I’m going through IVF so I can also relate to Billie’s experiences (to some extent atleast). My husband who has previously labelled Offspring as “my girlie show” sat through the whole episode last night and I dare say he’ll be watching part 2 with me on Wednesday night. It’s a well written drama mixed with enough humour to keep it entertaining and not too intense. (good for a Monday night).
As for intensity, Love My Way is by far the best drama series I’ve ever seen. I am still in shock that we never got past season 3 (or 4?). I would watch an episode of Love My Way and it would linger on my mind for days afterwards.
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I’m going to go against the grain here and say that I wasn’t that impressed. I like Offspring, I love Billie, but this didn’t move me. I was expecting to absolutely lose my shit when they said she’d been in a car accident (I lost my dear friend when she was late in pregnancy in a car accident) but I just didn’t feel there was enough character development around it. It was just drama, not story. Or it was just Nina’s story, not the story of a lost baby.
All the same I’m glad to see this on mainstream TV, given how often this happens it should be represented. I’d love to see a storyline that deals not just with the dramatics but the next part. My mother lost two children twenty years ago and spent time in a mental home just recently to deal with these losses.
Maybe I steeled my nerves about it too, since Mia posted on facebook about this so I was warned (I’m not on EST).
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Love My Way – one of the last episodes of the first series affects me like nothing else. I’m 22, I don’t have children but just the thought of losing a child I might one day have is enough to start a sobbing fit.
If you are a fan of Asher Keddie ‘Love My Way’ is a must see. So raw and real. It is amazing.
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I could not agree more! Love My Way is still my all time favourite show and the first season broke my heart but taught me a lot.
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That episode still haunts me, Claudia Karvan was fantastic!
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I get chills just thinking about Love My Way… I have never been so blown away as watching THAT episode (won’t say more in case it spoils it for anyone who hasn’t seen it!)
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I remember visiting family in Sydney and went to Centennial Park. It suddenly dawned on me where I was and started to panic until I held my daughter’s hand. Such an amazing episode with such strong emotions. Brilliant series.
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I watched THAT episode just over four years ago now when I was pregnant with my first child. It affected me so deeply that I think I cried for a week.
Reading all these posts about THAT episode has me emotional about it all over again. I can’t even begin to imagine the grief parents must endure when they lose a child. My heart goes out to each and every one of you.
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I do love Offspring – it’s one of the few shows I watch on a regular basis. Like many other women I lost a baby relatively late in pregnancy. I must say, though, while the loss of the baby was handled so beautifully, I couldn’t help but cringe when Nina excitedly hugged her sister, ‘you’re having a baby’. Perhaps it’s my own issue but I just thought – Nope, she’s pregnant. There’s an enormous journey to go through before she has a baby. She’s pregnant. And that’s a lot to celebrate.
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You’re so right, Dulcie. I never say “I’m having a baby” any more. Learnt the hard way there. I mean yes, I still had a baby, but I had to leave her in the hospital then bury her less than a week later.
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I’m so sorry for your devastating loss, mamaofhope. It’s heartbreaking, isn’t it? A huge element of anxiety, and horridly confronting realism, exists in each subsequent pregnancy. I’m due in 2 weeks time (with my second… or is it my third?) and have only just started to prepare clothes, cot. There’s always the lingering sense that a baby may not come home with us.
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Thanks, dulcie. I always say my third. Because that’s the truth of the matter. I don’t care if that makes others uncomfortable. I have been pregnant three times and in 10 weeks, I will give birth for a third time. Just have to hope for that outcome we all assume we’re going to get. I do miss the innocence and naivety of my first pregnancy though.
All the best to you for two weeks. Oh and I feel much better now having done NOTHING to prepare for this next baby of ours. I figure that stuff will all sort itself out in time!
xo
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It does come together, quite easily, I promise – there’s not long to agonise over little decisions.Thanks for the best wishes…I’m crossing my fingers and toes for us all xxx
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I watched on the early episodes with my inlaws that had so much sex in it… couldn’t bring myself to watch it again.
The movie “Riding in Cars with Boys” with Drew Barrymore affected me tremendously when I first saw it. Cried the whole way through, seemed to resonate with me. Watched it again and nada, zip,nothing, not a tear. So not sure what happened the first time around
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Plot question? Sorry missed a couple of episodes. Didn’t Patrick come into the hospital with his wife and Nina was concerned that there might be some domestic violence? Or have I got this confused with another character.
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no not confused…..but it turned out to be his sister, not his wife
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The character ending up being his sister not his wife. His sister was getting beat up by her husband.
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Offspring made me cry twice last night; when Nina told the bereaved woman she wasn’t able to save her baby, and again when Nina told Billie the great news that she’s pregnant.
It’s good to be able to cry for sad things as well as happy – especially all in one episode!
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Me too, a very moving show, with both fantastic and very sad news.
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Grey’s Anatomy covers baby loss with Christina and Meredith – plus they show Meredith’s difficulty in conceiving again.
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Show that moved me? The Wire, absolutely. In particular season 4.
I only came to it last year, but this TV was just incredible.
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Love my way is definitely the best Australian drama of all time which Asher Keddie is absolutely brilliant in as the neurotic Jules as to is Claudia Karvan who co produced and created it. My most favourite Australian tv series and one of my all time favourites.
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Oh, really? I was so keen to see that when I first heard about it but I don’t do pay TV.
After your reminder and glowing recommendation though, I have just ordered the first season!
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I agree. Love My Way moved me like no other tv series.
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I just watched the first season of Love My Way last week.
What a brilliant show!
And in THAT episode, I cried so much I had to call my mum!
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Sorry to the lovers but I’m against the majority on this one – Nothing special about this show (like most other TV shows on Australian TV).. You can clearly see there are good actors & they’re more than likely great people too. I just think this is another average one for me.
I think the only thing I did like is seeing all the spots in Melbourne and missing living there so much!
Not being a troll or to upset anyone especially since alot of people here today have shared their personal experiences based on last nights topic- but focussing on the actual show it’s no different to any other Australian or medical based show that has been on TV – and no I’m not one to palm something off without trying it first either.
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I know it’s long gone from our tv screens, but I just finished watching sex and the city on DVD (I was too young to watch it when it ran on tv) – but it did such a wonderful job of portraying the wonderful value of female friendships that I’ll be forever grateful for the show and the real girls in my life
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