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The average Australian woman is around a size 16.

But you wouldn’t know that if you walked into most fashion stores. Overwhelmingly, the shops are filled with Barbie-shaped mannequins and racks of clothes that seem to stop at size 12.

But a new report has found all those clothes targeted only to women size 8-14 are doing retailers no favours. The Choice Consumer report suggests retailers are missing out on profits because they only sell clothes that fit a limited number of women – and by doing so they’re ignoring larger sizes and a larger market.

The demand is there, but the sizes are not.

News.com.au reports:

Choice says an increasing number of females say they’re forced to shop online or at chain stores because they can’t fit the stylish clothes sold in shopping malls or high street stores.

Retailers who say they are struggling should consider expanding their range to fit the growing number of women who wear size 16 and above, Choice spokeswoman Ingrid Just says.

“What we’re essentially identifying is that there is a whole market out there that many designers and retailers aren’t necessarily tapping into,” Ms Just said.

“Consumers are finding themselves quite frustrated by not being able to buy clothes that suit their bodies.”

The report also found that women’s fashion ranges come “crashing to a halt” at size 14 and that where larger items are available, they’re coming at a price – sometimes retailing for double the amount of similar items in smaller sizes.

Could these be the same retailers who are crying poor because everyone’s shopping with online stores in the UK and the US?

If so, why aren’t designers and retailers tapping into the MAJORITY of the market and making a profit? Anyone?

Choice suggests that some retailers shun plus sizes because they only want their brands associated with slim people. Call it fashion snobbery. In the same way the vast majority of fashion retailers advertise their brands using extremely tall, size 8 (Photoshopped) models, this same principle is echoed by the racks in-store; the labels are controlling who wears their clothes by excluding plus-sizes from their range.

Plus-size fashion designer Megan Moir Pardy said she started her fashion label, Damn You Alexis, because of the lack of labels catering to plus sizes.

She said there’s three reasons Australian labels are ignoring plus size women.

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Megan Moir Pardy

1. The cost and fear of changing patterns to suit a curvier figure. The grading between sizes 6 and 12 is quite uniform but when you get up to sizes 16 to 24 women put on weight in vastly different ways and the pattern needs to be adjusted to make the garment work.

2. The stigma attached to a plus size clothing. The cooler, edgier labels have a reputation that the customer wants to buy into. Plus sizes aren’t part of that.

3. They simply don’t think plus size women want fashionable clothes. There is a mentality that if you really wanted to wear fashion, you would lose weight.

And she said the Choice’s spokeswoman was voicing an opinion “plus women have been shouting about for years! There is a huge market out there for labels willing to embrace it. In a challenged retail market I’m really surprised more Australian labels aren’t increasing their size range to include plus.”

And maybe if they did they’d be making (plus) money.

Tara Lynn and Crystal Renn on the cover of The Times magazine (Photoshopped image)

What’s been your experience with finding clothes you like in sizes that fit you?

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  1. Amy

    I completely understand that there might be extra costs associated with changing patterns to suit larger sizes, different machinery, extra material etc as outlined below. But here’s the thing. Any new business venture requires financial investment. And this is something there is a clear market for. So to all those people saying it doesn’t make sense for brands to make larger sizes or establish plus sized ranges, I think it makes perfect business sense. It’s just surprising more people aren’t capitalising on it.

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  2. Sam

    Its not only that’s plus sized people have issues with clothes, most shopping centers don’t even cater for us. Westfield Doncaster is a very clear shopping centre that doesn’t cater. Not only can you not just dress regularly you need go in nice attire or people look at you and judge you. It drives me nuts.

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    • Anonymous

      Nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance Sam.

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  3. Lindy

    I very much agree with this article and feel so strongly on this matter, being on the wrong side of size 14 and all. Since adolescence I have always hovered between a size 14 – 18. I struggle with my weight. Always have, always will. But I believe that as a woman I have the right to feel beautiful, fashionable and confident. Yes, I am working on getting my weight down at present. It won’t happen over night. SO in the mean time, I have events on where I would like to dress fashionably and for my AGE. I believe that I have the right to wear nice clothes; that means: styles, fabrics, prints, cuts, brands etc. And I acknowledge that it is also a problem for the more petite amongst us too. But being ‘bigger’ is much more socially unacceptable than being ‘smaller’ than the perceived ideal size. I am just as adequate a woman as any other smaller woman, im no less important because of my height/shape/weight.

    What shits me the most is this attitude of ‘ooooh we have to be careful that we are not encouraging obesity’ – COME ON! No one thinks along the lines of ‘oh look this lovely cocktail dress is available in an 8 – 18, I think im gonna strive for the 18!’. NOONE THINKS THAT WAY! How about, let’s ban all the plus sized clothes and let the fatties go naked until they are small enough to fit into the average dress size? I think not.

    Being bigger can be uncomfortable, embarrassing and unhealthy. But some people can be bigger naturally and be healthy and happy. Please fashion retailers, accept that people come in all shapes and sizes; slim, chubby, tall, short busty, flat chested etc and a combination of these. Expecting everyone to be tall and skinny and modelesque is unrealistic. Larger people have a right not to be limited to truck tarps and tents. Why should we have to wear only Big W and Target clothes as some have suggested? Why can’t we wear Sass & Bide, Portmans, Sportsgirl or Ralph Lauren if we feel so? I am a 25 year old woman with a disposable income and let me tell you if a lot of these shops made their clothes a tad bigger, I would buy up, instead of having to be happy with their accessories and handbags. I say it’s mostly fashion snobbery. Their loss.

    Let me clarify that I am not endorsing obesity (or anorexia or anything else) EXCEPT acceptance and fashion equality. Being larger is something I hate and battle with constantly. But I and the other ‘plus sized’ people out there still deserve to be stylish and have a choice from a wide variety of fashion retailers, whether we are in the transitional stages or if we are comfortable in our own skin.

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    • Sloane

      Hey, Just remember that you don’t have to give anybody excuses for your weight. You shouldn’t have to validate your experiences by saying, “I AM trying to lose weight!” to make sure that people respect you. :) We do deserve to feel beautiful, and trolls who rag on fat people (fat shouldn’t be a bad word, it’s empowering) need to realize we’re not put on this earth for them, nor merely as what kind of sexual partners we would make for them. It all comes down to that for them at the end, because we’re….gross? I don’t know. The thing is that people get angry because we “take up too much space” and that’s B.S. I’m going to take up my space, I’m going to be proud of it. People are looking at me and judging me, using my visibility against me. Well, if they’re going to look then I’m going to let them know I’m looking back. I’m visible, I’m beautiful, I’m fat. So WHAT?! AND?! You don’t need to lose weight to be special.

      On a personal note, I would suggest that maybe you go on tumblr and look into fat/body empowerment blogs. It’s really helped me and the way I look at myself. You’ll find that there’s nothing wrong with the person you are. :)

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    • Anonymous

      I feel sad for you.

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    • Cee

      Totally agree with you.

      Also, you can get plus size Ralph Lauren online :)

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    • Siggy

      If you like designer stuff many of the US department stores stock labels eg Donna Karan, Ralph Lauren etc and the shipping is quite reasonable to Australia especially if you catch their sales which are the opposite season to us!

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  4. Anonymous

    Most stores these days go up to a 16, if not larger, even if that’s not what the label says.

    I fit into a size 8-10 (sometimes even a 6) or a small at all the major fashion retailers (Witchery, Cotton On, Cue, Zara, Forever New, Country Road and so on). I am absolutely not a size 8 or 10. According to my measurements, I should be wearing a 12, and even that should be quite a tight fit. A decade ago I was a 12-14 at all the shops. I’ve actually gained a little weight since, but according to the labels on my clothes, I’ve dropped two dress sizes. Retailers are making larger clothes, but instead of adding sizes they’ve just made the sizes they already use much larger.

    Looks like the average dress size has gone up again. I remember when it used to be size 10, which makes me feel old.

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    • Anonymous

      What a crushing comment for me! But come to think of it, I don’t deny it.

      Here I was thinking i’ve only gone up 1-2 dress sizes over my 10year 10kilo weight gain, when in fact it’s probably more like 2-3!!! hahaha… I was totally in denial not to notice that…

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    • hms

      Really? I’ve found its the opposite. I haven’t changed size – I measure myself rather than jump on the scales – and yet I’ve gone up a size in the summer clothes I’ve been trying on.

      Some consistency would be good for all of us!

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  5. Jess

    It is very hard to get stylish well-made plus size clothes in Australia. Your choices are either super-casual or nightclubbing type clothes (ie City Chic).

    I am a size 16 and I buy nearly all of my clothes online. It really annoys me that brands I would actually like to wear (David Lawrence, Country Road, Veronika Maine), their size 16s are cut like a 14 and so I don’t fit into them.

    I’ve given up now and buy virtually nothing from stores in Australia. I tried to buy knee high boots because I wanted to spend the $250+ in Oz but I went to about fifteen different stores and had the demoralising experience of not being able to find a single pair to zip up over my calves so I just gave up and bought a pair from DUO boots.

    If I could find a plus size store with clothes like Morrison or Cue, I’d spend so much money there.

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    • Anonymous

      What about ankle boots if you can’t zip up knee highs?

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      • Mel

        I think the point is that plus size women want to be able to wear all the same fashions as straight size women including awesome riding boots! I myself have a huge frame (literally big bones, big hands, big feet) and couldn’t find anything to fit my calves even as a size 12.

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    • Siggy

      HI Jess, do you know Bennets Boots and Boots for Broads? They are both Aussie businesses who do a wide calf boot. Great quality. If you sign up for emails you can get a heads up on their sales too.

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    • inkabinka

      I also love boots and have always wanted knee high’s.
      So I bit the bullet and bought some gorgeous ones from Duo. Unfortunately they still do not zip up- seems even my ankles are too fat for boots.
      So they languish in my wardrobe….. Cost a bomb and I hope to fit them one day :( I just have much wider legs than any wideboot made

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    • JoJo

      Jess,
      I am a size 12-14 and I shop at Morrison. My clothes range from XS to L in their range, so don’t just assume they won’t fit you. I suggest you give them a try- and their staff generally know what the larger and smaller items are in their range.

      (FYI: I don’t work for Morrison, but have worn their clothes for years)

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      • Jess

        Thanks JoJo! I have been eyeing off a wrap jacket on their online site but am unsure whether the L would fit. I am smaller on top so maybe I will go to Myers and give it a try.

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    • Cate

      Same, I also buy all my clothing online including my duo boots!

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  6. Kelly

    How apt! I am on holiday in Bridbane with some cash to burn. Went shopping in Queen street and was so dissappointed in the sizing. I made a comment to my Gran that women in the city musn’t be any larger than a size 12 even though i saw plenty of size 14/16 ladies walking around. So my excitement of going shopping in the city was quickly squashed.

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  7. Iamnotacarrot

    Last year i was trying on clothes in Espirit. The shorts that fit me were a size 6 and the shirt that fit was a 14. I swear to you all I am not a carrot, but what the …..?

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  8. Amandarose

    I would love a shop who divided clothes into body types. For example I am the “look like I am pregnant but I am not” type body and certain clothes help hide my tummy better the. Others. I am a bit clueless so maniquins of my body type showing how good they disguise the pot belly would be a seller for me.
    they could have a petite section, a tall section, a big bum section. Big boob section etc.

    people want to buy clothes that make them feel good and I think it would help.

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    • Cee

      That’s a great idea!

      Evans – a uk plus sized shop is sort of implementing this

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    • JoJo

      Try Birds Nest online.
      This Australian website does this and even if you don’t buy from them, you can get great ideas about fully styled outfits by body type so you know what to look for in the shops.

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    • UCP

      http://www.igigi.com do this, they have a search your body type function… works well.

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  9. redqueen

    I’ll be on a diet from Monday as I am sooo tired of only finding leggings and horizontal striped tops and I’m a size 16 right now.

    It’s either size zero or tents it seems.

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  10. Anonymous

    So none of you have ever made your own clothes, I’m guessing?

    As mentioned in the article, when you size-up a pattern, you’re not just making it bigger all over. Certain measurements stay more or less the same, while others don’t – there are a lot of considerations especially to do with bust, shoulders and arm holes, and it can be very difficult to achieve the same sort of fit in a size 26 that you could get in a size 10. This is just the reality of it.

    Most industrial garment making processes use machines and templates that cater for a specific size range. Say you have all the machines to make 8-14 – making a 16 means that you have to buy all new equipment and your pattern needs to be redesigned. These are the reasons why plus size ranges from established brands are so much more expensive – it’s not just a little bit of extra material, it’s a total redesign, new machinery and another production run. It’s expensive for brands so it’s expensive for consumers, and for labels who are already successful within their size range, it’s bad business sense.

    It sucks, but that’s the way it is.

    But on the other hand, it drives me nuts hearing plus size girls whining about how nothing in the shops fits them. There is a wealth of fatshion blogs and resources, and how could anybody be unhappy with ASOS Curve? I’m size 10 but bought one of the pleated chiffon midi skirts and altered the waist band, and it’s gorgeous and such good quality.

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    • ashamasha

      so we should suck it up and forget about being able to shop in an actual shop, and just shop online?

      Would you be happy with that? thought not

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      • Anonymous

        If you are going to get better quality clothes at lower prices that are actually stylish and come in sizes that fit you, I don’t see why it’s such a big deal. I am a standard size and I buy all my clothes online, because the majority of Australia chain stores sell rubbish.

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      • Siggy

        Shopping online is great!

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        • ashamasha

          my point is not about whether online shopping is great or not, it obviously is, but come with its own drawbacks (shipping costs – if they’ll ship at all, no ability to try on before buying, time factors etc.)

          My point is about being told I’m ‘whining’, and to basically be happy with giving up a very basic ability to go out in public with all the other people, and be catered to, when my size seems to be ‘average’.

          To give up, and stay home, out of sight, and have no basic expectation of being able to find decent clothes in a physical shop.

          Again, I ask you, would YOU be happy with that?

          thought not.

          Why should I be?

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          • Siggy

            Since I’ve started shopping online I feel a wonderful freedom. Really shopping centres are rather grim places to hang out. I don’t think you’re whining, but I think voting with your feet is a very effective strategy and the world’s your oyster! Parcels are lovely too. My teenage kids are ‘normal’ sized and they like to buy online too. More choice and distinctive garments.

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        • JosieY

          Just so you know, I am a small size 12 but I can’t buy stuff online because it never fits me 10f bust. I would love to buy online/ from overseas etc but whenever I’ve tried, even measuring myself etc, it has always been an expensive exercise in returning postage. So no, online is not always an option.

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    • Mel

      I don’t buy the “is what it is” statement. Even if you started from scratch with new equipment, you don’t see all of the start-up straight size brands with shocking prices. You may even have to sell near to at-cost while people learn your brand before the demand increases enough to make those prices viable. It’s trying to match the 200% markup the get out of their straight-size clothing that makes plus size clothing more expensive. Surely a 100% markup would suffice for now.

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    • UCP

      Of course a size 10 would be telling plus size people they are whining they cant find clothes… How about you take a plus size girl shopping with you some time…
      I cant see how much more money they have to fork our for a machine to make a larger size with all the money the are making having the clothes produced in Bangladesh, China, and Taiwan…
      And really… how many people make their own clothes? Thats a rediculous statement.
      Get real.

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      • Anonymous

        Haha! I make my own clothes. Because although I am a size 10 and, according to you, should just shut up – I have an average sized chest, a small waist and chunky thighs, am short-waisted but have longer than average legs – so, clothes don’t fit me either! Shopping is a pain no matter what size you are because we are all different shapes. If beautiful clothes are available online, I don’t understand why people feel their energy is better spent going to the mall and moaning about it..

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        • Faybian

          I don’t know about industrial machines, but our domestic machines can make clothes that fit my kids, myself (10-12) and my mum (18). Draft patterns come in different sizes, so yes you can tailor make clothes. If you can do it at home, why not make different sizes commercially?

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      • Deb

        It’s really not about one size discriminating against another. I’m at the other end of the size spectrum and have much the same problems.

        Most of what is sold in the mainstream shops is designed for a limited range of sizes and if you’re a bit taller, bit shorter, bit bigger, smaller or have bigger hips, chest or whatever than another part of you, then buying clothes is difficult.

        I’m a size 6 and really short and my waist is the wrong size for my hips. Even petite sized clothes need taking up and most stuff doesn’t come in a 6 anyway. So I hate clothes shopping too and I sew stuff and shop online as a result. The only thing I like shopping for is shoes and handbags.

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  11. Expensive

    So after reading this, I went to check out the Damn You Alexis range…

    Of course, even a plain pair of leggings is $59! A dress on that site is about $200.

    Why does plus sized stuff have to be so expensive? I understand a bit more for a bit more fabric but the stuff on Damn You Alexis as an example, is just over the top for a normal person.

    Sigh.

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    • ashamasha

      there’s also bugger all in their range! 5 dresses, a coat, a pair of shorts and a pair of leggings? WTH?

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    • Isabella Durante

      I am size 8-10 and leggings cost me 59 – 100 as well – good quality ones that is. If I don’t want to spend so much I go to target and get a pair for 30 and know that the colour (black) will fade quickly…. just saying that quality costs more.

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  12. Anonymous

    Good that mamamia is posting such articles and recognising that there is a need within the community but am wondering if it’s an issue the mamamia team can relate to when I look at your team photos?

    Not trying to being provocative just wondering…

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    • Bird

      I am sure they understand the problem that plus sized women face even if they don’t face it themselves.

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      • Natalia

        Hi Anonymous. I don’t really see how our team photos are relevant? Just as Bird said, we can still understand – and want to speak out about – the problems that plus sized women face. It’s just like how I’m straight but can understand the problems gay people face. Or how I’m short but can still understand the problems tall people face when trying to fit into tiny seats on airplanes :)

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        • Siggy

          Yes especially as the original article was really about how reckless retailers are in abandoning a whole market! A great point!

          A follow up article or two obviously will flow from this great discussion.

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  13. Anonymous

    okay… so when you say size 16… do you mean size 16 as per measurements… or the ‘generous’ variety in stores…
    by measurements i’m a size 10… but i don’t remember the last time i bought as size 10… and i like pretty loose fitting clothes
    so does that mean that by the measurements on the size guide an average aust woman is an 18? can it be?

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      Hey Anonymous,
      Sizing in Australia is difficult because there is no standardised sizing. So a size 16 in one store is going to be different to size 16 in another.
      I asked Megan about the definition of plus size and she said it was a size 16 and above. But what’s interesting is that plus size model is everything from size 10 up…
      Sorry we can’t be more specific.

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      • Dana

        Perhaps the first step to solving this problem is to introduce a standard Australian sizing system? Certainly would help when it comes to online shopping!

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        • Shannon

          That makes it tricky, though, because some people aren’t a standard size.

          I’m (generally) a size 6, sometimes an 8 – some stores a size 6 is much too big, others too small. What if the standard size 6 became the bigger one? Nothing would ever fit me. Or if they picked the smaller one, but the size 8 were too big…I’d be stuck between the two and again, nothing would fit.

          At least now, people can shop around for somewhere that does *their* size, even if it has a different label and a different cut in a few different stores. I’d rather have to shop around, and occasionally find the perfect fit, than have standard sizes so that no matter where I go, nothing fits.

          Retailers putting up their measurements, though, would be great. If they say their size X is measurements A, B and C then you can buy safely provided you know your measurements.

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  14. Jaytee

    Can anyone recommend a good plus sized maternity shop?
    Early days for me, I only found out I was pregnant last week… But i’m already wondering how i’m going to find clothes to fit without looking like I’m wearing a tent.

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    • Cath @ Bump, Baby & Beyond

      Hi Jaytee,

      We have work and yoga pants in 6 to size 24 and jeans in 6 – 30, but we really struggle to source anything bigger than an 18-20 in the maternity tops… so frustrating! I am a size 18-20 myself, so I know know hard it is. Our site is bumpbabyandbeyond.com.au

      There is a site that does exclusively plus sized maternity, called plusmaternity.com.au – they do size 18-28 :)

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    • Juzzie

      I was a size 18 when my baby bump really started showing, and I got all of my maternity clothes from US website OLD NAVY. Cheap and cheerful and the shipping cost wasn’t too bad either.

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    • inkabinka

      http://www.nextdirect.com
      They go up to a UK22 which is an AU20 BUT I have found their sizing to be large- and I need a size or two smaller.
      Their pricing is fantabulous! To get Maternity swimmers in plus sizes here would cost me $100+
      at Next- $48!
      Pair of 3/4 length, overbump legging= $17!
      Shipping is FREE and it is sent via express courier (ordered swimmers on Thursday afternoon they arrived Monday morning 7am!)
      No I don’t work for them, but oh my gosh I am in love with them!

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    • Anna

      Check out woman within, also Old Navy as others have mentioned, destination maternity http://www.destinationmaternity.com/plushome.asp. Lane Bryant

      Best of luck!

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  15. EmmDee

    Altough I’d prefer not to, I have to shop online to get my sizes in decent clothing.

    I also have terrible trouble finding winter boots due to my foot to calf ratio (sadly there is such a thing) so was very pleased to hear of the Duo Boots & Boots For Broads websites.

    I’ve not yet sampled their wares but have colleagues & friends who swear by them… So, as Tony Barber used to say, “Let’s go shopping!”

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  16. EmmDee

    Altough I’d prefer not to, I have to shop online to get my sizes in decent clothing.

    I also have terrible trouble finding winter boots due to my foot to calf ratio (sadly there is such a thing) so was very pleased to hear of the Duo Boots (http://www.duoboots.com/) & Boots For Broads (http://www.bootsforbroads.com/) websites.

    I’ve not yet sampled their wares but have colleagues & friends who swear by them… So, as Tony Barber used to say, “Let’s go shopping!”

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  17. Sharon

    I wear size 18 – 22 (depends on the store) and I am cello-shaped. The stores don’t stock fashionable clothes which fit women with boobs and bums so I’ve started to make my own clothes again and I am so happy that I have :) – clothes which fit are a delight to wear :)

    It’s not only fashion which is hard to find above size 14 – good shapewear is also hard to find – good girdles used to be the secret weapon of ladies of a certain size, but don’t go near the modern version of shapewear available in department stores if you’re above size 16!

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    • Melsie

      I really need to learn how to sew!

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    • FlyByNight

      I love your description of “cello-shaped” and plan to steal it! Cellos are awesome.

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      • Sharon

        I can’t take the credit – it’s Trinny and Susannah’s term – but it’s perfect :)

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  18. Lauren

    Try Rudies Sun Wear for long sleeve rash vests, I was able to buy size 20. As a larger lady, it’s difficult to find my size, and it was great not to get burnt at the beach over summer.

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  19. anon

    Before the health police come on and berate those of us who are overweight for contributing to the the obesity epidemic and putting a strain on the health system etc, I’d just like to mention that those of us who are overweight are acutely aware of it, but ‘just losing weight’ is not simple. For me, needing to lose at least 20kg, it is going to take good diet, exercise, and counselling to overcome the reasons that I am overweight to start with. Most people who do ‘just lose some weight’ generally put it back on again because the reasons for their weight problem are not adequately addressed.

    Right, now that is out of the way. I CANNOT find clothes that fit me well. I’m an apple shape (even more so after growing two 4kg babies) and a size 16. I am attempting to lose weight, but it is a SLOW process, and I want to look/feel good about what I am wearing NOW, not in 12 months time. The only time I feel remotely stylish is when I’m pregnant, as maternity clothes are designed for big tummies!

    People spend money on maternity clothing so that they look good for the time they are that shape. While I do not intend to be overweight forever, the fact that nothing fits me drives me back to emotional over eating after each shopping trip. I just want nice clothes that are easy to find, affordable and flattering. The carry on effect if I look good, is, that I will feel good and consequently want to look after myself. It’s a vicious cycle that could easily be a positive one.

    Right, waffly rant over. Off to spend money on my daughters: as a baby and toddler, they look great in anything.

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    • Melsie

      Hey Anon, I do the same as you – spend money on my toddler & baby, they’re so better dressed than I ever have been! I agree that being able to find clothes that make you feel decent is definitely a motivator while you’re trying to get fitter too.

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      • Melsie

        I meant – clothes that fit you now & make you feel good – I have inarticulate baby brain

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    • Anonymous

      the attitude of ‘i want to look good now’ is a really emotionally healthy place from which to begin to lose weight. well done!

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  20. Ree2

    The answer here is the same as the one that relates to TV shows: it is because the buying power is with girls aged between 12 to 16 and generally they are size 8 to 12.

    No-one spends as much money on stuff – any stuff – as young girls and the retailers know this.

    I know that you are going to say that you spend a lot of money on one expensive item, but young girls spend a whole lot of money on many items and they are easily influenced by passing fads. Anyone else out there with a teenager going to tell me I am wrong?

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    • Anonymous

      oh god that is so depressing… i similarly heard somewhere that hollywood movies are produced basically with a male teenage demographic as the target maket…
      why are these kids given so much money to spend?

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      • tallicachild

        It’s not even that they’re given heaps of money to spend. Most teenagers have part time jobs and earn all their money. Even if they’re only earning $60 a week, that’s $60 they don’t have to spend on bills and can spend it on anything they want, because they’re TEENAGERS and still live at home.
        It only lasts 2-3 years so who cares :) they’ll soon work out their spending habits can’t last when they have actual expenses to factor in. I think it’s a pretty important life lesson for them.

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    • FlyByNight

      And if you’re a larger size teenager? Still can’t buy anything and simply learn much much earlier that your size is apparently unacceptable. :/

      I appreciate your point, but I still think retailers are missing huge opportunities.

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  21. Frangipani

    Forget normal clothing, if you want to have extreme difficulty finding plus sized clothing – try looking for outdoor adventure type stuff for bushwalking or hiking or ski clothes. The largest size stocked in Australia seems to be a 16 which fits like a 14. Then mens sizes go larger but aren’t cut to fit women and so look terrible.

    In normal plus sized clothing, I get most of my clothes from Myer and DJ’s, but there is usually only a handful of the styles available there as the plus sized brands have on their website or in their catalogue. I often see things I like and then can’t try them on because they are not in a shop within 100 kms of where I live. Occasionally I risk it and buy something online but usually that means I don’t buy anything at all.

    We need some of those American plus-sized clothing stores to open up shops here in Australia and fill this gaping hole in the market.

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    • Shelly in PNG

      Oh, I hear you! I live in PNG and had a one day stop over in cairns before heading to Japan in January. I ended up with a pair of men’s ski pants. Didn’t make me feel sexy…

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  22. starsky

    I would like that Vogue Belle Vere photo (number 4) so much more if the model didn’t have her legs spread open. Or am I just being a prude?

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  23. anon

    So I work at Best and Less and they have a WOMAN range which is the plus sized women range from 16 – 26 and then Impulse which stock sizes from 8 – 14. The company is going ‘fashionable’ and there are some cute outfits in both brands. But the thing which really annoys me is that the jackets and tops in both brands are different prices by $10. So the exact same top or Jacket in the Impulse section is cheaper than the the top with the WOMAN brand. This makes me upset knowing that curvier women have to spend extra money for the exact same pieces of clothing in the Impulse range.

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    • Rach

      One way to look at it is this…if you made your own clothes, you would pay more for the materials to make it if you were plus sized.

      If I were a smaller size (say, 8 ) and was paying the same price for the same piece of clothing as someone who was a size 26, I’d want to know why as there are less costs involved in making something that might be less than half the size.

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      • anon

        As for the negligible difference between a 14 and a 16 then?

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        • Rach

          Unless they are going to stagger the price on every single size, they will draw a line in the sand somewhere.

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      • Kath B

        I agree Rach, It’s this reason that I’m happy to pay *a bit* more for plus size clothes – and I’d rather pay a bit more than not have my size stocked at all!

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    • lucy

      it is an uncomfortable subject and i think the reason why most people dont make larger sizes. Because it is the excess fabric which is an additional cost but it is also all the extra work. every size after 14 (maybe 16?) needs a completely re fabricated pattern. From size 6-14(16) all you do is increase the seams by a set amount but once you hit the larger sizes every pattern needs to be done from scratch with new measurments. This is actually a lot more work and therefore expenses for a business.

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      • Lulu

        “From size 6-14(16) all you do is increase the seams by a set amount ”

        Which is why the women who are in the 6 to 14 range will often find that the clothes don’t fit them particularly well either. There is shape variation in the small/medium size women as well, but the clothes don’t cater for it.

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  24. Kath B

    As a plus size woman, it is so disheartening to know that the majority of shops won’t stock your size, but what really gets me is that shopping is no longer a social activity.

    Most of my friends are 10-12 and I hate going shopping with them, they want to go in to sportsgirl or cue, and it doesn’t really occur to them that nothing will fit me there. And I just wouldn’t feel comfortable taking them in to my plus size stores, even though I’m sure it wouldn’t bother them as my friends.

    Thank GOD for the internet!! I can buy things that will fit me, and find inspiration from plus-size fashion bloggers. AND, in all this I don’t feel guilty about my local stores not getting my money, because they are the ones that don’t stock my sizes!!

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    • Mon

      I 100% agree, I can’t remember the last time I actually had a fun clothes shopping day with my girlfriends who are size 14 at the biggest.

      I understand that patterns change with larger sizes thus costing more however after living in the UK for 2 years I hardly ever had trouble finding clothes in stores. You have stores like Dorothy Perkins who go from a size 8-22 and there is no price hike for the larger sizes either.

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  25. Cat

    I’m probably allowing myself to get shot in front of the firing squad here, but so be it…

    In regards to the gallery shown not the actual article… I can never imagine Mamamia celebrating an emaciated woman on the cover of a magazine as it would be seen to be pro-ana, yet here you are celebrating Beth Ditto and Gabrielle Sidible who both appear to be morbidly obese.

    I am all for the body love and acceptance of ones shape – I absolutely love that you see many average and healthy sized women gracing covers and runways these days but I do not think going to the extreme other end of the scale is any different then glorifying unhealthy eating habits.

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    • Frangipani

      It’s simplistic to think that you’re comparing like with like when you say that.

      It is actually possible to be overweight and be healthy at the same time.

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      • lm

        I agree Frangipani you can be overweight and healthy, as well as be skinny and unhealthy.However I think what Cat is pointing to are the morbidly obese people. I don’t think you can fit that description and be healthy, and I also dont think that its fair to go on and on about skinny bordering on anorexia on mag covers, but let the truly morbidly obese covers pass without a stir.

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        • Cat

          :-) Yes – exactly my point!

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      • Anon

        You wouldn’t be considered medically overweight if you were healthy….

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        • Anonymous

          My blood pressure, cholesterol & blood sugar levels are perfect. I can jog for longer than my size 8 friends. I eat healthily & exercise 3 times a week. I’m statistically healthier than literally every person I know – and I’m a size 20. It’s not an unrealistic concept.

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      • Cat

        I know you can definitely be overweight and healthy at the same time, however there is a vast difference between being overweight and obese. Beth Ditto and Gabrielle are not overweight… they are far beyond that.

        We cry outrage when stars with eating disorders like anorexia grace magazine covers and photo shoots as they’re bad role models for our youth, but how on earth is it healthy to tell young women that their role models should be obese women? It baffles my mind a bit…

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        • maggie

          I agree with you.

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        • ladylaura

          Completely agree. That was the first thing i thought of too. Magazines etc are always harping on about ‘average’ weight/body etc but tend to forget about the part where over 60% of australians are overweight or obese therefore the ‘average’ would be closer to an unhealthy weight than healthy. I’m all for women feeling good about themselves but I do think we need to think about being healthy too. I agree with the other posters, im sure there are healthy size 14s and 16s but above that? Not so sure sorry. we are not going to stop obesity by glorifying bigger bodies. and i am not a size 6 saying this. I have been overweight in the past.

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    • I Agree

      Cat, agree entirely. Why are we encouraging those images? I love Beth Ditto’s music but she is morbidly obese. People should be striving to be at their ultimate health level, and while this does not mean everyone is going to be a size 8-10 we should stop encouraging and “normalising” this obesity epidemic with images of people like Miss Ditto who are clearly not a healthy role models.

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    • Anonymous

      It really offends me when morbidly obese women are cited as ‘curvy’ or as a ‘real woman’ and it happens often in the media. It’s over compensating for the need to recognise that the average woman is larger than the average model, which is a valid point. I don’t believe that anyone can be a size 18 or larger and genuinely be fit and healthy. 14, sure. 16, maybe. If someone is a size 18 and believes that they’re fit, but carrying just a few extra kilos, they’re deluded.

      I don’t see the difference between celebrating the morbidly obese or celebrating the unhealthily thin. Why is it so hard to accept a middle ground when it comes to health and body size? It seems like the media just veers wildly from one extreme to the other.

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      • are you serious?

        is there a problem when bigger women are called curvy? Should skinny women be called emaciated? or the fashion industry be called unhealthily sickly looking? Or judgemental people should they be called Horrible cows with no sense of empathy?

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    • Shannon

      I both agree and disagree with you.

      I agree that if the cover had been of an ‘emaciated’ model, people (and Mamamia) would be quick to point out how harmful it is rather than celebrate it and it does smack somewhat of hypocrisy.

      Where I disagree is that these images glorify unhealthy lifestyles. In my opinion, this is all about representing women of different shapes and sizes, while not necessarily making a judgment on health either way.

      Whether you are unhealthily/healthily overweight/underweight, people want clothes that they can wear and for their existence to be recognised by fashion and society.

      In an ideal world (or my ideal world), diverse representation of women – from very small to very large – aims to let people feel comfortable with how they are, even if at the same time they are working on getting healthier. For me it’s less about idealising or glorifying a particular body types as it is acknowledging the existence of various types. And by having various types, no one body is favoured as the “ideal”.

      Most people know, deep down, whether or not they are healthy; but that goal of health is going to be a whole lot harder to achieve when you feel like crap because you and others like you are treated as inferior, non-existent or just plain hideous. Studies have shown that people who feel better about themselves and the way they look are more likely to make healthy choices in their lifestyle. :)

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    • ashamasha

      what I wonder, is where are YOUR thought processes at, if the mere inclusion of a photo of an obese person is seen by you as a ‘celebration’ ?

      The photos are an example of the issue at hand, showing only the (rare) magazine shoots that have dared to use ‘plus sized’ women.

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    • Jimmy's Girl

      Celebrating?? Or merely illustrating?

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  26. Shelly in PNG

    In the last 6 years my size has ranked from 12 (pre kids) to 18. After losing 8kg this year, I am now a 14.

    I have just finished a workout at the gym wearing my beautiful new Lorna Jane gym gear. I can’t tell you how excited I was to discover that I could finally shop there. I am in a size L, their largest.

    I hope that somebody from LJ sees this article and brings in a plus size range. Stylish gym gear can really motivate you to exercise and get healthy.

    As for plus sizes in general, why do they all assume that larger women will have enormous boobs? At my largest I was an 18B. Not even specialist fitters stocked that size!

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    • Frangipani

      I am so with you on this. I exercise quite a lot and am definitely plus sized and I wish I could wear Lorna Jane workout gear rather than the Target stuff that actually fits.

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    • Anon

      AMEN, Shelly!! I love/hate LJ because their stuff is so beautiful, but for all their positive messages they don’t go to larger sizes for plus size women wanting to get healthy. At least I’m saving money.

      You thought 18B was hard to buy for? Try an 18A!!

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    • Melissa

      I have found Adidas products are great for my figure. I do not fit into Lorna Jane clothes because I have a bum and boobs and don’t like my tummy showing when I lift my arms. I’ve noticed their designs have become looser fitting and slightly longer (tops) but I’m still hesitent to walk back into their stores as the size 14 is still a squeeze to get into comfortably.

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      • Shelly in PNG

        Lorna Jane have different “fits”. I go for the looser fit tops which don’t cling to my back fat! They all sit well below my hips (I’m 5’3″ though) I have a booty and the tights fit comfortably.

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  27. Nina

    I had a charming experience with a Newtown clothing shop recently.

    Me (holding a size 10 jacket): I love this jacket, do you have it in a larger size.

    Shop owner: We only go up to size 12.

    Me: seriously?

    Shop owner: We sometimes get size 14, but I keep them out the back, I don’t hang them on the shelves, do you want me to check for you?

    Me: Why don’t you hang them?

    Shop owner: They take up too much room on the racks.

    Me: I’m terribly sorry,I feel like I’m wasting your time, I must have missed the ‘no fat chicks’ sign when I entered your store.

    shop owner: *stunned silence*

    I then proceeded to go to a store up the road and spend $200, her loss.

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    • MissT

      Such a Pretty Woman moment! “You work on commission, right? Big mistake. Big. Huge! I have to go shopping now!”

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      • Nina

        Baha! It totally was. Minus the prostitution though.

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    • inkabinka

      I had Posrtmans say that they don’t so “holds” she then looked at me and said “What Size?” I said “16″ – her reply? “Oh OK I’ll hold that, nobody buys 16″

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      • Caris

        That is harsh!

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      • Anonymous

        Ha! So there’s some advantages then!

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    • Anonymous

      Oh my God, what shop was this?!

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    • Shannon

      If you’re not going to put them on the racks, why bloody order them in the first place?

      I hate asking for help when I’m shopping and if my size isn’t on the rack I walk out and try elsewhere.

      How do they even sell them from out the back?

      But good on you for saying what you did!

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    • redqueen

      OMG! and retailers in this country wonder why profits are down?

      They just don’t get it, this is a whole untapped market that could be hugely profitable for them if they just woke up to the fact that ‘average’ is not a size 10.

      I’m about to embark on a new fitness regime and I’ll keep shopping online even after I’ve shed some kilos where I can get clothes in my size and not the retailer’s crappy attitude that goes with it.

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  28. Onliner

    True there is a huge lacking in fashionable stylish clothes for larger sizes. AND if you happen to be over 55 you are considerably disadvantaged because you do not exist you are invisible. I am a 16DD TOP and 14 – 16 bottom and tall. Dresses that are suitable do not exist. I can either look like mutton done up as lamb or look like my grandmother. I like classic rather than high fashion and have the money to pay – kids have flown the nest! I buy 90% of my clothes online from the US. a country that does not care (as far as consumerism is concerned) how big you are they just want your money. For some, you must have a US ADDRESS and you can organise that through some credit card companies…..I have. Not all the good clothes shops in the US deliver to Aust but most do. Shoes I buy in store but for everything else I buy online or when I travel overseas. Most of my friends are now doing the same. I have never experienced any problems with online shopping I have a designated card for that purpose only. I spend probably more than I care to admit on clothes and until now have not thought of the money retailers are missing out on. I just accepted the idea that they do not want me as a customer. But there are some great online choices so I win!!!

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    • LLou

      How do you organise this with yr credit card company? Please share!

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      • onliner

        american express platinum is what I have. Also there is a website that facilitates this…escapes me at the moment. will post. My daughter and I have been online shopping this way for at least 2 years. Only necessary with stores that do not deliver world wide,still some of them around. Your purchase is sent to US address and they forward onto your home address in Australia. UK have excellent styles in sizes 14 plus and most deliver world wide although it does become expensive because of the exchange rate.

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    • redqueen

      Have you tried Marks & Spencer online? lovely clothes in larger sizes and they ship here. :)

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  29. Lil

    I have struggled with my weight all my life. Mostly i am concerned about my health and wellbeing. I know women come in all shapes and sizes and they should be accommodated for by national retailers. But….we need to be careful that we don’t encourage people to feel good about being obese. There is much scientific evidence to link obesity with cancer, diabetes and heart disease.

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    • *sigh*

      I was expecting at least one person to say something along these lines.

      Why don’t they just take all the fat clothes off the shelves then? Will that encourage all us plus sized women to diet?

      No.

      It will just force us to go about nekkid.

      Choose wisely m’dear.

      Heaven forbid fat people feeling good about themselves!!

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      • Lil

        I did acknowledge that we need to cater for all body types. We also need to help fight the buden of disease that comes with obesity. I also pointed out my own personal concerns about being over weight. Obesity is akin to smoking. Both are deadly. I care more about my health than my clothes. No need to shoot me!

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        • *sigh*

          Being Morbidly Obese is obviously deadly otherwise they’d call it Gloriously Plump. Being a size 16 is not.

          There is quite a dramatic difference.

          It is more important to make women of all shapes and sizes feel good about themselves than it is to scare them into crash dieting by rolling out the usual heath fears.

          I’m not having a go at you Lil, I promise. I just hate the “concern” of society that overweight people are unhealthy. A lot of people are unhealthy, it’s just not as obvious.

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          • Shannon

            “A lot of people are unhealthy, it’s just not as obvious”

            Spot on.

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          • Kateateight

            Gloriously plump! Love it!

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          • Lil

            I agree that size 16 is not unhealthy or obese. But the pictures of the women in fashion week are not size 16 they are obese for the most part.

            I also agree that many people are unhealty and it’s not always obvious. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about themselves I just want them to aspire to be healthy.

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            • *sigh*

              I know what you mean. But the opposite is happening.

              The plus size women are ignoring the message because they know they’re fat, they know what they need to do to lose weight, and will do something about it they are good and ready, if at all.

              The women that are hearing this message are the teens and the body conscious, creating disastrous self acceptance issues and even greater health concerns because they are so eager to be thin at all costs.

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    • Mae West

      I think it’s important to keep in mind that being overweight DOES NOT equate to having poor health.

      Health at every size: http://www.haescommunity.org/

      “Let’s face facts. We’ve lost the war on obesity. Fighting fat hasn’t made the fat go away. And being thinner, even if we knew how to successfully accomplish it, will not necessarily make us healthier or happier. The war on obesity has taken its toll. Extensive “collateral damage” has resulted: Food and body preoccupation, self-hatred, eating disorders, discrimination, poor health… Few of us are at peace with our bodies, whether because we’re fat or because we fear becoming fat. Health at Every Size is the new peace movement.”

      (MM moderator – I hope this post is ok… I wanted to share this resource with other readers).

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  30. Lisa @ Blithe Moments

    I remember years ago a plus sized friend of mine saying if she didn’t buy up big when she went to America, her options here were so limited that invariably she would end up in the same outfit as someone else in the room. It is sad and silly to hear that things haven’t changed. One glance around the shopping centres can tell you the demand is there.

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  31. Elle

    Where are the tall clothes? Frustrates me to no end- several ladies fashion stores have started stocking ‘regular’ and ‘short’ lengths… What about us taller girls? At least long pants can be altered, but most jeans & pants are ankle freezers on me! And I’m 6 ft tall, not a giant by any means.

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    • Lisa @ Blithe Moments

      I am 6′ tall with disproportionately long legs and it is terrible! There is a fantastic Australian online store: http://www.talljeans.com.au/womens_store which is the only place I can buy pants long enough. I’m sick of having my ankles out in the cold.

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    • MissT

      You need to shop where I do!! I had the opposite. The other day I bought “7/8″ length pants at Country Road and they’re full length. I’m a size 8/10 and 5’9 tall. I have the same length legs as my 6′ best friend – if it’s full length on MY legs who the hell’s legs is it 7/8 of?!

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      • Lisa @ Blithe Moments

        Oh probably me! I just might have to go and look at Country Road!

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      • Lizi

        I *want* those trousers! I’m 5ft 9″ with legs same length as my 5ft 11″ sister, and have spent most of my life searching for the Holy Grail of jeans and trousers with long enough legs :-)

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        • MissT

          Country Road 7/8 Jeggings. They’re also very very comfy :)

          Also, Just Jeans have long legs in their jeans. I have bought expensive jeans before, but my Just Jeans ones always fit the best.

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    • lm

      Totally agree. I rarely wear pants unless they are jeans. And I am SO sick and tired of jackets that are too short in the arms. Why cant they have petite, medium, tall sizes?

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      • savannahofaus

        I hear you on the jackets – I’m “only” 5’10″, but I have a crazy wingspan so pretty much all long-sleeved shirts and jackets sit at least an inch above my wrists. Very irritating.

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      • Caroline

        I hear you sister! Jackets are never long enough in the sleeve. Also 5,11 and broad shouldered which doesn’t help. Or if the sleeves are long enough they are really baggy because I’ve gone up a size to get them long enough.However, bought two black blazers from Target yesterday which I’m happy with.

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    • Caris

      Target have ‘short’ and ‘regular’ length pants, but I’m yet to see a long! I’m 5″8 so not THAT tall (but have relatively long legs) and always have an issue with long pants not being as long as I’d like them

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    • Anonymous

      I’m 5″2 and the ‘short’ lengths are still often a few inches too long for me so I have to have them altered. There are many shorter women than I so it must be even more frustrating for them. So annoying.

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      • Kelly

        Haha! I am only 5’2″ and i can often get away with wearing 3/4 length as full length!

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      • CC

        At 5’5″, I always thought I was of a rather average height but the “short” length pants are always too long for me!

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      • Elle

        You are so lucky to have the option & be able to adjust them. Imagine all jeans were always too short- nothing you can do to fix that!

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    • Lizi

      When I lived in the UK, Marks and Spencer used to do short, medium and ‘tall-that-are-REALLY-tall’ leg lengths. Bliss. Couldn’t believe it when I first came here and no-one used to bother with variations.

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  32. Anne - Marie

    Not only do certain clothes designers refuse to make clothes for larger women but it seems they want women to shrink.
    my daughter, who is a classic size 6-8 in most department stores, was a model in a photo shoot. Most of the clothes supplied were actually too small for her.
    i would also agree that a lot of plus size clothes tend to be covered in gaudy patterns, and what’s with the necklines being cut so large? Larger women do not have heads twice the size of basketballs!

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  33. Tan

    i recently went to Westfield Bondi to look for a formal gown …. after walking around in circles i approached a very curvy girl at Myers .. Where was there plus size section (size 18) and she said they didnt have one at bondi ! “so i asked her werent Fat People allowed to shop there ??? she was like No .. and said she saved money by working there !!!

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  34. Ainsley

    As a plus size model, this issue is so close to my heart. I want to look good, not like I’m wearing a sack, but to wear great fitting clothes that are cut for women with curves. I am so lucky that one of my clients (curvaceous.com.au) gives me clothes that I model for them. I would like to go to David jones and not have to go to the “older ladies section…….they have better sizes for big girls” like I was told last night when I tried to use my gift voucher to find a nice dress.

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  35. Mae West

    I’ve never been into fashion, but generally I don’t buy clothes because they aren’t made for my body type (hourglass, size 16, short) – unless I want to be covered in sequins or bright, gaudy patterns. Supposedly women over a size 14 are all going for that mirror-ball look.

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    • Lulu

      “they aren’t made for my body type (hourglass, size 16, short) ”

      I hear you. I used to think that women could buy clothes at Myer if they were either short or fat – but definitely not both. Then Myer ripped the guts out of their Petites section, so it’s been a few years since they catered decently for short women of any size.

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      • Mae West

        Curious, ain’t it? Especially when the article identifies size 16 as the average size for Australian women. I’d like it if clothes were made for short statured types too (and the tall and assorted others too), but for now i’ll settle for something that fits and is tasteful – i’ll do the hemming myself.

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  36. Bradley

    Believe me, it’s not just women finding it difficult to clothe themselves. I admit that there is a very good “Big Guys” shop in my area, but generally the shirts etc that I would happily wear are never in my size.

    I would walk around naked, but I’m sure that short sighted people would insist that my white zoot suit needs ironing !

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    • Rach

      My husband has the same problem. He cannot find good shirts. His pants are ‘normal’ (i.e. 40) but because he used to lift weights and has a very broad back, cannot find a shirt to fit properly. Apparently if you are larger than an XXL, you wear plaid flannel shirts and stretchy track pants. All the time.

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    • Frangipani

      It’s the same in Canberra where I live – I have a ‘big’ father and a ‘tall’ brother and there is only one shop in the whole city where I can find decent clothing to give them as gifts that is appropriate sizing, good quality and nice stuff they would actually wear.

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  37. Lou 1(ish)

    I have to admit I’m a bit over the whole thing about clothing sizes and the trouble we all have finding things to fit properly, or finding shops that stock sizes over a 12 or 14… I rarely buy things now and instead make my own.

    But one thing I would like to know, as a person who has fluctuated between a 12 and 16, is…why is it that a size 16 in the regular section of say Target, is sized differently to a size 16 in the plus size section?

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    • Bradley

      The other week I bought some T-shirts online. Obviously, I won’t tell you what size, but when they arrived they were just slightly more comfortable than I had been expecting. I was in heaven as I prefer a slightly more relaxed fit in a shirt.

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    • Anon

      I agree why does a normal 16 change so much in the plus size 16??? It’s really not fair, and makes shopping depressing. No wonder retailers are losing sales.

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    • inkabinka

      Agreed!
      When I lost weight I was finding that MOST Size 18′s were not fitting me in regular stores. SO I went to Autograph- I had to get their smallest size taken in to fit me.
      The poor assistant- she gave me a “look” when I walked in and said “Nothing in this store will fit you”- I said I’m not here to piss-take, regular sizes don’t fit. She was rather shocked to hear that!

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    • Elly

      It’s because the plus sizes and the ‘normal’ sizes are actually based on different proportions and measurements. I think Target actually has about three or four different size ranges in the women’s wear department depending on who they’re catering for. I haven’t checked but I’d bet a size 16 in Free Fusion (do they have a size 16 in Free Fusion?) would be different to the Hot Options size 16.

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  38. Anon

    I recently went to the new DJ’s bridal suite – I’m a size 8-10 so was able to try on plenty of wedding dresses. I asked the woman assisting me what sizes they had available for brides to try on, and she responded that they generally have an 8 and a 10 or an 8 and a 12. She explained that most of the designers they stock do not make ready-to-wear in sizes larger than 14 and that they had ‘a couple’ of size 14 dresses available. Given that the average Australian woman is a size 16, this shocked me. She said they let eople know this fact over the phone when they book in (it had not been said to me) and I hope that is the case as it would be horrible to book in and not fit into a single dress!

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    • inkabinka

      I didn’t bother stepping foot into a bidal boutique for my wedding- I did online shopping and got my dress custom made to my measurements.
      Worked out well as I got a rip-off of a designer dress that was in store here for about $2500 and I had it made for $199.
      My Dad was a clothing buyer and when he examined thedress he asked if I had bought the real deal!
      I wasn’t up to facing the HUGE disappointment of going to a store. Which is sad as I would have LOVED to be able to try a few dresses on to see what suited me best etc etc

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      • Yaz

        @inkabinka – do you mind telling me where you got your dress from?! I am thinking of getting a dress made online, but am slightly overwhelmed by all the websites.

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        • Sazzajane

          Hi Yaz, I also bought my wedding dress online – I used Fashionlande.com

          It cost me $250 including rush delivery (got it within 3 weeks) and it fit like a glove. The quality was must better than some other *designer* dresses that cost a lot more. Good luck! :)

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        • inkabinka

          It was a guy on eBay- sorry I just checked and he no longer has a store on there (I got married 4 years ago) But there are LOTS of others on eBay that do exactly the same thing :)

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    • Catherine Yarham

      When I got married last year I tried on several dresses in Brisbane city and the designers had samples up to a 16 and 18. The sales assistants were very helpful and would pin the dress up at the back for me (I am about a 20 in normal sized clothes).
      I ended up buying a bridesmaid’s dress – but in a 24!

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      • inkabinka

        That was the weirdest thing- finding out that wedding dress sizes are NOT the same as normal sizes! *L* I’d look at a size 20 dress- look at the measurements and say “HUH??” and find that I’d really need a 24 or 26!

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