by JAMILA RIZVI
During his campaign for the White House in 2008, US President Barack Hussein Obama remarked at a formal dinner that he got his middle name from somebody who clearly never thought he’d run for President.
He was obviously joking but all good humour does have a basis in reality.
And in post 9/11 America, the first black man to run for President probably wasn’t going to get a helping hand from having a middle name that most of us associate with an Iraqi dictator.
Aside from physical appearance, a person’s name is usually the first piece of information we receive about them. And despite being something that most of us have no control over, our brains use names to help form that initial impression.
In other words – we judge. Perhaps it’s unfair, perhaps it’s unkind, perhaps it’s even unconscious – but it’s a judgement nonetheless.
Imagine your firm is hiring an accountant and you have two CVs in front of you – one from Brittany and one from Judith. Fess up – wouldn’t you be walking into that interview thinking Judith was the lady for the job? Just between us, doesn’t Judith sound more like a top accountant?
Last year I went on a date with a boy called Adrian. When I called my best friend to announce this development and plot my outfit, she physically shuddered and said “nope, I call veto – ‘Adrians’ are gross.” (For the record, I personally am not an Adrian-ist. All of the Adrians I know are really quite lovely.)
But do these judgements have any rational basis? After all – we don’t write our own birth certificates. Our parents do. So when you’re forming that judgement about someone based on their name, you’re actually forming an impression about the kind of person their parents wanted them to be – not who they themselves are today or dream of being tomorrow.
My grandmother went to great lengths trying to convince my mother to name me Fatima (pronounced ‘Far-tim-ah’). My mother – a primary school teacher who knew the sort of relentless teasing I would suffer in the school yard for having the word ‘fart’ in my name – went with Jamila instead.
Caitlan Moran, author of the brilliant book “How to be a Woman” revealed in a BBC interview recently that her first name used to be Catherine. When asked about the reason for the change she said:
“I was going through a phase of reading every single book in the library and I had read all the ones that had sex in them and all the ones that were funny and then I got around to the freaky ones.
And one of the freaky books was about numerology which is where each of the letters in your name has a number and you add it all up and it tells you what your destiny is.
And the destiny of being Catherine with a “C” Moran, was quite poor. Whereas, once I worked out what the destiny of someone named Caitlin Moran was, it was great!”
Without lapsing into a stoush over numerology methodology – do you think a name determines a future? Can changing names change destinies? Would it change yours?
Celebrities certainly think so.
Do you think hundreds of thousands would have flocked to cinemas around the world to watch ‘My Week with Marilyn’ last month if Marilyn Monroe had stuck with the name her mother gave her – Norma?
Would Lady Gaga have more Twitter followers than any other person in the world if she’d remained Stefanie Germanotta?
Superman definitely wouldn’t be where he is today if he’d tried to save all those damsels in distress with the name Clark Kent. Or the name Adrian. (Kidding!)
Everyone’s name tells a story.

Bob Dylan was born Robert Allen Zimmerman
What’s the story behind your name? Has your name played a role in shaping your life? Do you think changing your name can change your future?








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237 Comments so far
Just this morning my four year old old son announced that he would prefer to be known as Blast-Off. Apparently Alexander is a ‘very yucky name’…unlike Blast-Off which is quite lovely. Obviously.
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I hated my name for a while as a child. I wanted to be Sally not Amanda. Once when I met one my now husband’s best friends she made fun of my name, as though I sounded stupid and frivolous. At the time I was doing my PhD! So I get to try the Dr/Professor test every day. Dr Amanda sounds a bit naff but it flows well with my French sounding surname. I named my children Oliver Campbell and Louisa Charlotte. 3 of the 4 names are family names and I hope they pass all the tests!
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I hated my name as a kid. Got called gay (as in homosexual) from late primary school, which used to annoy me. Still not real fond of it, but I don’t like single syllable names as a rule. None of my kids have a single syllable.
2 of my kids like their names, one doesn’t (sienna) and the other doesn’t care (Shannon). I used to get sick of explaining he was a boy, not girl. All the kids are part Irish, so it suits anyway, as it’s an Irish name.
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Cant edit for some reason. When I was younger I wanted to change my name to Joanne or Louise. I thought they suited me, i would have been ok it they got shortened by others and would have gone well with my surname. My mother would have been extremely offended though. She got offended when she found out I don’t really like my name, so I just got used to it.
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Once married I became Jessica Simpson… Yepppppp
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You could’ve…. not changed your name…
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No I was happy to. No one calls me Jessica anyway.. Just Jess. Also I wanted to have the same name as our kids. I’ve kept my maiden name for work. Plus it gives people a smile, and was lots of fun on our honeymoon in the USA
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I always hated my name, and still dislike it and tell everyone to call me “Lu”. I wanted to change it many times, but my mother would be very hurt so it’s not worth doing.
I would love French or Italian origin names if I had a little girl.
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I love my name! I’ve hardly met any women with the same name, maybe one or two? But I shall not divulge it lest anyone names their children the same name and my originality/coolness will be compromised.
Jamila, I love the name Fatima! Ok maybe there’s a spiritual connection and I’m bias but it’s still so pretty to me! I also like the name Jamila. It’s one of those rare Arabic names that sound just as nice in English as it does in Arabic.
In terms of baby-naming, I find girls’ names soooo much easier to think of than boys’.
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I have apparently unspellable first and last names. Put myself through uni in retail where I had to wear a name-badge – got really really tired of people gazing at my bust while they tried to ‘silently’ work out how to say it – then started work in an office just when email was taking off, but before email ‘send’ boxes used pedictive text. I probably got 1/4 or 1/3 of the emails I was supposed to because people kept mis-spelling my full-name email address.
Soon shortened my first name for all work purposes (despite my family’s bemusement), then went to work in a male-dominated industry, where people assumed I’d shortened it so prospective clients would think I was a bloke. Never understood why they thought I’d try it, or how I would get away with it as soon as I met said client or picked up the phone. Grrrrr …..
At least now if I meet someone and introduce myself, my shortened name is strong and aurally memorable, however they spell it when they write it down.
I automatically answer to anything even vaguely approaching any syllable of either name, and if someone calls out a name from the other end of the alphabet and no-one responds I’m still likely to turn round on the assumption it is somehow probably is for me. And I automatically answer to any of those name replacements – Hey!, Oi!, Whateveryournameis, etc etc. So I don’t ever think of myself by my name.
But I did refuse to read that section in Freakonomics. And I find it bizarre how many people feel the need to comment unprompted on my names … as if I had anything to do with choosing them.
Having said that, one of my nieces has a first name so startlingly ugly that I can’t make myself call her by it. So far, she thinks it’s kind of cool that she has an aunt who calls her Squirt. But I have never commented on it, either to her or her sadly deluded parents.
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Marilyn Monroe was actually born Norma Jean Mortenson.
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I don’t like being a Madeleine. It’s too long. There were a spate of us born in 91-92 then not many after which is weird. People pronounce it Madeline or even worse think I’m Maddison, which I hate. Then I’m Maddie to my friends and Mad or Mads to my very close friends. It’s too much! Madeleine is a pretty name, and it’s a family name, but I wouldn’t recommend it. Just too many nicknames. My mum recently asked me if I’d start calling myself Madeleine when I was older and honestly, I don’t feel like a Madeleine. I feel like a Mad. Doesn’t help that it comes with two middle names and two sir names. But that’s another story!
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I’m a teacher and I can assure you that Madeleine is alive and well – can’t walk into a room without tripping over a Maddi/Maddy/Madi/Mady/Mads. They all abbreviate and I forget which ones are Madeleines and which ones are Madisons. All good though – it’s a pretty name. I hope you come to like it
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Are you my Maddie? My Maddie also hates when people think she’s a Maddison! And she’s ALWAYS been a Maddie or a Mads.
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My mum wanted to call my brother Nicholas. My pop said “what, nickel arse and copper bum?” put her right off! Dad wanted Ario after REO Speedwagon. He ended up Christopher
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I changed my surname at age 19; my original surname was extremely difficult for people to both pronounce and spell, and it didn’t reflect my ethnicity what so ever (and I’m proud of my heritage!!).
It was a little bit of a hassle at the time (changing details with the bank, medicare etc) and I constantly had people asking if I had gotten married.
It was worth it though; my new name has given me a fresh start to life after a particularly difficult childhood…and I love seeing it written on paper
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My Mum saw my name on the side of a boat, in the ward the nurses said to another lady that Kassandra was quite unfortunate LOL. I like it, never had issues in kindy spelling it. I’ve learnt to own my last name “Slack”
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I vehemently disliked my name growing up, and used to bitch and moan about it all the time like a broken record to my mum. I was born in 91 and lets just say that that Sarah was a very popular name back then and it was not unusual to have three or four of them in one class. To add to the indignity and woe that is having a common name she gave me Louisa as a middle name, and at that time the combination of Sarah as a first name and Louise as a middle name was also very popular. My sister’s name is Tamsin Felice and boy did I think I missed out on a getting a beautiful and interesting name- let’s admit, I’m still a little bit jealous all these years later. Needless to say I now appreciate the fact that I do have two ‘nice’ names that not only look good on paper and sound nice when said (regardless of how common they are) but are also relatively easy to spell and pass the Supreme Court Justice Test. I say relatively, because I still have to spell Sarah out a lot – even when I say Sarah with a h I’m still asked where the ‘h’ goes. Odd really. So thank you mum!
I’d always loved the name Vera when I was younger and thought of it as a prospective baby name in the future, which made me happy quite recently when I found out that Vera is the name of my great-grandmother on my mums side. The only problem is that for the last year or so I’ve been watching all the rerun eps of Prisoner on Austar – and just can’t think of or say the name Vera out loud without instantly thinking of ‘vinegar tits’
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Ha.. friend of mine is called Louise but heaps of people can’t type properly, so most letters/emails to her start with ‘Dear Lousie’
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You know what Frank? Thats exactly how I spelt in that post before I checked for spelling errors. I am a very fast typer, but also a very bad one, which is not a good combination! I’m just glad that I haven’t yet come across ‘Lousie’ as an alternative spelling for Lucy because that would make me very sad indeed
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OMG!!
When you said Vera I instantly thought of Prisoner.
I love Vera Wang too but my mind went to Prisoner.
Vera was actually short for Veronica on Prisoner.
Pretty name though -
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I like my name: Amy. You’d be surprised how many people go for the unusual spelling first. I’ve seen people write Amie, Aimee, Amee, etc. My last name is a burden and I can’t wait to offload it. Any suggestions on a new one?
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I have no suggestions for the name, but warnings. Get one easy to spell. I was so glad to get rid of my surname when I married, it’s a nice name and reflects my father in laws heritage, but it’s uncommon spelling (Norwegian) of a fairly common name. I have to spell out my first and last names and Astraea name. Sigh.
Maybe look for one that reflects your heritage?
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I have a love hate relationship with my name, mum heard it from Delvne Delany for Sale of the Century in the 80′s who said goodnight to her daughter Allira each night. I love that it is unusual but hate that people spell it incorrectly. It is Aboriginal and therefore spelt phonetically but I have had Ulyra, Ollyra, Aleera, but most common is Alira. I also had a difficult surname and street that needed spelling and there just wasn’t enough room on voicemail messages to do all that. I vowed to marry Matt Smith and live on First street….didn’t happen. Now I am a redhead with an Aboriginal name and a German surname!
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Lila has announced she wants to change her name to Snow White, wear a red ribbon in her hair, and read poetry. She’s 5. I’ve told her she can do it when she’s 18 (hoping she’ll have grown out of it by then). at least when I was a kid I wanted to change my name to the far more cosmopitan Charlene
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I’m Rhianna but was going to be called Sarah… Until the Sarah my Mum really liked at school was busted running a mini-prostitution ring behind the bike sheds – so she changed it to Rhianna from the Fleetwood Mac song… It’s been a different enough name to make me stand out, but not too over the top!
Now we’re trying to make decisions on what to name our soon to arrive baby… Thanks for all the tips!
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The Fleetwood Mac song is Rhiannon! Rhianna is lovely though!
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You’re right, it is too! I wasn’t called Rhiannon ‘cos my aunty is Welsh and told Mum i’d be laughed at of I went to Wales – because it means ‘witch’! Some may think it probably should have stayed as Rhiannon!!
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That’s the first time I’ve heard a story similar to mine (without the prostitution ring though). My Dad really liked the Fleetwood Mac song and so I became Rhiannon. But I get Rhianna from people more than Rhiannon or even Brianna/Briannon. It’s even more fun when my best mate who was born two days before me and I have known my whole life is a Breanna. I used to hate my name when I was a kid because whenever the song came on the radio my family would sing it at me but now I love it.
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I unfortunately hate the name Rhianna as I was bullied by a girl with that name at school..
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My name is Sally.
Apparently when mum was pregnant with me, if I were to be a born, I would be called Laura. But then dad saw me and said, ‘she looks like a Sally’.
I HATED my name growing up. I was the only Sally at a huge school. I just wanted to be a Lisa or a Jodie (I was born in the 70′s). I never met another Sally until I was 23 years old.
I don’t mind my name now I guess. People always call me Sal which I like. If someone calls me Sally I think I’m in trouble! Sally is a derivative of Sarah, which means Princess in Hebrew. And that’s all I know!
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My name is Cynthia and I’m in my 30s. I absolutely detested my name growing up. I went to school with girls called Kelly and Stacy etc. I’ve only come across two other Cynthia’s who were 40+ years older. Now I really enjoy receiving compliments from the very elderly.
I once met an elderly man who said he and his wife always wanted a daughter called Cynthia but sadly they were never able to have children so he named his car Cynthia instead!
Cynthia has never come back in vogue even with all the vintage names and I don’t mind. Just don’t call me $&@&ing Cindy!!!!
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I knew an Adrian (nice guy) whose nickname was Aids. Not so pleasant.
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I’m coming in on the end of this discussion so don’t know if anyone will even read this, but I need to tell my story! I grew up hating my name (Joan – named after my mother’s childhood doll no less!) as I considered it old-fashioned, harsh and it only had awful rhyming words – moan, groan, bone – which I got teased at school about. Shortly after leaving school I travelled overseas for three months and decided to use my middle name, to “test it out” as a name I could use when I returned to full-time work. I copped a lot of flack from my family and, while I still like the name, I decided that it was too much of a mouthful (four syllables). A few days before flying back to Australia, I had a conversation with someone who heard about my name dilemma and he suggested I use a shortened form of my name, Jo.
So that’s the name I’ve been called for the past 25 years. When I married I did not want to be called “Joan” during the wedding service – as my husband said, it would seem like he was marrying a stranger as he’d only known me as Jo! Thankfully the minister was happy and willing to use my new name and the only mention of Joan is on my wedding certificate.
Funny though how I used to think Joan was a “grandma” name because the years are going so fast before I know it I’ll be one myself! I still hear this name and cringe.
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I have an unusual first name, and it sucks. My mother always said I’d like it when I grow up, but I never did. I should have changed it when I turned 18. I wouldn’t know what to change it to, it’s really hard to name yourself.
I think what your named affects you. I think it has cast a negative shadow over my life. As a child I would just shudder at the thought of someone calling my name out in public, because they would pronounce it wrong, I was so embarrassed by it. It made me different but not in a good way. How I longed to buy a ruler or a keyring with my name on it.
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I have a thing about dating men with naff names. I rememeber having a conversation with a gf years ago when she tried to line me up with a Cecil. I mean – puhlease. Its not a name you can call out in a moment of passion, is it.
That said – I have dated a Neville…..
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I hated my unusual name growing up but now I love it.
I’m pregant with #2 a girl, I’m set on her middle name being Lou (shortened from Louise for my mum) I’m not sure they go well with my 2 top picks though, Marlowe or Quinn.
I’m not into girly names!
Suggestions anyone?
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Marlowe Lou is a bit of a mouthful – I’m getting stuck on the low-loo syllables.
Quinn Lou? Sounds nice (with a bit of an Asian tone) but does it go with the surname?
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Yep they both go with the last name, I think I’m going to have to give up on Lou it’s just not sitting right
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The middle (family) name I wanted for my daughter was too rhyme-y with her first name. Same problem…they just didn’t sit right together. So we stuck another middle name in between them. Problem solved!
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I think both of them sound nice with Louise …
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I agree but I’m just not a fan of Louise, wanted to do my own take on it
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Maybe change the spelling to Luese? Or Luise? Or Louisa?…………Luisa? or Luissa?
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there’s always Louelle, Louette or Luanne?
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Eloise or Luisa could work?
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Slightly off topic but I’m hoping someone might identify. I’ve been divorced for 10 years but still use my then-married name. Current partnered for 7 years but not married, and no plans to get married. Have been thinking about changing my name to his as would love to be rid of the married name. Wished I had changed it years ago but didn’t like my maiden name so stayed as I was. Is it just too silly to do it now after 7 years with the new bloke? Would people think it was weired that I changed my name without getting married? I think my family might…… I know HE would love it if I did. Just not sure about the protocols! I feel weired about doing it but think I would like to do it………
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My mum still has my dad’s surname ( & mine ) even though they divorced over 20 years ago. She’s been with my step-dad for 22 years, had 2 children but they never married.
Do what makes you happy!
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You answered your own dilemma! “I wish I had changed it years ago…..would love to be rid of the married name…..I think I would like to….”
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I changed my last name to my partner’s after 8 years. We weren’t interested in getting married but wanted the same name as our future kids. My Mum was the only one that took issue, but I deprived her of Mother of the Bride joy
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I do think the name does shape the future to some extent.
“Marion Morrison” just doesn’t cut it if you’re going to be a macho he-man cowboy in movies…..
And I like the idea of imagining “Dr.” or “Princess” in front of the name you’re thinking of. Princess Kylie? Dr. Tamieka…
However, Monaco ended up with Princess Charlene.
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My name is quite common in my country of origin but definitely not common in the West. I’ve had problems with people pronouncing my full name and got so sick of people messing it up that I decided to just use the first 3 letters as a sort of nick name…so even my husband mainly calls me by the shortened version. In fact I think my mum is the only one who occasionally calls me by my full name, mainly I get different shortened versions of it.
When we moved to Australia back in 1987 my parents quickly realised that people couldn’t say our names so what did they do…. decided to give us all including themselves common western names all starting with the same letter! Omg bane of my existence! So now I have my birth name and this western name on all of my documents and it’s all just so bloody confusing! I vow to give my potential future children easy names!
By the way my birth name is Nazanin (Naz for short) it is Persian/Iranian in origin and means sweetheart/sweet/cute depending on if you use the full name or shortened version. I do love my birth name but when it gets butchered (naznine, nazan, nazeen….) I hate it!
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I’ve always liked my name. I think Monique is nice. Plus, there are so many nicknames. To name a few: Neek, Neeky, Squeak, Squeaky, Monsqueak, Mon and lately I’ve been getting Mon Mon a lot. I also think it goes nicely with my middle name, Yvette. Very French.
My parents nearly called me Marika, and I thank God every day that they changed their minds, I don’t think I could pull it off!
I love so many names. I love very simple names, quirky names, old fashioned names, but I keep trying to remind myself “would I want that to be MY name” and for the most part, I’ve decided that no matter how much I love the character, I’d be pretty pissed if I was a boy and my Mum called me Sirius.
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And by lately I’ve been getting Mon Mon, you mean: lately Tamsin keeps calling me Mon Mon
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I’m also a Monique. I love the name now, but I do remember wishing it was different when I was young. I think it had something to do with Miss Helena never seeing “Monique” through the Magic Mirror.
My family calls me Niquie or Nique, but lately people have been calling me Mon. I used to hate “Mon” but now I’m just accepting that this is the Aussie way. At least it’s not Mozza, or Mozzie.
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I liked and hated how no one else had my name. You’ll never have Monique as a main character in a book or movie. With the exception of the minor character Monique in “She’s The Man”. I can’t tell you how excited I was when there was a very minor character called Monique in the Tomorrow When The War Began series (last book).
My family has always called me Neek or Neeky (rarely spelt the way you do, we’re just not that correct haha) and I was never called Mon really until I went to uni and that’s what everyone called me!
I was given Monza and Monsta for a while which I was OK with. One friend had called me Mozzie, hated it!
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Yep, another Monique here, nearly everyone I know calls me Neeks, The only person who calls me by my first name is my mum and that’s when I’m in trouble haha. My brother calls me Squeaks or Squeakazoid, AND I hate being called Mon haha, anyway I seen this comment/thread so just thought I would throw my 2 cents worth in. – Have a great day guys x
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I recently changed my middle name to Lorenza.
It was Louise Jane.
I just figured I’ve spent 25 years with what I was given, I changed my last name when I got married, and I am not planning on having children.. so why not change my middle name to something funky and new.
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I’ve never had a problem with my name and I can’t ever imagine changing it. I’ve always been Rebecca or Bec. But never Becky.
I can’t stand when people give their babies names with ridiculous spelling (Aimee or Aymii over Amy? WHY?!) and even punctuation in the middle (I saw a birth notice for baby D’troit in the paper recently….).
I’m also not a huge fan of names like Kateisha, Kaneisha, Taneisha or anything of that ilk. But that’s just a personal preference.
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Rebecca I agree with your points and also dislike most of those names, but I think you’ll find that ‘Aimee’ is the perfectly valid French spelling of Amy.
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When I was about 4 my parents told me that if I had been a boy I would’ve been named Toby. I was absolutely disgusted by the notion as the only Toby I knew was a boy in kindy who was really gross and mean!
Then, when I was 8 I decided that I wanted to change my name as soon I was legally permitted because Alexandra was just such a long mouthful. My darling mother was quite offended. Thankfully I had changed my mind by the time I turned 18!
Now, I’m very happy with my name (and multitude of nicknames) and I don’t think Toby is a bad name at all!
PS: You got lucky, Jamila!!
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Hey Alex
I have an Alexander and the only time I regretted the length of his name was in kindy and every morning they had to sit and practice writing their name. It took FOREVER. I thought I should have named him Ben!! In those days I insisted on him being called Alexander but now he is Alex. Common sense prevailed, haha.
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My father calls me Alexandra, he is the only one.
Alex I hated as a kid growing up, but at least at an all girls school there weren’t many Alex’s.
I think it suits a boy more than a girl, my best friend writes my name as Alix.
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Hi Also Alex
I also have a niece Alexandra and she is known as Alie. Suits her too.
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My first name is Angel and my middle name is Dawn. I used to hate my name when I was younger, especially working in retail and hearing the one liners from dirty old men lol. I’ve now grown to like it as it’s a little different (although I still think it could be a porn stars name!)
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I have a friend called Angel who goes by Ang in her proffessional life. She feels she gets treated more seriously with her abreviated name, especially with middle aged male clients!
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I like this topic. My Dad is usually a very ‘common sense’ sort of guy but he said one day, “you know, I really don’t know any Kevin’s that I’ve liked. Must be the name.”
And my friend firmly believes that all guys with the name ‘Mark’ are weird and she won’t go near them.
Seems silly to me, but there you have it. And nah, I like my name. It’s not flowery and when put with my surname it’s a bit cool actually.
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My father and his brother are both Jean (John), but Dad is known by a nickname made from his first and middle name, Janic (Ja for Jean and Nic for Nicolaas), and his brother is known by his middle name. Their 4 sisters are all Marie, and all known by their middle name. One of the sisters occasionally gets MAX as that is her three initials (two middle names)!
I used to think this was just my grandfather being odd, but it turns out that his wife and her mother are also the same. Marie Caroline (known as Mieke, same as Dad, part first name, part middle name) and Marie Josephine, known as Josephine.
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Oh, but thankfully I’m not Marie Renee. Although my sister has Marie for a middle name!
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Mauritians?
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Pretty much all the women in my father’s family (his mother, aunts, cousins etc) are called Maria, but have nicknames that they’re known by. Thank goodness my mother (who’s name also happens to be Maria and the only one called Maria) wouldn’t have a bar of it!
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I hated my name growing up. Colene. One ‘L’ and muddled up ‘E’s. All I wanted was a name I didn’t have to spell out which is why my kids have very traditional names with traditional spellings.
These days when I say my name and people spell it, then ask if it’s correct, I always say ‘close enough’ and move on unless it’s a legal document. I just don’t have the energy to spend getting it right for a pizza order.
And for the record, the Adrians I know are a real mixed bag. A couple of complete tools and a couple that are some of the very best people I know.
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Picking our 2 son’s names were so hard! We ended up with Lachlan and Ryan and people still end up spelling Lachlan wrong! We’ve had Lochlan and Lauchlan.
My name’s Karla and fortunately I don’t mind it. Not overly common and not too cra-zay! When people are writing my name down I say Karla with a K so not too tricky but my maiden name was Field and married name now Jones and people still can’t spell either of these names. You can’t win really.
My poor ol’ hubby’s name is Barry and he hates it with a passion.
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My parents wanted to call me Liesl after seeing The Sound of Music, but decided to name me Elizabeth and use Liesl as a nickname. My father then translated Elizabeth into the Portuguese form of Isabel, for my birth certificate.
My older siblings wouldn’t call me Liesl or Lisa – only Lilibet, which my Grandmother insisted on calling me right up until she died (because I was her little princess).
In primary school I was Elizabeth, but then in high school (after finding out at 15 that my name was really Isabel) I decided to change the spelling to Elisabeth.
The first job I had where there was another Elizabeth, one guy wanted to start calling me Betty, but I soon stopped that in it’s tracks and requested Liz instead. This continued until I married and changed my surname, and Liz just stuck.
A few years ago a friend asked me what name I preferred and I told her, that I actually would have liked to use Libby. She then started calling me Libby, but I couldn’t take another name change and asked her to stop.
So in the course of my life, so far, I have been called (or at least attempted to be called) 9 different names. And that’s not counting the other nicknames handed down by siblings, friends and boyfriends such as Lizard Breath, Lizzy, Lizzy Pizzy, Mouse, Termite and Phillip (don’t ask).
At this point in my life, I am known by three names: Elizabeth by family and very old friends, Liz by newer friends and colleagues and Isabel by people who don’t know me at all, ie banks, telemarketers etc. Great for screening phone calls, but that’s about it.
So, NO, I don’t wish to change my name, in fact I wish I had just one name!
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Phillip after Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth right?
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Lilibet for Queen Elizabeth, but Phillip is my husband’s little joke. The first house we built was made of a brick call Phillip, and ever the jokester, he thought that sometimes talking to me is like talking to a brick wall … hence Phillip.
I didn’t say I answered to it though
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Just noticed, as I tend to do…
Elisabeth = (anagram): The Isabel
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It’s been my name for nearly 44 years, and I never noticed that
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I have similar story, I grew up thinking my name was Genna but found out when I was 9 it is Genevieve…when I went to get my licence I found out on my birth certificate my parents messed up my middle and first names so, to old family friends I am Genna, friends from Uni/work onwards Genevieve (after getting sick of Jenna Jamison jokes at Uni) Gen for close friends, GenGen to my nieces and nephews and official people like banks, airport people etc. I am Elizabeth Genevieve (middle name first)….makes for funny stories now but was confusing growing up…
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While I’ve always loved my name, I truly hate having to spell it all the time. It’s a common enough name (pronounced like Anja or Anya) but the spelling throws people. No one ever pronounces it right and introducing myself takes ages. “A-knee-yah?” “Ania”. “Aaaah-ni-yah?” “Ania”. “Anne-yah?” “ANIA”. “Oh, how do you spell that? Where’s that from?” Honestly. All I want is a dentist appointment. You don’t need my life history.
Funnily, it’s not even my parent’s fault. I was born in Poland where Ania is THE most common name for girls. But here it gets special. We all have “formal” names (mine is Anna, pronounced Un-nah) and the diminutive version which friends and family use (Ania). So all my documents say “Anna”, people call me “Ania” and either assume there’s been a typo on my driver’s licence or get very, very very confused.
Similarly, my husband is Alastair (hi to any of my friends reading this!). There are about a billion different spellings and if his is spelled correctly on a document, it’s a fluke.
So, having first-hand experience of hard to spell names, we’ve gone with Connor and William for our boys. They’d better appreciate it (hope they don’t move to Poland).
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HAHA the Connor’s I know, spell their names Conor.
So your poor boy might have to spell that too!
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Anon, I am sorry that you nit pick too. What’s the diff?
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The boy and I have talked and have agreed on Margaret Mary for a girl … Meg or Maggie for short. We can’t agree on a name for a boy … so fingers crossed whatever pops out first is pink!
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I was named after a Barry Manilow song, enough said really!
Before my first of two girls was born my neighbour told me this: the name has to sound good after the prefixes ‘Doctor’ and ‘Princess’ – if it sounds like a name you’d trust as a Dr, or someone Prince Freddy might have married, you’re on a winner
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Hate my name. Hate it!! But I have been forced to admit that it’s ‘me’.
I used to want to be Alison. Can anyone see me as an Alison? A friend compromised and for a few years he called me Amber.
I used to want to name a daughter Angelique or Giselle, but I couldn’t handle hearing Ange-elle-eek or Jizz-elle, when I would want them pronounced On-jel-eek and Schi-zelle. So figure it’s not worth the bother.
I’ve picked a different name for my imaginary daughter.
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My name is Alison and I always hated it. I tried to get people to call me ally but stupidly spelt it Ali. Yep that’s right now I get Ali, pronounced like the boxer!
Always wanted to be called Lily, loved it so much I now have a daughter Lily Rose
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My daughters favourite dolls are called lily and lily rose!
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This is good timing for me- I’m trying to choose my baby’s name as I’m due in 3 weeks (eek!). So… As I respect the readers of MM, and can do this anonymously- I’d like to share our top 5s (we don’t know the sex):
Boys:
1. August
2. Jules
3. Auden
4. Ruben
5. Aven
Girls:
1. Indigo
2. Ivy
3. Nyah
4. Sage
5. Auburn
So… Thoughts?? Xx
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I love Jules and Ruben and Ivy and Sage!
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My votes go to Jules, Reuben (traditional spelling), and Ivy.
Good luck!
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I like Jules and Aven
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Aven and Ivy are nice
Congrats!
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Go Indigo! Jules is nice too
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My suggestion is try to imagine the following:
1. Pretend the name is your boss’s name. Does it fit? Would you respect someone older than you with that name?
2. “Read” it in the paper: Opposition leader August Smith today said… – does that work?
3. Imagine yourself making a hair appointment. “Hi, it’s Sage Smith here.” How do you feel?
Consider that your child will have that name forever, so will it be as cute when they are 60 and a justice of the supreme court as it is at the farmer’s market when they are 3?
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So true.When picking baby names, the advice I’ve recieved is that you should picture the child as a prime minister, is it a strong name, one that evokes leadership?
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I am now even more confident in the names I have selected for my imaginary children.
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I think you can be very creative with girls names – but boys suffer a lot more with a weird name. I’m sorry, but I think Jules is the only boys name that won’t get him teased at school (even then, it is a bit similar to Julie or Julia – girly names are death in the schoolyard). Auden and Aven in particular, while they sound nice, will bring him grief. Also, as someone else pointed out, Ruben should be spelt Reuben – avoid a lifetime of him having to correct people. Trust me on that (no one ever spells my name right).
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I love Jules and Ivy!
You’ll have to let us know what name you pick
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I like all these names but i think August is more likeable as a girl’s name.
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Augusta is the feminine version of August.
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as a teacher I think Auden and Aven are likely to create playground issues (possible August too, but not as much). For the girls I like your first 2, Nyah whilst pretty, I can see having school issues and Auburn is probably ok, as long as you don’t live in Sydney and she never plans on living there either.
I would also advise – don;t make the final choice until after the baby is born, my daughter was “always” going to have a particular name and when I finally had baby girl she did not suit the name we had at the top of our girls list. Luckily number 2 suited perfectly.
Good luck
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We obviously aren’t from Sydney, and I’m not sure what the connection is (a suburb?) but as a few people have noted that Auburn isn’t ok in Sydney then I’ll leave that out. Oh, and we have got red hair twinges, so that probably rules it out.
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Auburn is a suburb in south western Sydney, it’s reputation isn’t the best.
I read your comment below and I really like Jude as a boys name
Naming kids is so hard – so much choice and so much responsibility
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There is an Auburn in Melbourne too, ignorant Sydneysider….
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How does not knowing all the suburbs of Melbourne make me ignorant? In any case, at least im not rude and hiding behind “anonymous”!
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If you go for Jules, consider Julian as the full name, and Jules for short. I work with a guy whose name is Julia -, we all call him Jules, but he sounds more professional as a “Julian” for clients.
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If you go for Jules, consider Julian as the full name, and Jules for short. I work with a guy whose name is Julian -, we all call him Jules, but he sounds more professional as a “Julian” for clients.
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What about Julio? instead of jules
love LOVE August!
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Thanks very much everyone! We are really struggling this time around. I think we did a good job with our first child, an unusual name- which is important to us- but still strong and easy to spell. And not bogan
But this time is much harder!! Interesting about the Reuben/Ruben spelling- I have only ever met ‘Ruben’s, so I had assumed that was the traditional spelling. I certainly don’t want to do some strange spelling of a normal name, so I will go with that. I definitely think that August is a boys name (and agree that Augusta- yuck- is the feminine version). BUt reading back over the list I have ruled out Nyah (it was never near the top anyway) and probably Sage. I can’t imagine a Sage that’s anything other than a naturopath- and while I don’t mind that at all I wouldn’t want to limit her choices! Besides, my mother in law liked it, so it should have rung alarm bells anyway!! I also agree with the comment that girls names can be more creative than boys- so I might revisit. What do we think about Jude as a boys name?
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I love Jude for a boy, big Thomas Hardy fan.
(P.S. Aven is one of the names I hope to use for a future son, was slightly gutted to see someone else planning to use it, even if we don’t know each other!)
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Wow! I’ve never heard of another Aven! We must have great taste… I’ll take it as a compliment
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My initial thought is “Don’t ask people on the internet!!!!”
Seriously, though, pick something that people will be able to spell with ease. Think about the possible nicknames and abbreviations. Next, look at the most popular names in the state and make sure your name choice isn’t on it. Take it from someone with a ‘popular’ name. It’s not much fun! Most of all, pick something that you like and that means something to you.
I like middle names for beloved relatives. It’s a lovely story for the child as they grow up, I think.
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I’m a female Jules but it’s short for Julia.
I quite like the nickname for men and women but in the interests of being completely honest here, I think having a first name that is just a nickname or shortened version of a full name is a bit bogan. Go with Julian if you want a Jules….
On the same token, you want a Will? name him William… a Charlie? Charles… a Tory or a Vicky? Victoria… an Alex? Alexander/Alexandra… just my opinion of course but it doesn’t hurt for you to know what some people might think!
(and yes, I know it’s a french first name but in Australia people will almost always assume it’s a nickname)
PS Really love your girls names… Ivy is particularly gorgeous, I also love Indigo and Auburn (but don’t call a redhead that!)!!
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I thought names ending with the letter O were usually boys names? I guess it must be unisex. Sage is also a boys name.
Auburn is no good if you live in Sydney. Jules is fine for a nickname but it should really start out as Julian..
I guess like the others said, think about the spelling & the nicknames. Auden will get Audan. Aven will be Avan or Avon!!
Im sure whatever you pick will be perfect for your bub.
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I like your girls names. I think some of the the boys names are a bit feminine.
If I saw Aven, Auden or Jules on a resume I would assume it was a woman.
I don’t mind August because it could be shortened to Gus.
How about Aiden, Ronan or Jude? Similar but a bit more manly….
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Jamila, you suit the meaning of your name very well
(and for others who are wondering, ‘Jamila’ means ‘beautiful’). I quite wanted to name our daughter Jamila!
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Thanks Susan
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And, in fact, Jemima Gildsmith became Jemila when she married Imran Khan – at least to the people of Pakistan. The Arabic language has some absolutely beautiful names. I adore Khadija and Aisha but they are both so common – not so much in Australia but certainly in other countries.
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And, in fact, Jemima Goldsmith became Jemila when she married Imran Khan – at least to the people of Pakistan. The Arabic language has some absolutely beautiful names. I adore Khadija and Aisha but they are both so common – not so much in Australia but certainly in other countries.
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I went through a period of making my family calling me Daisy – after Daisy Duke who I thought was so glamorous & amazing. Great role model. Hahahaha. I have never liked my name, Andrea, and now just introduce myself as Andi. I always thought my sister got the ‘good’ name – Kristin.
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Andi is super cute! I like it! xx
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My sister works in long day-care centres, and prides herself on being able to think up what other kids will do to your children’s names in the playground.
Eg: She thinks tht Brad & Angelina’s “Shiloh Pitt” will get called “Pile-O-Shit”.
Needless to say, when I had a baby recently, I told her ALL of the names we were considering!!
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Do kids actually do this anymore? I think there is such a variation of names that their peer group won’t care, but us of the preceding generations still think it would be a problem.
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Hi there, sadly kiddies still make fun of names…as a teacher I won’t forget the look on Lana’s face when the boys realised her name backwards is ‘anal’ or when they figured out Tara backwards is ‘a-rat’ Kids can be so cruel! I am going to think long and hard about my future kids names!
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I have had lots interesting times with my name, I have an unusual first name Kasia (pronounced Asia, with a K in front) but my maiden name was a really plain anglo saxon name so although I was forever spelling it and correcting people pronunciation they could tell with the last name my cultural identity. As an adult I married a man with a Sri Lankan background, and wanting to be a little old fashioned I took his surname so I would match my kids, I know plenty of people dont do this, but I prefer that. Anyway now my name is waaaaaay out there and people are always telling me when we meet if they have my name that I am not what they expected lol.
I gave my kids names that were cross cultural (hubby has a muslim background) eg Zara but reasonably plain so it was clear they had some of my culture in them as well as hubby.
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Pile-o-shit!!!! Hahahaha
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I hated my name growing up. So boring. Then I found out what my Gran would have me called if my parents had let her have her way. Leonie Vera. Suddenly Leanne Maree wasn’t so bad after all.
My eldest has an unusual name I thought I made up. Chereena. But like everything else you think is original, someone has done it before. People often get the spelling wrong but it never seemed to bother her.
The youngest is Amii. She hates it when people spell it wrong but what chance do they have with so many different ways to spell it!
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I am interested in your choices. You mentioned that you hated your name growing up and then chose very unconventional and challenging to spell names for your children. Those two things don’t make sense to me!
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Not speaking for Leanne here but she says she hated her name growing up because it was so “boring”. Maybe this is why she picked unconventional names with challenging spellings? Just a thought though, I could be way off.
I think our own experiences with our names will always impact on the names we choose for our children. My name is Alece ( said A – lise) and I am CONSTANTLY spelling my name or saying yes I’m aware that it’s an unusual spelling. For this reason, whilst I may pick uncommon names when the time comes to have children, I will always make sure they are easy to spell. Although, having said that my Mum considers my name easy to spell lol
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I thought Leanne was plain and boring and always wished for something more exotic. i called myself … *cough* … Lilly for a while when I was 10. Don’t think it was long after that I found out I could have been Leonie.
I’ve always like the different and unusual.
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PS: Oddly enough, quite by accident I discovered that if you look at the meanings, Chereena = Cherie = dear, or darling. Amii = Amy = beloved.
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didnt even know that Elton John or Charlie Sheen had changed their names hahah Reginald!! thats a great name! hehe…..when i was young i didnt like my name as it was unusal i wanted something more plain so i wanted to change it but once i grew up i liked that “Mia” was an uncommon name and grew to love it
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Charlie Sheen changed his to match his Dad – Martin Sheen, but his brother kept it, Emilio Estevez!
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One of my cousins changed his name from Steve to Estevez (after Emilio) so he would stand out when doing acting auditions. Must have worked, he plays a villain on NZ’s Shortland St.
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This is how thick I am with pop culture… am I the last person on the planet who didn’t know that Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez were brothers?! Since when?!
Oh dear.
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I ALWAYS get questioned on my name Elliot as a girl. It’s beyond a joke! For some reason people think they have the right to say ‘Oh my goodness! what were your parents on when they named you!’ or ‘You know thats a boys name’ even little things like ringing up for a doctors appointment and the receptionist asking if its for my son?! come on lady!! Depending on my mood sometimes I give a bit of attitude but usually I just stare at the person and they tend to realise they should probably keep their mouth shut! Hehe
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Elliott! Love it.
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There’s a funny episode of Scrubs where a misogynist male patient refused to believe that Elliot Reid was a female doctor and assumed she was a nurse, she gets the janitor to pretend that he is infact Dr Elliot Reid! I personally love the name Elliot for a girl
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Ha ha, I forgot about Elliott from Scrubs! Classic!
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I loooove the name Elliot (or Eliot as I would spell it) for a girl. My partner and I aren’t planning on having kids, but Eliot would be top of my list for a girl. I love TS Eliot and George Eliot (an amazing author who was actually a woman and, I think, a great role model for a girl).
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Names definitely make a difference. I have a hyphenated last name and for years had to deal with being mistaken as “George” at school because my first name didn’t fit after my last name on the roll call.
I seriously considered changing it before I turned 18 but by that stage I was building a nice reputation as an actress and writer and I decided it was better to stick with it.
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