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rosiewaterlandheadshot2 Youll be less of a woman if you have a caesarean

Rosie Waterland would prefer a c-section over a natural birth

I once had a boyfriend who told me he thought I’d be less of a woman if I didn’t give birth ‘naturally’.

Of course, this was the same boyfriend who literally threw up a little the one time in our two-year relationship I dared to fart in his presence, so in hindsight he had some serious issues when it came to his ideas about women.

I was telling him one day about my sister’s experience with childbirth. She went through such excruciating pain during her labour that she still maintains with all seriousness that if someone hadn’t been in the room with her the entire time she would have jumped out the third-story window.

I then went on to tell him that when I eventually get pregnant, I have a genius c-section/tummy-tuck plan that involves waking up with a gunk-free baby in a fluffy blanket sleeping peacefully next to me. Brilliant, no? I waited for him to applaud my practical approach to childbirth. He would never want the woman he loves to be in so much physical pain that she would jump out a third-story window. Right?

planned caesarean Youll be less of a woman if you have a caesarean

My birth plan: a c-section

Unfortunately, the applause never came. Instead, there was some nervous laughter, followed by something along the lines of, ‘but obviously you want to go through it, right? I mean, jokes aside Rosie, it’s important for a woman to experience birth the proper way…’

He laughed, thinking I was kidding. I laughed, thinking he was kidding. Then as it slowly dawned on each of us that the other was dead serious, we managed to say an awkward ‘wait… what?’ in unison before a very tense silence took hold of the room.

Needless to say, we’re no longer together. But it did plant a nagging seed in my mind that I still find difficult to get rid of. Am I the only one? The only woman with no qualms about planning a c-section in order to avoid pain and keep my lady parts intact

Is anyone else just not interested in pushing a baby out of their vagina?

My ex-boyfriend isn’t alone; I’ve had both male and female friends react strongly when I’ve told them my future c-section plan. To me (well for me), it’s an absolute no-brainer. We no longer expect some poor chump to bite down on a leather strap and be brave while we amputate one of his limbs – so why do we still expect a woman to go through even worse agony to have a child? The hyperbolic rants I go on when I knock my elbow should be some indication of how I handle pain. Not well, evidently. I can’t imagine myself in the throes of baby delivering.

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I think my birthing anxiety stems back to a book my mum left on the bottom shelf when I was in kindergarten. It was for expectant mothers and had lots of extremely graphic pictures of women with ’80s haircuts and twisted faces pushing out babies. And did I mention graphic?

All I knew was this thing I currently identified as a ‘wee-wee’ was eventually going to be ripped apart while I lay with my legs in the air on some bed of excrutiating pain.

I’m guessing that’s the reason I’ve never associated childbirth as some kind of romantic female rite of passage. But don’t get me wrong; I absolutely respect the women who do want to give birth the old-fashioned way. In fact, I think any woman who gives it a go deserves some kind of prize (I know the baby should be prize enough and blah blah blah, but I’m thinking more an ASOS voucher).

In fact, any woman who gives birth in any kind of way deserves a prize (let’s not forget the residual pain of a c-section that many women love to remind me about); even those lottery-winning ladies of legend who orgasm during childbirth had to carry the baby around for nine months.

I guess the trick lies in finding a partner who has the same push values as you do. Because no matter what way a woman decides to remove an entire person from her body, that decision should be accepted with the utmost respect and enthusiasm (and absolutely no comment on your perceived notion of her level of ‘womanhood’).

I may not get the appeal of pushing; you may not get the appeal of having a massive gash healing across one’s stomach for months just to avoid labour. Does it matter? Everyone has a thousand sleepless nights and nappies to look forward to, so what’s the difference really?

Isn’t it just the baby that counts in the end? I’m keen to hear your view.

Rosie Waterland is a writer based in Sydney. She finds her own jokes particularly hilarious. Follow her blog at http://rosiewaterland.wordpress.com/ or twitter: @rosiewaterland

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  1. Get a clue

    “keep my lady parts intact”… you are clearly very naive about the child birth process if you believe that having a baby will destroy your vagina. This is simply not the case. Mine stayed completely in tact as do those of many other women!

    I suggest you educate yourself a little better as those sorts of comments are offensive.

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    • Sigh

      Get a clue, please don’t say ‘this is simply not the case’ – you are one of the lucky ones. There are a LOT who would be offended by you saying that.

      Some have had our vaginas destroyed by childbirth and wouldn’t wish the damage on any woman.

      Instead be grateful you are one of the lucky ones that gets to have the opportunity to go on to have a great sex life – many don’t!

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    • Mum of two cheeky monkeys

      Really? I have heard different. I’ve had two c sections, neither by choice but in retrospect it isn’t such a terrible way of doing things. Many of my friends that have had babies have told me it definitely stretches. Obviously everyone has the pelvic floor to contend with either way, but I did have a doctor tell me that my cervix was thicker because I had a c section that it would have been naturally. (There was a context for it, just very complicated).

      In the writer’s defense, she hasn’t been pregnant – I have twice, and carried two babies to term, and I didn’t know that your vagina wasn’t affected by the stretching, so I can’t really blame her.

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      • Get a clue

        The offence is taken at the sweeping judgment that everybody who has a vaginal birth will come out less then perfect.

        I appreciate that not everyone is as lucky to have things remain as they were before however… the insinuation in this article is that this is impossible.

        It is not a given that everybody will have damage as it is not a given that everybody won’t.

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    • twomummies

      As I said above my vagina was ‘wrecked’ and I don’t find the comments offensive in the least.

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      • Sigh

        Mine too twomummies and I wish every day that I could have had a c-section.

        It has nothing to do with the pain, it has to do with your life after your babies birth.

        The people that write with such strong opinions that it is ‘natural’ etc etc are the ones that everything went right for and they never consider the alternative because they didn’t go through it.

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    • The Original Steph

      My aunt had two 10 pounders in the 80′s. She is nearing uterine prolapse and incontinence, and is having a hysterectomy in November.

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      • Faybian

        My MIL had 6 babies in the 60s, the lightest 8 1/2lbs and the heaviest 11lbs. She does not have a uterine prolapse. There a multitude of factors for prolapse, like pregnancy itself, but pelvic floor muscle exercises are one of the simplest methods of prevention of prolapse.

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  2. Mumma of 2 naturally

    Its quite a different thing giving birth to having your leg amputated, one is natural, the other is not, so to compare the two to justify your choice is ridiculous.

    Your right that in the end we all have a baby so whats the big deal..?However, YOUR BODY IS MADE FOR THIS. Its not something to be frightened of, sure it hurts but I bet you a c-sect would hurt for longer, and its pain you want to avoid right? A day of pain compared to weeks of it? Give me a natural birth anyday..

    And if your choice was to be based on the benefits for your baby then natural birth would win for a multitude of reasons.

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  3. Amber

    Ive had similar views, but i dont think you can really form an opinion until you are in the situation. I think your views may change after 9 months of pregnancy, i watched the birth of my nephew, completely traumatizing, at the time i said im not doing that, cut the thing out, but now that I am a little older and probably closer to my child bearing years, i think i will do it the old fashion way, a c section if needed, but that is something i will consider when im actually pregnant. i think you views change over time.

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  4. Kelly Slater (not the surfer)

    Good Luck for your surgery tomorrow, Melanie!!! Hope it all goes wel xo

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  5. Kelly Slater (not the surfer)

    Hi Rosie!

    I had a C-Section in February of this year, due to me being absolutely terrified of giving birth naturally.

    To anyone who thinks this is “bad”, I’d say to them that this is 2012, and women have options now. There is no shame in using what is available to you, if it means a more relaxed mother and birthing experience.

    Many people (although not my OBGYN or GP, interestingly) said that the recovery is worse with a CS, but I was up and walking the next day. I had to take it easy for a few weeks, but that’s a very short amount of time in the grand scheme of life. And I’d much prefer that to having a torn vagina and traumatic memories that would stay with me for life.

    Everyone is different, I’m sure there are people who’ve had bad recoveries from CS, but I’m just putting my positive experience out there for others to consider when making the decision.

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    • Amandarose

      She was talking a tummy tuck thrown in- I imagine that would magnify the pain and increase the risk of infection. Also a general instead of and epidural
      Would have more side effects post birth.

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      • Rebecca

        No self respecting surgeon would do a tummy tuck straight after birth as your uterus is swollen and they wouldn’t know how much to remove. They wouldn’t be able to ‘tuck’ the tummy without ‘tucking’ the uterus which isn’t generally done. Also gynos/obs don’t tend to do tummy tucks plastic and reconstructive surgeons do.

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  6. zepgirl

    I think if you’re that afraid of childbirth that you’re better off seeking counselling for the fear, rather than just making your mind up about having a caeser. The reason being, you don’t know when you might go into labour. There’s the possibility that you might have a labour that’s so quick (or so preterm) that there’s no time for a caesarean and be absolutely petrified out of your wits and feel totally out of control. That’s a situation just asking for PTSD (and believe me, I’ve seen it happen). I think you’re better off dealing with the fear. You can still book an elective caeser after that.

    For my part, going on the assumption that I’m healthy and my baby is healthy, I’ll be at home with a couple of midwives, my partner some support people. I could not and would not have a birth in hospital unless medically indicated.

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    • Faybian

      Definitely agree. A friend of mine planned to have a non medical elective caesar for her first and had a 30 week baby vaginally. She still insisted on having the 2nd via caesarian, but later admitted that the first birth wasn’t as bad as she’d imagined it and just different to the caesarian, not worse.

      We’re so far removed from labour and birth these days that they’re seen as scarier than they actually are.

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  7. Soso

    This would have been a situation where the line “no vagina, no opinion” would have been ideal.

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  8. Kate

    I just want to say that I completely relate to your experience with the douchebag ex. I once accidentally farted in front of my ex and he was so livid. Basically told me that women didn’t do that sort of thing and to never do that again. That was the start of a downhill slope revealing hugely differing views about women and their place in society. I dumped him shortly thereafter. Woo!

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    • Kelly Slater (not the surfer)

      Ha ha ha!!! Good on you, Kate! xxo

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    • Teal

      I hope you farted as you walked out the door after dumping him Kate!

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  9. Amandarose

    I Think your views of child birth are a bit simple. ou may avoid the pain of labour but I hear the after effects of having a hole cut in your stomach especially with a tummy tuck added would be excruciating.
    I say why over think it until your pregnant and faced with real decisions with plenty of information.
    I had two births- one with a epidural( a good choice seeing your pain adverse) and one without. the without was ot by choice rather lack of Dr at right time to give me the epidural. And while it was painful it was worth it as I could walk and have a shower and feel normal after the birth. it was not an option of my choice and it did work out ok.
    I say chill about the whole thing for now and reconsider your options at the time it matters . I am sure either way it will be fine – just have your expectations in line with reality to avoid trauma

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  10. Anonymous

    Do whatever you want regarding having your baby but please stop comparing childbirth to things like having a limb amputated without anaesthetic (the implication being that it’s only something only an idiot would do?). I’ve had 2 babies without pain relief. I once had my hand slammed in a car door and that was more painful than my experiences of childbirth. Obviousy it’s different for different women but it’s not fair to make out that every woman who chooses vaginal birth is some kind of idiot. I’ll respect your choices if you respect mine.

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    • cher

      I’ve had a baby without pain relief too – but I’d cut a limb off before I did that again!!

      I had no idea such levels of pain existed. Never. Again.

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    • Rebecca

      For me kidney stones were worse than child birth. I though someone was stabbing me with an electric cattle prod!

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  11. Sigh

    Good for you.
    Knowing what you want for your body and your baby.

    You will not destroy your vagina pushing too long after being left for hours ‘to see how you go’, you won’t tear and/or be cut and then have difficulty with sex for years and years afterwards.

    You won’t have to have your beautiful baby ripped out at the last minute leaving him with bruises and cuts and what I always imagined must have been the biggest headache of his life.

    You won’t cry when they tell you the next day – ‘you really should have had a c-section’ – because you knew it, but stupidly, trusted the medical professionals taking ‘care’ of you to know more.

    Stand your ground, for some women (the only ones that can comment) it is as far from ‘natural’ as you can get.

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    • Rebecca

      I don’t understand why women who didn’t have the negative experience you had, can’t comment. Surely a range of experiences and opinions are necessary in the making of a decision. I was glad to hear the positive experiences a swell as the negative as it made me less scared. If I only heard the negative ones I would have been terrified.

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      • Sigh

        Women (not obnoxious ex boyfriends) are the only ones that can comment.

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    • Rebecca

      Not everyone who has a vaginal birth has this experience just as not everyone ho has a csection has a positive one.

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  12. Mum of Three

    I had an unplanned c-sect and it was so great, I opted to have a planned one for my twins.
    Not everyone has a hard recovery, I was up and walking the same afternoon. The scar is barely visible now.
    After 24 hours of labour pains at the end of my first pregnancy, I would absolutely have another c-sect over that!
    Good on you for knowing what you want, but be open to changing your mind as well!

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  13. Agree

    I’m 35 weeks pregnant with my first child and have choosen an elective c-section for the birth. I realise it’s not for everyone and there is a longer recovery time, but I am absolutely comfortable with my choice. As my Obstetrician says – doesn’t matter how you do it, the goal is the same, to deliver a healthy baby.

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  14. Gee Gee

    I don’t really understand this attitude. If a c-section is required for medical reasons then obviously a woman should proceed with a c-section. But I don’t really understand c-sections by choice. Labour might be painful but its only a short period of time and I’m sure you’d manage it. There are a whole host of reasons why a vaginal birth benefits a baby.

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    • Stevie

      Such as?

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      • Anonymous

        The list is extensive and I’m sure most pregnant women are provided that information in the classes before labour but include lower respiratory problems for bubs, protective bacteria by going through the birth canal, greater chance of successful breast feeding etc.

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      • Zepgirl

        Better chance that they’ll breathe on their own, higher levels of adrenalin so that they’re more ‘awake’, apgars are statistically higher, prolactin released faster into the mother’s blood stream so milk comes in faster, far easier to have a breastfeed within one hour (which statistically increases the chance of long term breastfeeding), lesser chance of allergies as baby comes into contact with mother’s bowel flora, skin to skin bonding immediately in most cases, baby and mother not parted when mother is in recovery room (although some hospitals will allow the baby to stay with mother, but most don’t), lesser chance that baby will have to be admitted to special care nursery

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  15. Melanie

    Anyway, I have always fully intended to have a c section when it comes time to have babies. I don’t know why, but I have serious birth anxiety. As soon as someone starts talking or I see footage of birth on TV I feel like I have a weight pushing on my chest and I start to gasp for air. I once just bawled my eyes out watching someone get an epidural. Which is really strange because I’ve had broken limbs, many needles, injuries and a high pain threshold. There’s just something about the bone shifting agony of a human being coming through your pelvis that doesn’t sit well with me (and yes, I KNOW women have been doing it for a thousand years as my rude mother in law has pointed out several times).
    Most people stick their noses up at me and act very rude towards my choices when I mention them. Quite frankly I wouldn’t care if you pulled your baby out your nose, as long as bub and mum are healthy, happy and well looked after.
    Tomorrow I am having surgery to remove pre cancerous cells from my cervix. It’s not a massive deal but it may affect my cervix’s ability to stretch during vaginal labour meaning I will need a c-section. I wonder if people’s opinions will change now i have a ‘genuine medical condition’ needing a c-section and not a ‘lazy attitude’

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    • Kelly Slater (not the surfer)

      Good Luck for your surgery tomorrow, Melanie!!! Hope it all goes well xo

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      • Melanie

        Just got discharged a few hours ago and I’m good as gold. Nurses had to stop me jumping out of bed as soon as I woke. And no blood or pain. Just reaffirms my wish for a c-section. I’m obviously a good healer and deal so well with anesthetic that they were happy to send me home and not need to observe me overnight

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  16. Amanda

    I had a 24hr posterior birth, complete with epidural, vacuum delievery and tears that required stitches.

    That said, I wasn’t excruciating pain. I’d put it in the “very, very uncomfortable” category and only for the last part. I love my baby to bits – but I don’t count the day I went into labour as my favourite day ever. (Every day since though!)

    Labour is generally endurable. :)

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    • twomummies

      Wow sounds exactly like my birth experience right up until the part where you said the pain wasn’t excruciating! I also had rigors and now I am pretty sure PTSD from the whole event.

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  17. sarah

    You’re not alone at all.

    I’m quite well informed about the pros and cons of natural birth and c-section and I’ve decided I want a c-section. Its the option I feel more comfortable with.

    Like you, I’ve received judgemental looks for not wanting to go natural but I figure its nobodys business except mine and my partner.

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    • Anonymous

      I think every womans choice should be nobodys business but theirs and their partners. C-sections, vaginal deliveries, water births, home births, whatever.

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  18. Anon

    What amazes me is that women have more than one child! I’ve never seen anyone in so much pain as when my beautiful wife was giving birth.

    I’d advocate for every method possible to reduce the pain and danger of childbirth.

    Really, the important issues are getting a healthy baby and mother, whatever choice you go with is entirely yours. If anyone tells you different, tell them to push a pineapple through a pinhole.

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  19. Lily

    I wanted to do it vaginally but be drugged up to the eyeballs, thank you, and wake up with my clean baby in my arms, perfectly made up face and a glass of champagne in the other.

    The reality was drug-free (too fast), painful and completely mind blowing. I don’t speak for every woman but I can say with certainty that the process of birthing a baby and all the pain and muck and everything that went through it altered me forever. I just wasn’t the same person afterwards. I had not only a beautiful baby but a newfound respect for my body and what it is capable of. And, even though I used to cringe at this earth motherly expression, the only word for it is empowering. Second time around, I will be going into it with a completely different philosophy. I am woman, hear me roar (in agony)!

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  20. Laws for Clouds

    Good on you for knowing what you want! That is very womanly indeed and you’ll be no more or less of a woman whather your baby comes out the traditional exit or the sunroof.

    But…

    If it’s just pain you can have an epidural. But if it’s to keep your lady parts in tact you might need to consider adoption, because the pelvic floor is damaged during pregnancy. Obviously you won’t tear having a c-section though!

    Frankly, I’ve given birth vaginally (admittedly easy births, if things go badly the recovery can be worse than after a c-section) and I’ve had abdominal surgery, and I can say for sure that the childbirth was much less painful. I had the abdominal surgery pre-children when I could rest after too!

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  21. Twisted Sister

    God on you Rosie for knowing what you want and being strong enough to back yourself and your decision! It is your body afterall :)

    I have given birth vaginally twice without drugs and I have to admit I was adamant that I try to do that as I really wanted to experience labour and all the pain and emotions that go along with it. That was MY decision and I am really happy with it.

    Having said that I COMPLETELY support any woman who fears or is just simply not interested in going through that. You are right. The only thing that matters in the end is that the mother and baby are healthy and happy x

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    • Twisted Sister

      I should add of course that I was just lucky that I got to do it the way I wanted to. In the event of complications I would have, of course, had a c section had it been necessary :)

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  22. The wounded bull

    You do realise that a c section has a more significant recovery period dont you, as in, no lifting or driving for weeks, which can be difficult given that you are bringing a baby home.

    Further, havibg a c section makes subsequent natural or c section births more risky.

    While I respect any womans opinion in this regard, I am not sure you are seeing the full picture here.

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    • Dee of Adelaide

      It can have a longer recovery, but not necessarily. By the 10 day mark of both of mine I didn’t even know I’d had them.

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    • Sarah

      It sounds to me like she’s pretty informed about her choice.

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    • zacchy

      I’ve had 3 Caesars but only the last was planned so have been through labour twice. I have recovered very fast on each occasion, it hurt to laugh for a few days but that was it. I drove and carried around babies and toddlers as soon as I was home five days after the birth. I remember the early childhood nurse saying “You have a baby and a toddler, you are going to be doing some lifting!”
      Obviously everyone has different recovery periods but some natural births take longer to get over than some Caesars. Honestly the engorged breasts and sore nipples were worse than the scar pain. Also there is no “massive gash on your stomach” more like a 15 cm scar (in my pubic hair- one benefit to maintaining some hair!) that fades to a white line.

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      • Jenny

        Yes I had 2 c sections and they were fine. It was annoying trying to breasfeed attached to all that stuff for the first 24 hours but it wasn’t painful.

        It will only be painful if you dont keep on top of your meds. I had a laparoscopy 7 weeks ago and that f******g hurt. Way worse than a c section. That trapped gas is awful! And my belly button is still not healed properly.

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        • Bel

          Thank goodness it wasn’t just me! I had a c-section with my son (breech) a few years ago and that was a bit of a shock as it was the first surgery I’d ever had.

          However, I too had a laparoscopy this year and the pain from the gas was out of this world. My poor husband had to readmit me to hospital due to the unbearable pain. I kept telling myself that I’d been through a C and this was nothing compared to that, but the pain was just different. And you’re right, the scars seem worse too.

          If we manage a second child sometime in the future, I’ve no qualms about the c-section again!

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          • saydoula

            I had 2 c-sections followed by 2 vaginal births. All being well I would always have a vaginal birth, would only go c-section if there was a clear medical need. Yes, it is a woman’s individual choice but that needs to be very well informed. The problem is that most care providers give very biased info and we don’t realise it. Women also lack continuity of care during labour and birth from someone experienced in normal birth, works independently of any hospital and is known to the women (having a private OB is not continuity, you’re lucky so see them for 5 mins of labour and many don’t even get to the birth). We also have pathetic, inadequate ante-natal education so we fear birth because we don’t understand it and are not taught skills to help us cope better. Want a good birth – get educated, get independent support, take care of yourself during pregnancy and learn skills that will help you to cope better during the experience. After all it’s called ‘labour’, it is hard work but one would not run a marathon without a solid preparation so do the same for childbirth.

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