by MIA FREEDMAN
Alan Jones is sick of you bullying him. Please stop.
Wait, what? I listened to Alan Jones‘ show yesterday morning after reading that the station which employs him, 2GB, has taken the unprecedented step of pulling all advertising (what’s left of it) from his program.
My ears nearly fell off but I was curious to see how it would go down. A commercial show without commercials. There was lots of coverage of his charity work and many people ringing in to tell him how much they loved him and rail against the ‘ratbags’ who are uptight about ‘that little thing you said which you apologised for straight away’.
In between, Alan was full of bluff and bluster. He also corrected a listener who called him a ‘legend’, insisting “No, just a battler”. ( I’ll ignore that because it defies comprehension.)
According to news reports:
Alan Jones. Victim.
Jones opened his show at 5.30am saying Australians had the right to boycott his show, but they did not have the right to decide where companies can advertise.
“They do not have the right to interfere with that freedom of choice, or should not… and they don’t have the right, or should not, have the right to attempt cyberbullying of people who listen to this program or advertise on it.”
Jones said his comments about the Prime Minister had not been civilised, but he had apologised for what he said. “These false petitions are anything but civilised. The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
“This is, as I said, a forensic campaign based on petitioning businesses. Virtually jamming up emails, jamming up switchboards, trying any threatening tactic they can to make businesses cease to be associated with this program.
“They get hold of the sponsors, they provide a direct link to the complaints section and then you sit in front of a button and you go all day. Businesses have great difficulty doing business while withstanding that stuff, but they shouldn’t have to.
“If this is not illegal, it ought to be. As I said, if it happened anywhere else in society, this kind of bullying or harassment or intimidation or threatening conduct, the police would be called in.
“If it happened at a rugby league grand final, if it happened at a restaurant, or a picture theatre, this behaviour would not be condoned.”
Alan’s rolling outrage in the past few days has been palpable and authentic. He is genuinely wounded. Baffled by this turn of events.
It often goes this way when tables are turned and someone with immense power sees what it’s like to feel the intense heat of a public backlash.
A while back I wrote about this phenomenon.
About how sometimes, when you push boundaries, they push back. And if you’ve built your career on boundary-pushing, an unexpected push-back can knock you flat on your arse.
Just ask Kyle Sandilands. Gordan Ramsay. Matty Johns. Bill Henson. You’d struggle to think of a more disparate group but they’ve all been knocked on their bums at some stage after inadvertently poking a sharp stick through their own bubble and into the eye of mainstream public opinion.
In each case, the backlash has been overwhelming and merry hell has rained down on their heads. In each case, their shock has appeared genuine. And why wouldn’t it be?

Shocked: Gordon Ramsay
I don’t understand, Gordan Ramsay probably said after he was slammed for insulting Tracey Grimshaw. I’ve always been an abusive, sexist loud-mouth.
I don’t understand, Bill Henson probably said. I’ve always photographed naked children.
I don’t understand, Matty Johns probably said. Footy players have always had group sex.
I don’t understand, Kyle Sandilands probably said. I’ve always channeled Jerry Springer and Howard Stern.
It’s what we DO, they probably cried. And until now, people clapped and cheered and never told us to stop.
You can almost see why they were so perplexed.
And so it is with Alan Jones who is probably shaking his head and saying, ‘But I’ve always excoriated Julia Gilard and other public figures (often women) in the most vile, vicious and obsessive way.’

SHOCKED: Matty Johns
In the face of such extreme public anger and media castigation, some boundary pushers have understood faster than others that they’ve gone too far. Some remorse has been heartfelt and sincere while other apologies have been cynical and made at gunpoint, motivated by spin-doctors and a mercenary desire to secure future earnings. Hello Alan Jones.
Behind the scenes, I’d guess many remain quietly defiant, seething that they’re suddenly being held accountable for things they’ve done freely for years.
Alan’s defiance isn’t quiet. He’s openly calling those who object to his modus operandi, ‘bullies’. Which means by definition, he must be the victim. Really.
Success is a potent filter. Even if you don’t ask it to, it can quarantine you from criticism and perspective. You become insulated in your world. Money comes easily. So do opportunities. People say yes to you a lot.
This doesn’t make you a bad person, just one who can become dangerously out of touch with what the majority of society finds acceptable. So when your insulated world collides with the world most other people live in, things can become really ugly really quickly.
I know this because I’ve been there – on a vastly smaller scale, thankfully. Several times during my years as a magazine editor, I was sent reeling from a public backlash I’d inadvertently triggered, usually by doing something I’d done many times before.
Two of the biggest pushbacks I experienced were for things I’d considered so humdrum as to not even raise an eyebrow in my mind let alone a red flag.
The first time was when I used Photoshop to change the colour of a cover model’s dress. I’d done things far worse without consequence. But on this occasion, a rival magazine released the original image to draw attention to the change and when it ignited a story on a slow news day, I was inundated with furious feedback from readers. This baffled me. It was just a dress, wasn’t it? I hadn’t changed her skin colour or body shape. Why the fuss?
Eventually I got the message. It turns out readers don’t like being deceived, not even in seemingly innocuous ways. It makes them wonder how else you’re deceiving them. Having inhabited The Land Of The Altered Image for so long, my view on such things had been radically recalibrated without me even realising it.
The second big boundary pushback was oral sex’s fault. If you’re even vaguely familiar with Cosmo or Cleo, you’ll be aware that sex in all its flavours is as ubiquitous in those mags as beauty tips and relationship advice. It’s been that way for decades.
And editing such a magazine, when your job requires you to conduct regular sealed-section meetings with your staff…well, your views on how acceptable it is to discuss sex can become a little warped.

The oral sex cover of Cosmo
That’s how I came to be the public face of smut after customer complaints about an overly raunchy coverline prompted several supermarkets to yank Cosmo from sale. I then had to front the media to defend my magazine while pretending to be sorry. Privately, I was once again baffled. One part of me (the mother part who stood in supermarket queues with a small child) understood the outrage but I was still confused.
I’d worked on magazines that had run more explicit stories. Hey, I’d run far worse myself dozens of times. This one was standard stuff and it was sealed so what was the problem? Once again it took me a while to realise I’d been caught napping. While I was sequestered in mag land where life is a rainbow of weird, public standards of decency had shifted underneath me. To the right. What was fine a decade ago, suddenly wasn’t. I’d pushed a boundary to sell magazines and the boundary had replied in no uncertain terms, “Oi! Back off bitch!” And so I did.
And that’s the point. If you want to be paid to push boundaries – like Alan Jones has been for decades - you’d better listen when they push you back.
UPDATE: Just to clarify, do I believe Alan Jones should be sacked? No. But I do believe this incident (simply the latest in an established pattern of behaviour over years, even decades of his career) should serve as a recalibration for Alan Jones. Society is pushing back. Society is saying, we’re not prepared to accept this level of rudeness and personal viciousness in public debate. Society is saying, put your manners back in. Say what you want, make your point, but do it politely.






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Genuine question- but what is the difference between this boycott and that of yumi, which you condemned? Instinctively I feel the same way, for some reason THAT felt like a witch hunt and THIS feels like a victory of the people, but I can see that is hypocritical.
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It’s all about grabbing the ratings. Why was an inhouse ‘young liberal’ function filmed at the time of his speech, on a mobile phone and released to the media?To invoke outrage!
There was a call from media and the public to take this person’s voice away from radio and yet the day it was headline news they gave him a press confrence on national television to excuse his bad behaviour?
Possibly Jonesy didn’t realise how ruthless it is to be in the political game of you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.
The best way to silence someone like that is don’t tune in or respond to their rantings. After all silence is golden…
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Whilst I was furious at the actions of this sad, overpaid, overconfident windbag, it seems that his inflammatory comments were fuel to the fire that led to the marvellous display put on by the PM yesterday.
Jones got a taste of his own medicine. He didn’t like it it. What an amazing surprise. And they took his car away. Awww. Diddums. I suppose an on air petulant spray was the appropriate response for this action in Jones World.
Suck it up, Jones. You’ve behaved badly for years and now the people are speaking. Get the wax out of your ears and listen.
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Mmmmm a recalibration of Alan Jones? I seriously doubt he has the introspect necessary to make any real meaningful changes to his rank and misogynistic ways. If you ask me, this is the pot boiling after a long simmer and people just can’t forgive and move on. Times up on the old school sexist boys club members (watch the link of Julia Gillard tearing apart Tony Abbott for his sexist behaviour)!! Society has evolved and will no longer tolerate blatant anti-feminist behaviour or mentality. The time has passed for Alan Jones to put his manners back in, it’s time to hang the hat up says I.
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Well said Mia.
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I need help. I’m an old bloke, but as I live out of range. I can’t listen to Alan but his views are often expressed on TV or in the written media. Now a couple of weeks ago I saw on TV and in the paper people of middle Eastern Appearance wanting to behead people who insulted their prophet- I thought it disgraceful and so did everyone else (I bet Alan had a lot to say about it too)
But not all that long ago I read where Alan Jones quite seriously said that our PM, Julia should be put in a chaff bag and dropped out to sea. Now the result of beheading and being drowned at sea is the same, it’s just the method that differs.
So what I need answered is this?- Is it not OK to behead people you disagree with but it’s OK to Drown them. Is beheading a cruel, barbaric, medieval, Middle Eastern Thing to do but drowning people in Chaff bags the Australian way (we do it to unwanted kittens)
Maybe Alan is a true blue Aussie and he may have solved the mystery of the disappearance of Harold Holt- perhaps it could become a tradition in the way we deal with our PMs
I’d love to know what all those erudite people out there think.
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i’ve been wondering EXACTLY the same thing.
It was also reported that he said that she was cause for them to bring back the guillotine- an aparatus used for beheadings. So to lay this out on an even field, the protest banners and mr jones both called for beheadings, but where the banners called for betrayers of allah (a non-specific group) to be beheaded, jones specified Gillard, which to me seems much more scary and vicious. Jones’ words were seemingly forgotten when people were outraged about the protest banners .. But then he’s white Australia, different rules for him..
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Another insightful article on Alan Jones
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/prissy-shrieks-of-fear-and-loathing-20121005-274a2.html
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Is there any difference between what these people are doing to Alan Jones and those that put similar pressure on business like Nike to stop using sweat shops some years ago. Everyone has the right to say if you are prepared to support a particular stance then we are going to excercise our right to tell you that we don’t like it and are going to let you know it.
Having said that I can not condone employees’ of these organisations being abused.
In my opinion why we are seeing the standards of etiquette in society in general declining is that we accept the way that the radio shock jocks speak to those they interview and their callers.
You are right Mia society is pushing back and about time.
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And just like all the others… Their ratings have gone up lol
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Oh Mia you said it. I wish i had your words (and your humour!). Brilliant observations.
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It really annoys me how he is making himself out like the victim, and talking about these ‘faceless’ people whom are campaigning against him, like he’s so brave and courageous, sitting in front of his microphone in a radio station somewhere- all he seems to do is insult other people with his own bigoted opinions. I’m all for freedom of speech and pushing boundaries, but he has definitely gone too far, and it’s nice to see people stand up to him. I have not spoken to ONE person that believes what he has said was ok. He is an arrogant sexist that really needs to take a step back and think about the events of the last couple of weeks. I mean REALLY think about them.
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When you stop and think about this issue with a clear head…..yes, Jones IS the victim of cyberbullying.
Some people just choose to change the meaning of the term or word when is suits them. So I can see why those most guilty of cyberbullying are the most kean and earnest to claim that they are not.
My comment by no means excuses Jones for his recent comments.
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He’s coping some bullying for sure, but Alan Jones is no victim.
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what jones said was wrong, and his apology was a travesty,
but,
i would worry that advocating boycotts against advertisers might be restriction of trade and/or classed as a secondary boycott (there are legal remedies companies can take for such things)
i would also worry that advocating harassment using any carriage service (phone, email or post) might see the person advocating those actions prosecuted under commonwealth laws specifically prohibiting using carriage services for harassment,
and possibly people who participate may also be subject to prosecution.
you can stop using a companies services, and you can let them know why, But letting them know at the exact same time as tens of thousands of other people could be rightly viewed as a cyber or criminal attack on the company, and there are legal remedies for that as well.
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His apology is a travesty? Goodness me, how gracious of you.
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Yeh, a battler who drives a brand newish Mercedes Benz?
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Not anymore
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Fantastic article Mia, loved it. Too true! So obvious when you think about it yet I hadn’t. Thankyou.
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A close family member of mine and his employer spent the better half of last year being reviled by Alan jones on his radio show at least 3-4 times a week.
This was despite efforts from my family member to contact researchers at the radio station, provide accurate information on the subject matter and agree to be interviewed on air, all offers of which were rejected by Alan Jones and 2GB.
Instead the insults flowed week after week with no facts stated and no opportunity to respond. It got so bad this family member would regularly get phone calls from concerned friends and relatives to check on their welfare and how they were “holding up” amidst the barage of crap that was sprouted on 2GB on a weekly basis.
Eventually after many months, it was someone else’s turn and the tirade began to wane.
So sorry Alan, please don’t complain about how awful it is that you feel you are now being bullied. Instead you should feel grateful that at least you have a platform from which you can respond to your “so-called” bullies, something that is denied to those that you take aim at.
People in glass houses………….
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I heard on a news report that Jones is a part owner of 2GB, so I don’t think there’s any surprises there.
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That sounds awfully like KARMA.
Poor Alan… He can dish it out but sure as hell can’t take it.
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If Jons and his ilk had any integrity they would have given your colleague a right to answer the criticism heaped out. They can give it but they can’t take it. I hope your friends are okay.
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Mr Suki says ” it’s like pissing into the wind, you always get your own back”.
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I believe that the companies who pulled all advertising from his show, were just as disgusted with his comments as the majority of Australians were. The speed at which they pulled out was astounding to say the least. I don’t believe they were harassed into leaving, they bailed because it was the right thing to do.
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The bailed because they thought it would affect the bottom line.
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It would be nice if he learned from this. If he took the time to consider his career and perhaps announced that he would try and be more constructive in his future dealings etc…
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The fact that public opinion DOES move makes me have more faith in society’s capacity to deal with powerful bullies such as Jones. It’s obviously a shock to him that those thousands of people who have disliked his bullying manner have found a very public way of voicing their opinion – without having to listen to him or try to disagree with him by phoning in. Times change and he’s yesterday’s man. I don’t want to see him sacked; I’d just like him to fade slowly but steadily into disappointed obscurity …. a variation on Paul Keating’s “do you slowly”.
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this has not given me faith in society- rather the opposite. It shows how easily pele can be manipulated into jumping on a hate wagon.
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I think decent people everywhere were shocked by the comment. Even in today’s politically charged environment, it was a staggering inhumane comment.
Rather than people being easily manipulated, this comment was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Alan has been brewing bad blood across the community for decades. His comment that women have no place in the political process several weeks ago riled enough people, but it didn’t break the back because women’s rights issues don’t tend to galvanise the whole community. Public figures are expected, even required, to roll with the punches and keep going on.
But everyone’s got a Dad, you know? The comment literally gave most people pause at its sheer brutality.
So it’s not just the regular people who put skin in the game crying foul, it’s the regular folk saying ‘hang on just a tick’. He could have stemmed it with a genuine apology, but he went on the attack, compared himself to the Anzacs and has generally shown zero remorse.
This isn’t a hate wagon. It is a popular movement against the guy who always tries to be the leader of popular movements.
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Excellent comment, completely agree.
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Hi Amandarose, I don’t see it as people being easily manipulated to jump on the hate bandwagon at all. There are some lines you don’t cross. When someone dies, you don’t turn to the family and say, they died of shame because of you. That’s crossing the line, and most people have enough decency not to do it.
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I don’t think people were jumping on the bandwagon. Over recent times people have realised that with the internet and social media they can fight back against people who already have a platform to give their opinions. It’s the little guys fighting back. 20 years ago Alan Jones would have got away scott free.
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In relation to Kate Hunter’s excellent piece the other day, I think the outrage has being vicious, aggressive and classless.
Sure he has a big mouth, but the vitriol I have seen in the last week has surpassed anything I’ve ever heard him utter. The literal calls for his head on a stick are just sickening and shameful. He is getting his just desserts, but what so of the people making threats to him?
Discussion has turned to left vs right, free speech vs censorship and the left completely blindeying their own mouth pieces, whilst the right scramble to put distance between any perceived ownership of Jones’ statements.
It’s been interesting, but boy have both sides of the political divide being exposed as hypocrites.
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Loved Turnbull’s comments last night – Alan Jones isn’t a victim, he’s just getting a dose of his own medicine.
Turnbull also turned it into a clever argument against media regulation, saying the new power shift where individual voices combine (through social media) to shout down even the most powerful man in radio shows that there is a new method for social regulation.
Dinosaurs like Alan can either shape up to society’s expectations of decency, or ship out. So far, he can’t make seem to connect the dots here, as his daily vitriol confirms.
Free speech isn’t under threat. He’s not going to be arrested or charged with anything. But after years of telling people “You don’t like us, change the channel and plenty of sponsors pay me to talk” everyone finally got the message: target the sponsors.
There’s no point baying at those making money off Alan to change their ways, or the government to do something (which would be censorship) – but you can target the advertisers.
Sure, they want Alan Jones’ 150,000 listeners but they don’t want to lose five million customers disgusted at Alan’s inhumanity and may associate their brand with it.
You can say whatever you want. Cross the line and market forces will fix it. Now THAT’S freedom.
The right should be lining up and cheering.
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“You can say whatever you want. Cross the line and market forces will fix it. Now THAT’S freedom”
Love this. My thoughts exactly
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No that’s capitalism
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Agreed, It is also capitalism, or more freedom in action using capitalism as a tool.
I’d rather movements of decent people resolve issues of public civility than a government criminalising being offensive any day of the week.
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“The right should be lining up and cheering.”
The right just got an upsmack from Adam Smith’s invisible hand and now they cry foul. Oh the irony!
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Just read Annabel Crabb’s article on the Jones apology and another appalling incident from the weekend age (sick kids…I’ve just had time now) MASTERFUL
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To quote Mia Freedman from Wednesday 7 March 2012 11:22am… to point out the hypocrisy of the supporting Yumi Steynes and her offensive comments whilst berating Alan Jones: Maybe this is what Mia should now say.
“Enough is enough. (Yumi) Alan made a mistake. (She) He continues to pay a terrible and very public price. What do (her) his attackers want? Has (she) he not been punished enough? I believe (she) he has. (She) He cannot be any more sorry. (She) He cannot take (her) his words back anymore. It’s time to move on.
Please remember that the people you see on TV, the people whose words you read in the newspaper or hear on the radio, these are real people. By all means disagree with their words and debate their actions but resorting to sickening, sustained abuse is the lowest, most base and appalling form of engagement.
Be better than that.”
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Yumi made a joke that (some) people took offence at. Alan was not joking. Big difference.
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It was a repugnant, offensive slur against a Victoria Cross winner. I personally object more strongly against insulting an Australian hero than poor taste political comments. I agree with Smithy about the hypocrisy.
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Just so I’m clear, saying a guy looks like he might be a dud root is more personally objectionable to you than telling someone their actions caused their Dad to die of shame?
Please confirm this is what you meant.
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I see your point. The difference between Yumi and Alan is that Alan has built his career on being deliberately rude and offensive over decades. His vile comments relating to PM Julia Gillard and other female politicians go way back. Yumi on the other hand said something stupid and offhand, once.
And if I recall correctly the abuse hurled at her was threatening and disgusting (comments about her appearance, children and family etc).
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Alan Jones made the longest non apology ever. In 45 minutes he managed to avoid ever saying the word “sorry”, but someone worked in the pink batts scheme and the carbon tax into his “apology”.
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Just like Howard and his lack of apology to the stolen generation! These dinosaurs need to learn the meaning of contrition.
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Great article, really enjoyed it.
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Given how many times he has been charged with defamation and had legal action taken against him for comments made, I hardly think this kind of reaction would be that baffling to Jones. The public has, for a long time now, been making it’s perception of these type of comments very well known (the examples you gave of Kyle Sandilands etc). This type of reaction was inevitable – for too long Jones has been too arrogant to take the public’s opinions into consideration, nor intelligent enough to think before he speaks……
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How many times has he been charged with defamation?
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Lisa, how many times?
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I am so tired of outspoken media types making outrageous comments and then being defended with a mass chorus of supporters shouting “oh, but it’s freedom of speech”. Yes freedom of speech is the cornerstone of our wonderful democracy. You have “freedom of speech”, just like I have the freedom to critically evaluate, analyse and respond to your “speech”.
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Me too! And the most hypocritical part of it is that the ones who cry “freedom of speech” were the first ones to get angry about the Islamic protests in Sydney the other week.
They’re happy with freedom of speech – as long as it only goes to THEIR boundaries.
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“We have the right to free speech but it doesn’t absolve us of the responsibility of what we are saying”
I used to have this quote on my desk as a (missed) pointed statement to a rather rude and opinionated work colleague.
Can’t remember where I heard the quote now…
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“We have the right to free speech…”
It must have been an American quote. The Australian Constitution does not codify an *overt* right to free speech.
Having said that, yes, exercising free speech comes with responsibilities.
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I have copied the email below I received from Gary Johnstons Jaycar in response to my complaint in relation to his sexist comments. There has not been a large outcry, or a demand to boycott the business, I guess this is because of the nature of the business and women would be in the minority as customers. The email is quite long, stick with it as its worth the read as another example of someone in power that does not understand we have had social & intelluctual revolutions in the last 50 years.
I am sending this form letter to you because of criticism directed to me as a result of an incident at Belmore Oval on Monday Oct 1.
Whether your email to me was critical or supportive (thank you!) I am sending the same letter.
The incident was triggered because Channel 9 saw fit to monitor a private function for the bulldogs. They were not invited. (Neither was I). The front gate was closed and guarded.
Undeterred, they set themselves up in a public place across the road. Channel 7 were also there, along with others. Channel 9 also flew a helicopter over the site.
Given the limited access, I’m not sure what the media hoped to achieve.
At some point in the day a Channel 9 camera & sound recording device was pointed at an open window some 40-odd meters away. The sound recording device detected some conversation which when paired with the video of the window revealed no-one or no activity in the window. The audio quality of the sound was so poor that Channel 9 had to add subtitles to the audio to make it comprehensible.
As a person associated with the Bulldogs (peripherally) I was asked by a Sydney Morning Herald reporter to comment. An article appeared in the SMH on Tuesday morning. I was asked by staff from the Ben Fordham radio show to be interviewed by him on Tuesday afternoon. I reluctantly agreed.
At this stage Channel 9 had taken it upon themselves to ASSUME that the amplified conversation from the window was directed at them, specifically a female reporter, Jane Azzopardi.
The reason I decided to talk to Ben was that I thought it might be an opportunity to present to the public via 2GB an alternative hypothesis that indeed has more credibility than the conceited speculation of Channel 9. (Channel 7, with similar material, closed their site down & abandoned the exercise.)
It was apparent from my opening conversation with Ben (Ben also works for Channel 9) that he simply wanted to demonise the Canterbury players for making such foul remarks to a female.
I rather clumsily pointed out that there may have been an alternative explanation i.e. that the conversation was NOT directed out of the window, but to another party inside the complex. This does not make what was said acceptable – it is wrong & appalling. But it changes the complexion on the issue completely. Remember it is possible that the conversation may have been illegally obtained & that parties inside the building would have been unaware that they were being observed & their conversation recorded.
The rather ugly statements, when analysed could be interpreted as being partly directed to a male as well.
I then tried to communicate to Ben that if that was indeed the case, you can hear ugly statements like this directed at women in pubs all over Sydney. I made it clear that I was as disgusted as anyone by this, but it is a fact of life. Ben skillfully interpreted this as a supporting statement for this behaviour.
A Canterbury official tried to calm the situation down by sending flowers to Azzopardi. This could be interpreted as an admission of guilt.
The fact that a Canterbury official had a “knee jerk” reaction to apologise to Channel 9 is irrelevant. They instinctively apologise to anyone who criticises them!
I am privy to an audit made by a security expert who has examined ALL of the Channel 9 footage and footage of internal video from the Belmore complex as well as other material. This report is to ultimately go to the NRL.
He has concluded that there is almost nothing to back up Channel 9’s assertion that conversation was directed to them. Indeed, there is no corroborating video to identify any party who may have made the comments. (The footballers only represented a fraction of people at the function.)
Canterbury RL Club are approaching Channel 9 to seek an apology for the way that Channel 9 has “conveniently” interpreted this matter. I for one will be surprised if the Dogs get a reply. I would also like to see the NSW Attorney Generals Dept look into breaches of the Surveillance Devices Act 2007, Section 4.
As a person who is distressed where I see an injustice, I attempted to help clear the air on this matter.
I have been abused, threatened & described as sexist dinosaur over this. Let me make this clear. I am abhorred by the immature thuggish behaviour that young men exhibit towards young women that routinely occurs in pubs & other places. Even Ben Fordham, acknowledged this (but the media selectively edit my comments).
A prominent female Channel 9 staffer has even come out on the web supporting my right to say it like it is.
Finally, some of you have threatened to withdraw your patronage of Jaycar stores. This will only hurt hard working staff who need their jobs.
I personally don’t care whether you buy from us or not. I am financially independent. If you can’t see through a media beat up I don’t want you as a customer.
I know that this letter will simply convince some of you that I am as bad as you feared. For those of you who now see that I was defending the rights of some young blokes to have a well earned day off without do-gooders sticking their noses in, I hope this explanation helps.
Thank you for your interest
Gary Johnston
P.S. If you see my point why don’t you write to the Attorney Generals’ Dept and ask them to investigate Channel 9? The more the merrier.
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Johnston was doing so well….until what he said at the end. He just doesn’t get that it doesn’t matter who the ‘young blokes’ said it to, it’s that they said it at all. Football and sporting clubs seem to be a breeding ground for the sexist attitudes that these guys develop. Is it a way of creating bonding or something?? Who knows but what I do know is it keeps happening and guys like Johnston keep defending it as if they think we’ll just get over it. Johnston your workers are your responsibility, if we boycott Jaycar because we don’t like what YOU represent, then it is YOU who is hurting your workers. Stop letting your ‘young blokes’ talk about women this way, in private or public!!
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Alan Jones can’t believe ANYONE would dare criticise him. This is so funny to me, I have to admit to a case of schadenfreude (sp?). What he said was plain nasty, I find it difficult to comprehend why anyone would attempt to defend it. That should be the end of it, but of course it won’t be.
On a side note, the oral sex article in Cosmo was ultimately what made me call it a day for that mag. I was not offended at all, I just thought, if I don’t know how to do that by now I never will! I realised I had grown out of the mag and I was ready for something different. I guess in todays terms, something like Madison etc (which i enjoy). So, in a way, it was a coming (sorry) of age, thanks Mia!
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I’m sorry, but the so called backlash went too far, this type of thing is not good for our society, particularly when you have partitions advocating destroying or trashing.
Don’t like what Jones says? Don’t listen!
It is dangerous to advocate silencing someone who you do not like or who you don’t agree with, there are and have been systems like this before, see if you can think of some!
Yes this is politically driven, and yes the reaction seems FAR worse than what it really is because of the coverage, squeaky wheel and all that.
It reminds me of the recent Muslim (over)reaction to the Mohamed video. Just as the protestors violently protested against being called violent, these partitioners are using the very tactics against Jones that they say they hate so much………hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Reminds me of the Onion News headline:
Crazy Palestinian Gunman Angered By Stereotypes.
I laughed for half an hour in tears on that one.
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” It is dangerous to advocate silencing someone who you do not like…”
No-one is telling Jones himself to be silent. Jones can go on his merry way and say what he likes. If he is no longer on his radio show he loses the *privileged* access to a licensed and regulated radio frequency. Activists have targeted the radio station where it hurts most; sponsorship. If the sponsors are concerned about brand damage and the consequences to their bottom line, then that is their decision to make.
Yes, the right says the free market is all fun and good until the right gets hurt.
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Thanks for the personal, authentic touch. I think some of the conflict around Alan Jones is that misunderstanding. But I reckon it’s on a bigger scale than yours – it’s related to his whole life as a privileged male. It used to be okay – how come it’s not anymore?
You could have made it a very complex piece but you skillfully wrote it simply.
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Really interesting article about how the goal posts of public opinion can move and people like Alan Jones, who are behaving in exactly the same unacceptable way as they always have been are caught flat footed as a result.
I remember thinking about this when the News of the World phone hacking scandal blew up in the UK. For years they’d been doing this to celebs with an apathetic police force and government watching on, but when it came to tampering with the phone of a dead teenager, public outrage was ignited. Murdoch must have wondered why, this time, it couldn’t all be swept under the carpet just as it always had been before …
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As a student of Jenna Price for the past three years, I’ve always admired her strong demeanour. She is a tough, yet fair woman, who is not afraid to voice her opinion. The type of woman society should laud, and the type of woman Alan Jones (probably) most dislikes.
Off the back of her ‘Destroy the Joint’ campaign, Jenna has been threatened, demeaned and, to use the common phrase, ‘cyberbullied’. Yet she has remained strong, and has made Chris Smith from 2GB’s afternoon show sound a bit like a bumbling fool in this interview. For an example of extrordinary bravery, it’s well worth a listen:
http://podcasts.mrn.com.au.s3.amazonaws.com/chrissmith/20121008-jenna.mp3
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I disagree. She didn’t make Chris Smith sound like a fool at all. He sounded like a man watching his manners in the face of a shrew. My 10 year old daughter was in the back of the car and even she asked me to turn her off. Which I eventually did.
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Shrew? What an awful word to use.
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Just listened to it – thought she was firm and bright.
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of course your 10 year old asked to turn it off- when i was 10 i hated when the radio talked instead of sung too!
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No, anon, she is quite used to talkback. She was listening to Jenna Price and found her aggressive and annoying, and said so.
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She did make him sound like a fool. Not such a difficult thing to do though. What sort of mouthbreather uses the term “shrew”?
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I’m the mouth breather who used the term ‘shrew.’ What sort of shrew uses the term ‘mouth breather?’
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Great article Mia. I think it is also interesting to see how others have reacted too.. ie. Malcolm Turnbull, again, shows why he should be reinstated as the Lib’s leader: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/jones-has-not-been-bullied–turnbull-20121008-279cm.html
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I agree with the articles sentiments, but I have to remind you Mia of the backlash you received regarding your Cadel Evans comments.
You too claimed cyber bullying.
I’m no fan of Alan Jones, but from what I’ve read some of the backlash has been vicious. Why can you claim bullying and he can’t?
Genuine question!
Both of you have to put your opinions out there every day and have fans and detractors.
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Hey G,
Interesting point!
Alan can claim whatever he likes. I’m sure he does genuinely feel bullied and that his sponsors are being bullied. It can be a very subjective term.
When I spoke out about Cadel Evans, I got massive pushback from a small (but very vocal) group of people – cyclists. I accepted that the timing of my comments and the way they were expressed were misguided.
And I maintain that my original comments were neither vicious, vile, cruel or in the same league as this case.
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Well great article, this is a little breath of balance. I’m disappointed that so much of the anti-Jones sentiment is as nasty as his comments were in the first place. It entrenches his (and his supporters views) that they’re battlers, attacked by things they don’t understand (such as social media). Reminds me of Meryl Dorey actually. The more you attack these people and give them oxygen the more you fuel their I’m the underdog, the whole world is against me, I’m fighting the ‘good fight’, enemies are trying to silence me etc mindset. But of course we have to pull them up on their behaviour, but not sure what the answer is. I think Jones is a narcissist too, wihch is why he has zero comprehension or empathy regarding the offence he caused.
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Out of interest, Em, which media stereotype of Jones’ listeners do you believe? The reality might surprise you.
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Thanks for the reply Mia. I agree, your comments were very different to his, with no malice behind them.
I think feedback from listeners/readers is brilliant – even when critical. But when it gets nasty (like you received and reportedly Jones is receiving) I think it falls into ’2 wrongs don’t make a right’. Thanks again
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Alan Jones is not just sheltered by his success, he’s intoxicated by it. Seriously drunk on himself.
Blind as a welder’s dog.
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Is it just me, or is taking all the advertising from Alan Jones’ radio show just giving him more time to air his opinions? Make him play something else in its place, music, public service announcements.
It is like me punishing my 3 year old by saying you may have hit your sister, taken all her toys and broken them, I am going to punish you by giving you a bowl of ice cream and a block of chocolate…..
Take his microphone away, works for toddlers.
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” taking all the advertising from Alan Jones’ radio show ”
It takes away revenue. It isn’t cheap to run a radio station what with all those pesky license fees and shock jocks’ salaries.
And it is known that Jones doesn’t promote products for nothing.
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I would like to add charlotte dawson to that list of people that can’t handle the bite back.
Also, i strongly, strongly disagree with people calling for Alan Jones to be sacked. I am not a fan of his at all, far from it, but i am rather over the calls to “get rid” of people when they have an opinion you disagree with. “Kyle Sandilands offended me” – Sack him! and so on. Surely there is a place for a variety of voices in the media and we can choose to listen to the ones that resonate with us the most?.
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I couldn’t agree more – Alan Jones clearly represents the view of some people and they deserve to have a voice in the media too.
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I view that as a little bit ‘chicken or the egg’ – my grandparents, who are lovely people in general, occasionally spout something that must have come from Alan Jones’ mouth (or someone with similar views) – I really cannot tell if they believed it first and he gave voice to their thoughts, or if he said it and they caught on to it (being older and possibly vulnerable). It’s a fine line – we don’t want to give room for nastiness just because some people in society are nasty. Do they really deserve to have a voice in the media too?
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Well, i would say to that what you deem as nasty may not be seen that way by others, wrong or right. Also, who is to say that your perhaps more modern thoughts have not been placed in your head by the media you follow to some extent? Just because your grandparents are elderly does not make them incapable of thinking for themselves. Furthermore, as a generational thing, they may believe your views are being misguided by the media, even though you may be sure they are not.
Tricky!
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The Alan Jones witch hunt is politically driven and the gullible and ill-informed have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
Jenna Price wrote a piece condemning the airline hostess for exposing the Kevin Rudd’s abuse of her. Selective sisterhood?
I light of the power and manipulation Hitler was able to garner over the ignorant masses, we must be vigilant.
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You’ve completely missed the point. The point is that Jones made an offensive comment (again) and a lot of people are upset about it, and want to say “we’ve had enough of that sort of behaviour”.
It’s nothing to do with witch hunts, sisterhoods, politics or Andrew Bolt. It’s about common decency and people expressing their feelings about something that was just plain WRONG. It’s that simple.
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It’s funny that you claim that the “gullible and ill-informed have fallen for [the Alan Jones witch hunt] hook line and sinker” when it’s Alan’s listeners and ilk who seem to be consistently gullible and misinformed (and happy to be so).
For you to then link an Andrew Bolt article as proof that the “witch hunt is politically driven” despite the content reminding readers that Alan has always said vile and disrespectful things about people from both parties is even more laughable.
Alan Jones – it’s time to go.
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It’s a bit rough comparing Alan Jones to Hitler though.
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Another great article Mia.
You always hit the nail right on the head every time.
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Fantastic post Mia- I got goosebumps reading it!
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Thank god! It’s time sexist dinosaurs like Alan jones retired or at least kept their mouth firmly enclosed in their am talkback bubbles.
Great article Mia!
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I can’t stand Alan Jones and I would boycott him if I listened to him in the first place but an interesting thing to come out of all of this is the way that people have behaved towards the companies that were advertising on his show.
A friend of mine works for one of the advertisers and they were inundated with really abusive demands that they cease advertising on the show. Alan Jones isn’t seeing these emails. People like you and I, just doing their jobs, who don’t support what he said, who have nothing to do with what he said, are the ones receiving these abusive – and yes bullying – emails. I think that’s crossing a line. Yes I want to see him off air – so does my friend – but is targeting businesses the way to do that? His show is still going, so who has been the real loser in all of this? Businesses advertise on Jones’ segment because it’s a highly rated show. Who’s fault is that? The advertisers? Or the millions of people listening in?
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Hypocricy writ large. Those who just want the hate speech to end are screaming worse hate speech than ive ever heard on 2GB.
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I don’t see a problem with the general public letting advertisers know that their chosen mouth piece is damaging their brand, but abusive demands is not the right way around it.
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I’m not condoning the abusive e-mails your friend has fielded but what’s wrong with writing to an advertiser (politely) and asking them to reconsider who they advertise with?
It’s not unheard of for advertisers to voluntarily pull their ads when something happens that they don’t want to align themselves with. So why shouldn’t a customer write to a business and say “hey, this happened and you should think twice about whether you want your brand associated with it”?
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Yes in the real world that would be nice, unfortunately that is not the case here, threats have been made to some advertisers, the line of decency has been well crossed
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I agree, there’s nothing wrong with a customer writing to a business with their opinions, but this has gone so much further than that. There is a facebook page that provides contact details for advertisers and encourages people to email, repeatedly, until advertising is withdrawn. It’s becoming abusive and out of hand. I’d much rather people target 2GB directly to fire Alan Jones – isn’t that what people really want? For me it’s a broader issue with social media. With facebook and twitter it’s super easy for people to jump on the bandwagon and start a witch hunt. In this case, people pushing back on Alan Jones is justified but there’s many instances where it’s not.
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“I’d much rather people target 2GB directly to fire Alan Jones”
I suspect they’d get a pro-forma ‘thank you for your input’ response. Going via advertisers is more effective, because money talks.
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Is Alan Jones tired of the bullying? or is he exasperated at the level of vitroil & threats aimed at his advertisers? Public backlash that has attracted the worse level of bullying & trolling?
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Abusive emails are never acceptable in any form and show the composer to be no better than the person they are complaining about.
On the other hand I see nothing wrong with contacting a company to express support and congratulations to them for making a stand on something they clearly do not want to be associated with.
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B doesn’t your friend have ethics? If I had a business, I wouldn’t advertise it on a hate-spouting program like Jones’ because I don’t believe it would be the right thing to do. If you are going to affiliate yourself with Jones by using his successful show to advertise on, then you also run the risk of going down with him when his nastiness crosses the line. Do a deal with the devil….
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I think part of Alan Jones bafflement is his complete ignorance and arrogance regarding social media. He’d be the first to call a young person stupid for taking inappropriate pictures then paying the price when they end up online. Social media is a wonderful, scary thing and anyone in the media must work hard to understand it – not necessarily use it (lots of great writers keep a million miles away from Facebook and Twitter) but its power, as Jones is discovering, can cripple businesses, bring down individuals and perhaps even governments. It might even strengthen them. Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing, but it’s real.
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The claims of cyberbullying made me think that too, Kate – those making the claim don’t really have an understanding of this thing the kids are all into called the internet, and as such I think it’s being used to appeal to his listeners who share that ignorance. “Oh that terrible internet!”.
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completely agree Kate
In fact there was more than one politican on Q&A last night (when Kate Ellis was being shouted over) who referred to ‘The’ Facebook and ‘The’ Twitter.
The use of the definite article was giving away their ignorance. Totally.
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A great article Mia. I think that a lot of people are focussed on Alan Jones’ comments about the PM, when for many people this is the proverbial straw. Society, rightly so, needs to push back on people like this. There has been too much hatred lately (the facebook campaigns, the anger towards anyone foreign) and people like Mr Jones’ authenticate and give validity to that hatred. It is time to stop it.
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Excellent article, but no one deserves bullying. I think he’s got the message that he went too far.
I also appreciate the “Mia Culpas” – very nice work, Mia.
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It’s a rain barrel effect. Once it starts to overflow, there’s no stopping it.
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The biggest weapon against Alan Jones – drop in ratings. Switch him off and we don’t need to worry about boycotting advertisers, causing outrage etc, simply if his ratings drop 2GB will listen.
Same with Kyle Sandilands, unfortunately though when his scandal broke his ratings actually went up, so what will Austero do? Wait for the scandal to die down, then pop him back on air.
If we simply switch off, and ratings plunge, this is the one (and only) message the stations will listen to
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Bit difficult to switch off something which I never switched on to begin with.
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Well Lulu, the Alan Jones breakfast show is the highest rating show in Sydney, so even though you may not be listening, many thousands are.
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I agree Mia, such a great, thoughtful article.
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Great article. Except oh, I knew someone would try to defend Henson. Sigh. Whatever you think of his “work” it was not his choice to make, no adult has the right to present nude photos of children in public. Full stop. If you disagree with that you are simply wrong.
Every other point is absolutely irrelevant. It is nothing to do with freedom or artistry or his “work”. It does not matter what you think of him or his predilection for photographing naked children.
Once more, for the record, no child can give informed consent and absolutely no adult has the right to display them naked in public.
Before we start trotting out the same old chestnuts – there is no comparison to family photo albums and yes, people who put photos of their kids naked on Facebook or other public places are also idiots and are usually made to take them down. Because it’s not their choice to make.
Once again for clarification – it is absolutely irrelevant what any adult thinks of naked photos of children. It doesn’t matter if you think he’s a pervert, or not a pervert, if you think they are tasteful, well done, ugly, appalling – it is all absolutely irrelevant. Because the bottom line is that NO adult has the right to display any child naked in public. The fact that they occasionally get away with it does not make it right.
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What about Anne Geddies? Personally I don’t have a problem with naked bodies so am having trouble understanding what all the fuss is about. It’s natural? In some cultures children get about naked every day. It’s we who are making it into something weird.
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But the point is that it doesn’t matter whether you have a problem with it or not. It is not your choice to make for someone else. And a child cannot consent to be displayed nude in public. That is the only point that is relevant.
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I think people making an issue out of nudity and equating it with sexuality create a bigger problem for out children.
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But once again, the reasons are irrelevant. Adults don’t have the right to display nude photos of children in public. And children cannot consent. That’s all that matters. Everything else is just obfuscation.
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Was it wrong for whoever the photographer was that photographed Kim Phuc to display that photo? For those of you who are unsure, Kim Phuc is the little girl whose clothing was burnt off in a napalm strike. Every time I have seen that photograph, I don’t think ‘Oooh, naked kid = bad!’ I see a little girl in unspeakable shock and agony, and I shudder every time I see it.
I personally thought Bill Henson’s photographs were beautiful.
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And you, personally can display yourself any way you choose. But you don’t have the right to choose that for children. And they cannot consent. I am not sure why this very simple concept keeps causing difficulty to a few. It simply does not matter, at all, what you think, I think or anybody else thinks of the photos. It is wrong to display nude photographs of a person who cannot consent to that display.
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