The kiss hello seems to be such an innocuous, brief social moment but it can be fraught with danger. Real danger.
We all know how it works. You’re at the pub with some friends and you hear a female friend , who’s come up behind you, say “hi”. You turn, see who it is, put down your drink and you go in for the kiss hello.
Now despite the fact that the kiss of a friend takes just a few seconds, there are many things that can go wrong and a number of issues which need to be considered at the time.
Which side?
I know things can be a little different in some European countries but when I go in to kiss a woman hello, my face is going to the left hand side every time. I generally expect the woman to also go to the left. If she does, it’s all sweet. If she doesn’t, it can be chaos. If one of us goes left and one goes right there can be facial clashes, mis-kisses, head-butts (in extreme cases) and all round embarrassment. It’s all fun and games until somebody loses an eye.
What’s nearly as bad as a left side/right side mix up is somebody throwing the dummy. Letting you think they are going to the left and then doing the little shuffle at the last second which makes you think they are swapping to the right. It throws the rhythm out altogether and can really ruin the moment.
Hands
I reckon the use of the hands depends on how long you have known the person you are kissing and how good a friend they are. If you are kissing a new friend or an acquaintance, hands are only permitted to make contact with the shoulder and upper arm. But with a good friend, it is permissible to put your hands on their waist or even lower back. But, of course, you cannot allow your hand to drop too low. Much care is required.
Lip contact
There can NEVER be any lip-to-lip contact. Ever. If your lips end up somehow pursed against your friends lips, even if it was due to an unavoidable left side/right side mix-up, then you are unintentionally saying “I want to make love to you.” This is quite often frowned upon by the kissee and possibly her husband standing next to her. Even the sides of your lips coming in to contact with the side of hers can be interpreted as meaning “I want to make love to you, a little.” This can still be problematic.
The lip on the cheek pause
Once your lips hit the cheek of your friend, you then have to decide how quickly to withdraw. Sometimes you hang around there for a couple of seconds, but other times you are in and out faster than an irate cobra striking at an annoying little mongoose. On this one you need to take the lead from the female you are kissing. Her body language will let you know if you should hang around on the cheek to put a little more feeling in to the moment or if you should cut and run ASAP.
The post-kiss hug
Don’t think that once the kiss is over there are no more decisions to be made. There is the post-kiss hug to navigate. The difficulty with the hug is that you don’t actually know if it is going to happen at all. Once the kiss is over, the hug can be initiated by either party and it can be quite awkward if one person is not ready to reciprocate.
Also, if the hug is on, you then have to speculate on how long it is going to last. There is nothing worse than unintentionally trying to put a premature end to a hug by pulling away when the person you are hugging is still holding on like Jesse “The Body” Ventura (he’s a wrestler from the 80′s). They’ll think you don’t care.
Remember the degree of difficulty is greatly magnified by us only having a few seconds to weigh up all these factors.
How about this? Maybe we should slow the entire social kissing process down dramatically and all take a pause to analyse and prepare. Then, when both parties are ready, like rugby players to the call of “crouch, touch, pause, engage,” we go in. All embarrassment, awkwardness and potential injuries averted.
Jase Gram is a father of two, husband of one, owner of two (dogs). You can follow him and his social observations at his blog.
How do you handle the social kiss? Do you avoid them altogether or give them no thought? Do you have different tactics for different situations?







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As a slightly older mother I can’t remember any social kissing when I was young growing up in the western suburbs of Sydney. Social kissing was seen as something the French / Italians did. It seemed to have grown in the more upmarket suburbs (think Eastern Suburbs in Sydney) and has quickly spread throughout urban Australia. At my daughter’s school (in the Eastern suburbs LOL) many of the mothers greet as if they haven’t seem each other for years when it was just at pickup that morning. Its really kind of a pretentious social thing but I generally go along with it. It is embarrassing when the sunglasses clash however.
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“i want to make love to you, a little.
That made me snort.
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Thank you for this post. The social greet and kiss is my biggest irrational fear. I dread it to the point of sneaking out or avoiding these situations altogether. I wish we could just bow like they do in Asian countries. I realize I am just an uptight American, but I am a girl- I should be better at this shit. I just don’t want anyone in my personal space. I don’t want to be able to smell what kind of soap you use. The only person I want touching me is my boyfriend. Period. And like you said, there are so many things that can go wrong leaving me feeling awkward and embarrassed, unable to recover and for at least 15 minutes. One time I accidentally kissed an older gentleman’s neck. I hope I can get over this one day and become a slightly less socially retarded individual.
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I don’t mind kissing hello, but I hate the awkward waiting line up when you arrive and there is already a group. Then if there are people you don’t know so well and you don’t want to kiss them you have to give a weird little wave. Or is that just me? Maybe I should sneak up from behind and sidle in unnoticed.
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I think you’re over thinking it. Don’t go for the welcome kiss if you need to think about it in this much detail.
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Omg tell me about it!! It’s a NIGHTMARE, ESP in this multicultural country! I am naturally a non-kisser, non-hugger but slowly adapting to friends who hug and kiss goodbye… I hated it esp since one of my hugger/kisser friend wears too much perfume and I end up smelling like her.
But what I really hate is some stranger u just got introduced to go in for a hug/kiss. I automatically tense up and I know they sense it…. Then it’s totally awkward.
Then again one of my best friends’ sis’s boyfriend is “Italian” and apparently that’s his excuse to kneel on one knee and kiss u on the hand, in public, the first time and every time afterwards, when he sees u. I guess I didn’t get the worst ones after all.
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Ahh I do feel your pain here Jase, I often find my self in these situations.
How about a few other questions..
If other people are doing it, do you do it?
And what if you don’t know the woman?
Sometimes you just go in for the hug, then she goes for the side kiss.. and you are all out of wack!
haha good read!
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That artical is the funniest thing I have read in a long time, made my day!
Thank you for that
I dont mind the social kiss, but when your really short sometimes one party’s aim can be off… that gets awkward!
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Being half-Greek, I dread leaving gatherings such as Easter and Christmas on that side of the family. When leaving, I’m expected to kiss every person on the way out (that’s usually around 40 people, I might add, not to mention that they have to do the same when they leave) and most of them do the extremely awkward double-kiss that I’m usually not ready for so I end up having a cheek smashed against my nose. I hate it and unfortunately for me, even after growing up with it, I’m still not used to it.
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I’m with you! Torture, takes an hour or more to leave!
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Orrr we can all ‘wei’ like they do in Thailand!
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Oh this hits home for me as we have one very touchy feel y soccer Dad who will swoop in for the cheek kiss but will also linger for a shoulder rub or whatever else he can manage. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a well meaning guy, not sleazy, just a bit “new age”. I keep a good arm’s length distance if I see him coming.
And as for the lip kiss… one of my best friends who I love and adore likes to kiss on the lips! I try to dodge to the left so it ends up on the cheek. The only person I really want to lip lock is my husband. (OK well if George Clooney insisted…)
Being kissed by total strangers just because you have been introduced doesn’t sit comfortably with me either.
A manly handshake or a girly hand clutch, even a friendly shoulder pat will do just fine thanks.
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I feel for you. Touchy feely soccer Dad will get the hint … eventually.
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Got bad news for you Loulee.
That “very touchy feely soccer Dad who will swoop in for the cheek kiss but will also linger for a shoulder rub or whatever else he can manage… well meaning guy, not sleazy, just a bit new age”, is in fact a non-well meaning guy, he is sleazy and probably not really all that new age.
Ladies, if you are in doubt, then assume the kisser is being sleazy. We are men, it’s what we do.
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Nooooo Jase! Don’t tell me that! (Shudders) Well the good news is he’s just got engaged so maybe he has found an outlet for his overly affectionate ways. Best of luck to the new missus!
(My husband and I have had a running joke about it, watching which mums like to linger for the shoulder rub and which like to do the bolt. It’s amused us no end.)
And on another note I have a lovely friend who lets it be known to all and sundry that she is not a hugger or a kisser so back off. I respect that about her.
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There is always a lot of weirdness in our friendship group at goodbye time because our circle of girlfriends includes both “kissers” and “non-kissers”.
The “kissers” (of which I”m naturally one) when they have to leave a gathering, go around giving out good bye kisses, but when you get to someone who you know isn’t into that, do you just…. what… bypass them? Stand there and give them a little wave? It’s awkward. Sometimes I just kiss them anyway and to hell with if they feel weird about it. You can’t just kiss some of your friends and not others!
If I’m in a one-on-one situation with a non-kisser though, I won’t kiss goodbye, I’m happy to just do the “see ya” “catch you later” thing… it’s just in group situations it goes a bit pear shaped.
My in-laws are another awkward group: MIL definite non-kisser, FIL will go in for the kiss, one SIL is a kisser, the other not. Goodbyes and hellos at family gatherings are a source of a lot of stress for me!
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i always figure it’s better to include them rather than ignore them with the kiss goodbye thing!
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I used to go out with a (faux) european. He used to make me kiss people that he was introducing me to and I had only just met. Arghhhhh!!!! Kissing strangers.
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I used to hate this with my ex partners parents. I felt uncomfortable having to kiss them every time I saw them. I don’t do it anymore thank God. It’s too easy to get awkward! I’ve smacked cheeks by accident, gone for the wrong side. Gah! *facepalm* my brothers ex wore a crapload of foundation and I’d stick to her face.
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that could be another blog right there girly, the deception and dangers to men, when women wear too much make up.
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And what about the kiss on each cheek wildcard? We’re not in Paris or Milan are we? Very awkward when you don’t know it’s coming and you leave the instigator hanging in mid pucker … Snigger
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Oh this article was funny!
Thanks for the laugh
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Im really glad you enjoyed it roserusso, working on my next blog as we speak.
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I hate it when someone is hot & sweaty & they kiss you on the cheek & wipe their sweat on you! YUK! GROSS!
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I hate the social kiss too!
http://gnotesblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/the-kiss-or-shake-debate/
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I can’t say it really bothers me, I don’t initiate a social kiss unless it is with someone who has made it clear they are comfortable with it, however I have no issue whatsoever with people hugging and kissing me, I like affection but I dont want to force it on others
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I don’t do the social kiss; I back right away with the words…
“Sorry I’m not a tactile person”
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Wow, I didn’t realise how many people hate the social kiss! I’m a fan! I hope all the people I am social kissing aren’t like the majority of you here!
I have a few friends who I kiss on the lips, guys and girls, and I am totally cool with that. A friends hubby kissed me on the lips recently, it surprised me but as I said, I’m cool with the lip kiss.
My MIL is the most awkward kisser. She purses her lips tight like a cats bum and it just feels all wrong. No one enjoys it!
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I like the social kiss – but I think Jase needs to get over the kiss on the lips thing. Several of my partner’s girlfriends kiss me on the lips, and I’m very sure none of them want me, or want to make love to me.
I’m also concerned Jase hasn’t discussed the man kiss. There are blokes I’ve known (and loved) a very long time, I won’t settle for shaking their hands when I see them.
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Hear hear Ian!
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Really? I think kissing on the lips is incredibly personal. Maybe they do want you…….
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Oh the lip contact does make me nervous mate.
You’re right Ian, even though I didn’t mention it, I did give consideration to the “man kiss” issue when writing the blog. However, despite being Godfather to a gay couple’s child, I have never actually kissed a bloke (outside of family of course). So I thought I may do an injustice to too many people if I tried to blab on about the dangers and pitfalls of the “man kiss”, which I haven’t ever been a party to.
cheers buddy
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I too hate the social kiss! Had a few awkward moments when i turn too far and people end up kissing my ear… so embarrasing!
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I don’t mind a cheek bump. Growing up in a Mediterranean family, it’s something we do bloody every day. What I don’t like? Kissing hands of adults / people older than you. I don’t know where their hands have been! Instead, I do the chin hit then forehead smack with their hands. No lips necessary
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It should always be a kiss to the left, ie follow the automatic direction of the body after a handshake, which is what would have come before the kiss/hug the first time you meet someone.
Where I’m from we hug! No kissing! So it’s taken me a while to get used to all the air kissing over here. Especially with people I barely know. Luckily I find I remember what each of my close friends’ preferences are and everyone else get a quick air kiss and half a hug once we’re past the handshake stage.
Geez, no wonder there’s no room for important things in my brain!!
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Hey Jase, you can come double kiss me, linger longer and come back for a hug, any time! Thanks for the guys perspective.
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that sounds very tempting girlfriday67. I am always more than happy to give a guys perspective. cheers
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add to this the fact that i am allergic to makeup ( the perfume in it) and this social kiss thing is horrific.
if i am not quick enough i end up with a rash of blisters for the next week
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I social hug a lot, rarely kiss. Only two people do I willingly kiss (lips on cheek), and I see them rarely. Like, a couple of times a year. I kiss them because I miss them.
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I’m from a European background so kissing hello is a big deal, I mainly Air Kiss and absolutely hate it when someones lips hit my cheek and I’m left with a wet spot that I instinctively want to wipe off but have to hold back because I might offend the kisser.
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If you are wearing LIPSTICK, please, for the love of god, AIR KISS me! It’s common courtesy, surely?
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I WISH it was common courtesy! It’s always disconcerting to see other women’s lipstick smeared on Husband’s cheek from the social kiss.
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I admit I hate the social kiss!
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Great article! Until I moved to KL, I never did much kiss n greet stuff at all. I used to avoid my sister’s in-laws at all costs because they kiss on the lips!! All of them!
Here in KL, it’s the two kiss thing, unless there’s a Dutch person thrown into the mix and then it’s three. Australian’s and Kiwi’s is just the one. Unless you’ve been here a while and then you automatically go for two because, you know, everyone else does. It’s a bit of a joke in a mixed group though because no-one knows what’s going on. It’s all a bit of a kiss hokey-pokey.
And yes, if you are only meeting someone for the first time but you’ve managed to kiss everyone else more than once then it seems rather rude to not kiss the new person don’t you think?
Oh, and you forgot to mention what happens when one or both of you wears glasses. if you weren’t feeling awkward before all the kissing, just wait until you have a clash of frames or scratch someone’s cheek and see how well you recover from that.
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I don’t do the kissy thing. Sometimes I think about getting a water pistol to deter would be social kissers. Wait for them to lean in then BAM with a squirt right on their puckered lips.
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I’m really glad you liked the blog InKL, it sounds like you have the same issues over there.
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I hate the social kiss on the cheek! Most of my friends and my boyfriends friends do it and when it takes me off guard i have been known to come in to fast and bump cheekbones! ouch!
If we are at a restaurant i try to sit in the corner so when people arrive I am in a spot where it is too awkward to lean across the table to kiss just so I can avoid it!
I have also accidently kissed my ex boyfriends mum’s ear once instead of cheek – woops. I am just terrible at it and I want it to go away! I will kiss my nan and that is it!
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the social kiss/ kiss hug/ social mwwaaaa….all horrify me! I do not get it. I will kiss and hug people I love i.e. my immediate family, relatives, in laws and very close friends. Anyone else….forget it. I do not care if I am labelled unfriendly and if that is a requirement of “getting on” at work or socially,also, forget it. I don’t know when this all started but I see teenage girls kissing each other good bye after school then saying “Love You!” Now I know it’s sweet and positive but…. My mother taught me to shake a man’s hand when introduced and reach out for a females hand when introduced and just hold hands for a moment. For children a smile and a gentle touch of the shoulder. Now I do not know whether that is right wrong. Fashionable or unfashionable but that’s what I do. When someone goes in for the hug or kiss hug I take a step back while smiling put my hand out and say pleased to meet you/see you again…..whatever is appropriate. Forget the air kisses/hugs/mwwaaaa’s.
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Next we should discuss whether to end written messages with xx or “regards…” or what. I always worry about what is appropriate.
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I always say regards. But to xx to my children and husband and dearest friend
. I always start the message with hello. I do not appreciate, emails that are all in lower case and with abbreviations. I feel it shows a lack of respect.
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“I want to make love to you, a little” bahaha that made my day, THANK YOU!!
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thanks Sasha, glad I could make your day.
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Oh I DO hate in law family visits because of the kissing. Coming from a non social kissing family, kisses are only given when you haven’t seen each other for at least 6 months. My in laws and in law family members kiss to say hello, say goodbye and even if you see them the next day you have to go through the same thing again. Completely does my head in. One kiss hello surely should be enough to endure and then only once weekly. I have anxiety attacks for weeks before an inlaw event because of this social kissing thing.
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Very funny (and true!) giggling away at my desk….
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that was the goal Ashleigh, glad I gave you a laugh
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I’m an aid worker in the Pacific circulating in an ex-pat community and EVERYONE kisses EVERYONE! You get to know the social kiss arrangements by nationality as well..1 for Aussies and Kiwis, 2 for French and most other Europeans and those repressed Swiss love the 3 kiss salutation! Problem is when the Aussies and Kiwis start to go all Euro on you and you don’t know how many times you’re going to have to pucker up. The other awkward thing is when there’s someone new in the group you barely know; there’s no non-kissing hello. It’s the rules. Many times, despite the quick sizing up of the situation between two new people and the almost audible thought process of “but I don’t even know you!” going on, you just shut up and kiss and then move awkwardly to the next person. Honestly, by the time everyone at a party has kissed everyone else hello, it’s time to start doing it again for goodbye!!
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I actually should be working, but instead I am stifling giggles behind my hand as I read this. I will kiss friends and family, but not work colleagues, there is just something about it, I can’t quite come to grips with. I am fond of a hand shake and am especially fond of the two hand shake, where as suggested below is more like a hand hug. I really like the person if I hand hug them, it’s the most meaningful hand shake a person can give! My husband and I had an awkward kiss a few weeks ago, and I haven’t stopped laughing since. Was leaving the house, went to walk out, didn’t realise I hadn’t given him a kiss, so ran back and it was all kinds of awkward as we sort of banged heads. Now, where was I…yes I have to do work!
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You know, I don’t mind the social kiss. Be it air-kiss (mwah!), double kiss, cheek kiss, brave corner-of-mouth kiss or outright naughty mouth kiss. You just need to do it with confidence – it’s the faffing that makes it awkward. I say, bring it! The only kiss I dislike is kissing lechy old work colleagues, where we both go for the cheek and he suddenly lands one on the lips and then looks at me triumphantly. Blech, hate it!!
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Usually don’t mind the social kiss. Except yesterday. I am 39 weeks pregnant and did the social kiss hello with my sister in law and her partner. Then during the gathering, found out how sick, achy and miserable they are feeling with flu like symptoms!!! Gggrrr. You know what guys, tell me upfront you are a bit crook, and certainly don’t get close enough to kiss me and my 2 toddlers! I really don’t want sickness in the house this week…..
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I am very uncomfortable with it. With my family it doesn’t bother me at all, but when friends do it…well it kinda freaks me out. I have one GF that insists on a kiss and a hug when she arrives and when she leaves. I have to force myself to just go with it whilst cringing on the inside. I have no idea why it bothers me so much. It’s not like I never received any affection as a child, I got plenty of that.
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I have been known to throw a hissy fit in the car before an event, whinging to my husband “I dont WANT to kiss anyonnnnnnnne. DONT let them kiss me. TELL THEM TO LEAVE ME ALONE.”
He just stares at me.
I end up doing a little jig during hello and goodbye time, to avoid it. Or I just dont make the move to go in for a kiss, and the other person can read the vibes.
I just dont like the social kiss. It is affected and unneccessary.
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I hear you! My husband is not a social kisser (and somehow manages to ALWAYS get out of it) and he finds my awkwardness and discomfort in these situations very amusing.
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you know where I was coming from when I wrote the blog Original Steph. right on.
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My 18-year-old brother is an old soul. He’s also as cool as ice and has been dishing out the double handshake as long as I can remember. Instead of using just one hand, he incorporates both so the other person kind of gets a hand hug. We all laugh at him but it’s actually really sweet and sincere.
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My 18 y.o brother’s much the same! I get such a giggle out of it. Needless to say, he gets on well with everyone!
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WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST SHAKE HANDS?!
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Amen!!!
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There’s more germs on hands! Especially if they’ve been coughing or sneezing! I hate shaking hands! You never know where they’ve been or if they washed them after going to the toilet!
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I once went in for a kiss with a new friend, they dodged and, obviously not catching on, went for the other side!!! When the same thing happened again I felt EXTREME awkwardness
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I would prefer neither social-kiss nor post-kiss hug in social and work settings as I feel so uncomfortable with both; before and after the event (time for a therapist!). Although, happy to receive and initiate with children of close friends and family.
My problem is that I automatically try to counter the mortification I feel at being drawn into a ‘social-kiss’ by stupidly raising the stakes and initiating a post-kiss hug. Oh the shame. That’s like eating another block of chocolate to try to make myself feel better about having eaten the first block. It’s probably over-compensation on my part as I would hate for others to feel embarrassed by me not reciprocating their gesture.
Thanks for the post. Looking forward to reading through the comments on this one for a giggle, or a cringe if any posts remind me of my own failings in platonic kiss-etiquette.
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Your ‘raising the stakes’ comment had me in fits… where does it all end?! A social ‘hello’ dry hump?!
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‘Dry hump’! Guffaw!
Great idea – I will definitely keep that one on stand-by for times when I need more than an awkward hug to convince others that I’m ultra comfortable with social kissing. Nothing screams ‘no intimacy issues’ like dry humping someone you’ve just met!
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I had an awkward social kiss moment with a couple at the supermarket last night who has taken a very laid-back approach where they simply make cheek-to-cheek contact not bothering with any attempt at a pursed lip facial or sound, even continueing to talk whilst the greeting is happening. It makes sense really, technically both kisses from each party are just air-bound and will never be able to land on flesh at the same time but it just felt like it was lacking some gusto…
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My MIL has been doing this for years! If you’re going to make the effort, at least make some attempt at a kissing face/noise. Don’t keep talking to me and just brush your cheek against mine – what’s that all about?
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I hate the social kiss! I have a big personal space, its just not for me.
I often cant avoid it with the hello part of the evening, but when it comes time to say goodbye, I do a big wave and ‘goodbye everyone’ and hightail it out of there! haha!
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