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This is not a post where anyone slams Sonia Kruger – so don’t even go there. Don’t. Even. But we are going to discuss an issue to do with women and parenting and we can totally do that because it’s important and relevant.

Okay, let’s go:

This week, 47-year-old Big Brother host Sonia Kruger has told Woman’s Day magazine that she is ‘still very open’ to the idea of having kids….

The Courier Mail reports:

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Sonia Kruger

The energetic 47-year-old, who features on the front cover of Woman’s Day this week, told the magazine she is still very open to the idea of having kids.

But being in peak physical condition does not affect your biological ability to fall pregnant, especially when you’re a woman over 40.

That’s the advice of obstetrician and gynaecologist Andrew Zuschmann, who is also a spokesperson for the Australian Medical Association.

“From about 45 onwards a woman’s chances of falling pregnant spontaneously are almost impossible,” Dr Zuschmann said. “Most need IVF or donor eggs to fall pregnant.”

Even a successful conception does not guarantee the woman or the baby are out of danger, he said.

A third of women over 40 are at risk of having a miscarriage compared to one in five women under 30.

Chances of premature birth and chromosomal abnormalities, like Down Syndrome, are also greatly increased. And older mothers are more likely to have high blood pressure and need medical intervention during the birth.

On the upside, women who are older can often be in a better place mentally and financially than younger women, and this can make life post-baby more enjoyable.

As for Sonia herself, she is a highly intelligent woman and in the absence of direct quotes from her beyond being ‘open to the idea’, I’m not going to speculate on what she meant by that.

Her partner is a divorced father of five kids and Sonia is an aunt so it’s not like she doesn’t already have children in her life. There’s adoption. There’s egg donation. Who knows what she meant?

I also think there’s something in the idea that every woman in the public eye who doesn’t have children HAS to go through the motions of saying they haven’t ruled it out.

Maybe because they genuinely haven’t (although nature tends to rule it out on our behalf over a certain age that’s closer to 40 than 47) or maybe they’re just mindful that in some parts of our society, there’s a lingering suspicion of childless women.

It sucks but it’s there.

Anyway, this whole subject does raise the wider issue of our basic understanding of fertility and the misconception (literally) among many women that because they look and feel young, their ovaries can also defy their biological age.

They can’t.

In a previous column about women in their thirties and forties who struggle to fall pregnant I wrote this:

I’ve seen first-hand too many women in their thirties and forties who had no idea about how their fertility had decreased until it was too late. Is that feminism’s fault? Or is it the fault of celebrities who have “miracle’ babies in their forties and even fifites…..when actually they use donor-eggs? No matter how young your face or body looks, there’s no such thing as botox for your ovaries. There’s nothing you can do to stop them getting older.

I’m not suggesting it’s wrong to use donor eggs or that any woman should have to tell the world about her private fertility choices – choices are a key tenant of feminism. And every woman has the right to privacy.

But if we’re going to get our information about fertility from reading gossip magazines, there are going to be thousands of women who are bitterly disappointed when they discover it’s too late for them.

Sadly, I have so many friends dealing with this exact issue. They’ve been forced to undergo all manner of intrusive procedures like IVF (NOT the easy fallback option many women assume it’s going to be….IVF is expensive and difficult and invasive…) and some are just having to accept childlessness as a life sentence.

But ultimately, I think WE need to be the ones educating ourselves – and yes, girls need to be taught in schools not just about how EASY it is to get pregnant but about how HARD it is to get pregnant once you’re past a certain age. In the end, it’s up to us. We have to educate ourselves, our daughters and each other about the true risks of waiting too long to have a baby……

Here are some facts about fertility and how a woman’s age effects her chances of getting pregnant (from yourfertility.org.au):

  • Starting at about age 32, a woman’s chances of conceiving decrease gradually but significantly.
  • From age 37, the decline in a woman’s ‘fertility potential’ speeds up.
  • By age 40, fertility has fallen by half.
  • More than 70 per cent of under-30s women conceive within three months. For women aged over 36, this drops to about 40 per cent.
  • At age 25, only five per cent of women take more than a year to conceive. For women aged 35, this figure rises to 30 per cent.

Here are some women celebrities who had children later in life:

Uma Thurman was 42 when she had her last child.

 So what are your thoughts? Do you think women (and men) have a good enough understanding of fertility and how hard it is to conceive for women older than 35?

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103 Comments so far

  1. Bec

    Just read the SMH article with Collette Dinegan (sp?) saying women should have kids earlier (than 46)… when is someone going to write an article saying that MEN should be part of this attempt too! When none of the fellas are looking to ‘get serious’ it’s pretty hard to decide that you want to have kids if you’re the only one who is thinking further than the next date. Her comments just fuel the argument that it’s always the ambitious women who are too busy with their careers to get pregnant blah blah blah

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  2. A-Dubbs

    Havent read all the comments and assume someone has mentioned but Sonia never actually said that…. Bullshit, attention grabbing headlines as per usual. She said she wanted a Big Brother baby, as in, for contestants to fall in love etc…..

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    • Anonymous

      Women’s Day headlines I mean…. !!!!!

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  3. Sunny

    Biologically having her first child at 47? I’m sorry, but with that she’s left it too late. Of course, pregnancies can occur at this age (my grandmother had my mum aged 46, completely naturally) but they are always the exception. There is always egg donation/surrogate/adoption/fostering at her age, so she could always do that.
    I think women are aware of their biological clock ticking, but they probably assume that they shouldn’t have THAT much trouble falling pregnant and then set themselves up for disappointment. You can put a career on hold, but not your biological clock!

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    • Siobhan

      I’m interested to know what your options would be at 47 though. I thought that to adopt in Australia, you couldn’t have more than 45 years between the age of the adopting parents and the child being adopted (which would rule out a 47 year old being able to adopt a young baby), but someone please correct me if I’m wrong. And I would have thought there were age limits to accessing IVF treatment as well, both using your own eggs and using donor eggs. I remember reading a while back that the chance of conceiving with IVF using your own eggs was almost negligible after the age of 43…

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  4. Jennifer

    Sonia is a gorgeous girl, but please think of the child, a teenager and a mum in her sixties! call me old fashion any day but mum should be young with her children, mine are 33 and 30 and I am in my mid fifties and married 36 years and no I don’t have grandchildren and I don’t believe that will happen now, as my children feel the same way, but who knows!

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  5. teaganjai

    no one could actually blame her,, i mean im on no sides but wat ever she does is wat she does, i mean if she has a baby, WAIT if she is forty then she has her baby then when she is about 60, her baby would be 20???? idk im not really good at maths!!!!

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  6. Maree Lipschitz The Midlife Midwife

    I conduct puberty programs for girls and have been giving them this message for years Mia – fertility delines exponentially after 35 so don’t leave it too late gals! However I also give midlife and menopause prorgams for women – and tell those peri-menopausal women in their forties they must use contraception until they have stopped bleeding for at least 18 months! I’ve seen too many women fall pregnant in their forties thinking that they didn’t need contraception – so it does happen! The female body is a wonderful mysterious thing….:)

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    • Anonymous

      I also think if you have had babies it is easier to become pregnant. Never having a child at 47 , the likelihood of her ever falling pregnant are zilch ..

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    • KateS

      Just as well you are not an english teacher because your spelling is atrocious !

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  7. clarice

    Maybe what Sonia is saying is that she has an open mind to life’s unexpected and unplanned happenings. This is the attitude which helps us all deal with, and often enjoy our life without the pressure of “achieving personal goals” etc.

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  8. mj

    The message certainly got through to me in my late 30s. Well, the message got through earlier, it just took a while for my actions to catch up. But I’m glad they finally did – I became a first time (and suffice it to say probably only time) mumma 2 weeks before my 41st birthday.

    http://bumpyroadtobubba.com/aboutme/

    I certainly hope – whatever Sonia’s situation may be – that she is happy. Who knows if she’s tried to have children and it just hasn’t happened for her (like so many women I know from their 20s through to their 40s)? I certainly wouldn’t want to be in the public eye and have everyone’s opinions thrust upon me. I’m just your average girl and enough people saw fit to tell me what they thought of my decision!

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  9. Kate

    Why doesn’t she adopt one of Big Brother contestants? They’re all infantile.

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  10. michellebarraclough

    As a blogger who is all about The Fertility Message, I love that the message is getting through to the Gen Y. It means that the young women I love in my life are making the sensible decision not to delay child-bearing because of the mistaken belief that there is plenty of time and you can easily have babies in your forties. Because, you know, Madonna and Iman and the redheaded one from Desperate Housewives, and even sensible Susan Sarandon did it in their forties so it must be easy right?

    That theory is so turn-of-the-millennium. All the modern girls seem to now get it and they are jumping on the baby bus in their twenties and early thirties. I applaud them. I am in awe of their baby-smarts. I only wish I had been as smart. I might now have had two children in school (or university – yikes!) and not still be getting up at 5.30am or changing nappies or finding mashed banana smeared on the plasma. At 43, I should be drinking Cosmopolitans at lunch time and reading my Kindle on the beach and working on my mummy porn manuscript! Right?!?

    Really, my complaining is half-hearted. My 20 month old Francesca is the icing and cherry on my cake. But there’s no denying that it would have been nice to have all baby and toddler related tasks over and done with by now. Like a decade ago, when I was 34 and not nearly 44. Not to mention all that IVF & tricky conception business I went through!

    Some might complain that social media is responsible for an epidemic of over-sharing, but in the case of spreading the word about declining fertility, over-sharing has been of enormous benefit. This is real ‘news’ – news that affects many of our lives – and blogs, facebook, twitter, etc have made this kind of news so much more accessible to so many more people. As a chronic over-sharer, I heartily approve.

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  11. stuckinmiami

    I’m still reeling over the shock that Sonia Kruger is 47!
    OMG … to look that amazing at 47 …..

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    • Anonymous

      It has cost Sonia. Bloody fortune,

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      • Sydgel

        I take it you’re referring to plastic surgery? How do you know????? She does look amazing!

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        • Anonymous

          How do I know, this woman is honest… She is honest about her fake hollywood smile, her Botox, he facial rejuvenation. Only thing I admire about her..

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          • masd270248

            No, she’s a dancer, and bloody trim, fit and muscular!, Always looks good!! Go Sonya!!

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  12. rivkah

    The title of this article is completely misleading. Unless I’ve missed something, SK was quoted only as saying she is still ‘open’ to having kids.

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  13. KK

    the question is: WHY was this question asked in the first place?
    she is a successful, healthy, and as someone mentioned on twitter the other night ‘the best female presenter on australian tv’. why do we need to know whether kids are on the cards?

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  14. Suze

    I think only one other comment below mentioned that nowhere did Sonia give a definitive answer to HOW she would become a mother (and neither should she have to, it’s really no ones business)
    She could be intending to adopt, foster, or use a surrogate (gestational carrier) a la Nicole Kidman etc. Becoming a mother does not just mean actually giving birth to the child, remember.
    Most comments below are only running with the assumption that to ‘want kids’ means pregnancy, labour and birth at 47+ for Sonia…when there are other options available.
    Good luck Sonia, in whatever path you choose to take, I hope you are happy with whatever decision you make :)

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  15. Anonymous

    Reading about Sonia Krugar wanting to start a family at 47 makes her look like a fool. Seriously I dont know anyone who would not snigger and think the same thing hearing a woman deciding oh its time to have one 3 years off 50. A smarter answer would have been , yes it would have been lovely to have a family but it looks like I have left it a little too late.

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    • Sydgel

      I think her interview was really great. She was open, thoughtful and interesting.

      Your comment is just mean and unnecessary. I certainly did not “snigger”, only miserable people would do that.

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      • Nat

        Really, you hear a woman decides its time to have a baby at 47 and you don’t smirk ? I sincerely don’t believe you…..

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  16. neola

    Who’s to say Sonia hasn’t already spent years trying for a baby and just doesn’t really feel like sharing her disappointment or anxiety with the media?

    I hate those questions that put you on the spot. I’ve given similarly vague answers to the dozens of people who regularly ask when I’ll be having kids – I haven’t ruled it out either, but do I really have to provide a blow-by-blow account of the fertility treatments we’ve been trying, to prove that I’m not just being laissez-faire about the whole thing?

    Let’s give people a bit of privacy when it comes to having kids, it’s hard enough without all the speculation…

    P.S. Sorry if I sound snappy x I just find it hard to answer those kinds of questions within my immeate circle, can only imagine how hard it would be as a celebrity…

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  17. picardie.girl

    I was wondering about this sort of thing just yesterday.

    I have two friends who have been/are pregnant and who are older. I know that they have found/are finding it physically very difficult – and I wonder if that is to do with their age.

    Apart from your ability to actually conceive, is your biological age important when it comes to pregnancy – or can your physical fitness override this? For example, I am fitter and healthier now than I was 5 years ago – would it be easier for me to carry a child, give birth and recover from the birth (not conceive) now? Or does it not matter that much that I am fitter and healthier, because I am older, and that’s what counts? What about in another 5 years’ time?

    Anyone know? I’m really interested.

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    • michellebarraclough

      Hi picardie.girl. From my own experience (pregnancy & birth at both 34 and 42) I found the later pregnancy a tiny little bit harder on my body in terms of aches and pains. At times I felt like a 90 year old arthritic getting out of bed in the morning! I think fitness and health were critical both times, especially when it came to the rigours of carrying that extra 16 kgs of weight towards the end of pregnancy and the physical and mental rigours of labour and birth. And fitness definitely helps after the birth. I loved being able to get up and about after birth. But again, this is just my experience and luck, as well as fitness, played a part in all of it. And I was by no means super-fit! I just kept up the walking and some light yoga every day. No heavy weights or anything too extreme. And I was not overly (or even remotely!) strict on diet, eating my entire body weight in cereal daily! At the end of the day, I think being fit and healthy can only help.

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    • Siobhan

      Hi picardie.girl,

      You are born with all the eggs you will ever produce, and the number diminishes as you age, so as you age, your eggs age with you, and there’s not a huge amount you can do to improve the health of your eggs (although if you smoke, drink heavily etc. you can damage the eggs you have left far more rapidly). However, there is some evidence that taking certain vitamins and minerals can help to improve egg quality to an extent, and I believe this includes vitamin E, zinc and antioxidants.

      There are a lot of things you can do to improve your overall fertility though, as it’s not only egg quality that affects fertility, and I would strongly recommend that any woman considering pregnancy follows a preconception plan in the months before conception (it’s important that the father tries to improve his fertility too), and as Michelle said above, being fit and healthy can only help. I saw a fertility naturopath before conceiving each of my two children, and most of her clients are in their 40s. The vast majority end up conceiving after following her program, including many who have previously tried IVF unsuccessfully.

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  18. FHB

    I really like Sonja Kruger and I often wonder why she inspires such nasty comments sometimes.

    If she wants to have a child and take full responsibility for it, then she’ll be the one left to face those consequences. Unfortunately for her, the chances of giving birth to a down syndrome child a very high due to her age and every year the risk becomes more a probability than possibility.

    However, (before I get shouted down), that isn’t to say having a down syndrome child wouldn’t be a rewarding experience, but it is inherently a lot more work and I think honesty is important, and most people would honestly rather avoid these complications.

    Her decision to make, the child’s to live with.

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  19. vivacious

    Due to nearly dying of appendicitis and having added complications of major infection which left significant scaring when I was 6, I know and have known that getting pregnant might not be easy or possible for me. Add to that the fact that I’m already 32 and while I’m in THE relationship I doubt for a number of reasons kids will be something we think about for the next couple of years and I’m seriously looking at the possibility I may not be able to have kids.

    It saddens me so much, I see the joy that my friends kids bring to their lives and yet, given I’ve had pretty much my whole life to get used to the idea I know I can cope with it.

    In some ways I feel fortunate (weird as that might sound). If I do have kids, it will be almost like a miracle. If I don’t, it will be the prediction coming true and really I can deal with that. Still I will hope for the miracle when the time comes.

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    • Anna

      Wow, that is so likely sister’s situation. She nearly died from a burst appendix and a couple of weeks later again due to septicaemia. She was 6 too. It wasn’t til later she found out that her reproductive organs had been damaged. Luckily, IVF worked beautifully for her. Maybe it will for you too, if that’s what you choose. She had a very similar attitude to you. If it worked, well, wonderful. But if it didn’t, well the alternative was still way better than dying as a child. She felt blessed either way. So, much sure you get expert help, and best wishes and good luck. You never know!

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      • vivacious

        I hope so Anna. I just think I’m lucky that unlike others who have infertility thrust on them as a surprise, I would be the one being surprised at being fertile! But then again I am in general a very glass half full type of person.

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  20. Poss

    When my aunt had her first baby at 37 30 years ago she had ‘elderly primate’ stamped on her wrist and her file. How times have changed.

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    • Caz

      The terminology would have been “elderly prima gravida” which means older first time mother. A little better than “primate.” In the 1940s anyone over 25 having a first baby was labelled this way.

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    • Tanya

      I had my first child at 31 and was labelled “Prima Gravida” too. ‘Twas a bit weird, given that I was the first of my friends to have children. I guess human evolution has yet to catch up with modern life. Biologically we are still designed to have babies in our teens and twenties… mentally not so much, for me anyway :)

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      • Anonymous

        Prima gravida refers to first pregnancy for a woman – regardless of age! Subsequent pregnancies are then referred to as multi gravida, again age is irrelevant.

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  21. WTE

    I think most women do know that fertility declines, but I think that sometimes their faith in IVF is probably a bit too strong. The reality is that it doesn’t always work, and when it does it can take a long time, something which you don’t have if you start older.

    I started trying to conceive at 26 and it was only after I had been unsuccessful for 18 months that I discovered that I had endometriosis. I’m so glad that I started when I did because there wasn’t any time pressure when I started with assisted conception. I’ve now got 3 kids (last one at 36) which just would not have been possible if I’d started in my 30s.

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  22. Noelle

    First of all, I love Sonia Kruger, so you won’t hear me say a bad word about her.

    But you can’t post a contentious issue and then preface it by saying ‘Don’t even go there’. If we’re not supposed to go there (‘Don’t. Even.’) then why post this at all? Because you don’t want to be flamed for starting ‘non/mummy wars’?

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    • Mandy

      My thoughts too, why post it at all? This issue has been discussed here numerous time anyway…

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    • becsparrow

      Hi Noelle

      I don’t think this *has* to be a contentious issue, does it? I think it’s an issue that many women face, the whole idea of starting a family later in life. Is it possible? What are the options? How many of us feel we were never adequately taught about our fertility when we were younger?

      I think it’s not giving women enough credit to assume we can’t talk about this issue without it deteriorating into some kind of war.

      I think we can all share opinions and our experiences without anyone slamming Sonia just because she said – in an interview – that she’s open to have children.

      And yes, we have discussed this issue in the past before but there are plenty of Mamamia readers who don’t read every story on the site every day – damn them!! :) – so that’s why we’re comfortable revisiting issues.

      Anyway — hope that made sense. Thanks for your comment though. It all adds to the conversation. :)

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      • Anonymous

        I disagree, women are bombarded with info on fertility and decline . Unless someone can’t read or can’t hear. It is on the news , in the papers. We are saturated by stories of fear that we are leaving it too late.

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        • becsparrow

          Sure NOW we are. But not 10-15 years ago when it would have been more helpful to a whole heap of Gen X women! I’m really glad today’s generation though know better than we did. Knowledge is power!

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          • Anonymous

            Hmm I think most women with half a brain have know that are fertility is finite. Please bec, don’t insult our intelligence…

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    • Laws for Clouds

      And what’s with the headline? At what point did Sonia Kruger say she ‘still wants kids’.

      Um, no, she didn’t. She said she’s open to the idea, probably because her partner has five kids, and odds are one of them at least is old enough to read. How would you feel if your new stepmummy declared she didn’t want kids?

      The headline and the opening para are the biggest contradiction ever.

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  23. alyssakt

    I expected Naomi Watts to be in that gallery

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  24. Emma

    Yes the ‘facts’ are there but I think the most important thing to remember is EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. That 45 year old friend of yours that just had her first child via natural conception.. she’s the exception, not the rule. Same goes for that 26 year old couple you know who are desperately trying to get pregnant but can’t. The facts will only guide you so far and I think it’s up to every woman to be in touch with her own cycles and fertility. My best advice to all women out there is, talk to you doctor. Even if you don’t want to start a family now, there’s no harm in finding out where you stand on the fertility line. It could save you a lot of disappointment in the future.

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  25. Sarah

    How can any woman NOT be aware that fertility declines after a certain age. It seems like there is at least one article a week on the mainstream press about this topic lately!

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  26. Anon

    Also worth mentioning is unexplained infertility (no matter what age). I have been trying to conceive since I was 27, took 1.5yrs to fall – miscarried, another 8 mths to conceive again – miscarried. With no explanation at all. Still trying and ivf docs recommend a wait just s little longer because ivf is by no means to easy option.

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    • miss green

      kind of off-topic, but everytime i read stories like yours i HAVE to comment, as my story is the same. Please get a test for “natural killer cells” if you havent already. quite often the cause of unexplained miscarriage and is definitely treatable. good luck :)

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  27. Leela

    You know what? The facts about fertility give me the willies!! I am 42 and carrying my second child. My first was at 39. My two besties from school, similarly aged, are also pregnant with their second children. We all had our first babies after our 40th birthdays. Conversely I have much younger friends who are struggling to fall pregnant. Despite the statistics I had no problem. Pregnant first attempt with a healthy baby, both times.

    My point is not that women should blithely assume they can have children whenever they like. I wouldn’t advise anyone to wait as long I did. BUT fertility is such an individual matter that the over-40s should not just be written off with a bunch of statistics. Statistics are averages and no woman on this planet is average.

    As an over-40 baby producer, yes, those statistics are scary as hell and could turn you off the whole idea. But you know what? They didn’t apply to me at all. Or to those in my immediate circle. Even both my grandmothers produced late babies after 40. Why does society nowadays see it as selfish or starry-eyed?

    Whatever Sonia meant, does it really matter? I’m sure she sees the almost daily barrage of scare mongering directed at older women contemplating pregnancy like the rest of us do. If she gives it a go she’ll either succeed or not, like any other woman, any age.

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  28. lulutz

    Sonia leaves her answer vague, adopt, carry, or whatever? It is quite a personal question to ask someone. I finally got married at the age of 43, and to tell you the truth, I wanted to enjoy my new life with a husband without children, maybe I am being selfish, but at my age now at 50, and to have children I would be run ragged. I do not feel like being childless is a life sentance, in those terms, it is a life choice.

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  29. beee

    Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but I always think about the children of older parents. I’m not saying it’s the worst thing in the world but if Sonia had a baby she would be around 70 years old when the kid was rocking out at their 21st birthday. Again-not a terrible circumstance but I know I really want my mum around when I have kids and I want my kids to have a grandmother.
    {FYI I’m not having a go at Sonia (LOVE her! Especially in those sparkly pants!:D), it’s just what I think about when I hear of 50ish women talking about having children.}

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  30. Lil

    I think Sonia looks amazing for her age.

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  31. peta

    having just turned 35 and an information junkie I am all too well aware of risks and chances of having a baby naturally or otherwise. I am so blessed for the one I have but I feel it deep inside my bones the longing for another. but when you add the chances of meeting someone, getting married and then the time taken to conceive, maybe a baby isn’t in my future. I don’t cast judgement on anyone who makes an informed decision about bringing a child into the world.

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  32. Sweets

    “I also think there’s something in the idea that every woman in the public eye who doesn’t have children HAS to go through the motions of saying they haven’t ruled it out.

    Maybe because they genuinely haven’t (although nature tends to rule it out on our behalf over a certain age that’s closer to 40 than 47) or maybe they’re just mindful that in some parts of our society, there’s a lingering suspicion of childless women.”

    Yes I wonder about this. Have any famous childless women actually come out and said they don’t want children? I don’t recall any but I am really not up on the celebrity gossip. I think it’s still taboo too say you don’t want children.

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    • Anastasia Beaverhausen

      Cameron Diaz said she didn’t want children.

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    • Anon

      Oprah

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    • Karin

      … and Helen Mirren and Lily Tomlin …

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    • Karin

      Helen Mirren and Lily Tomlin have said they chose not to have kids.

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    • Karin

      … and Helen Mirren and Lily Tomlin

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    • Karin

      Ooops – sorry. The first and second times I commented it didn’t show up, then all three comments appeared. Not trying to be a spammer!

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    • Guest

      I feel they hounded Kylie with the question and she didn’t/doesn’t want them. Just a vibe I get. I think Kylie is made out to be by the media someone she isn’t (and she probably has a hand in that as well) – this cute little singing woman, the show girl. As opposed to a hard nosed entertainer and businesswoman who likes her life as it is. It is unfortunate few women in the public eye feel they can say they don’t want kids.

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      • anon

        I feel sorry for Kylie and think the questions about when she’s going to have a baby are really thoughtless. I remember her being really clucky in many interviews when she was younger. Anyone with half a brain knows that cancer treatment usually sends women her age into menopause so the poor woman probably had no choice in the matter about not having children but doesnt want to come out and tell the world she’s gone through early menopause.

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  33. Anon for this

    I had my first at 33 and my second at 38.
    From age 43 to 48 I used no contraception – and never fell pregnant – which is no surprise given the above statistics.
    However…my sister had her three children at age 40, 41 and 43 – and all were conceived naturally and are perfectly healthy.
    Sometimes, it’s just sheer luck – and I wish Sonia well, whatever she chooses to do.

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  34. Angelina Ballerina

    I think most women understand that fertility declines but a lot also believe fertility treatment/IVF is a foolproof backup.
    Fortunately for me and a handful of friends this has been true. Fertility treatment/IVF has been easily accessed and quickly followed by healthy pregnancies. Granted we were in our 30s not 40s.
    Unfortunately our relatively easy success has probably perpetuated the myth.

    At the moment freezing unfertilized eggs to be used at a later date is not reliable or encouraged. Fertilized eggs/embryos survive the process better but this isn’t much help if you haven’t met Mr Right yet.
    I think the technology will get there eventually. Imagine storing your eggs in your teens/20s when they are at the heslthiest and then not having to stress about meeting the right guy and starting a family before your biological clock explodes and genetic risks escalate.

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  35. Ange

    I conceived at 34 and whilst I was aware of the decrease in fertility age brings I was shocked when the Dr showed me the chances of birth abnormalities as a woman ages. I think more education on this is required. It is Russian roulette the older we get.

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    • another fab single woman

      Do you realise your last sentence rhymed?! It is Russian roulette the older we get.

      Quite catchy actually.

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  36. TG

    live and let live I say. Was Virginia Trioli not that age when she had her baby? Imagine Virginia as your mum. Wow…

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  37. kerr

    I read this earlier and just felt sad…

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    • Anonymous

      Why ? We cant have everything we so desire in life. She choose to fulfill an amazing career and put children on the back burner.. She needs to own he choices in life.

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      • Mosquitonet

        Did she say that? Or is that an assumption you’ve made? Genuine question, not being snarky.

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      • Kerr

        Why? Because having a child at 47 will be difficult, if it is at all possible. I felt sad that she was publicly saying she would still consider having children when chances are is will not happen for her.

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  38. Anonymous

    My grandmother was 42 when I was born.. So lovely to have her still alive and kicking at 84. Now a great grandmother of 7, she is mighty proud… What a lovely achievement. Personally I think Sonia Krugar has been talking about babies for too many years.. Like Kylie Minogue , its time to hang up the idea …

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    • kate

      Personally, I think it’s none of your business what Sonia does, or doesn’t wish for her womb.

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      • Natasha

        No it is none of our business but when the woman in question broadcasts her requests for a baby at 47, people in general will typically judge..

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  39. Blue22

    I’ve posted this before but I had my first at 42 and my second at 43, just 8 weeks ago. Easy perfect pregnancies and big healthy babies born at 41 weeks plus. I didn’t experience any of the things we are warned about like prematurity, low birth weight, high blood pressure etc. I have loads of energy and am pretty good at this gig! I also have the money to stay home and not send my kids to child care. it’s not a new thing – the difference is that our great grandmothers were having number 4 or 5 in their 40s instead of number one.

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  40. Kylie

    OMG Sonia is 47!! I hope I look that good at 47.
    Good on her, if she can do it then do it.
    Personally I wouldn’t do it. I always said I would love children before I was 30, luckily I did just that but I know a lot of women just don’t get the chance.
    Becoming a mother is the most amazing thing in the world and no one should be robbed of that if that’s what they want… Even at 47.

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  41. Anonymous

    Sadly at her age the probability is she is setting herself up for failure…Btw, did Nikki ever get her baby?

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    • picardie.girl

      Thanks Jamila! x

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  43. Lou

    My mother used to say “some people make great Aunts”, and at 31 years old and (intentionally) childless, I’m finally figuring out what she meant.
    You don’t have to be a biological mother (or even a biological Aunt) to provide love, care, and support to others.

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    • Pip C

      What a great comment! I was the proud aunty of 18 nieces and newphes and I really enjoyed the special relationship that I was able to have with them all. NOw I have my own baby boyand while I LOVE ing a Mum, I do miss a little that special relationship that you have with them all.

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    • anon

      You know that a great saying. In my mums day if a woman couldnt fall pregnant she accepted that was her lot in life and moved on. Today there is a belief that IVF will be the magical cure and it does build a womans hopes up. When that fails as well women do struggle to let go of their dream and accept that having a baby isnt going to happen for them.

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  44. Seahorse

    I also think there’s something in the idea that every woman in the public eye who doesn’t have children HAS to go through the motions of saying they haven’t ruled it out.”

    No they don’t. They could publicly set a good example and say that they feel the risks to both mum and baby are too great at that late age.

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    • Lou

      I think Mia is actually making the same point as you. Society expects women to want children, and are generally distrustful of women who don’t express a maternal desire.
      It’s also interesting that motherless female celebrities invariably have their credentials as step-mother/aunt/godmother etc. listed – not sure if the equivalent usually happens with male celebrities who do not have children.

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  45. Sara h

    Oooohhhhh I wish I looked that good and I’m not 47! There are pros to being an older mum like financial stability and maturity, women that age know the risks they aren’t stupid so it’s totally up to them! Not sure why people feel the need to point out how difficult it is! It’s difficult any time, five children, two miscarriages and one child via ivf ( blocked tubes due to undiagnosed infection after child three) and that was all before 36!

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  46. Faybian

    I would hope that awareness of female fertility is rising. There is more talk of it nowadays than in, say, the 80s.

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  47. Natasha

    I think most women are smart enough and are aware of their biological clock but too many women want their career to be their priority until they wake up at 40 and perhaps realise that the briefcase is all there is to life. Then the panic begins…

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  48. Cate

    My parents didn’t marry until they were 40 and 44 and then had me the year after. They tried to have another baby but it just didn’t happen. Growing up, I never got ‘why are your parents so much older?’ and I never really thought about it. That being said, I do worry that they won’t be around or be able to be as active when I have kids of my own. I never had grandparents and desperately want my mum and dad to be involved in my children’s lives. I feel very blessed to have such wonderful parents and love the life experiences and lessons they’ve been able to impart.

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  49. Lily

    Meanwhile, SHE’S 47???? She’s clearly a genetic freak (in a good way). If her ovaries look as good as the rest of her, who knows what’s possible.

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    • Natasha

      She has had plenty of help let’s not be delusional.

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  50. Anonymous

    Wish me luck, three weeks until our first is due after falling pregnant two months after coming off 20 years of contraception.
    Right now after a very easy pregnancy feeling like the luckiest girl in the world; until the sleepless nights start when I am sure I will feel all my 41 years in a few weeks time!

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    • Sara h

      Best of luck….remember birth plans are great except bub didn’t sign :) …. Ps kiss sleep goodbye

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      • c

        Such a negative comment! Why do we feel the need to warn expectant first time mums that they will get less sleep? And the grumpy birth plan comment – how do you even know that she has one? I think she probably knows that sleep patterns will change once the baby arrives, and that unexpected things can happen during delivery. Rather than pointing out the bleeding obvious, I’d rather say all the very best anonymous, what a special and exciting time welcoming your new little one.

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