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Something changed at Mamamia this week and you can almost hear the sighs of relief.

On Monday we announced a revision of our comment guidelines (which you can read about here.) Comments are such an important part of the Mamamia site and the Mamamia community. We love the way Mamamia readers come to this site to talk, to debate, to offer their differences of opinion.

darth troll 380x233 Open Post: whats on your mind?BUT (yes there’s a but…) as the site’s grown, the dinner party conversation we’ve prided ourselves on has changed. There’s more guests than we’re ever had before and while most have been welcomes with open arms, there have been the occasional gate crashers who’ve brought the tone of conversation down.

As we wrote earlier this week:

Please be clear: you do not have a RIGHT to have your comment published here on Mamamia. Just like you get to decide what comments from other people you leave up on your Facebook wall, we get to decide what is published here. As does every other website.

That’s why we decided the MM team and the MM community moderators need to be more actively deleting any comments that are rude or disrespectful to any of our authors, the MM team or to other commenters. We want you to tell us your opinion. To enter the debate. But if you can’t make your point without being bitchy or snarky or just downright mean  – we don’t want to hear it. And we won’t help you broadcast it to our wonderful community.

Here’s a rundown of our new policy, which appears at the bottom of every post we run on the site:

Imagine you’re at a dinner party. Different opinions are welcome but keep it respectful or the host will show you the door. We have zero tolerance for any abuse of our writers, our editorial team or other commenters. So if you’re rude, mean-spirited, snarky, aggressive, defamatory or bitchy, your comment will be deleted (so will any replies to the original comment – so don’t bother arguing with rude people, instead just hit the ‘alert moderator’ button).

And if you’re offensive, you’ll be blacklisted and all your comments will go directly to spam. Remember what Fonzie was like? Cool. That’s how we’re going to be – cool. Have fun and thanks for adding to the conversation…

Anyway, since we made the announcement on Monday, we’ve been overwhelmed with the positive response to the changes.  Our writers are relieved and so are our readers.

Already the site has a nicer feel about it. The debate is still there – but it’s being had nicely. And we’re rapt.

And there’s just one more thing. You’ve probably noticed that Mamamia is one of the few sites where comments appear as soon as they’re posted. But we’re thinking about making a change to that too.

We’re toying with the idea of pre-moderating comments. Pre-moderation is what most sites – like The Punch, Mumbrella and all news sites  – do. Basically, it means that comments will be approved by us BEFORE they go live. It’d be a way for us to make sure that any comments that don’t follow the dinner party rules don’t make it to onto the site.

The key for the conversation to continue to flow is to pre-moderate in as close as possible to real-time and we’re working out how that will be possible.

Your feedback is important to us and we want to hear it. Every couple of weeks we’ll be publishing a feedback post where we can reply to comments and questions about the site more specifically.

Of course, this is still our regular Open Post of the Week so of course we want to hear what’s been happening in your world. The good, the bad and the ugly. Everything is welcome at this party – expect of course those aforementioned comments that break the dinner party rules icon smile Open Post: whats on your mind? We will nuke their arses.

Here’s what else has been happening at the Mamamia office and on social media this week.

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Comment Guidelines : Imagine you’re at a dinner party. Different opinions are welcome but keep it respectful or the host will show you the door. We have zero tolerance for any abuse of our writers, our editorial team or other commenters. So if you’re rude, mean-spirited, snarky, aggressive, defamatory or bitchy, your comment will be deleted (so will any replies to the original comment – so don’t bother arguing with rude people, instead just hit the ‘alert moderator’ button).
And if you’re offensive, you’ll be blacklisted and all your comments will go directly to spam. Remember what Fonzie was like? Cool. That’s how we’re going to be – cool. Have fun and thanks for adding to the conversation…

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394 Comments so far

  1. Nikki

    Hi All.

    Was chatting to the Mamamia team this week and they thought I should share about a new community project we have started in Bondi Junction with their open post community.

    It’s called Timbre and its a not for profit cafe on the Oxford St Mall. It is primarily a work skills program for disadvantaged young people living in the local community but is also a place to get a great coffee with friends!

    If you are in the area we’d love to meet you!

    And a big thanks to the Mamamia guys for allowing us to post.

    Nikki

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  2. monkeyboyzmum

    I just wanted to politely say the pop ups on the new mobile site are so annoying that I have not read several articles because I couldnt see them under the horrendous pop up telling me it was my first time on the mobile site, which I have attempted to access on three different mobile devices. no success yet, but have viewed the pop up at least fifteen times grrr

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    • Mia

      Pop-ups are not actually meant to be there like that. Was a bug. Now fixed! I think…..

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      • monkeyboyzmum

        this page has crazy gallery pop ups on my tablet and now it wont load at all on my ipod and android phone. sorry to bring yuou bad news.

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        • Steve

          Probably not the site, but your browser might be infected. There is a lot of it about unfortunately.

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  3. LouEm

    OMM: My gallbladder! I have gallstones at the moment and am a few weeks away from getting it removed. I can’t wait!! The pain is awful, I had a few good weeks where I had no pain, but I spoke to soon and it is back. 3 weeks off work which uses up all my sick leave, boo!

    Surgeon told me at my consult that I need to stop taking the pill now (a few weeks out from surgery) as the extra estrogen can cause blood clots. I was fine with that as I am on my sugar pills at the moment so will stay off it until a week post op. Partner gave me a surprised look when the doctor told us (as we don’t use condoms, both are not a fan of the feeling) so will be using the pull out method from now. Partner said what’s the worst that coud happen (with a cheeky smile)…. so who knows maybe we could go into this having something removed… only to have a little something start growing.

    We are all over the place with our planning of kids, one day we decide next year, one day we decide next week. I think we will just let the fertitilty gods decide?? :)

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  4. fifi-lulu

    Like your new commenting policy. Pity that you have to spell it out to some people that nasty comments are not welcome. Everyone has different views and we as adults should respect them, isn’t that the point of this site anyway?

    OMM: Just came back from a 2 week family holiday to Sydney, Noosa, Brisbane and the Gold Coast. Love Queensland – why has it taken me so long to get back there – the answer is babies.

    Highlights were obviously the theme parks for the kids (and myself).
    Special note: best (breakfast) buffet ever experienced at QT Gold Coast in the Bazaar restaurant. We weren’t even staying there but I heard about it and gave it a go and sheesh, just fab. Like Dilmah says, ‘do try it’.

    Close second was Sir Stamford at Circular Quay but for different reasons (excellent, attentive service, anything you want made to order).

    Worst: Am now officially the heaviest I’ve ever been in my entire life. Damn, you buffets, damn you!

    Best: Back in Adelaide where I barely buffet at all, weight should drop off.

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  5. It's not clear

    I dont understand the ‘please be clear’ is it meant to say ‘to be clear’?

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  6. Nat

    Is it me or you MM, my ipad connects automatically to the mobile version…??

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  7. another fab single woman

    Oh Lordy – steaming H O T colleague just walked in to my office to reply in person to an email I just sent him (strictly professional) and I think he may have just eye-fkd me! My lower belly did a huge tumble inside! Who does that at 11.30am?! Whoa. Sorry to be a little crass, but he’s the kind of guy that makes me want to run and purchase sexy underwear on my lunch break. He’s a little bit Dr Patrick Reid, and his visit was totally unexpected.

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    • maggie

      Hehehe that is awesome! I miss that feeling.

      Sounds like you have a great work place :)

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    • Anonymoose

      Is there a bad time of day for that to happen? Yum yum

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      • another fab single woman

        I suspect he can fertilise women from ten paces. I haven’t been able to wipe the grin off my face all day. I feel like I wickedly consumed a chocolate soft centred pudding for breakfast. Eye candy extraordinaire. lol

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  8. Anonymous

    Same! It’s driving me a little bit crazy because I normally read mamamia on the iPad.

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  9. F

    Is there a way to turn off the mobile site when on an iPad? Not really a fan of it and prefer the normal site. I’ve tried clicking on go to full site at the bottom of the page but it doesn’t work.

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    • Anonymous

      yes, PLEASE give us an option! I just don’t like mobile sites in general

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      • Anonymous

        How about now? It’s normal mamamia on my iPad.

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        • F

          All good on my iPad now. Glad it changed back. Too hard to read on the mobile site

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  10. OssieLeo

    Your mother should feel lucky to have you in her life (I know she won’t) you are a fantastic daughter. Your first and main responsibility in your life is YOU and your daughter. I would do what another commenter said and tell your mother that you received a notice to leave. Also, I would speak to the agent and explain the situation, they might not be happy but they can help you in case she is refusing to leave.
    I feel for you and sending you a big hug. Good luck xx

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  11. Jette

    Hey kaufman, it sucks feeking lonely, even when i have all my family and friends around me i can still feel alone. You’re so young and you have so much yet to experience. I think it’s awesome that u have so much love to give, so how about you fill some of your loneliness by sharing some of your love to volunteer organisations. You will feel so good and they will appreciate it beyond words. You will eventually find your place in the world whether it’s in a career or as a mum or wife or whatever but until then, use your heart and love for something worthwhile. X

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  12. Grace

    Getting so annoyed about the adds that come up next to my facebook feed! No I do not want to go on a diet for a bikini body or join a group looking at the gaps between girls thighs in various undies! Thanks facebook I can see you know what I’m interested in!

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  13. AussieinSaudi

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for the new commenting policy. While I have been visiting Mamamia for years this is only the second comment I’ve made. I have always been a bit nervous about commenting.

    The tone has changed in the last week and it’s all for the better. I must admit I would find myself reading through the snarky comments and like some reality tv show I wanted to look away but couldn’t. Often I’d find myself feeling ‘yucky’ after reading them.

    So thank you for returning Mamamia to the lovely home I’ve been coming too. For me being so far from Australia, I really find it is piece of home I can sit down and have a cuppa with while my two year old snoozes away the 45 degree plus Saudi Arabian afternoon.

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    • attt

      Ditto – feeling ‘yucky’ after reading through the posts. I decided to not read as much, even as far as limiting myself to the open posts to avoid the negativity and how it made me feel. Life is too short for that. I am glad the issue is being addressed.

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    • Mia

      * waves *

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  14. kaufman

    I tried posting this before but I don’t think it went through.
    I would like some advice. I’m 18 and I think I am the most lonely person I’ve ever known. I don’t have any siblings and I have a poor relationship with both of my parents. My mother was emotionally and physically abusive and my father was largely absent. Last year I had a romantic relationship where the boy was emotionally manipulative and borderline abusive (controlling, whinger, sulking if he didn’t get his way, would touch me in ways I did not want) I feel like I will never have a relationship or a family. It hurts me to be around couples and happy families because all I see is something I won’t have. I am torn – part of me wants to give up and accept that I will be alone forever, but part of me wants to stay hopeful. I know I am only young but I have always wanted to have a family whilst I am young. I’m not sure what I want in regards to my career but I have always felt certain that I wanted a family. I feel like I have so much love to give but there’s nobody to receive it. I do have friends, but most of them are in relationships and as such don’t devote much time to our friendship. Does anybody have any advice?

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    • Grace

      Stay strong. You never know what fantastic things could be right around the corner. My advice is keep busy and try as many new activities as you can, you will soon meet people. Sometimes the best family is the one we make for ourselves.

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    • guest

      Are you studying/working? Uni/Tafe and work can be great places to meet new people and make friends. Keep on your mates about hanging out- go to the movies, go shopping, or just hang out at the mall.

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    • Jette

      Hey kaufman, i thought i replied to your comment but it appears as a comment further up. X

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    • soph22

      Oh, sweetheart.. I remember feeling the exact same way at 18. I actually attempted suicide out of sheer loneliness. Eight years on, I am married with a beautiful family of my own and great friends.

      You never know what your future holds. Keep going xoxo

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  15. sjb1273

    OMM1: Very happy to have finished the pile of marking, report writing and data collation that I achieved today, even though it was my day off.

    OMM2: I hate, hate, HATE with a passion the stupid spare tyre that has crept up around my stomach. I have no issues being the size that I am (16) and curvy, but I need to lose the spare tyre. So I hired a treadmill and it was delivered this morning. I did my catch-up work, had a delicious organic vegan lunch at a great local cafe, came home and did 40 minutes of very fast walking while watching The West Wing. And felt *well* self-satisfied.

    I then ate best part of a 250g packet of chocolate covered bullets while finishing a last bit of correction this afternoon BECAUSE I AM AN IDIOT WITH NO SELF CONTROL. Part of my mind screams ‘you fool! YOU FOOL!’ while the other part shoves some chocolate in its open mouth to shut it up and another part thinks ‘well, you are pre-menstrual, this isn’t normal behaviour.’

    I know this losing the spare tyre business will take a couple of months; no probs. And I eat exceptionally well for 90% of the time. But I feel like such an idiot – regressed straight back to 16 year old me with food and body shame. ARGH!

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    • Anon

      I’ve been using http://www.fitnesspal.com.au for the last couple of weeks and it’s definitely helped with my binge eating. It helped me moderate what I eat and makes you realise that having one or two chocolate bullets isn’t the end of the world, which makes you less likely to eat the other 20!

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  16. Mookums

    First time comment but I just couldn’t contain my excitement today!
    OMM- QCS is over! But I don’t know what I want to do with myself next year… Any advice?

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    • Mia

      Congrats! So very exciting for you! Xxx

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    • iroe

      Do something you like! Not something you “think” will be a good idea. So many of my friends hated uni, and are there for many years with half started degrees here and there.
      If you have no idea what you like, then maybe try experiencing a bit more of the world in a year off or a working year… and you might find out :)

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      • Mookums

        Thanks!
        That is probably the best advice I’ve recieved. Everyone keeps saying do engineering but I don’t know that I’d be very good at that at all…

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  17. essessesse

    I like the new commenting policy. It was getting a bit nasty in here and I know a lot of the ‘oldies’ were missing in action. Hopefully things will improve.

    Loving the warmer weather!

    OMM – the last two assignments for my Masters. I’ve hit the wall and I just wish it was done and dusted.

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  18. kateb

    Dieting/ exercise!!!! Is there any other word that causes a level of frenzy with various people. I have had it, I am standing back and saying my life is more important that being thin!!!!!

    You people out there that love exercising, who love really “healthy” food, BACK OFF!!!!

    Sorry, sorry, sorry!!!!! I have just had a bad week.

    Until I was 50 I had no trouble , I was a size 8 or 10. I had two children and was back to my weight within 3 months. But after a few years of illness I put on weight , up to a size 22!!! When I was well I worked hard on losing this weight, I made a size 14 but it takes a lot of work .

    Since I have retired I have lunch dates with friends I have happy hour in the afternoon with neighbours. To keep myself at a 14 I have to do about 3 hours of exercise a day, and stick to a really boring diet.

    I don’t like exercise !!!!!! I am bored with exercise!!!!! I want to spend time on my history of the family, I want to read, I want to etc.

    Done, I am done, I will die of obesity!!!! Well so far I have no cholesterol problems, I have no diabetes, no cardio problems , I have no health problems!!!! We will see.

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    • little jojo

      KateB – there’s so much of your post that I agree with. While I endorse healthy eating and exercise for health reasons (not for aesthetic reasons) I think that ultimately we need to engage in behaviours that make us the happiest – I love your attitude xxx

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    • Hazz

      Im not a fan of doing gruelling workouts either. But i love love love playing sport (mainly hockey- indoor and outdoor). Why dont you join a sporting club r a local dance class? I do ballet as well and it doesnt actually feel like excercise :)

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    • CaramelloKoala

      Why do you mean by ‘You people out there that love exercising, who love really “healthy” food, BACK OFF!!!!’.

      Back off what? Going to the gym?

      My hour and a half and the gym each day is the reason I’m not a depressive mess. For me, getting my exercise keeps me off the anti-depressants, so no, I won’t ‘back off’ my exercise schedule.

      Exercise. Don’t Exercise. Diet. Don’t Diet. Do what you want, but I don’t think other people’s choices need to be put down in such a manner :-)

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      • Kris2040

        I like going to the gym too. I’m no gym bunny, but I like achieving my goals and getting to the end of the workout! I’ve even started putting KDot back to sleep and going at 4.30 in the morning! It’s surprisingly packed really early!

        I’ve even started running at the gym – I’ve just started 3x1KM (500m recovery) intervals on the treadmill, and was super excited to find I can do that at the same speed I was doing 90 sec intervals at! Woot!

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  19. catwoman

    Omm: kids… i want some. I’ve said it before but coming on the mm site makes me so clucky. I’ve been married for about three years and love my husband to bits and cant wait to have his babies! He wants to wait as we’re o/s at the moment in a 3rd world country so med facilities practically dont exist so my safest option would be a home birth. But i am so clucky i would be willing to give it a go, despite being shit scared cos it’d be my first. We’re not due back to ozland til about a year or so, so he doesnt even want to start trying til we head back. But im afriad we wont fall pregnant straight away so i want to start trying now! But then we risk falling pregnant quickly so we cant take the chance.

    I think the best thing to do is wait but i’ve never felt this clucky before i honestly feel like i have so much love to give a little bubs its starting to get a little painful…

    There’s no option in going back home sooner or going back just to have the baby… we have to wait. I’ll just keep telling myself itll be worth the wait and maybe my extra longing for the baby will make me appreciate it more if/when it comes!

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    • Caro

      My cousin just had her first baby 5 weeks early. An emergency cesearian after an unexpected heamorrhage. Mum and bub doing well, but only because they live in Australia. It will be worth the wait.
      Good luck.

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    • Zepgirl

      Don’t have a homebirth if you’re scared of homebirth. If the place that you’ll feel safest is at hospital, then home is not for you! I reckon you’re best off just waiting until you come back to Australia. You could use the time between then and now preparing to get pregnant by eating really well and charting your cycle to figure out when you ovulate and so on. Good luck!

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  20. Haven Maven

    Happy Hump day, MMers.

    Bit of a shit week. My contract was finished yesterday, Apparently my manager hadn’t been managing my workload properly, and I knew nothing of this, but because he is a permanent and I was a temp, guess who got to go. And there are also other full time staff who have finished other projects who are at a loose end, so had to be utilised. Just pissed off that I got no notice. I made a big deal about that to my boss and he’s agreed to pay me out the week. Had a cry, and a whinge to my agent.

    Today is another day, Scarlett. Updated the cv, sent out a bunch of updates to agencies and applied for a few new contracts, then went and had sushi and baby snuggles with my gf and her gorgeous 13 week old cherub. He was such a boy. Couldn’t lift his eyes above my tits, and then when he did the look on his face was priceless. It was ‘OMG you have a face!!’

    Off to kareoke tonight. Might even drink too much!

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  21. Bec

    OMM – the 5 soldiers returning home today. Reading the statements from their families was heart breaking. One of them has a baby on the way. So sad to think that baby boy will never meet his Dad.

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  22. Jackson

    I vote for post moderation in the first instance and then on touchy topics any comments would go into pre moderation after say 7pm when the team needs a break and the pre moderation comes off again the following morning.

    Also reserve the right to put a really hot topic onto pre moderation if the team is short staffed or the topic is getting to hot to handle.
    You do not need moderation on quite a few posts here, such as Best/Worst, Open post etc.
    You don’t need a blanket moderation rule for every post.
    Trust in the community you have to alert you to any comments that need to be looked at.

    Also consider an easier way to alert moderator.
    Something that just involved clicking a button and nothing else, people get turned off from having to do an email to advise of a comment.

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  23. Carisma

    OMM & FWP – I can finally afford to go to my favourite hair salon this month (I only go to it maybe once a year now since I am ‘being good’ and they’re expensive) and I can’t decide what to do with my grown-out balayage (I’m talking a third blonde tips, a third grown-out brassy base colour and a third natural mousey dark blonde hair)

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    • Dana

      Oh do a toner! My hairdresser superstar got me onto this. Cheap, blends balayage really well & looks fab

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  24. Happymum

    Please don’t hide comments until approval, what if there isn’t anyone around to approve the comment. People won’t stick around if commenting is slow!

    Also, don’t thumbs down like Regretsy. I can see people using the power for evil against certain people no matter what they say eg. – Bradley for example.

    I am short with this comment as it is playing up again and eating it into nothingness! Sorry I sound bossy on this comment, I just want to get it down before it crashes!

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  25. Pumba

    I have recently (2 weeks ago) stopped taking the pill. We want to start trying for a baby in about a years time, and thought that going off the pill for awhile beforehand was a good idea.

    OMM is
    My face has broken out – I seem to have new pimples on my face everytime I look in the mirror. I already have a reasonable cleansing routine.
    My question is – will this settle on its own, or do I need to step up my cleansing routine ???

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    • Julia

      I’d suggest step up.

      When I went off the pill my skin went crazy for about 4-5 months!

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      • Bec

        This happened to me too, my Dr said you only really need to go off the pill a few months before you start trying as your cycles usually go back to normal fairly quickly. Maybe talk to your GP.

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    • Cait

      As someone who went off the pill and onto the implant, even my skin went nuts while my body adjusted – you arent alone!

      One thing that really helped me, was stepping up my cleansing (making it 2 minutes of thorough cleansing, with a gentle cleanser). But the biggest thing for me was actually diet. I did heaps of research on healthy things you can eat/drink to give your skin a fighting chance. I do my own lazy persons version of the Kimberley Snyder ‘Glowing Green Smoothie’ which I have every morning (the lazy way is throw 1 cup of water, a big handfull of spinach, chopped banana, chopped pear, chopped apple, chopped celery and fresh juice of one lemon in the blender. get it to the consistency you like. One batch lasts 2 days). I also have a tablespood of unfiltered apple cider vineager each morning before breakfast which helps but isnt the easiest thing to stomach.

      Now my ‘breakout triggers’ dont achieve the massive results they used to.

      Hope your skin settles down soon!

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      • MissV

        You can get apple cider vinegar with honey in it if that helps!

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    • Emma

      Get on the Inner Health Plus, seriously! It works! Two a day and in 7-14 days you will notice the difference. And lots and lots of water – give you body a good flush out. It probably wouldn’t hurt going to have a good cleaning facial as well. Your changing hormones means your skin is trying to adjust and it probably just needs some help.

      Good luck!

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  26. little jojo

    OMM: it’s been a long week and it’s only Wednesday. Really busy with uni and work. It’s also been a tough week with my ED; I was doing really well and relapsed on the weekend. I’m starting to pull myself back out of it though, reminding myself how far I’ve come since I started recovery almost 2 years ago.

    OMM 2: wedding planning and inviting guests. We’ve invited my fiance’s mum and step dad. They live in WA, but were here visiting last weekend. They didn’t bother to see us, nor have they even congratulated us on our engagement or responded to the Save the Date we sent out 3 weeks ago (I know they received it as my SIL told me). I personally don’t want them to come to the wedding, but we’ve invited them as it’s the ‘right’ thing to do. Any advice on what to do? If they don’t reply to the Save the Date, do we follow up on it?

    Shameless plug: if you’re interested in health, fitness, body image etc, check out my Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/AHealthyParadigm

    Oopsyboops – Did you receive my reply to your message?

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  27. Cordeline

    OMM: it’s still 5 sleeps away, but I am going to Sydney for a couple of nights next week. I cannot wait. My husband has a conference to go to and I am tagging along thanks to frequent flyer points. We have never left both the girls before so I hope they are going to be happy with their grandparents. But I am so looking forward to the break.

    I went shopping for a little while this morning as I had to get some birthday presents for people and a pair of pink/red ankle boots just happened to jump into my hands and find their way home with me. The site of them makes me so happy. So shallow, I know.

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    • picardie.girl

      I had a pair of red shoes as a little girl that I just LOVED. Even now I remember them and still have a thing for red shoes. Enjoy :)

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  28. emilyjh87

    Slightly off topic but the new mobile site- its automatically coming up on my desktop mac and I don’t know how to go back to the ordinary version? Any ideas?

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      Sorry Emily, we’re just having a couple of minor issues. Try a CTRL + R, should help :)

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  29. Julia

    Can MM do a post with christmas gift ideas?

    I know its early but I like to start thinking up ideas in advance as it generally means more thughtful presents and it allows me time to buy online and sdave money.

    I have my boyfriends birthday in november and then xmas so I need double ideas for him.

    Does any one else start planning in advance?

    Any cool ideas?

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    • Cordeline

      Yes! A Christmas gift ideas post starting soon would be excellent.

      I like to plan in advance for Christmas because I find the shops too stressful in November and December!

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      • Julia

        Same – I cannot stand to be in a Westfields for more than 5 minutes when everyone is Christmas shopping.

        Plus its so nice to be able to relax in the days leading up to xmas, rather than rushing around.

        Around this time each year I make a list of people to buy for and start mulling over ideas. At the moment, I am drawing a massive blank!

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    • little jojo

      Love the idea for a Christmas presents post!

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      • bubble

        As long as its not a promotion for a specific brand or product. But an article with present ideas, where to nab bargains etc would be great.

        Last year I found a US website that sold (legit) OPI nailpolishes for $5 each so I bought up big and shared them out amongst my girlfriends. Went down a treat! I’m keen to hear other ideas.

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      Great idea! We’ll keep it in mind. (And it’s never to early for Christmas)

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      • Cordeline

        Yes, we need time to decide which gingerbread house to make too!

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        • Chrissy

          My nanna starts making her fruitcakes about now, gives her time to soak it with an entire bottle of alcohol ; )

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          • Cordeline

            That reminds me! I need to make my Nana’s Christmas Pudding recipe in October. It’s when she used to do it. I wouldn’t eat Christmas Pudding if someone paid me, but I just love to make her recipe and have the pudding hanging up in it’s calico cloth for a few months. It’s a lovely reminder of her.

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    • Carisma

      My boyfriend’s birthday is 2 days before Christmas, it’s the worst!

      I have family on the other side of Australia that I won’t be seeing at or before Christmas but my mother is visiting them next month so I have already purchased and WRAPPED gifts for my niece to send over to save on postage (I told Mum I’ll do the save when I go over at Easter)

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      • Dotti

        Carisma, your comment struck a note with me, as my birthday is two days before christmas. it is a pain and this year, I get the double whammy of it being the 40. One of my neices wanted to swap with me once, but I convinced her that her birthday in June was a much better idea!

        One thing I am really grateful for, is that my parents, family and husband have never done the combined birthday/christmas present. Up to I turned 21, they my family alway’s made the effort to see me on my birthday and not wrap up into Christmsas – a very big thank you from me!

        As for Christmas shopping, my best friend and I set a Saturday aside in October and get it done. I normally hate shopping, but this is always a fun day (and we have a lovely lunch as well).

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  30. Zepgirl

    Aaarrggghh! Every time I go to sign in it takes me to the mobile site.

    Moderators: help!

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  31. Dolly Levi

    Jamila your dinner sounds like mine, usually after ive inhaled the chips (Thins lightly salted are usually my chip of choice) i try and make up for it by having something healthy then when im still hungry i think stuff it and inhale half a block of chocolate.
    Most of the time all of the above are inhaled while standing at the kitchen sink :(
    Note to self: buy a stool

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  32. beansbeansthemagicalfruit

    Happy Wednesday everyone!

    OMM – Social media, Mamamia, the role online friends and acquaintances play in my life either good or bad.

    What happened with Charlotte Dawson affected me more than I would’ve expected considering I barely knew of her before this. It made me reconsider my presence and conduct online, whether certain sites and social media tools are even worth my time and if those tools and the people I’ve ‘met’ through them are doing me more harm than good.

    On that note though: Maybe two months ago Mamamia posted a brilliant article from a single mother talking about her experience and feelings each time her children went for visits with their father. I had just started that process myself the week before so that article really resonated with me, to the point I was so emotional I couldn’t even comment at first other than to say that I at some point hoped to share my own story.

    As the night went on though, the supportive comments readers were leaving for each other and the deeply personal stories they were sharing gave me enough guts to finally let it all out there. Complete with snot dripping on the keyboard and the ugly crying face. I had been overwhelmed with friends, lawyers and family who were trying to help but were too close to the situation themselves to give constructive advice. However the replies I received here were not only extremely encouraging but people shared their own experiences that gave me much needed hope and realistic tools to try to cope with it all. They helped to remove some of my fear and as crazy as I know this sounds considering those people are complete strangers, everyone who commented in that article changed a big chunk of that aspect of my life and the attitude I had towards this whole situation.

    My ex and I went from needing a stranger to facilitate the handover of our child each week to us privately agreeing to handle the visits ourselves and *gasp* actually try to communicate with each other rather than strictly via lawyers. I’ve even enthusiastically agreed to increase the time they spend together past the court ordered allotment and suggested changing days around so he had the chance to spend time with our son on both his birthday and Father’s Day.

    Anyone who knows me in real life or even those who were commenting in there that night would understand how big of steps these were for me especially in such a short period of time. We’re back in court next week and I’m not kidding myself that we’ll be farting rainbows… there are still some massive issues to deal with. But at least I’ll be walking in there with a much different viewpoint and a bit of experience and virtual moral support under my belt. Thank you sounds so inadequate but I’m not sure what else to say.

    So after that long ramble: There are a group of us who tend to flock to Mamamia well after the staff have signed off for the night. Whether it’s because the kids are in bed, we’ve had a glass of wine, we work late, night owls, live overseas, whatever. And often that time of night and the relative quiet of Mamamia encourages the most honest and open discussion.

    Selfishly, to think that the conversation we were having in that particular article wouldn’t have happened… or at least would have been significantly slowed down… really is a shame. The fact that dialogue happens in real-time is a big reason this site feels very much like talking with friends and builds a sense of community. I worry that pre-moderation will lead to the disjointed comments I see on other major sites where they strike me as watching 100 people posting their comment on a sterile wall, walking away never to return until the next article appears. I don’t even bother commenting on those sites because it’s almost like talking to myself and I do enough of that as it is! Just my opinion of course. :)

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    • Bunny

      What a great post, beans. That must have taken courage and strength to write. Good luck for your next court visit.

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    • Caro

      Beans, you’ve hit the nail on the head. This is the only fourm I go to. The others seem so distant and disconnected, which may not matter if the discussion is about shopping or Tom Cruise, but if you’re talking about divorce, abuse, suffering of any kind then the flow of interaction is very important.
      Thanks Beans

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    • chef

      Yes, yes, yes

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  33. Genna

    OMM #1: I took the plunge and decided to dye my blonde (but naturally brunette) hair back to brunette. I was super nervous, but am super happy with the results!

    OMM #2: For the next five weeks I’ve been given the opportunity to act in a leadership capacity at my school. I’ve been teaching for just over four years and am excited at the opportunity to be Senior Teacher. While I enjoy the organisational and leadership aspects of the role, I am not enjoying the behaviour management part. Becoming a Senior Teacher-AP-Principal was never really in my grand plan. I was more interested in Assessment and Reporting or Programming. So I am using the behaviour management part of the role as a learning experience. I’ve only been in the role for a week and a half, but I think it is letting me know that the Senior Teacher path may not be the path for me…

    OMM #3: Bali vaccinations. I am going to Bali for the first time in four weeks. I am going for only four days and four nights. I went to the doctor on Monday hoping to get jabbed for Hep and Typhoid. Instead of the expected jabs, I got a prescription for the Flu vax (something I avoid – I know that sounds negligent, but most people who I know who have had the flu vax, then get quite sick), a prescription for Typhoid tablets and a blood test order to check my immunity for Hep A & C. I am now thinking of only taking the Typhoid tablets and giving the blood test and flu vax a miss. I am only going for four days. I don’t intend on getting any tattoos or having random sex with strangers. Plus my friend insists we got vaccinated for Hep A & C in high school. I’ve had friends (and their kids) go to Bali with no vaccinations whatsoever. What do you guys think I should do?

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    • Sam

      I used to work at a travel clinic so can say this with a bit of knowledge…Most GPs don’t really know what they are doing when it comes to travel vaccinations, as they don’t get the updates and WHO recommendations. Hepatitis A and typhoid are the two main ones you have to worry about. Hep A you generally get through food, and you generally wouldn’t have been vaccinated unless you work in healthcare and got a Twinrix (Hep A and B, lasts 10+ years) or if you have traveled before. There is no vaccine for Hep C, which is the bloodborne one. Bali is relatively Western, and as you are only going for four days you could take the change. We would have recommended a combined Hep A/Typhoid vax, which is particularly handy if you are going to travel again soon. The typhoid part lasts 3 years, the Hep A one requires a booster after a year then should last 10+ years. Flu is probably as common there as it is here, so you take your chance with that.

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    • MJ

      I think you might mean Hep B not C. Hep A isn’t generally given in school because it’s not one we’re really exposed to in Australia.
      I think it’s well worth getting the blood test and the flu vax, even though this is a short trip to a relatively touristy country, you are probably going to need it over the next few years for future trips anyway. May as well know you’re covered right.

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    • LaLaLauren

      Get the flu vac.

      I avoided it too until i get the flu bad last year. Got it this year, no side effects and didn’t get sick at all. If you get it now, and by the off chance you do get sick, you’ve still got 4 weeks to recover before your holiday.

      I went to Bali last year and we all came back (to Darwin) with colds/flu. I didn’t get any jabs before I went.

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    • Natalia

      I’ve been to Bali twice and didn’t get vaccinations for either trip, my friend’s dad is a GP so we went off his recommendation – plus my parents are travel nuts. I was ok :)

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  34. Seahorse

    Like begets like.

    I think the new policy is super, but ifMM publishes snarky articles or the mm team leave comments with bitchy overtones, the site is going to attract a certain readership whom that appeals to. Just a thought. You guys need to set a good example too.

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  35. stacey87

    Hi everyone, hope our weeks are going swell :) I need some advice, about a touchy family issue. The situation is this. I am a single mum, 25, with a 3year old, currently renting through a real estate. I recently moved here as the previous unit I lived in I had to share with my Mum, even though it was fully in my name and I was legally the only adult tenant occupying the home. I let my Mum move in as she is 50, no assetts, job, car, lives week to week through her pension and disability payments (she has poor vision, not blind just limited distance sight).

    My mum has consistent temper outbursts and has been like this all my life, due to some poor choices on her part regarding drugs, parenting, lack of ambition/job etc. What a spiral… Anyway. When I moved out into my new house, I agreed to let my Mum stay in the old unit by herself as long as she transferred the rent into my account weekly, and no damage to the property etc. She is unable to apply to rent in her name dueto a lifetime of being blacklisted, property damage, etc etc.

    The situation I am in now is that sheis struggling to pay the rent weekly, and is constantly a few days late which is being marked as a weekly default on my rental history, I am so worried that when I need to move again I will struggle to be approved by any agent when they see “my” history. It is such a ridiculous situation and I hate being in it. I would not offer this to anyone else, but she is my mother and family and I basically had very little choice. I understand that my mum cannot pay the rent if she doesn’t have the money, but I do not want to have to fork out myself just to support her, when I am paying almost my weekly wage in rent for my daughter and I in my new house, struggling to buy a car and saving in general.

    I need advice as to what I should do, options etc. My mum is very very hostile towards me and becomes very emotional and abusive when I approach her about the situation. All I wantis for her to regain a level of self sufficiency and for me to be responsible for only myself and my daughter, not supporting her as well, in a time when I am a parent, studying and part time working, ie struggling to stay afloat as it is!

    Is it wrong of me to end the lease at my mum’s place and ask her to find housing else where, like a women’s shelter or share accommodation etc (she has tried both of these to no luck in the past.) I am so worried as it is that my old real estate agent will realise that my name is on the lease yet I am not the tenant, and the lease will be cancelled anyway. Does it make me a horrible daughterto want to makemy Mum find other living arrangements? Should I be supporting her as best I can because I am her daughter? Or should I be looking out for myself and my own future, to keep my excellent rental history clean so it doesn’t affect my future credit ratings.

    If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated, or if anyone has had a similar experience.

    Thanks for reading :) Xx

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    • Charlie

      I think you should not feel bad about cutting your mum loose. Your need to put your family first, and your family is your daughter. Your mum should be old enough to look after herself.

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    • Zepgirl

      Oh man, what a crap situation.

      I don’t know how much advice I can give you, I can absolutely see both sides of this. If you really put a gun to my head I’d have to say that your first priority is your daughter, and if what’s happening with your mum is going to put you, and by extension your daughter in any sort of financial or legal hot water, then you have to act to prevent any sort of fallout.

      Good luck with whatever you decide, I really feel for you.

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    • CaramelloKoala

      Your first and only priority is your daughter.

      There’s a reason your mother is blacklisted and it’s not fair to you, your daughter or the landlord if she’s living there without supervision and is likely to damage the place and have you blacklisted too.

      I think you need to tell a white lie and tell her that the real estate have sent you a Notice to Leave as the owner is going to move in and she has x amount of time to find somewhere else.

      You aren’t responsible for her. She is.

      Good luck :-)

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    • Amy

      Hi Stacey,

      I agree with Charlie that you do need to put yourself and your daughter first. Maybe there is some sort of community counceller you can contact about getting some advice for your mum?
      Unfortunately sometimes you have to stop helping someone in order for them to learn to survive themselves.

      I also just wanted to say that I see your commenting on here regularly and you seem to be doing a great job with both yourself and your daughter. You should be so proud xx

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      • stacey87

        Thankyou for your kind words, they mean the world to me! Always nice to be told I should be proud of myself. Obviously I don’t recieve any support from the rest of my family, but in saying that, I have been taught in depth about what not to do as a parent/Mummy.

        Thanks everyone for the advice, and for sticking up for me to do the right thing.

        I am going to talk to my mum and try and keep the situation as calm as possible and if she won’t listen then I will be forced to give her a few weeks notice to find another arrangement. I will continue to stay reasonable though, and never act on personal emotion, even if she threatens me, abuses me, etc etc which I suspect might happen. I just want it to all work out for everyone.. I don’t think it will be this easy, but I will try…wish me luck Xx

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        • hellopetal

          Good luck stacey87! Sounds like your mum is the kind of handful that my sister is & it is very tough to stay calm when someone is abusing you. Sometimes I just say to myself in the back of my mind, ‘she’s not normal, this too shall pass’ when she’s putting the verbal boot in. I hope it works out for you & that your rental record is not affected.

          And for the record I agree with Amy – from the posts I’ve seen, you seem like a great mum to me. Sometimes we learn best from experiencing what not to do.

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        • aura

          I can totally understand you not wanting to cut your mother loose, unfortunately its not as easy as some people make it out to be, no one would want to make their mother homeless and anyone who doesnt care I would question. Defenately try and find out if any other accomodation is possible (housing assistance etc) and def help her with this. Then I think once that is sorted you can say that you received a notice or something. This is only my opinion of course. I also have a difficult family situation and my mother can be emotionally abusive.

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    • MJ

      This is a crappy crappy situation. I agree with the other posters but, you need to put yourself and your daughter first.
      You could ring around difference services and find out exactly what is available to your mother to help her, and start setting her up a good support network other than you (eg a good GP, friends and other family, get her known to the local services that she might need – eg mental health or drug and alcohol support teams if she needs them, social work etc).
      You need to get her other people to depend on apart from you. The more people who know about her and can check in on her, the more safety nets she has.
      And just because you won’t be living with her, doesn’t mean you can’t still make sure she’s ok. Maybe your relationship will improve when you’re not so close together as well.
      It sounds like she’s lucky to have you :-)

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    • catgirl

      Your main responsibility is to yourself and your daughter, you need to cut your mother lose.

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  36. maggie

    MM Team! I am guessing others have pointed this out, but I cant see it. When ever I come to your site on my comp it now only loads the mobile site!

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  37. Bride Body

    OMM: the treatment of women in our media. I recently saw a truly brilliant and eye opening film on this subject a month ago. I was so taken with its message I wanted to allow others a chance to see the film and so I’ve arranged a screening happening in 2.5 weeks in Sydney. I’ve written more about the film for Mamamia here:
    http://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-cares/miss-representation-the-documentary-you-need-to-see/

    But even since I’ve written that post we’ve had the Leigh Sales ‘cow’ comment, the “destroying the joint” comment by Alan Jones, the list goes on…and each of these incidents has further reinforced for me just how important the message of this film is. The film itself, called ‘Miss Representation’ is on continual replay in my mind while these issues have been playing out…. Please any thinking female or male, I do urge you to come and see it. Now more than ever.

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  38. Newbie

    Advice and reassurance needed…
    I have just returned from the child care drop off where I was told that my normally well behaved, well mannered and friendly 2 year old boy has started biting the other children.

    I had another child 6 weeks ago and his teachers believe that is the reason. To me, he is not showing any signs of aggression at home and he still gets my attention.

    Is this just a phase and if so, how can I speed up the passing of it?

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    • chillax

      I have never had a biter but we went to playgroup and there was a little girl there who would bite anyone she could get to! Her poor mum tried everything to stop it. In the end I think she simply grew tired of being in trouble and in the naughty corner and eventually stopped doing it.
      Dont worry, its very normal! :)

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    • Daisy

      Probably just a phase but if you make sure the bitee gets loads of attention and the biter is ignored, it should help.

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    • Anonymous

      My son did the same. He wasn’t agressive in nature at all & it seems he was just teething. In the end the best thing we did was just give him rusks to chew on (instead of kids) and he grew out of it. Side note – he now kisses everyone!

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    • Vic@mummyateme

      My son did exactly the same thing when I had my second baby.

      He was lovely to her and to me but started being very rough with other kids and occasionally biting : (

      Just what you need when you are sleep deprived and struggling to cope with 2 kids!

      The daycare ladies were lovely about it – they have systems for dealing with that kind of thing – and he did eventually stop.

      The best advice I got was from a baby health nurse (I took my baby in but ended up crying about my toddler). She said to be very visible about punishing him when it happened in public ie at the park. She recommended immediate time out on the picnic mat – she said it would help him learn that actions had unpleasant consequences (because he was too young to understand about hurting someone else) but also let the other Mums see that I was doing all I could to stop him so they would be less judgemental towards me. It worked.

      Try not to worry – he did grow out of it and went back to being his lovely self!

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  39. phoodietweets

    Hi Everyone! :) Happy Open Post day!

    I’ve just returned home from a couple of hours shopping in the city, in Sydney.

    And I’ve got a migraine.

    *FIRST WORLD PROBLEM ALERT*.

    I used to work in the city, i.e. I used to be there 5 days a week, week after week, for yeeeeears…. These days, with 2 small bubs, I basically never go….

    Anyway, I had an appointment today in town and I thought I’d make the most of it by getting the babysitter to stay on a little longer so I could shop.

    HOW DEPRESSING.

    Not only couldn’t I really find much that I liked, when I did find something i liked they either didn’t have my size OR I checked the price tag and the item was $6 billion.

    I am all for supporting retailers in theory, HONESTLY, I do feel sorry for the shops and the people who own them / work in them that customers are disappearing ….but gimme online any day after today’s experience.

    Endless variety, much, much, MUCH cheaper, size availability and all from the comfort of my gorgeous bed!

    It makes me a little sad, but it’s the truth.

    I shouldn’t complain TOO much as I did manage to pick up a couple of great things, but for the effort, the cost and the time it took…….

    MIGRAINE CENTRAL.

    Loving the gorgeous weather and hoping that everyone is getting at the very least a little bit of time off to enjoy it (this is in Sydney, not sure about around the country…. or internationally! But hope you’re all having a great day too!)

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    • Butterflies

      Oh how disappointing for you. I was planning on heading into the city for some retail therapy when I have a child-free day, but maybe I should head elsewhere like chatswood!

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      • Phoodietweets

        Yes! Def Chatswood! ….. Or online!!!

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  40. Cassidy

    Two very shallow things this week:

    OMM 1: Hanson concert next week, woowoo!! Really want to figure out a way to meet them, cross it off the bucket list…If anyone’s in Melbourne and wants to meet up, let me know.

    OMM 2: Considering dying my hair red. Have been blonde/dark blonder (depending on how much sun is around) for years and years. Only issue is I sometime get psoriasis (sp?) and it shows up much worse in darker hair. Has anyone had this problem and found a really good product to combat it?

    Also, agree with Simone below, stay indoors Melbournians, it’s crazy out there!!

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      Wait. Hanson are having a concert and I didn’t get tickets?

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      • cassidy

        Well, Luce, just your luck, there’s some still available for the second Sydney show! Jump on it, it’ll be awesome fun, haha!!!

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    • Anonymous

      I REALLY WANT TO GO!!!! But I’m in Brisbane, and none of my friends want to go (terrible friends, really).

      :( :( :( Even my boyfriend said he won’t come with me, because I clearly still have a massive crush on all three of them (well no, the two older ones) and he won’t support emotional cheating lol. In reality, he just hates their music. A lot.

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      • cassidy

        Aww mate that sux! My boyf is coming with me, I said I’d happily go alone but I think he wants to watch me lose my shit a bit, plus I’ve gone to everything he wants…Tell your boyf that the guys at work just listened to their new stuff on my phone and said it’s not bad!!! There’s still tickets available to the Brisbane one I think…

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    • Alina

      I’m so excited for Hanson! There new album is amazing! Also, eleven year old me would’ve lost her shit if she’d found out she gets to go to a Hanson concert when she grows up!

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  41. Cat

    OMM – period pain… For ten days prior to my monthly cycle I had dull to quite severe cramps and pains in my lady regions. My period has now been gone for five days but I’m still having these weird pains :(
    Might be time for a gyno visit which scares me!

    On the positive, am just loving Mamamia at the moment – you’re all gorgeous rays of sunshine… and Lucy, in that dress and boots combo – bam chicka wow!

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    • Rach the Muso

      If it is around your period (before and after) it might be endometriosis, which is much more common than many people think. Definitely get yourself to a gynaecologist as they can put you on medication which can halt (or sometimes reverse) it. Even the pill can work wonders on it (this has been my treatment – continuous pill taking).

      I only mention this because even on the pill I have pain for a few days after my period (and off the pill, I used to get it a week before). While the pain is probably about 5% of what I had before I went on the pill, there is no mistaking that it is still there without the bleeding!

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    • Bec

      Cat bite the bullet & go to your GP, it is probably nothing big (UTI, wind pains ; ) ), but is best to make sure, and the earlier you find out the better. Go on pick up the phone now : )

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  42. Belinda

    I am COMPLETELY over not having a job, I quit my old job to go overseas and also I couldn’t handle my ex bosses bullying attitude as my uni work and mental health ( just recovering from depression and weaned off the meds yay) were both suffering.
    Its been 7 weeks already!! Does anybody know of any marketing jobs (digital and traditional) in melbourne for someone with 3 years experience?

    I have tried Seek, Linkedin, Twitter and many other websites!

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    • Alexa

      Recruitment agencies like Julia Ross, Drake, Kelly Services, have you tried directly on their websites?

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      • Belinda

        Thank you Alexa for the idea! I have tried a few agency’s with limited success.. but it only takes one person to see the resume!

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      • Me

        Call the peeps at Firebrand!

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    • Joy

      I am not sure if this is what you are looking for but check out
      http://www.pof.com.au/careers/2/
      (or google careers at Phillips Ormonde Fitzpatrick)

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      • Belinda

        Thanks Joy! I will be applying for that one tonight, sounds pretty much what I’m looking for!

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        • Sarah

          Try Robert Walters. Beautiful team, will also help you tweak your resume if needed

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    • JS

      Belinda, try the jobs link in Mumbrella, AdNews or Bandt.com.au.

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      • Belinda

        Onto it right now!

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  43. Carisma

    I just commented on a post and lost my ability to ‘like’ :( I’m not into my MM account as I can’t ‘like’ using that either.

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    • Belinda

      The like option has disappeared for me too!!

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  44. Alexa

    OMM: Wish I was pregnant, hubby and I have been trying for 9 months, nothing, I am almost 39 and he is almost 43, I have been pregnant before (to my first husband, twice in fact, resulting in miscarriages) and both when I was in my 20′s. I guess we should go and get tested? Anyone been down this road? Was it expensive?

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    • Bec

      Hi Alexa, I am 37. When we started trying for our second child my Dr said on average it takes 12 months to conceive at our age. After 12 months of trying we were sent for tests for secondary infertility. I had an ultrasound to check my ovaries etc, an in internal ultrasound to check for scarring, and a kidney scan. I also had to do bloodtests to check my hormone levels, my husband had to do a sperm test to check numbers and motility. The tests revealed my hormones were too low to stimulate ovulation, hormone levels drop significantly from your 30′s onwards. The next step we would have taken was the drug Clomid, it acts like a hormone to stimulate the ovaries to produce a follicle. My Dr then detailed several other options we could try before eventually trying IVF, IVF seems to be one of the final options, taken only after trying several other options, most of which are not that expensive compared to IVF. Anyway the month we got the prescription for Clomid I was monitoring my cycle, my period was late, after being a week late I did a test and wouldn’t you know it the test was positive, I am very happy to say we are 12 weeks pregnant!! Actually we haven’t told anyone yet so I will enjoy the anonymity of the internet ; )
      The most important thing is to see your Dr as soon as you think there may be a problem, because every month that goes by the older you both get and the harder it may be to conceive. Good-luck with everything.

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      • chillax

        Congratulations!

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      • Alexa

        Thanks Bec, that is great advice and sincere congratulations on your pregnancy, I hope the next 28 weeks sail along blissfully.

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    • Run dont walk...

      I dont mean to sound negative but book an apt with your GP now (TODAY!) to get a referal to an IVF clinc. It may take you up to 2 months to get in to see them anyway (the good ones book up fast) so you could always cancel if it worked before then. You should do this if you have been trying for 6 months or more over the age of 35. The short answer is YES its expensive – but you do get some back from Medicare.

      Good luck!!

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    • chellebelle

      different GPs have very different views. I saw a GP when hubby and I were ready to start trying for a baby. I was 36 at the time. She said given my age we should only try for 3 months and then get some fertility testing done. Sure enough, 3 months later, husband’s sperm counts were all *really* low and IVF was basically our only option. She saved us 9 months of stress! I would suggest fertility testing sooner rather than later.

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  45. Simone

    OMM – the wind! It’s seriously blowing a gale in Melbourne today. A massive tree came down in the park across the road from our house. Take care out there Melbourne peeps.

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    • jamilarizvi

      Wow!

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    • Simone

      Whoops. Sorry about the sideways pic – not sure what happened there!

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    • Kris2040

      Jesus! They have said to batten down the hatches around Sydney too. Gonna be a fun afternoon.

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    • Cordeline

      Bloody hell! Where is that park?!

      I concur though…. Melbourne windy weather is awful today. Even the car was being shaken around while stationary!

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    • little jojo

      That’s insane! I have to go to work tonight, I’d much rather just curl up inside. Hope everyone in Melbourne stays safe! x

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  46. This boy's mum

    Hi there, I’d love to ask for some parenting advice from the MM community as my husband and I are really struggling with our 5 year old’s bedtime routine.

    We’re not on the same page when it comes to how we deal with him at night and what to do when our son is not listening. So not only are we struggling with his bedtime, but then we end up arguing about how it was handled and who did what wrong.

    We typically take him up at 7.30pm. He brushes, goes to the toilet, drinks some water and has time to read his books. Then after we go in around 8-8.30pm and say time to put the books away, it’s time for bed. We have explained countless times that at this point he is NOT to come out of bed, talk to his brother or constantly call out for us.

    When he doesn’t listen, I give him 2 warnings and then it’s followed up by some kind of threat, like ”I will take your teddy away if you don’t stop coming downstairs/calling out etc”. If he doesn’t listen and continues to do that, then I take the teddy away and he will cry for more than an hour, begging for his teddy back. Even though he was given plenty of time and chance to stay in bed in the first place. Sometimes he will come out 5 or 6 times.

    My husband thinks its cruel to leave him to cry and thinks we should give him what he wants. Whereas, I think he needs to deal with the consequences of not listening and staying up past his bedtime.

    Please please can anyone provide some advice and tell me if what I’m doing seems unreasonable.

    I’ve tried a points system where if he stays in bed he gets a small treat, and then the more points he gets the bigger the treat but he loses interest and just keeps coming out/calling out/scaring his brother etc…

    Thanks in advance.xx

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    • vanessayoung

      I have heard this idea from a few Mums at my granddaughter’s school. It seems to work and is pretty non confrontational. Once it is time for your little boy to stay in bed and he gets up again, take him back and put him in bed but do not talk to him. Be gentle, but firm, but do not respond with facial expressions or words. My granddaughter is in a class of special needs kids and it has worked on kids in that class and on typical kids as well. It takes persistence and will not work overnight but your son is enjoying the attention (even the tellings off and getting his teddy taken away) so if he does not get a response he may realise that it not worth getting out of bed 5 or 6 times a night.

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    • Bunny

      I’m not a mother so take my advice with a grain of salt – it’s what I’ve seen on Supernanny.

      When Supernanny goes into a house where there’s a bedtime issue (kids getting up and coming out to see mum or dad, what’s going on downstairs etc), she tells the parents to take the child back to bed with minimal fuss and conversation – otherwise you’re engaging the child and giving them what they want.

      Put them back into bed, turn the light off, close the door (if you do close the door at night) and walk away

      The next time the child gets up, take them back to bed, this time with no conversation/acknowledgement, tuck them back in, turn the light off and walk away.

      Basically, repeat the process until it stops – it will test your patience but hopefully the child will eventually realise he or she is not getting the attention that they wanted out of acting up, and will stop and go to sleep.

      Good luck – like I said, I’m not a parent and I’m only going off what I’ve seen on episodes of Supernanny. Hopefully other posters can give you some ideas based on their own experience.

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      • Dee

        Snap! :-)
        It does work but it doesn’t happen fast and they can still fall out of this routine at times too.

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      • chillax

        I did this. I also had to resort to sitting on a chair in the doorway of the bedroom with my back to my childs bed. It took 2 weeks and was extremely frustrating but it was very worthwhile and it did work.
        Also, I’m thinking 8-8.30 is too late for a 5 year old. My 10 year old has only just moved to 8.30 lights out. Can you try starting the routine earlier?

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    • Kaz

      My almost 5 year old can be painful at bedtime too! We find the earlier he goes to bed the better he gets to sleep. So we start the whole routine before 7 and most nights he’s tucked in by 7.30 (then if he chooses to reappear a couple of times it’s still not too late.) Stories on CD are good too, our son often drifts off listening to music/stories at night. Good luck

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      • Kris2040

        That’s what I was wondering – maybe he’s overtired?
        I go with Giggle and Hoot with KDot – Watch In the Night Garden and then Hoot goes off the nightwatch, and I take her upstairs. Good routine!

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    • Dee

      Not an expert but this has worked for us.
      It’s something the supernanny suggests but 45 mins before bed time all TVs etc are off and only quiet things like books are allowed. The routine you run seems fine to me.
      We then take child to bed, kisses and cuddles and then walk out the door. If they get up they are told quietly it’s bed time and we put them back in the bed. Every time after that if they get up they are quietly taken back to bed and you do not engage them in any kind of conversation or delaying tactic.
      We’ve tried to ensure we’ve met every possible delay tactic before they have been in bed. They’ve gone to the toilet and have a drink of water by their bed if age appropriate.
      This routine may take a while the first night and a while the second night but by the third (if you stay the course and are persistent) it usually means they are in bed and staying there.
      I would not take their teddy away because this is a sleep assistant and usually helps them to sleep.
      They can still come out of this routine occasionally and you have to retrain again but it does work. Persistence, quiet time and not engaging in arguments and discussions about going back to bed work.
      Good luck!! It’s hard I know but it will get better!

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      • Done

        Just wanted to add, to make sure he is getting up at an appropriate time. I know from my son that the later he gets up the later he wants to go to bed. It might be that your son has got into the habit of sleeping later and really isn’t tired at 7.30pm. A few early starts may help as well as the routines suggested.

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    • Anonymous

      I don’t think taking the teddy away is a good idea. It seems like punishment for the sake of punishment rather than something that will teach him about the consequences of not sleeping.

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    • Sal

      In relation to you and your husband not being on the same page, is it possible you could got to a parenting/sleep class together. We had the worst sleep problems with our son, I was reading all the books and parenting blogs and trying to be really disciplined, whereas my husband was working on instinct, so in effect he was sabotaging everything I was trying to do. Out of frustration I booked us into a sleep class. It was awesome as they use all of the latest, scientifically proven methods to teach kids to sleep. The best part was my husband was there learning the exact same things as I was learning, and he was able to ask questions and get factual answers, rather than arguing with me about what I had read in a book. Now we work as a team and use the same techniques, it really does work so much better as our son is not getting mixed messages. Good-luck, it really is one of the most frustrating parts of parenting.

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    • Cordeline

      What about letting him have some nice music to listen to in bed?

      We never did this with our kids as babies but have been doing it recently (to help with fear of monsters) and it has worked an absolute treat.

      Good luck with finding the thing that works for you guys.

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    • Mother Brown

      You’ve gotten lots of great advice, hope you can create some positive change for your family from it. When I read your story, two things stood out and hit me straight away.

      The first thing is, as others have suggested, you might be starting your bedtime routing too late. Little people are learning and experiencing so much stimuli during that day that they really are worn out and ready for sleep much, much earlier than 8.30. For us, 8.30 bed time was a rare, rare, rare, event and even then only on holidays and if we had guests or were visiting some place else. Kids that age really do need about 10-11 hours sleep a night.

      The second thing is that whatever method you employ, both you and your husband need to be on the same page and supporting each other – not arguing about it. Kids are smart – too smart sometimes :-) . And they will pick up on this division and play it (and you) for all they’re worth. Seriously!

      Our ‘nightly’ routing started at about 4:30-5:00 with baths. Then dinner at 5:30. Nothing other than water to drink from dinner onwards – and as little of it as possible. 6:00 quite time – they could read or watch one of their videos – like, In The Night Garden or their perennial favourite, Play School. No toy playing, no running around – this is QUIET TIME in order for them wind down, relax and get ready for sleep. We always started the immediate pre-bed routine (toilet, teeth, last drink – and only a very small one) much earlier so that they were in bed before 7pm. That allows some time for a story in bed or a cuddle with mummy or daddy while they settle. Do it right and they’ll be sound asleep by 7pm and the night – and the peace and quiet is yours to enjoy (doing all those mummy things like ironing, cleaning, preparing lunches for tomorrow, etc, etc) LOL)

      I found that using the nanny technique worked well – don’t talk to them or engage with time in any way, simply take them back to bed and leave the room. NO SPEAKING TO OR ENGAGING WITH THEM AT ALL. Even if they try to ask you something. It’s not easy and it won’t magically happen in a day or two. Unfortunately, you just have stick to it to bed down the routine.

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    • kitten

      I changed my 5 year olds bed time to much earlier and it solved a lot of problems we also now have dinner much earlier as well. dinner is now t 5 followed by bath and then stories and bed at 6:30 she can read in her room till 7:30 thensleep. we found this removed a lot of the problem that we were having.

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      • This boy's mum

        Thank you so much for all of the very helpful replies. After reading through all your advice, I spoke to my husband about us taking him up to bed earlier, and then calmly walking him back to his bed when he comes out.

        I have emphasized the part about ‘no interaction’ when he comes out and my husband agreed that this seems like a good approach.

        However, tonight every time my son came downstairs, my husband would immediately start talking to him and getting cross, so I’m not sure it is something we are ever going to be on the same page about. I have told him I would rather deal with bedtimes until they are used to the new routine and then he can continue with it.

        I am hoping things will improve soon. Thanks again everyone, I was looking forward to open post this week just so I could ask you all for help!
        xx

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        • Dee of Adelaide

          I agree with the others on the bedtime, the walking him back etc etc

          On the husband on the same page thing, can one of you take charge and the other one stay out of it for a period of time.

          We haven’t done that with bedtime but we have with other things (dinner table behaviour being a big one here) where we differ (not wildly but enough) and we don’t like her to see that inconsistency so i’ve said “have a go at it your way for 2 weeks and if you get results, I’ll stick with it”. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t but its always consistent and she never gets the sense she can divide us.

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  47. Nicky

    I am happy about the new rules and also happy to think that the MM staff will also be improving their responses and perhaps even the types and titles of posts to better reflect the direction you want the site to go in.
    I have concerns over moderating before comments go up and here is an example of why.
    On the original post about the new rules a commentator called Jackson made an awesome comment, it was in no way offensive or snarky and did not breach any of the new rules. It was up on the site for about 10 minutes and attracted a number of positive responses to it, then suddenly it was gone.

    A few people asked the mods what happened to it and after about 30 minutes it went back up. Someone asked Bec why it was taken down in the first place and she replied that an over zealous moderator deleted it.
    Now if comments are pre moderated and each mod has a different view of what is appropriate, how many comments that are fine are going to be edited out because one person reads it a different way to another?
    At least when a comment first goes up, others can see it and if it is offensive anyone who reads it can alert the MM team, and by the same token if a comment suddenly disappears and someone thinks that it is unfair to delete it, at least some people have seen the comment and can call for it to be reinstated.
    I am also concerned that one person has the power to delete a comment, I thought that the community mods did not have the power to delete, just decide if the comment should be bought to the attention of one if the 4 full time staff.
    Clearly that is a lot of power for a volunteer and intern to have, who is policing the police?
    What happens if someone wants to make a comment about a moderator, is that comment ever going to see the light of day?

    I also think that if comments do not appear straight away it will stifle discussion. Can you have a rule that if you make a certain amount of borderline comments then all you comments have to be pre approved. But only do that for multiple offenses not off the bat for everyone.

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    • Bec

      How about a type of community moderation, using the thumbs up/thumbs down method, like they do on sites like Regretsy, if the community finds the comment dis-tasteful they can give it a thumbs down until it disappears. I think we have a wonderful community of intelligent, thoughtful members so this style of moderation would work well, as opposed to one moderator making all the decisions. Democracy at work.

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      • Kris2040

        I’ve seen that system on a number of sites, I really like the thumbs up/down idea – it’s fun cancelling out likes on idiot posts! ;)

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      • catgirl

        if the community finds the comment dis-tasteful they can give it a thumbs down until it disappears

        A huge problem with that idea is that people who don’t agree with the view expressed will give it the thumbs down regardles of the tone in which it is written.

        Mob rule particularly on a forum when you are already ‘sideswiped’ if you have an opinion that goes against the popular opinon, would be a very bad idea in my opinion

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        • beansbeansthemagicalfruit

          That’s my worry as well as far as the thumbs down option goes. Take Kris for example… awhile back there were a few people or maybe even one under multiple names who were targeting her with nasty comments. If every time she commented during that time they ‘disliked’ her post, it would’ve helped to assist them in attempting to bully her and run her off of the site. Granted she seems to be a tough ass woman who can more than handle her own but so many others have already said lately how one or two personal attacks really affected them deeply. Throw in the thumbs down option and I think that would just add to their pain. It’d be hard to have a thick skin if I shared something personal on here and I came back to see a number of people disliked it as I wouldn’t know if they were trolls or people genuinely disagreeing. I’d probably be very wary about sharing much if anything again. Yeah we shouldn’t all be wrapped in cotton wool but we’re still human and I don’t see how giving a keyboard warrior even more tools to try to hurt others will really help the situation.

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          • Bec

            That is a good point, I am a bit of a pollyanna and often only think of the good in people. I do think the thumbs up/thumbs down might still work on MM because the majority of the community are reasonable people, the trolls are a minority. So for every unwarranted thumbs down there may be 5 thumbs ups, negating the downs. Also you can only ‘thumbs’ once from your IP address so it is not like a troll can continually thumbs down a single post. I really do like this method of community moderation as I have seen it work so well on other forums, it takes away the frustration of a slow moderator and gives a little control back to the community.

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            • beansbeansthemagicalfruit

              Before the new commenting policy was posted I never would’ve considered the downside to the dislike option. I’ve seen it on the major news sites and never gave it a second thought. But the number of people who returned to Mamamia after that article went up and shared stories of feeling personally attacked or bullied to the point where they quit the site for good really stunned me. Some of those people were jumped on for their first comment here so I’m a bit surprised they’re even willing to give it all a second chance. I think the difference is that the news sites don’t really post articles that encourage much sharing of intimate stories. It’s one thing to dislike a comment about a politician or the Shire on news.com.au but if I’m talking about my parenting style or lifestyle choices for example, then those dislikes can begin to feel much more personal. I personally would rather have someone discuss with me why they disagree with what I’ve said… at least something constructive may come out of that and I may learn something, especially with the new commenting guidelines. It’s just way too easy to change IPs these days and I guess after the incident with Charlotte and what I’ve seen happen on here has left me really leery about opening people up to potential unnecessary hurt and driving them away from Mamamia.

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      • TinyT

        That would be ideal IMO.

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    • Cordeline

      I agree with your last point. Discussion can move so quickly on this site and I feel that if comments do not appear immediately, it will really slow the discussion down.

      I’m not a fan of a thumbs down button though… but I like your idea of the cut-off mark for inappropriate comments. A comment from a certain URL could be red-flagged or something maybe?

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  48. Marg

    Mia are you able to explain what the ACP deal means for Aust magazines?
    thanks

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  49. Jane*

    My life right now:

    Post European holiday depression. Five year plan pondering. I’m nearing a bit of a turning point – what I do/where I go next year when I finish a Masters degree in a new to me career will be a bit of a defining period in my life, I’m thinking.

    I’m also for moderation after posting – the real time aspect is one of my favourite things about Mamamia. Hopefully now you have more hands on deck to moderate you’ll be able to be keeping an eye on things pretty consistently as well.

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  50. Katyberry

    OMM? What’s with all the Jackie O pictures in the slideshow? Maybe one is interesting, the rest, not at all a part of what’s been going on at Mamamia.

    I am actually genuinely interested in why there are so many of the wedding renewal photos. It is a bit like last week with all the pictures of the longest catwalk. Are they sponsored inclusions?

    I look forward to seeing the new commenting policy in practice. If it can keep the tone civil, without smothering debate, I think that is a really great thing.

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    • jamilarizvi

      Hi KatyBerry

      No the Jackie O wedding pictures aren’t sponsored. Our interns went along and had a fabulous time and the pictures were – well, too good not to publish. I thought it look hilarious and was a tad jealous I didn’t get to go!

      Glad that you’re keen on the new commenting policy.

      Jamila xx

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    • Anonymous

      Katyberry,
      The wedding was SO much fun!

      Jackie’s dress was outlandish and amazing, complete with lights as well!

      The whole thing was completely over-the-top and Ash and I didn’t stop laughing.

      I think they probably have the video up on their website if you want to check it out.

      But it was amzing :D

      -Megan, MM Moderater/Intern

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      • Katyberry

        Oh, I’m so glad! (I think that I must be some kind of conspiracy nut!).
        Sounds like pretty good fun at the wedding renewal

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