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by MIA FREEDMAN

I fear we’re turning into a nation of wussbags. Softies. Princesses. People in need of a big bowl of cement for breakfast. Everywhere you look, there’s wuss.

Like when I heard a recent news report about adolescent obesity where a health professional was explaining why so many young girls don’t like to exercise. “They don’t like to get hot, sweaty or out of breath” he said. Unfortunately, these things are the point of exercise. But apparently, girls become panicky because even mild physical discomfort is such an unfamiliar sensation.

More signs of wussbaggery closer to home: last week I was bundling my kids into the car when we had a sudden standoff. “Wait Mum,” said the 6 year old. “What snacks have you brought?” We were going to the supermarket.  A 10 minute drive, tops. “And drinks! We need drinks!” my three year old chimed in. Briefly, I felt like a failure. Inadequately prepared for an outing, yet again. Then I regained my senses. “You don’t need to eat or drink anything between here and the shops,” I replied. “Harden up.”

I’ve found myself saying this more and more lately, whenever my kids display the inability to cope with any form of delay, discomfort or inconvenience. Which is, like, always. For a long time I’d instinctively panic whenever my children said “I’m hungry.” Until I realised they’re always hungry yet not starving enough to consider a carrot. So they’re not actually hungry, they’re just hoping that one happy day I might turn to them and say, “Well, let’s fix that with a Nutella pancake then!”

What is this modern obsession with being fed and hydrated at all times? Why does every mother schlep around half a supermarket of snacks and drinks in her bag and her car? Is hunger so bad between meals? Wait, between snacks and meals? Will any Western kid survive more than an hour without shoving a muesli bar in their pie hole? At one school, the stretch between breakfast and recess has been deemed too long so a new eating opportunity has been introduced at 9:30am. It’s called, ‘pre-recess’. Because heaven forbid any child experiences a hunger pain.

And it’s not just kids.

I heard a theatre director once say plastic water bottles are the bane of his life as audience members now drink noisily throughout every performance.  “Suddenly nobody can sit through a 90 minute play without being constantly bloody hydrated,” he complained.

He’s right, you know. Everywhere you go, people are clutching water bottles. Pre-nineties when some genius convinced us all to buy something freely available FROM A TAP, was everyone keeling over from dehydration? Or did we just drink when we could and cope the rest of the time? Imagine that.

One friend reports: “Having worked at Rebel Sport I know for a fact that nobody can exercise anymore without a full set of Skins compression gear and a fancy Puma water bottle that no-one else can open.” Another friend adds, “And you can’t go to the gym without a protein shake.”

It comes down to being lucky and pampered. Once the basics are covered – food, water, shelter, physical safety – you can start being wussy about luxury details. I did this just last week when our automatic boiling water tap broke down. Yes, we have one. Or, we did until it selfishly died. “This is unacceptable,” I stropped while boiling water for my tea in a saucepan. “What am I, CAMPING NOW?”

A workmate had a similar first world complaint: “I’ve just moved into a new house and it doesn’t have heated floors in the bathroom like my last place did. I miss that floor, dammit.”

Another friend observed this wuss behaviour while skiing last weekend: “I was watching all the little kids slowwwwwly skiing down their special kiddie slope and then getting on the magic carpet and crying. When I was young my parents just pushed me down the mountain and hoped I stayed upright.”

Ah, tough love. The opposite of wuss.

“My grandad put together my first bike without the training wheels,” nodded a workmate. “He was like, ‘you’ll work it out’ and pushed me down our steep driveway.” 30 years later she has no visible scars.

Nothing, however, tops our complete intolerance for boredom. We are pathetic in the face of it.

Many new cars have TV’s in the back of the headrests so kids can be entertained at all times. Or at least while they wait for the battery on the iPhone and iPad to recharge because OH NO WHAT WILL THEY DO FOR THOSE 4 LONG MINUTES WITHOUT ENTERTAINMENT?

“We were talking about doing a family road trip in Europe next year,” one friend told me. “But my husband is worried it’s too cruel to the kids because they’ll be bored in the car. How insane is that? Bored. On a European holiday.”

Adults are good at fighting boredom with technology but we’re pathetic when it fails us. When the internet was going a bit slow in our office the other day, the indignant outrage was palpable. “I cannot work under these conditions,” someone ranted like the wuss they clearly are. That person may have been me. Harden up.

If you could relate to any of this, you’ll love this video. Comedian Louis C.K. on why everything is amazing and yet nobody’s happy:

Does someone in your life need to harden up? What are YOU wussy about?

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  1. zepgirl

    I once watched a guy in a five star restaurant insist that the waitress cut up the lettuce in his caeser salad because the chef had had the temerity to have it served whole and the guy had only ever had salad where the lettuce had been either shredded or cut prior to it being served. My boyfriend at the time and I laughed so hard at the idiot that eventually we had to cut dessert short and leave a little early because we were worried about getting kicked out. My boyfriend did have the temerity to say ‘Harden up, princess,’ to the guy as we left.

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  2. Anonymous

    Our road trip entertainment between Sydney & Melbourne in the 90′s consisted of sing-alongs (to the cassette tapes of dads choosing), quizzing mum & dad on the birds and the bees, and eating salty chips to ward off car-sickness.

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    • shanny

      and eons just STARING OUT THE WINDOW!

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      • Cordeline

        And trying to get people in other cars to wave or make a funny face back at you.

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        • shanny

          oh yeah, i forgot about harassing the other motorists and creating and nuturing rivalries with other kids in cars, haha! (of course when not singing enthusiastically along with andrew lloyd webber, supertramp, toto etc) :D

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          • hellopetal

            Holding up Twisties to kids in other cars enticingly before popping them into your mouth!

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  3. elle907

    Love this article, love the video and LOVE the term ‘wussbaggery’.

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  4. anon

    Where I live, the council have just built a fantastic new playground with all sorts of new and exciting equipment like a flying fox, mini skate ramps, merry go round and other great things. It has been chock full of joyous kids from ages 1 to about 10 for the 3 weeks that it’s been open. Yesterday on the front page of our local paper was a picture of Michael Organ (yes that Michael Organ) having a sook about it not being suitable for his 1 year old and 3 year old because there are big sandstone boulders. He says “the Council should dig it all up and start again”. My first thought was “what an ego” and my second thought was “idiot with a first world whinge”. We have definitely become a nation of wussbags!

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    • Kathy W

      http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/news/local/news/general/playground-hazards-need-to-be-dug-up/2623904.aspx

      I read that and was thinking WHAT?? I remember playgrounds in the 1960s and 1970s that had metal slippery dips that were about 3 metres off the ground, no safety guards on the sides and gave you third degree burns in the summer. And he’s complaining about this beautiful playground. Man needs his cement asap.

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      • Faybian

        I read the article and thought his comment about why no one consulted the toddlers before they built the park was hilarious.

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      • Me Myself I

        And didn’t we just love those playgrounds!! They were the best and apart from the odd kid breaking their arm falling off the monkey bars, I don’t recall anyone getting hurt.

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      • Kris2040

        I read that and thought “Cool, I’m taking KDot there this week!”. We almost walked up to there yesterday until she had a total screaming meltdown.

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      • LellaK

        And the old, treated pine forts that would give you splinters if you werent careful. And the rubber swings that pinched your bum if you didnt sit in them properly. Where kids aged 1-12 would bowl each other over, wipe the dirt off and start again….

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    • Mrs M

      We read that too and got a huge laugh- a separate play area for toddlers?! Paaa-leeeese! God forbid they may fall off a boulder and not bounce of the artificial softfall! My kids can’t wait to try it out, but I’m hoping that neither of them take out an under 3 year old when they are on the tyre swing lol

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  5. Dee of Adelaide

    The carrying snacks thing everywhere drives me mental. With Little Lad around this last six months of maternity leave we never go out for more than two hours. So she’ll have breakfast, we’ll get to a park at 9am and the other mum will whip out all sorts of snacks. I look like an unprepared/bad mother, Red Rocket whines and the other mother offers her stuff. I tell her she doesn’t need it but end up caving. It’s my view that 7.30 – 10am is not that long to wait between food! Not to mention most of these snacks carried around seem to end up wasted, crunching up the bottom of a car.

    Just wait. You will not starve.

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    • Suze

      agree 100% with you!

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    • Delly

      I reckon the snack thing is a way to get some attention from parents for a couple of seconds, because usually they just say “Go watch your movie on the ipad!”

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  6. silentlyscreaming

    I couldn’t help but post the great example that just popped into my head:
    If we have the TV on and tell the 4 yr old to go to the toilet (before he wets himself and everything else in a 2 metre radius), he cries and asks if we can pause the 5 minute show he’s watching. So he can go and wee. Seriously.

    And no, I don’t do it. I believe the standard response is ‘suck it up’.

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    • hellopetal

      I’m the exact opposite. My daughter (almost 4) tells me when she needs to go the toilet & if we are watching something that I can pause, then I’ll pause it for her. I’d do the same for an adult, I figure why treat her as less than anyone else?

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      • silentlyscreaming

        That’s a fair point.
        We used to pause his shows for him to go to the bathroom, but he started to get quite silly about it (he’s hit an interesting stage recently), and would kick and scream until we gave in to him. I think it was at that point that we stopped. Maybe I’d be more inclined to do it for him if he was his old co-operative self, but it felt like we were always giving in to his tantrums, while he was not listening to anything we said. Strange behaviour for a 4 year old, I know! ;)

        One day soon my sweet, helpful, co-operative boy will return to me… (And if I’m wrong, please don’t burst my bubble)

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  7. Just me

    I’m considered a cruel mum because my kids don’t have any of the toys that their mates do. No portable dvd players, ipods, ipads, DS or anything along those lines. I am always asked how I entertain them in the car, while shopping or going out. My response is they learn to be patient & well behaved. My kids are 1, 3 & 5 & I can take them on flights, to resturants or anywhere I go & know they will mostly behave (they are kids still).
    At home they are mostly outside playing & they don’t need me to entertain them.

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    • Lala

      I’ve recently taken my young kids (1.5 years and 5 years) on 5-6 hours drives by myself without any electronic gadgets – they have books, a couple of toys, and a few snacks..and I had a couple of Play School car trip CDs in the car to listen to if they got bored. They were fine. We had a couple of good rest stops at parks and they were refreshed.

      If the trips were much longer, I think an ipad might be something I would consider, but I’m not thinking about that yet..

      And, no, you’re not a ‘cruel’ mother. I just haven’t found it necessary yet, and it costs money too.

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  8. Kate

    Thank you for publishing this article today – just what I needed to realise that waiting at a bus stop for 10 minutes isn’t as horrifying as I thought.

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  9. ellyklein

    Mia, I know you like this one… Me too!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EY7lYRneHc

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  10. Mum of 3

    I have offered my kids a cup of concrete several times these school holidays! We have made changes over the years to try to harden the kids up.

    1. We have DVD player for the car which is only brought out for the boring 2 hour drive to my in laws which is highway through paddocks whole way.

    2. We have instigated technology free day once a month which applies to everyone including mum and dad (once they return from work or school). Much to my children’s surprise, they did not die of boredom on these days.

    3. On a recent camping trip, we went screen free for the whole time from door to door. They also survived but it was hilarious when we set up camp and they sat there looking at us because they did not know what to do. Once we chased them off to the river, we barely saw them for 2 days. They had a ball.

    I think the onus is on us to show then how to be resilient. Of course they say I am bored and there are times that the iPad is my best friend and babysitter but we try to balance that with entertaining themselves.

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  11. vanessayoung

    I understand where you are coming from, Mia. However, I think a lot of today’s wussiness comes about from my generation having suffered from what amounts to institutional cruelty in schools, hospitals and at the hands of various government departments. When I was young, children were not humans and had no rights. Please do not forget that you are only one generation removed from when children could be labelled “uncontrollable” and taken into care, this happened to girls for no more reason than that they were having sex. You are also only one generation removed from those of us who were caned at school (my husband was caned on a daily basis), were labelled dumb when they were probably dyslexic or had Aspergers or another autism spectrum disorder. I think it was our generation (I am in my fifties) who were determined to try to make things better for children.
    Having said all that, I do agree that it has gone too much the other way. And there are some children who are hopelessly over indulged and who must suffer severe shock the first time something does not go their way.

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  12. Anonymous

    Let’s turn it to us as parents – we are the one who buy the iPads, game boys ect cause it’s less hassle for us than playing eye spy or other interactive car trip games and why do we take snacks and drinks where ever we go?? Because it’s easy to shut the kids up with some food rather than diverting or interacting with them. I know this because I’m a mum that fills the nappy bag with food before a shopping trip :-)

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    • stella

      I know you are definitely not the only parent doing this, but seriously- what are the long term effects of this??

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  13. Rihannon

    When I was at uni and tafe, I worked a variety of shit-kicker jobs to get by and pay my rent. I worked jobs that had Mum worried about my safety (pizza delivery is dangerous – seriously). But that’s all that was going, so that’s what I did. The amount of times I have spoken to an unemployed friend who turns their nose up at jobs in the food service industry is extraordinary. “I just COULDN’T!” They squeal. “I can’t think of anything WORSE!!!”
    I can. Unemployment. And being broke.

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  14. katehunter

    My kids were astounded to learn watermelons once had SEEDS and that no one I know ever choked to DEATH on one.

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    • ellyklein

      Kate, you will like this…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_8WEt8Mew

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    • Anonymous

      All watermelons have seeds, it’s how the watermelon plant reproduces. The seedless watermelons that you see in shops have been treated with a chemical that stops the seeds developing in the melon

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      • Anonymous

        I dont think thats actually correct, you can grow them in the home garden, and thay aren’t chemically treated.

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      • Helene

        Watermelons have somehow been cross bred with cucumbers to make them appear seedless They still have seeds but they are soft like cucumber seeds

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    • LLou

      I laughed out loud at this comment… I’ve had the exact same discussion with my kids & you should have seen their looks of disbelief!

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  15. Yeah!

    We had a family dog who had it so good she would practically tear down the house whenever we went out.

    We’d come home and outdoor furniture had been ravaged, pot plants had been turned over and the neighbours would report she’d been barking and whining and driving everyone within earshot crazy.

    We got in a special trainer and we had to do the following things:

    1. Keep her outside for long periods of time and not pat or even acknowledge her.
    2. Eat our dinner first. She got fed after we were done.
    3. She couldn’t dive into her dinner bowl when it was put down in front of her. She had to sit and wait until we said ‘okay’. It was only for a few seconds, but it was to teach her who was boss.

    At first, it felt really cruel. But we got used to it. And it worked! She stopped tearing the house down when we left. She started showing respect for her masters. She became a great dog.

    Conclusion: If you can teach an old dog new tricks, surely a little tough love would work on humans, too. :-)

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    • Daisy

      Did she go for at least two walks a day? Did she get sufficient exercise?

      Dogs need to get out of the back yard every day and exercise or else they go nuts and tear up the house and worse. It’s not just about a dog respecting humans it’s about humans respecting that they are dogs and what dogs really require.

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      • Diana The Huntress

        Exactly. So often “behavioural problems” are cited when in fact it’s the unwillingness, lack of understanding or inability to cater to the needs of the dog.

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        • Anony

          If that had been the case then the behavioural training wouldn’t have worked. Why do you feel the need to jump to (probably incorrect) conclusions?

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        • LellaK

          The exercise point aside – dogs need to be shown who is in charge, they are pack animals and you are their ‘leader’. The points above about the specialised training are classic in changing basic behavioural issues, it’s their instinct to follow their pack leader and if they arent authoritive it confuses the dog

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      • Yeah!

        As I said, the dog was extremely pampered… so OF COURSE she went for walks every day!

        We still walked her. But we were also instructed to do those three things.

        Frankly, I’m a little hurt and offended that anyone would conclude from my story that my family and I weren’t looking after our beloved dog with the utmost care. Thank you, Anony, for jumping to my defense.

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        • Daisy

          I did ask you whether it was walked twice a day. I think that the regiment your trainer put in place was far too harsh. I am aware that many people agree with that type of training but many do not. I’m in the latter group.

          I think that dogs have their own specific needs and we humans need to understand them, not implement rigorous regulations. Some of what you outlined was fine of course. I’ve owned dogs all my life and have rescued and rehabilitated many – incredibly rewarding.

          My approach is to understand their behaviour and their requirements. I think that too many humans make the mistake of not doing this. I don’t do any of the things that your trainer implemented but i am strict and pretty much every day someone comments on how happy and how well behaved my dogs are. They’re fantastic but as rescues were not always – that’s for sure. It took a lot of work and undertanding. And I did not undertake your trainers recommendations. Dogs are dogs, we should to an extent let them be dogs.

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        • Guest

          it’s not about the dog being “pampered’. They need a lot of exercise every day. Not little strolls, but exercise and preferably play with other dogs. Dogs that don’t get this often have behavioural problems, destroying the house or garden etc.

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          • Yeah!

            Bloody hell! I’m starting to wonder why I bothered commenting.

            Yes, she went for walks. No, they weren’t pissy little strolls. Yes, she interacted with other dogs. No, we’re not selfish pet-lovers who think it’s all about us and not about the dog. Yes, the training worked. No, we don’t think it’s the only way to keep a dog in line. That’s what we were told to do by a specialist and it worked.

            It should have been clear that when I said ‘pampered’, I didn’t mean we did her hair and nails. Our dog was extremely well looked after – and treated like a dog (in a good way). She’d dead now. We miss her sometimes.

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        • Diana The Huntress

          Apologies for the assumption. See enough neglect/abuse stories and you become cynical. Hazard of working in animal rights.

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          • Yeah!

            Thanks. Apology accepted.

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  16. Anonymous

    As I was reading this article this morning, hubby told our children we would be going out shopping to a shopping centre about 15 minutes drive away. They started whinging about how far that was and how they didn’t want to sit in the car for that long. Naturally we told them to quit the whining and get in the car, but it certainly makes me wonder if life is just too good for kids these days.

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  17. Peta

    We drove an hour yesterday to take our kids to a farm to go pony riding.

    My daughter (5) let out a big sigh and said “are we nearly there??”

    We were still in the driveway.

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  18. Anonymous

    what i would like to know is why all these commenters are blaming the kids for watching DVDs/playing on iPads and saying ‘ohhhh silly kids, in MY day…’ when the parents are the ones in charge…the kids didn’t buy it themselves, surely the parents are to blame! make your kids play eye spy, my parents did and I don’t hate them

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    • guest

      It`s too much for the parents to handle you know, DVD`s are great babysitters

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    • Melanie

      Totally agree

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  19. Anonymous

    I’m surprised how many people have iPads or DVD’s in the car. For a long trip, I can understand. However for a trip from your home to the shops? You do NOT need to watch a movie/television show. When we were kids and went on long car trips, we played eye spy and car bingo. We never even thought about watching am movie because we simply couldn’t!

    As for the food, I’m surprised how much food people carry around with them. Again, for long trips or even whole day trips to the zoo or Manly ect, I understand. But to the shops?

    This seems to ring very true to a general sentiment of society. “I want it and I want it now” We need to remain connected with smartphones, iPads and WiFi. We can get McDonalds and shop at K-Mart 24/7. This almost seems like an extension of that. Needing something ASAP.

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    • Mizjc

      I was shocked to see a child in a stroller at the local shopping centre with an iPad on her lap watch a movie while her mother shopped. Argh!

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      • Anonymous

        It’s so the parents don’t need to entertain their kids.

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      • Ana

        I have to confess I give my daughter the iPhone to play with (on the camera setting – hours of fun, or playing tunes for her). For me it is part of the “Where the F*** is my village” issue. I don’t get a lot of support outside of my husband and sometimes we both need a break… at the same time. So we take that break sometimes by occupying our daughter with an engrossing electronic toy.

        I think that for people who have better support there are more people to share the load of children who constantly need attention.

        By the same token I have observed more than one ‘working parent’ who can’t cope with the small amount of time they have with their children. it’s as if they get too much of a break and can’t switch tracks to care for their children. I know the feeling. After working full time I suddenly had a newborn. I worked in a high stress industry with very regular client contact. I could hang up on abusive clients and lunch breaks were sacred. With children you don’t get either of those luxuries and I think that a lot of parents are unprepared for that shock to the system.

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      • Sarah

        I was at Taronga ZOO recently and me a friend nearly fell over when we saw a kid being pushed around in a stroller playing with an ipad!!

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  20. elle

    Haahahahaha so true. I saw a black 4 wheel drive (its always the black 4wheel drives!) with a TV in the back of the seat last night presumably just driving to dinner or something. Then you see kids at cafes playing with ipads while their parents eat and talk etc. Sometimes if the child is too little to hold the ipad (like a baby) the parents sit it on the table on a little stand so they can still watch it hahaha. Pretty sure we never went out to dinner and if we did it was to Sizzlers or the RSL or something where we could run around outside or in the playground like kids not have to be silent in a fancy restaurant watching iview on a screen.
    I love Louis C.K and he is SO right. We completely forget the miracle of all this brilliant technology that exists and all the luxury and excess we have. So very true how he mentions the guy getting mad over the world owing him something he didn’t even know existed 10 secs ago. I wish I wasn’t like this but I completely am and am seriously addicted to the internet and my smartphone.

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  21. Tough love

    As I speak my 7 and 9 y.o. Are in there rooms for quiet time reading books or drawing. They do not complain and quickly find something to do. You know why? Because it has been like that since they were babies. They do not drink anything but water or milk at home, don’t ask for food at the shops and are grateful when they get something special. I mostly make them play eye spy in the car or I test them on spelling or maths – only have entertainment if it is a very long drive. I think parents set up expectations and limits when they are young and if stuck to then everyone can be happy. They are happy, outgoing kids and understand that sometimes life is not fair and not everyone has everything all the time.

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    • Cat

      Yay for you, seriously well:-) your kids will go far in life, and will be truly happier.

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    • Anonymous

      Yay, I’m currently pregnant with my first and this is the kind of mother I hope to be, even if I will be out of step with most others.

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    • my2cents

      Bang on. I know for me, problems arise when other families are involved, so if we go somewhere and my nephew is there with his dvd player and ipad and every other super expensive “toy” you can think of, my kids think this might me normal, and the other adults (who are all related to me of course) look at me like I am somehow depriving my kids because I expect them to use their imagination to play.

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      • Michelle

        You have made me reply to you. You are great, I love you. I hate the way family pressures you because you are not like them. I know this will happen to me. While Reading Mia’s article and all the comments I know I have to have a pow wow with hubby so we are on the same page. I thought this Xmas I just want to get my daughter who will be 6 by then a set of swings AND THAT’S IT. We have gone as far as getting her 26 presents in one birthday to hear “I don’t want that”, “next”. We are spoiling our daughter and it’s got to stop. Money doesn’t love your child we do. You Rock I wish you were in my family.

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        • my2cents

          You’ve made my day–thanks! I think I wish you were in my family too, we would get on great! Good on ya with the swing set and standing your ground with the family. It’s tough being the odd one out sometimes but I’ve realized I would rather be the black sheep and be like them!

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  22. rima

    such a wonderful article!

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  23. Joy

    Want some cheese? It will go down well with that whine you are having! :)

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    • Cat

      Isn’t that the point of the article- kids whine and parents give in.

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  24. Away from Aus

    So true Mia! I have a tendency to be a wuss and in our family it’s needing ” A nice, cold can of harden up!”

    On a side note i live in New Zealand and am amazed at Kiwi toughness regarding the weather. It was 13 degrees last week and a boy of about 10 walked by me in shorts, bare feet walking across gravel. His Mum said he was just like his dad and they just never felt the cold. I see examples in our little town frequently, kids of 5 hopping off the bus and walking home on their own the rest of the way. It’s so refreshing to see these tough kids and they are always on bikes or with a ball never with ipods or gaming devices and so independent!

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  25. KP

    I plead guilty! We are very interested in buying a house, so we went to the open house on Saturday of one that looked really nice. I had a look in the bathroom and was disappointed that there was no heated towel rack like I have at the moment. So used to it now am spoilt!

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    • Sydgel

      Yes but they are fantastic for drying clothes especially underwear!!

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      • Kris2040

        So is a heater in the loungeroom with a rack/the stuff you need to dry hung on the washing basket, and if you’re desperate for a heated towel rail, I think it’s probably safe to assume you have a heater going.

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  26. Jay

    I presume the constant water quaffing thing came about from copying models and celebrities. I think if you eat very little drinking loads of water is probably necessary physically as well as a good substitution activity.

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    • Anonymous

      I almost always have a bottle of water with me, and its nothing to do with trying not to eat (although thirst can often be mistaken as hunger)
      I carry it with me as I need to drink a lot of water to replenish the litres I sweat in the 2+ hours of exercise at the gym I do per day (for work). I need to drink 3-4 litres or more each day.
      Plus good hydration is a very healthy habit to keep many of the vital organs functioning well. I’m not sure why this is suddenly under scrutiny

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  27. Jay

    I remember having a giggle at someone having a morning jog in Glebe in the Autumn carrying their water bottle. Yep, you might dehydrate on Glebe Point Rd in the 14 degree weather.

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    • Rose

      When you exercise, you usually sweat, even if it’s cold and you are running outside.
      You lose moisture through your lungs, as well as sweat.
      Some people sweat more than others, no matter how fit.
      You don’t know how long they have been running, or what health issues they might or might not have.
      So yes, you can dehydrate at any temperature, even walking.

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  28. Ron...

    Yup… Was only lamenting the same thing to my partner this morning after reading about the payments for the immunization program, the original idea was to offer a payment as an incentive for parents to get their kids jabbed, then some lovie dovie leftie in the govt thought that might upset the parents who oppose the immunization program and elect not to have their kids jabbed… Hello…… Harden up cup cake…

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  29. glad wrap

    i have been thinking of this ever since i saw that ad for the new glad wrap thing that chops the glad wrap off for you. a big bit of plastic attached to each box just so you don’t have to tear it off.

    i am the first to admit it isn’t the easiest of jobs but seriously get over it and just put up with that moment of slight annoyance. next thing you’ll be buying a box of gladwrap with a person attached to do it for you. seriously annoys me.

    be inconvenienced and then remember how f*cking lucky to be annoyed by such insignificant things. classic FWP

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    • mumof4

      I bought one when they first came out ( as they were half price) , mainly because my 9 yr old has a hard time with pulling the glad wrap off without it getting all stuck together. I found out that the homebrand wrap roll fits in it too so no need to buy the expensive replacement glad wrap brand roll. :-)

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  30. 19 8 1 14 5

    Yep, we are officially sooks.

    I would go to the pub with dad, the place smelt like tobacco, beer and urine. We’d go on holidays in an un airconditioned car in 40 degree heat and have to sit on vinyl seats. The seats were so hot that your arse would get burnt or if you were lucky enough to get the bit of the seat that had been in the shade, your arse would stick to the damn thing within a few minutes.

    I’m from Adelaide and the water was disgusting, on a good day you could fill the bath and just be able to see the bottom of the bath. I still don’t drink water after being brought up on the rubbish that came out of the tap in Adelaide. The poor demented fools will now proudly tell you that “it’s better than before now that it’s filtered”, in some devious attempt to get you to taste the rubbish. Adelaide water is still terrible, so I can understand why people drink bottled water there, but every other capital city has really high quality tap water, and I’m not sure anyone could really taste the difference anyway.

    But I digress, we rode our bikes to school from a young age, or we walked. On the odd day that we got money to buy lunch we could forgo a drink and catch the bus home. No-one’s mum came to pick anyone up, mainly because most families only had one car, and it was the father who took the car to work.

    But there were still bad things then, my sister was nearly abducted by an old freak, The beaumont kids disappeared as did Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirsty Gordan from the Adelaide Oval, never to be seen again.

    Then there was the punishments at school. At school assembly we were warned about damaging the trees within the school grounds, that afternoon I walked past a tree and absent mindedly pulled a leaf off, I got caned for that. Some teachers were downright cruel, like my first day of school in 1969 a kid wouldn’t stop crying, so he was belted with a yard stick. Other teachers would drag you around by the ear or hair. On the plus side, if you had a fight in the playground both parties would get caned and sent on your way. There was none of this rubbish counselling, kids either behaved or they were punished, it was simple time.

    It was a good time to grow up though, even as a 6 yo I would watch the tv and see the vietnam moritoriums, and the playing on tv of the south vietnemese policeman executing a criminal in the street. Today they won’t even show a picture of a wounded soldier for fear of offending someone. Those images helped change the world and end the war. I’m sure if we saw images of dead civilians and wounded soldiers screaming our ambivalence to war would be different. We saw a women executed last week and exeryone was shocked. It happens all the time but we just don’t see it now.

    But as kids we had freedom, we could bugger off for the day on a weekend and not be seen for 10 hours, our parents didn’t know where we’d been, we were just having fun, and breaking the odd bone every now and then. The next week we’d just bugger off with a plaster cast and every now and then come home with the plaster all smashed and soft, so you’d get told off and taken to the doctor to get a new cast. We took ourselves to the coach’s house on Saturday mornings on our bikes, then we’d pile in the back of the valiant station wagon and go play cricket. 11 kids in the back of a wagon and only 4 with seatbelts, if they were worn at all.

    My parents got their first tv when I was 5 so we could watch the moon landing, at the time only 1 in 4 houses had a tv, so we were inundated with neighbours to watch Armstrong and Aldrin walk on the moon.

    But are we softer? I’m not so sure, there are some groups who are, but today’s pressures on kids are way bigger than when I was a kid, teachers build up the expectations of yr 12 exams as being the hardest the kids will ever sit. Compared to 3rd year Engineering I’d say that yr 12 is a snap. Kids are expected to have more knowledge now than we ever did. Technology leads to information overload. technology has led to kids killing themselves because of bullying, we’d just have a fight after school and get it sorted. Our fights helped establish a pecking order, todays fights just humiliate.

    There’s good and bad to each era, but the bottom line is that the only thing that will never change is that things will always change.

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    • 19 8 1 14 5

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iuku5cBFJY

      This is what was shown on TV around the world back then.

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    • guest

      And we didn!t throw tantrums when we were out shopping because we didn`t get what we wanted. I am so over uncontrollable kids throwing tantrums in shopping centres, if your child can not behave … don`t inflict them on the rest of the community!!!!!

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      • Anonymous

        Aahhh…..yes you did.

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        • guest

          errrrrr no we didn`t, you would get belted if you carried on so stupid

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    • Etiquette 101

      S (19) H(8) A(1) N(14) E(5)

      23 20 6?

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  31. Etak

    A few years ago my family was on holiday, mum, sisters, husbands etc. I overheard the following exchange between my sister and her husband as they were making breakfast:

    Sister: oh my leg muscles are SO SORE. I did so many squats yesterday. I can hardly move!!!
    My (brave) BIL: oh baby. I think you just need a big glass of toughen up.

    It was hilarious and has since become a family favourite response to wussy winging.

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  32. JustMe

    My sister had to confiscate the kids ipods on a recent European road trip, they were driving through ancient cities and marvelling at all these fascinating sites, and what were the 10 year old and the 8 year olds doing??…….playing fruit ninja!!

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    • Yeah!

      Which probably goes to show that, unfortunately, a European trip is wasted on most 8 and 10 year-olds.

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      • Cordeline

        Maybe, maybe not.
        If they didn’t have the i-gadgets in the first place, they would be interested in their surroundings.

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        • Anonymous

          nope all my friends went on amazing holidays every year as kids. they didnt really care that much nor did they remember it. thats not something they can appreciate til the teen years.

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          • Kaz

            I agree. I went on many holidays when I was younger and remember very little. You can take a kid to Europe but you can’t force them to be interested. Disneyland would probably be better or Queensland.

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  33. Loop

    This is not a comment on the validity of the article – but an interesting aside.

    I just read the findings of a coroner’s report on an 11 year old who died of sepsis from acute appendicitis. She had been ill for about 5 days (though still eating a little bit). She was vomiting blood at one stage but the father thought she had eaten a caramel slice. He didn’t take her to the doctor because he thought she was only a little bit sick and she should toughen up. Her appendix ruptured and she was dead a few hours later.

    So I agree heartily with the article Mia … but I was thinking only a couple of hours ago that I was glad the tough love line doesn’t come naturally to me!

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    • 19 8 1 14 5

      That’s just stupidity on the father’s part.

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      • Loop

        Indeed. Five days …

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        • Miss

          Vomiting blood – who ignores that?!
          That poor little girl…

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          • Ana

            Some people are idiots. When I was pregnant I started vomiting blood. Called the hospital. They said come in get it checked out. Woke my husband who said “that’s not a problem is it? You just want to go and have some attention” Really wish that i’d been dying – pig…

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            • Loop

              OMG :( Hope he vomits blood one day for you to remind him of that incident …

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    • Anonymous

      Not sure how that story is relevant ?

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      • Loop

        “He didn’t take her to the doctor because he thought she was only a little bit sick and she should TOUGHEN UP” …

        “I was thinking only a couple of hours ago that I was glad THE TOUGH LOVE LINE doesn’t come naturally to me”.

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        • Anonymous

          Lol thanks the capitals really made the difference!
          Obviously that is a story of a neglectful father. It has no relevance to telling kids to harden up because they ask for a snack travelling 10 mins in the car.

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          • Nora

            It makes for an interesting comparison because it highlights the other extreme of using the term ‘toughen up’ when it’s actually justified to be complaining.

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    • Anonymous

      I think there is an obvious difference between being a negligent parent and being a patent that gives into the childs every whim and fancy.

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      • Loop

        I think there is an obvious difference between two extremes as well. Of course there’s a difference between a negligent parent and an indulgent parent..

        I was only giving an example of the other side of the ‘toughen up’ coin, when it goes to extremes.

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        • Jess

          Loop, I still don’t get your point at all. This has nothing to do with the article, I am sure that most people here know the difference between being a negligent parent, which was the case with this father, and raising a spoilt brat who can’t go 5 minutes without a snack, which is what we are talking about.

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  34. Hoobs

    We regularly went on long car trips with Mum & Dad. As the youngest of 3, on those trips that Grandma would join us, I sat on the hump (which don’t even exist in new cars, you know that rise in the floor between the front and back seats, in the middle of the car, with only a pillow to sit on) for 12 hours. Yep 12 hours, no seat belt, actually no seat… Anyway we use to keep the stats, we could tell you how many red cars, caravans, trucks etc we would pass. If one of us felt like a sleep it would be passed to someone else. We listened to the cricket, or football or what ever else was on the ABC radio. And worse than all that- we survived and and even worse than that- we didn’t mind. It is seriously my pet peeve, driving around home from work at night and seeing the head rests of the cars in front lit up with a DVD. I find 2 things wrong with this, 1stly it’s dangerous and distracting for those in the cars behind, and secondly that kids now expect to be constantly entertained, without using their imagination. Actually the 3rd thing is what is wrong with just you know talking to each other?

    Great article Mia:-)

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    • Cinnamon

      Loooollll Hoobs I too would have to sit on the hump! Thanks for bringing up those memories haha!

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    • Lozzy

      I sat on the hump too with no seatbelt! Once we got pulled over by the police and mum, in the passenger seat, just opened The Age right out so I was hidden from view.

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  35. Scarlett Harris

    I wussed out a bit when I read about your co-worker with the heated bathroom floor! Jealous! The heat lamp in the high ceiling in my bathroom is too far away from the floor to heat it: shattered!

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    • cmx

      I found that funny – I read it and was like “ahh, heated bathroom floor. Jealous!”. Because right now after a long fight with my real estate agent I’m feeling pretty grateful to have a working heater in the house, let alone the bathroom!

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  36. Dave

    Yep. We sure are.
    How much of this pressure contributes to post-natal anxiety and depression ? Not just for the Mums either. I can pretty much say that the constant stress of having to “be supermum” and complete absoption with everyone elses expectations has led to the destruction of our family.
    So glad to hear so many responding with some sense!

    Ronnie Johs (as Chopper) does a good line on hardening up.

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  37. Anonymous

    How about all those people in a staff meeting etc whom just can not switch their phones off just in case they are needed?

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    • Rose

      I don’t think phone on in meetings is a toughen up thing. It is usually (but not always) an egotistical statement of ” look how important I am”.

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  38. leonie

    This morning I saw an add for an Alkaline Ionized Water filter, so you could “wash all your clothes with correctly balanced water.” I didn’t realize that wearing clothes with an incorrect pH balance was so dangerous!

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  39. Gemma

    Wow, Mia, you’ve really put things into perspective for me! I’m currently comparing modern Aussies to the pampered, precious inhabitants of the Capitol in the Hunger Games trilogy.

    Until recently, watching TV after dinner with my partner would usually consist of sitting on the couch, half watching TV and half playing games or checking Facebook on our mobiles *headsmack*

    We’ve since instituted a policy that mobiles get left on the kitchen bench when we get home. We can hear them ring if necessary but maybe, just maybe, letting it go to voicemail while I do something as unimportant as looking after my herb garden wouldn’t hurt… right?

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  40. Guest

    Oh goodness me. It’s funny that we all recognise this and we think it is about time we did something about it, but who is going to lead that charge?
    I have been a Primary School teacher for 11 years and have spent 12 months in the PE role. The kids are precious, but so are the parents. We have to ensure they have ‘brain food’ and always have access to water because they might dehydrate in 60 min. The parents are the ones who ask so much of us now, often supporting a more harden up approach – and why is that? – because they don’t want to it themselves – then they become the bad guy and risk not being their kids friend!!

    As for the students, we do a 5 minute warm up and suddenly we’re too tired, too cold/warm or the classic – ‘My Mum doesn’t want me to do sport because I was a bit sore after basketball training last night, and I’ve got to be ok for the game on the weekend’!!!!!! Give me a break!!!

    oh and on the waiting thing – I actually get really frustrated by the fact that I have to wait until the bell goes so that I can go to the toilet! Gee, but the kids don’t for fear of their being anxiety issues or a UTI – oh but I’m just the teacher – apparently my bladder operates differently to a child!!

    The pure fact that education has now become more edutainment – these kids are not encouraged to just ‘be’ – why would they want to do that – they might miss out/not win/get hungry/thirsty or heaven forbid find their own source of entertainment sans technology!

    Now there is a challenge

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    • Kris2040

      On prac the kids would come up at 5 or 10 minutes till recess or lunch asking if they could go to the toilet, and the looks on their faces when they’d be told “No, wait till lunch” was priceless.

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      • Claire

        I’m sorry but I hate this attitude! My 9yo cousin explained to me that she couldn’t focus on her school work during class because she needed to wee so badly and the teacher wouldn’t let her. The attitude was ‘you should’ve weed during the break’ and she’s like ‘I didn’t need to go then plus you drink water during the break so it makes sense that you need to wee after the break’. I think kids should be treated with a little more dignity.

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        • Natski

          One of my most vivid memories of Yr 1 was when I was refused permission to go to the toilet. So I wet myself.

          I do recall thinking “Serves you right – I told you that I needed to go!”

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          • Cordeline

            This happened to my friend’s daughter a couple of years ago when she was in Grade 1 and she weed herself. The poor kid still gets upset about it and some of the brat kids in her class still remind her about it.

            Young kids aren’t great at realising they will need the toilet soon and have no concept of what ’5 minutes’ is.

            When ya gotta go, ya gotta go!

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        • Kris2040

          You think it’s unreasonable to ask someone to wait 5 minutes till lunch/recess to go to the loo? Seriously?

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          • Nora

            Some kids don’t tell you they need to pee until they’re already at the busting stage! I think asking if they can hold on 5 minutes would be the reasonable thing to do.

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            • Kris2040

              I never heard a teacher say “No” and that was it. Everyone would say “It’s only 5 minutes till the bell, you can wait that long, can’t you?” And by the time they fartarsed around packing up and re-ordering their pencils in the correct pattern, it’s time to go.

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        • Kris2040

          You think it’s unreasonable to ask someone to wait 5 minutes till lunch/recess to go to the loo? Seriously?

          Are you scarred from having to wait to go to the loo in your life?

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        • Agreed.

          There are far too many kids with medical conditions (eg Crohn’s) that are getting around now, either diagnosed or otherwise. As a teacher I would never (now) say no to a child needing to use the bathroom, because you just don’t know. And the good teachers can usually tell when it’s just a boredom/attention-seeking/get out of work ploy.

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    • Anonymous

      Um, the parents complaining about the school providing healthy nutritious food is actually a hinderance to you?

      Did you not know that white bread is not good for you, or lots of sugar etc?

      My goodness, your the first teacher I have heard of who does not care about the nutritional intake of her students, as I am not sure if your aware, but the healthier children eat, the better they will perform at school?

      Maybe you need to use your research skills and find the large body of empircal evidence supporting such views.

      If anything, you should be grateful that you have such parents at your school!

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      • Kris2040

        Guest didn’t say anything about white bread or the school providing nutritious food. I think you might have hit your own tangent there, anon.

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        • Emmy

          She did refer to having to ensure students eat ‘brain food’ and water – I think that’s what anon meant.

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          • Anonymous

            Exactly emma. Most of us know that brain food means “healthy wholesome” foods, such as wholemeal bread, fruits and veges and limited sugar.

            I am wondering if Kris knows anything about nutirtion or what brain food means?

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            • Kris2040

              I do, but I think maybe you’re still over-reacting a tad. You don’t need to eat all the time to be able to do your school work. Send your kids to school with “wholesome brain food” yourself rather than hassling teachers about it. Nutirtion is cool!

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      • Anonymous

        Hahahaha relax princess

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        • Dee of Adelaide

          I think she is referring to these new breaks to eat that most schools seem to have. You have breakfast at 7.30 and now you need a piece of fruit at 9.30. Can’t possibly survive without food from 7.30 – 11.30. Madness IMO.

          Doing the school rounds this year – state schools and low fee catholic ones – I was shocked to see that it was the ‘norm’ to have waterbottles lined up against the wall of the classroom you could use at any time. (Um – isn’t that what the bubbler is for at recess and lunch?) and about 3/4 had FRIDGES for lunches. A ‘brain food’ break at 9.30 (school starts at 8.45..).

          So if I read Guest correctly she is referring to need to feed these little preciouses at every available opportunity .

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          • Anonymous

            Oh my god. They’re almost treating the children as though they are human beings!

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            • cmx

              Right, and where you work you get food breaks every hour?

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            • Anonymous

              My son has breakfast at 6. By 9 he has been without food for 3 hours. Of course that is not going to kill him but a small snack will mean that he concentrates better and learns more. I bet you there are a lot of teachers who’ve seen the difference it makes and are in favor of the snack break.
              I imagine it probably makes a big difference with the kids who have had sugary cereal for breakfast and have their blood sugar crashing at around 9.

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          • Aero27holidays

            I am a teacher and give my class what I have called a “power break.” they are allowed only fresh fruit or veg and water. I give them this opportunity to refresh as I don’t know how long it has been since they had breakfast. My 6 year old has breakfast at 6am so by 9:45 he would be starving. It also gives my class a chance to move around for a minute or so and research shows that children need physical movement to enhance learning. I would never take away this break from my class.

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            • mumof4

              my sons’ grade 4 teacher does this too. She calls it ‘crunch and munch’. They are only allowed fruit/veges and water. The kids love it. At least the kids are getting at least one serve of fruit, because if a child doesn’t have something ( they usually do), his teacher gives them an apple. She’s the best teacher.

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            • Kris2040

              It’s usually a school policy. All the way through if they want it and have it, they can. I doubt many teachers have an issue with munch and crunch (or whatever your school calls it), but having to police it understandably pisses people off.

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            • mumof4

              It’s not our schools’ policy, it’s up to the individual teacher if they have crunch and munch or not. Grade 1 teacher did, 2 and 3 didn’t, now his grade 4 teacher does.

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          • Rudyroo

            My kids wake up starving. And I mean really physically requiring food at 5-6am. So they breakfast at about 6. Leaving it any later results in meltdowns. They also need to eat again 2-3 hrs later. If not they get fatigued, cranky and unable to focus.

            They get first break at school at 10.40 I think So that’s 4 1/2 hrs without food. The result is they fall in a heap later in the day and can’t make it through the school day. I have to feed them again just before school starts (something on the way to school) as they dont get a ‘power’ break like other schools Otherwise they just can’t function at school. That’s just their biochemical make up.
            Kids should apparentlyeat everyn2-3 hours through the day. They exert so much energy. Schools have finally worked out by doing this they have better attention and behaviour from the kids.

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            • Kris2040

              Why don’t you give them something to have just before school if they’re eating so early?

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            • anon

              i know kids like this too and they eat dinner really early. Like around 5.30pm. Then they go to bed at 7 so they wake starving at 5am. Could you move their dinner routine to later at night?

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            • Rudyroo

              That’s what I do Kris, as I said above.

              Anon, they have dinner somewhere 5.30 to 6.30. They don’t manage it any later. If I try it later they then won’t eat and that leads to a tough day the next day.

              Ive tried everything. My eldest is nearlyn10 and she is now starting to settle a bit….can eat brekkie late, eat dinner later…my youngest at five though and she still has phases where she needs to eat every 11/2 hours. And nothing stops her waking at 5am, sometimes 4am. Which leads to the question of why am I up so late on mamamia?!

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            • Kris2040

              Hey Rudyroo, I worded that badly – it was directed at everyone making the complaint, not you specifically. :)

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          • Happymum

            Our school introduced a fruit at 10am policy, because children in rural areas are usually on the bus extra early in the morning. And it’s a long time between breakfast and recess for them. I think it is brilliant, and it gets kids eating another serve of fruit or veg in their day.

            They concentrate a lot better and work harder with a boost in their morning. Water bottles are in the classroom, so the kids don’t have an excuse to go and take many trips to the bubblers to get out of class. Also it is bloody hot where I am, so water in class is a good thing!

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    • Anonymous

      Kids have a much smaller bladder capacity than adults. You have to wait ’til the bell goes so that you can go to the toilet because you are an adult. It’s easy for an adult to hold on for that long, much harder for a child.

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      • Kathy W

        That’s true for the little ones – but I teach 12-18 year olds who ask to go to the toilet straight after lunch because they were too busy socialising to go to the bathroom. They tell me this!

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        • Anonymous

          I meant it as a reply to ‘Guest’ above who is apparently a Primary School teacher. He\she was complaining that they have to wait to go to the toilet while the students are allowed to go when they want.

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    • Faybian

      Yes, children have a smaller bladder than adults, particularly little kids, but if they ask for the loo 5 min before break they can wait.
      I think the provision of brain food is the responsibility of the parents actually. By all means ensure the tuckshop has healthy food, but if you’re depending on it as a parent, then maybe you need to take a look at yourself.

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      • Anonymous

        I think the ‘brain food’ is supplied by the parents. At my sons school they ask us to send in a piece of fruit. The argument is over the fact that it takes up class time having an extra break early in the morning.

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      • mumof4

        sometimes little kids CAN’T wait 5 minutes. Usually when a small child says they need to go to the toilet, they need to go right away.

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        • Kris2040

          We’re not talking about small kids. We’re talking about high school in Kathy’s case and year 5 in my case.

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          • mumof4

            I wasn’t responding to your comment, kris2040.

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            • Kris2040

              Just pointing out that the comments that started this toilet going stuff were about older kids and teenagers, mumof4. No-one’s suggesting telling toilet training toddlers be made to wait unreasonable lengths of time. Or that anyone is being made to wait unreasonable lengths of time, actually…

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            • Anonymous

              I should of gone to bed, I was very tired, and I did miss the point a bit. :-)

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  41. Benita (MissBenben)

    Oh Mia I could’ve written this! Just lately I’ve noticed the constant WHINGING around dinnertime. “Muuum can I have a biscuit” and I’m like “no, I’m COOKING DINNER!!” “But I’m HUNGRY NOW!!” Geez buddy you can’t wait 15 minutes till dinner’s on the table??? Gah. I remember a while back you wrote a post about how we don’t let our kids be bored anymore, and this sort of fits in with that sentiment; like the world’s going to end for them if they have to be bored for an hour, or thirsty until we get home, or hungry until dinner’s on the table.

    Great Post. x

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  42. Renae

    What is the deal with the DVD players in cars??? (or kids needing ipads etc while travelling?)
    We used to do VERY REGULAR 4 hour car trips to Perth from the time I was born until… well we still do it. When you live in the country, you have to go to the capital city for all kinds of things like specialist appointments, surgeries, to buy things you can’t get locally, for work (my parents owned a transport company doing that run)…
    We didn’t have DVD players. We couldn’t read books either, because that made us throw up. We had to play I spy, or mum would make us listen to “times tables” tapes in an effort to get us to learn them. Possibly the worst (and most un-wussbag) thing was that dad wouldn’t make unscheduled stops. You peed when he stopped, and if you didn’t, you held it. (That backfired on him once or twice, but usually, we just learned to hold it. Needless to say, I have great bladder control as an adult ;)

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    • Kathy W

      Hahahaha! As a kid we lived in Wagga (country NSW) and regularly drove to Sydney for family visits – about eight hours back in those days. Dad smoked all the way there – with the windows up – and yep – when he stopped that was the pee stop, like it or lump it. As I recall, the pee stop was in Yass and that was it. One stop all the way to Sydney.

      We never stopped to eat either – no gigantic roadside McDonalds back then – it was the Golden Fleece cafe or nothing. Dad refused to pay for their food so we sat in the car and starved or ate vegemite sandwiches while gazing wistfully at everyone hooking into their bacon & eggs while dad filled up the VW. Lousy bugger wouldn’t even buy us a paddle pop.

      Thing is, these days I live 2 hours away from Sydney and my sons would riot in the car if I didn’t include a mandatory McDonalds stop at Albion Park or Engadine on the way.

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    • Ali

      Aaah yes the long road trip. We had plenty as kids every weekend during spring/summer. From my memory I never seemed bored, however my mother tells a different story. THEN then I became a mother and a driver with 2 girls going “are we there yet” every 2 mins after about the first 10, or “I need to go to the toilet” 20mins after the last toilet stop. Thank goodness for iPods, iPads or any other device I can get my hands on, I say.

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      • Renae

        Hey Ali…
        Not having a go at you AT ALL… but do you ever wonder if the attitude of todays parents of “whatever will shut them up” is part of the reason kids are so entitled??
        Kids know if they make enough fuss, we’ll give them something to pacify them.

        (Like I said, I’m not trying to have a go at you. I don’t have kids, but I do have a niece and nephew who are hard work, and I totally understand this behaviour. I just wonder if it is part of what is causing the problem we were discussing in the first place!!)

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        • silentlyscreaming

          I’m inclined to agree with you Renae. I have 2 little ones, and I find myself giving in on some things just for some peace! I’m not proud, but some days it’s just too much to listen to a 2 and 4 yr old screaming in the back seat. Literally screaming, just because it’s fun. Today they sat in the back seat and crowed like roosters. I wanted to pull over and let them run free like roosters after about 2 minutes of that!
          I think sometimes I need to HTFU and ignore the whinging, because they really do think they’re entitled to everything, and I didn’t think we gave in that much…

          Enjoyed the article, certainly got me thinking!

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        • Lozzy

          My dad used to open a pack of lollies where we could see them, and when we were good for a whole hour, we’d get one each, when we were bad, he’d throw a handful out the window.

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    • Hoobs

      I posted above about my child hood car trips but also on our car trips, Dad’s moto was you only stop the car when it needs petrol. Worst was a 6 hr straight stretch without stopping at which point even dad was in a hurry to get to the toilet. But it has backfired on them somewhat. I have taken both of my smoking parents from Brisbane to Rockhampton in my non smoking car, which can do the trip without stopping.

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    • Mrs M

      The memories……my dad made me pee in my Strawberry Shortcake cup and mum threw it out the window because he didn’t want to stop and have all the trucks and caravans pass us. And we didn’t even play games, we had to endure Neil Diamonds Hot August Nights all the way to Coffs Harbour with dad’s fishing rods dangling over our heads

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      • Melsie

        That’s hysterical!

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      • Hoobs

        Yep I think you win!!

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  43. Anon

    With regard to your friend taking the kids on a European holiday – that could be cruelty to the parents, not the other way round lol. We took our adolescent boys to Europe, kept it short and sweet but after two weeks of looking at ‘old buildings and churches’ i.e. beautiful architecture, they’d had enough. They are not ungrateful or unintelligent children, quite the reverse actually, however at that point in their lives they were just not that into it. Keep that in mind when planning a trip with kids to Europe is all I’m sayin’.

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    • A

      Ahhh, you’ve got to mix the architecture/history/statues etc with plenty of kids stuff too (or it will be mostly boring for them!) my boys were cool with the ‘grown up’ places that we went to in 4 1/2 weeks in Europe cos we mixed it up a lot, thank god for arcades/interactive science museums & the like! :-)

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    • anon

      I agree. The galleries, churches and old buildings nearly drove me to tears let alone my kids! Thank God for angry birds on my iphone ;)

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  44. Amanda

    Brilliant article. We all need to remind ourselves how lucky we are. I try to say to my girls (6 & 3) if they’re bored I can find them a job to do and if they’re hungry the fruit bowl is always open (at home) if we’re out then tough! And the portable DVD comes out for car journeys over 2 hours only.

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    • silentlyscreaming

      We only bring out the portable DVD for trips longer than 2 hours as well. Last time we went away, I left the player on the back of the seat and the kids asked for it every time we got in the car. For a 10-15 minute trip. I laughed at them. A lot.

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  45. Anna

    Water. That one really gets me, people wandering around with a bottle stuck in their hand. It’s usually women, presumably on the quest to attain crystal clear skin. I see girls walking about carrying massive bottles of water, guzzling away. It’s not even on hot days either. What about if you suddenly need a toilet?

    I don’t carry water unless it’s hot or I’m doing the coastal walk. You don’t need a 1.5 litre bottle of water for a trip to Bondi Junction or on the bus to work, even if you’ve been to the gym. Drink your water after the activity. Done.

    I now await the comments from people who have to drink water every 5 minutes or they’ll get a UTI.

    Off topic somewhat, but what is it about people at concerts who have to drink alcohol throughout the performance? I went to see Flight of the Conchords recently and couldn’t believe the amount of people going backwards & forwards during the show coming back with trays of drinks. At the start of the show, I can understand, but during? What’s that about? Then of course the drinking caused toilet trips.

    You pay a lot of money to see a show. Why not see it? If you want to drink throughout get a bloody DVD.

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    • Elizabeth...

      AMEN!!!! I used to think there was something wrong with me if I wasn’t swigging entire litres of water per day. The thing is when I did try this I would have to go to the loo every five minutes.

      Thankfully this notion of drinking 2 litres a day has now been proven to be a bit of a furphy. You would think that our generation discovered water suddenly. What about people in my parents day that lived perfectly fine without drinking litres of water a day. How did they cope???

      Our bodies are pretty amazing. It can derive water from many sources, be it peppermint tea, fruit, vegetables that contain water. We will not keel over and die if we don’t have litres of water per day. And no…you won’t get clear skin by drinking heaps of water…eat healthily, don’t smoke, stay of the sun.

      PS. I have good skin. I don’t look my age…I have very few wrinkles…but that is genetic. And no…that wasn’t achieve by drinking litres of water per day. That was just dumb luck.

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      • Anonymous

        i agree with this – you can get water through fruit and vegetables but the fact that kids and adults these days eat so much packaged and process foods, there is no water in them! The article mentions all the snacks required for a car trip – where is the water in those squeezie yoghurt, rice biscuits, chips, muesli bars etc?

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        • Cold

          Drinking during a car trip is a no no for me. Nothing worse than needing the loo with nothing in sight. Hell on wheels!

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        • Kris2040

          Dairy has actually been shown to be a more effective hydrator than water.

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          • M

            huh? Where did you get that from?

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            • Kris2040

              http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Skimmed-milk-better-than-isotonics-for-post-sport-rehydration

              It was being reported on a few years ago. Try it out.
              Why do you think it wouldn’t be?

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            • Diana The Huntress

              Wonder who funded that study…

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            • MJ

              I remain skeptical. I wouldn’t put much stock in that research, doesn’t sound as though it’s been conclusively proven.
              Lol ‘why do you think it wouldn’t be’ .. why would anyone automatically think it would be?
              I do like milk but, I am drinking it riiight now.

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            • Kris2040

              I didn’t laugh at you asking a question, why laugh at me? I linked a whole page of scholar stuff just below.
              I also didn’t say anything about automatically thinking it would or wouldn’t be, I just asked why you wouldn’t think it would be, and that you try it out.

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          • Guest

            That study had only 11 subjects. Therefore very difficult to extrapolate to a wider population. And in the very first paragraph they state “MAY promote recovery and rehydration” not will promote…..

            And I can’t imagine for the life of me drinking milk after a hard exercise session – I think I’d throw it up as quick as it went down.

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          • princesstan

            Definitely find that hard to believe. If anything dairy makes me even thirstier.

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        • Elizabeth...

          Well here’s a tip…take pieces of fruit or vegies with you on a car trip…or one bottle of juice. Problem solved :-) If they are really hungry than that’s what they will eat.

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          • Faybian

            As long as its just one small bottle. Having excessive amounts of juice for you isn’t great either.

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      • BecR

        Sooo agree about the drinking at concerts, sporting events, etc etc. Drinks are way overpriced yet people buy trays upon trays of drinks and bring them to their seats because god forbid they sit through 1-2 hours without a constant supply of alcohol?

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        • Kathy W

          I went to see AC/DC and my ex partner couldn’t bear to be without a beer for 2 hours – so he left the concert to stand in a queue for half an hour to buy beer – and missed his three favourite songs. Sucked in, I say!

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        • Masd270248

          I agree, at the Leeuwin concert in Margaret River, where the cheapest tickets are $150 each, yobs talk and and guzzle beer the whole way through, why bother going? a quiet drink, yes, but please let’s listen to the music! I have noticed its not as bad during a classical music concert, so we won’t be going back if it’s contemporary music

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      • 19 8 1 14 5

        This is where you need water…

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    • Anonymous

      I see what your saying….

      BUT… I stopped drinking water since my child was born 3 years ago. Ok. Not entirely, but I stopped c arrying my water around like I did.

      I have now for over a month been drinking at least 2 litres of water a day and my skin is looking ridicously amazing and I am not as hungary,s o Ive lost 3 kilos.

      I guess I will keep drinking alot of water.

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    • graciousr

      Ok Anna, I’ll bite.

      I don’t complain about it, I don’t make a big deal of it, I just bring a waterbottle filled up with tap water from home. It’s in my handbag and I take a few sips when I want to. If you’ve ever had an incredibly painful UTI you wouldn’t think there was a need for me to ‘harden up’. Happy to be a wuss in that respect!

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    • Just saying...

      I really don’t get people who complain about those of us carrying around water. Some of us get thirsty! Not only that if you need a drink water is by far the healthiest choice.

      Anyway it’s kind of funny really if that’s the most offensive thing that I do.

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    • Melanie

      Seriously? You’re having a go at people carrying around water? I mean, it’s not as if they’re hurting anyone.

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  46. Elizabeth...

    Milk. Yep milk. THE WORLD WILL COME TO AN END IF THERE ISN’T ANY MILK IN THE (WORK) FRIDGE!!!!

    You see I work as a temp. There was one place where my supervisor was OBSESSED about me checking the milk. In order to satisfy this pedantic pain in the arse I would had to check the fridge at least 5 times a day so we WOULDN’T RUN OUT OF MILK. Except I didn’t. I would only check about once a day. I was the receptionist so I had better things to do with my time – like answer a phone and attend reception – than check milk. This pain in the arse even would write half page emails about – wait for it – about milk. Apparently it was my fault that everyone would have huge bowls of cereal or had a caffeine or tea addition at irregular intervals.

    I now temp somewhere else and my supervisor said like an angel from God..well…if we run out milk…we run out of milk. End of story. We order so many litres a week and if we run out we run out. I was so exicted by her logic I wanted to marry her that instant.

    But you would be amazed about how many have near BREAKDOWNS when there is no milk in the fridge and expect you to drop everthing to get milk because they want their coffee/tea NOW.

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    • Mummameme

      I took over a receptionists job once and the girl before me would run out for milk at the drop of a hat, so I started buying UHT and never had to stop to buy milk. No one ever complained!!

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      • Elizabeth...

        I tried that once and they still whinged that it wasn’t ‘fresh’.

        These people had a gall to complain when all this milk was paid for courtesy of the taxpayer. The hide.

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    • MissV

      Oh my this is like my work! I work in a call centre, that’s short staffed and we cover reception as well.
      Despite having an Aldi at the bottom of the driveway, people would come to me asking to get milk.

      I’m sorry but i can’t leave the reception desk to get you milk. Why? Because if i miss an important message for you, i’ll get in trouble.

      Why don’t people understand that they can actually get off their ass and get it themselves? They’ll even be reimbursed for it if they keep their receipt!!

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      • Elizabeth...

        AMEN SISTER!!! Exactly. What is more important to your business?

        1. The Receptionist getting your stupid f*cking milk so you can your precious coffee or tea NOW

        OR…(call me crazy here…)

        2. Making sure they are doing their JOB and picking up and transferring phone calls that could make a difference to your business BOTTOM LINE AND PROFITS…

        Your choice folks. If I was a business owner I know what I would pick.

        For the love of Pete…don’t EVER look at your Receptionist and say ‘There’s no milk’…ie What are you going to do about it??

        They have a job to do like everyone else. It’s an important job. Help support them in doing that and get the f*cking milk yourself or someone who can actually afford to leave the office for more than five minutes. They are PAID to be AT Reception. That’s the reason they are called the RECEPTIONIST.

        There…now that feels better. Rant over.

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  47. Ozlicious

    We went on European and American driving holidays when I was growing up, and yes, I will admit that it was kind of boring and I did long for some form of entertainment (Sweet Valley High books aside). But I coped with it, and I honestly became really good at using my imagination. God, I remember flying many, MANY times with nothing except the Ansett-issue colouring-in book – or, when I was a bit older, an issue of Dolly which mum had bought me as a treat for the trip.

    My stepkids, on the other hand, are TOTALLY the kind of kids that would keel over and die without a water bottle on the way to the supermarket. And forget a two-hour flight unless you have water, snacks, iPad, PSP, headphones, and you have peed a thousand times before getting on the plane. They are 100% of the generation that has no ability to entertain itself or practice any form of patience.

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  48. Freyja

    yeah, me….Im in need of a concrete breakfast this morning. Ive been back in Aussie for two weeks after an 18 year absence, and Im missing my mates, family and kids, not to mention my cat who’s gone AWOL since arriving here.
    But God Dammit, this is what I wanted, Im living with my partner, so I dont have to pay out for rent, etc, this is my home and I dont feel right anywhere but here, my partners family and mates have been amazing and welcoming and theres a cute cute dog next door that I can cuddle any time I want. Note to self….harden up already!!

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  49. Faybian

    To a certain extant I’m all for preparedness. You know, books, electronics, food and water on a long journey, but boredom, hunger and thirst are a part of life.
    We can’t expect to be really entertained 24/24 and I guess letting kids know that early on helps them develop their own resources and prepares them for the more mundane parts of their lives.
    My son’s a bit a shocker with boredom. Doesn’t cope with it. Since he’s an adult this translates to him. Eing on the phone all the time, or going out too much. Occasionally I tell him he should read again, but you can lead a horse to water.
    I do admit that I take water with me a lot, but my excuse is that the right side of my mouth and lower face is partly numb and pins & needlesy since surgery, so I don’t have great control over my saliva production. Good excuse hey?

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  50. MJ

    I love Louis CK! He’s so funny

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