You may recognise her name, or perhaps more so her blogger moniker, $120 food challenge, Sandra Reynolds has been a devoted Mamamia reader, writer and is now a success in her own right. The premise of her blog came about as an unemployed, mother-of-two who had to feed her her family a week’s worth of meals from the measly $60 Salvos allowance. What happened next was that she developed a following, inspired others with her nutritious creativity, and subsequently book publishers caught on and offered her a book deal. A well deserved book deal, at that.
However, the last three days have not been amongst her best, caught in the eye of a media storm (been there done that, here). Sandra has been subject to some nasty online vitriol after she appeared in an article in the Sydney Morning Herald you can read that here. Presently caught in a limbo between not working and trying to establish herself as an author and food writer, it was this quote from the article which angered readers:
“I do hope to keep going but at the same time I have to be careful with Centrelink, I have to keep looking for jobs,” she says. “I’d like to work until I can do this full time. I kind of like being a food writer.”
Just for the record, Sandra has not asked us to write anything, we came across John Birmingham’s article from the Brisbane Times and thought he summed it up perfectly.
“There’s a perfectly good support system for hungry musicians,” said the rock journalist. “It’s called the dole.”
I’m paraphrasing. It was 20 years ago, and I used to have bongs for breakfast in those days. So my memory’s not perfect. But, as I recall, we were discussing some dodgy Hawke government scheme for supporting the music industry. Specifically, rock music.
The venerable old rock writer, whom I won’t verbal by naming, thought it a terrible idea. Feral rock pigs should be writing awesome guitar anthems (which totally dates that conversation), not grant applications. Should they have trouble feeding themselves, there was always the dole. If they were any good they’d eventually make enough money for the tax man to come after them. If they didn’t, teachers’ college awaited.
It was Darwinian, but it sat easily with me. Still does. After all, I was a teenaged dole bludger. A 20-something bludger too. In fact, as a baby writer, I was on and off the dole so many times I sort of lost count. But I think I might’ve topped out at about seven.
Go on, tell me all about how I ripped you off. Work yourselves up into a spit-flecked rage, like you did with that poor woman earlier this week; the single mum who tossed in some dead-end casual McJob, only to find she couldn’t feed herself, or her kids. Sandra Reynolds, her name was. And now she has a book deal with Penguin.
Like a lot of people who find themselves out of a job, Sandra had time on her hands. Unlike many, she did something with it. Something useful besides collecting rejection letters from employers who didn’t want her. She started collecting recipes. Ways of feeding a family for $120 a fortnight – the value of the food vouchers she received from the Salvation Army at her lowest point.
She posted her recipes online, and gradually built up a following. A big enough following so that one day a publishing house came calling.
Sandra Reynolds did exactly what I did, and what a lot of people have done over the years, but she did it in a shorter period of time than me and the end results were arguably more useful. I drifted on and off the dole, and after many years finally wrote a book about falafels. Sort of. Reynolds seems to have spent much less time on the dole and has written a book about how to cook falafels. Sort of. Or maybe fish finger sandwiches, or something. You get my point.
What’s the difference between us?
Go read the comments in response to the original story. Old JB walks away with the goldplated hovercraft and a squadron of Playboy bunnies. Sandra Reynolds cops a toxic torrent of abuse that would break the spirits of the most of the vicious little pissants who decided to have a go at her.
Bottom line: Reynolds’ book will probably be a monster seller. It’s a great idea with a great story behind it. There will almost certainly be a sequel. She will make a motza out of it, and good luck to her. She deserves it. She earned it. And, here’s the money shot, she will almost certainly pay more tax on the profits from that book than she has ever been paid in welfare. Many more times.
The two-dollar heroes bagging her out make me sick. You roll in here with your lynch ropes and your nail-studded clubs screaming for vengeance against some woman you think dudded you out of your hard-earned. Two words. Bull and shit. You paid about one tenth of 1 per cent of bugger all to keep her children fed when she couldn’t find work.
I hesitate to write this next passage because it’s unfair. But I’m going to anyway. You deserve it.
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I rorted you something fierce when I was on the dole. I had not the slightest intention of seriously looking for work. All I wanted to do was have enough time to build up my writing to the point where I could feed myself and keep a roof over my head. A leaky roof. And the feeds weren’t that flash either. I wasn’t always on the dole. Every now and then I managed to find part-time work that kept me in the poverty to which I’d become accustomed, and that allowed me to keep writing. But at least six or seven times I went back on the public tit.
Why do I feel comfortable telling you this now? Because I have been writing full-time for 20 years and I’ve put many more dollars back into the system via tax than I ever took out of it while on the dole. Got me a nice big tax bill sitting on my desk right now, in fact, waiting on a royalty cheque from the US. Mmm, revenuelicious.
If a woman like Sandra Reynolds needs a hand up via the welfare system when she’s at her lowest point, I’m happier to see my tax dollars spent on her than I am on the middle-class welfare you’ve probably got your hands out for. Your baby bonuses. Your family tax benefits. Your private school subsidies. Your superannuation tax breaks. Your private health insurance rebates. Your first-home owner schemes. Shall we go on?
The attack on Reynolds reminded me of a Henry Kissinger quip about academic in-fighting. The fighting is vicious because the stakes are so low. There are so many other, worthier, targets than a single mum who used the long, dark teatime of unemployment to fashion herself a slightly alternative income stream. News flash: that’s what welfare does. It helps people until they can help themselves. It didn’t fail in the Reynolds case. It wasn’t rorted. It did exactly what it was supposed to do, and now she’ll pay it all back and then some when the ATO does its sums at the end of financial year.
Go Google ”Operation Wickenby” and you’ll get a quick and dirty education in who the real rorters are in this country. And they’re not unemployed single parents faffing around on Facebook.
WHO IS JOHN BIRMINGHAM? *John Birmingham is an Australian author, most noted for his memoir He Died With A Felafel In His Hand, which has since been turned into a play, film and a graphic novel. The sequel is The Tasmanian Babes Fiasco. The play was written and produced by thirty-six unemployed actors. It went on to become the longest running stage play in Australian history. Other works by him include The Search for Savage Henry, How To Be A Man, Off One’s Tits and Leviathan: the unauthorised biography of Sydney, which won Australia’s National Prize For Non-Fiction in 2002. He contributes to the Brisbane Times and you can find his blog, Cheeseburger Gothic here.










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The economy is all an illusion anyway. How can we argue about a system which has no logical correlation between the input of effort versus the output of rewards. Of the people who do work, the people who work the hardest (i.e. most physical) typically get paid the least and get treated with disrespect by their workplace superiors.
I studied in my youth and am thankful that I can now lounge around in an air-conditioned environment, check my personal e-mails, have unlimited tea/coffee and use the toilet whenever I like. Of course I “earnt” these perks and the >50% higher income because my company must obviously make such a “huge contribution” to achieving society’s goals. And that investment property I own must somehow contribute to society since the government decided it should thereby lower my overall income tax?
It’s funny how people have an image in their mind of how society works, like we’ve all signed some sort of life-long agreement upon birth. People only complain because they’re sheep and have been told to feel upset about people that don’t pull their weight. Like someone else already hinted at, this sense of injustice allows our standard “Australian dream” to perpetuate itself – that is that we all want to get married in our late twenties and work in a 9-5 job 5 days a week for at least the subsequent 10-30 years to pay off a mortgage which accounts for 70% of our income. We minimise the number of people that don’t desire to fit into this mould and are happy just “getting by” by creating a social mentality that promotes competitive behaviour and imparts guilt for minimalism.
A great fear of western governments and their economies would be an overwhelming portion of society that “doesn’t want anything”. As one gets richer he/she inadvertantly desires increasing numbers of items non-essential to survival. If more and more people just wanted the basics to eat and a bed (not a “property”) to sleep there would be no economic development or productivity as one could get by on 1 day of work per week and the industrial organisations couldn’t exploit the people for profit via a complex supply chain.
Since we live in a society so fixated on our modern-day image the majority of us couldn’t imagine a functional society which spends more time focusing on life’s pleasures rather than worrying about winning the game of life.
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Love that you’ve pointed out the idea of “creating a social mentality that promotes competitive behaviour and imparts guilt for minimalism.”
Awesomely put
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Great article…
As a retired principal of a disadvantaged school I’m proud that we provide support for those in need. A visit to the USA should convince people of this.
Apart from the humanitarian aspect, kiddies go hungry too, without it crime would increase.
Yes there are bludgers, many unhappy souls, and for their self-esteem some sort of part-time work programme would be great… gardening, hospital visits etc.
Over the decades I’ve paid a huge amount of tax and as a single childless female haven’t had much of it back, but I’m happy to support people who are genuinely trying to better their situation.
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They are both Dole Bludgers, they should be ashamed of themselves. And the tax argument is so lame coming from John Birmingham that he makes me sick. I say cut the Dole out altogether then people would get off their fat asses and work
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Dad? Is that you?
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you crack me up kris!
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Your dad is Tony Abbott?
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Sandra’s story rocks. As does John’s article. As a middle class tax payer I would much prefer my tax dollars spent on supporting families like Sandra’s than the middle-class welfare which I may potentially benefit from one day (being 28 and childless).
She used the dole to find a means of supporting herself… isnt that just brilliant.
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I love Sandra’s story and have the greatest respect for her. I don’t know what I would have done if I had been in the same situation. For her to then go on and share her tips and what she has learnt is incredibly admirable. I think John Birmingham has said it perfectly too.
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There will always be a certain number of people on welfare in this country always. Some require it because of age, disability, carer, parenting or other circumstances. Others because they ‘are looking for work’. There will never be enough jobs for 100% employment and so there will always be so-called able bodied people who are capable of working who will be in receipt of welfare. I suspect many of these hate their predicament and for those who don’t who are welfare dependant I can only feel pity because the only people they are really cheating is themselves.
For those that begrudge welfare receipients it might be useful to recognise that without this underclass by socio-economic status who live below the poverty line others would not enjoy the wealth, benefits and class that they do.
For others that may have treated ‘the dole’ similar to austudy to develop our culture in ways in which we can all enjoy and be enriched, ie. journo’s, writers, artists etc., I thank you for living below the poverty line to enrich our culture and our own experiences with your talent.
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I have never met Sandra in person, but I know her to be a very talented, determined and hard-working woman who has come through some really tough times. Though they must hurt deeply, at another level the criticisms of her are completely meaningless, because they are totally baseless and ill-informed.
But there’s a bigger aspect to this debate that bothers me as well. Social security is just that. *Social* *security*. Its about the well-being of our society, our community, overall. Shit happens. Sometimes horrible shit even happens to beautiful, capable, talented people. I’m more than happy for my taxes to go towards helping people get through the shit – what sort of world would it be if they didn’t? Who would be left if every person who made a mistake, or had some bad luck, or even tragedy in their lives was left by the wayside? Sandra’s work is a shining example of why the community should be ready to help individuals through tough times. Its worth it.
I notice there are a few people who change their views after finding out a bit more about Sandra’s experiences – and they say “well, you should have told us that to begin with”. Again, I say, do we really want a world where people have to expose to public scrutiny every piece of their most traumatic times? Can we not give the benefit of the doubt, or are people that afraid that the system will be rorted on grand scale? Because I have quite a bit of confidence in the army of bureaucrats, with their artillery of process, who are there to prevent that.
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Think J.K.Rowling people. This is how Harry Potter was born. Now she is giving back to society big time as most people do after they recover from being down and out. I am sure this woman will be called upon to give charitable motivational talks, cooking lessons etc.
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I thought of JK Rowling also. And there are many others.
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See this just makes me so sad.
What about people on pensions? They too recieve income from Centrelink and cannot work. Literally cannot. For many reasons.
Most of them would be not be disabled if they had the choice, I’m willing to bet.
Mothers who choose to stay at home as opposed to getting a job which will just pay for child care fees as opposed to parenting payment which will mean they can actually dress and feed their child are made to feel bad.
Yet, everyone is lumped in the same basket.
Everyone must be made to feel ashamed because we are living in a country that cares about its citizens as opposed to letting them starve.
Everyone and anyone who recieves any income that does not come from employment or from their carefully collected super must be in the wrong and bludging.
Are we really this petty?
We live in a lucky country and we are very lucky indeed to have the support systems in place that we do.
But I suppose if you never have to use them, or if you have never known someone who needed to then you can stereotype away.
Why not complain about the government spending on “currency” or would that mean there were no actual people to attack.
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I have been on a single parent pension after my divorce. When my daughter started school I studied fulltime at uni and worked a part time job so i know how hard it is.
I think at the time I received $560 pension and $320 FA so a grand total of $880 a fortnight – $550 went on rent straight away. The child support I received monthly covered school and oosh costs and the electricity and the water bills.
I know that there are lifetime unemployed people out there for whatever reason but I do believe the majority of people receiving benefits do so for as short a time as possible to get back on their feet and allow them to improve their lives.
I pay plenty of tax now and by the time I retire will have well and truly paid back the benefits I received but I am forever grateful that our society supported me when I needed it and allowed me to make a better life for myself.
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there is bad apples in every group but most people are like you, in genuine need and absolutely deserving of every cent (if not more) that you receive.
some people need to stand back and remind themselves “there but for the grace of god go i”. a decent country should always support those in need.
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Absolutely. I honestly believe that most people are doing the right thing by our social security system. Yes, there are a few people who take advantage of tax payers dollars, but that also includes politicians who misuse their parliamentary perks and certain high income earners who have the advantage of a very good accountant to find loopholes in the tax system, so they can write-off all kinds of things under “work-related expenses”.
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I believe that the vast majority of people who go on benefits genuinely need them, often to see them through an extremely difficult time in their lives. And I’m happy to pay tax that helps those people.
I have dealt with Centrelink as a “client” and I cannot believe that anyone would voluntarily choose to do that for an extended time. And I say that as someone who worked there briefly (albeit many years ago). The system really sucks.
However, I also have to say that in my brief sojourn there I did indeed come across a few people who unfortunately fitted the stereotype of “dole bludgers”. There aren’t many of them but they exist.
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And that is the thing, BellaB – most (I’d say) who need Centrelink are there for help during a difficult time, and we work and pay tax the rest of the time. Needing Centrelink seems in some people’s minds to cancel out the years of paying tax and working that the majority of us do.
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so true BellaB, i was on centrelink last year on that painful part time worker/jobseekers allowance which was a world of pain. it was such an intense rigmarole to actually get on the damn thing, plus when i finally was it didn’t exactly uplift my spirits lining up for an hour every fortnight, often when the system crashed, to have them scrutinise my earnings, or lack of, for the past two weeks. i was on it for the year and i managed to start a meagre savings collection which i am happy about now!
it’s not really a scenario i think many people enjoy
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Sandra, can I suggest that when your book comes out and you are about to do the launch you have some media training. This is not meant as an attack but you should prepare yourself for smart arse journalists bringing up this stuff again when your book comes out and shows like ACA and TT will no doubt try and do a dole bludger to author type story on you. You really do need someone to give you some tips on being more savvy when dealing with the media.
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Good point made about “middle-class welfare” hand out. Never thought of it that way before…….
Love a day that meakes me think in a new way
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In my opinion Nick Kraegen is a moron. He painted the portrait of someone who is a flake, not a struggling and rising entrepreneur. Though the mean-spirited comments are saddening, they are not surprising given Kraegen’s weak, sieve-like article.
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I’m friends with a very prominent business owner in Australia who employs many others, backed one of our biggest creative pursuits, and gives a huge amount to various charities every year.
This person once told me a story about how they came from humble beginnings and was working as a delivery person. At this time this person had dreams of what they wanted to achieve. This person’s own mother told them they’d be better off going on the dole as it would pay more. This person’s response? They told their mother that by working this hard, rotten paying job they would be a good example to their kids teaching them that although life is hard, you need to contribute always.
THIS is a person I admire.
I do not begrudge Sandra any of her success, but I do not agree with her methods.
If we all were to quit our jobs, go on welfare to follow our dreams there would be no one left to pay the taxes that supplies the welfare.
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I am a single mum with a 2 year old. I went through a hell of a time going through court with her Dad for an AVO and then her custody, and honestly I was not ready to return to work until about 6 months ago. But I didn’t want to settle for just any job, and so I rejected a number of jobs until the one I was offered this week. And I’m happy I waited- I’ll now be earning double the amount of money I would have earned if I had of taken something else in desperation.
I am SO grateful for the parenting payment, but tired of the comments from other people that I should have gone back to work earlier… I am a mother, and if there is ever a good time to be on centrelink benefits, that is one.
I should add that I worked full time and studied full time throughout my 5 year degree (no, I never slept) and didn’t get a cent from centrelink then. So anyone who has a problem with me choosing to be a full-time mum for the first 2 years of my child’s life can get stuffed.
Good on you Sandra.
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Mish – it does get a bit old doesn’t it – well done on surviving for two years on parenting payment – that is not easy.
I hope you are getting help too – sounds like you’ve been through a rough time.
Am glad you have found a job you are happy at.
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Congratulations on the job offer
Best of luck for your first day.
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You know what, if you were a partnered mum with a high earning spouse, people would have been on at you about putting your daughter in daycare before she’s 2. You can’t win, you can just do what’s right for you.
Good luck with the new job!
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You’re so right. If the responses here are anything to go by, either way someone will want to hang you.
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Thanks guys, and you’re so right! One woman who was hassling me about going back to work after my daughter was 1 year old then vilified another woman for going back to work when her baby was 3 months. You can’t please everyone, but I’m happy to do the best for my child and myself under the circumstances.
And for anyone who thinks that people like me are bludging off the system, consider this calculation:
On the parenting payment plus family assistance I get about $1,000 per fortnight.
When I return to work and will be earning under $150K I will receive FBT and a childcare rebate, so I will still be receiving around $750 per fortnight to look after my child. Not a hell of a lot of difference.
So its not only the people who cannot or choose not to work to be stay at home parents… most parents benefit from this fabulous system of ours that enables us to work and keep food on the table!! My brother lives in the US and his single friends with kids have to go back to work within months. I’m so grateful I live here!
For childless people who feel its unfair to pay for the baby bonus etc, consider that when these kids grow up and enter the workforce and pay tax, when you are 80 and running out of your superannuation, your pension will come out of their taxes.
OK I’m going to stop now, LMAO! Thanks for the well wishes everyone xx
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So lovely to see positive comments regarding the single mum side of things. It can be a tough slog sometimes! Trying to juggle looking after your baby/ies with work and/or study after what may have been a difficult breakup… the last thing that anyone would want to hear is “You SHOULD be doing this or that”. A lot of single parents are just trying to do their best until things get a bit easier.
I am massively grateful for both the baby bonus and the FTB. It meant that I was able to study full-time last year and *just* cover rent and food and, occasionally, the luxury of petrol. I am now happy to be back in the work force, and in the position to contribute to helping people in difficult situations.
Being anti-government handouts, in my opinion, is ignorant of the way in which society works. Let’s look at one example: The teachers you had throughout school, who assisted you in developing skills required for employment (not to mention who looked after you on a daily basis so that your parents could go out, earn a living and financially support you while you were living at home)? They may well have received some sort of financial help while studying, while looking for a teaching job, with their children if they had any….
My point is (if one can be gleaned from my rant
) that everyone in a society is connected in some way. Just because you have never been on a government payment, does not mean that you have not benefitted from the help of someone else who may have/or is still on one.
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The sense of sheer entitlement and competitiveness in some of these comments is honestly blowing my mind. Really, with all the shit in the world and in our own country today, THIS is who we direct our fierce criticism toward??
I just can’t believe the sense of ‘but I had to do it this way’, ‘me me me me me me me me me, I’ve had it so tough because of A, B, C etc etc’
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And another thing…..
Anyone who thinks getting the dole is easy go and apply. And then attend all the appointments. And fill out all the paperwork. Every week. And then try living off the pittance.
Good luck with that
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well, I’m sure it’d be easier than working full time!
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No, not easier when you need it for reasons like Danya’s
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I’m sorry but I have no idea who Danya is and I don’t really care… so how the hell am I meant to know what her reasons are? So I’m sticking with ‘going on the dole and attending all the appointments and doing the paperwork’ would be easier than working full time and I’ll add- juggling work and family and getting a work/home life balance!
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No, you don’t know who Danya is, and you don’t know anyone else’s reasons for having to deal with Centrelink either, so don’t assume you know what they have to do when dealing with them. I’d rather be working full time than deal with them, but that hasn’t happened for me. Maybe stop assuming, huh?
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Kris2040- I have no idea why I’m being attacked- I actually didn’t assume that I knew her reasons… that was my exact comment “So how the hell am I meant to know what her reasons are”. I’m still sticking with my opinion-
I BELIEVE that working full time and juggling family life is a hell of alot harder than being on the dole! Obviously I can’t speak from experience, as I have always worked my butt off and have never received any form of benefits… I’m very proud to say that.
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Bugger, I gave a thumbs up to anon and didn’t mean to.
Anon, if you realise that you don’t know the circumstances of the situation/person you are judging, then you shouldn’t BE judging.
Being proud of never having been on benefits is being proud of being lucky.
You can’t (rationally) be proud of being lucky.
You could however, stop being judgmental about things you have no experience of and develop some empathy.
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Anon, if you did understand who Danya was and the reason her family was Dealing with centerlink (and they dramas they have incurred doing so) you would understand why she (and her entire family) are being defended and why this may seem like an attack on you. Danya is very loved and repected on Mamamia because of what she and her family have been through and are still going through. Trust me, there is no way you are going to win an argument against Danya Wellington on this site.
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Donna, I take issue with your reply to anon, people don’t have to know every other contributor on mm to be able to have an opinion on a topic. Anon does not need to know DW past history to be able to contribute HER point of view on a discussion topic. Everyone has the right of giving their OWN opinion on mm. All anon did was give her opinion about how SHE feels about work and centerline, nothing in her post gives you or anyone else the right to attack her for politely giving HER opinion. Comments like yours are why so many people don’t like the cliquey groups that are popping up here.
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Donna give her a break. Your comment is one of the reasons why I am so hesitant to voice my opinion around here. I usually just read all posts and am too nervous to reply in case I get shot down by a MM “regular”.
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While we do welcome everyone’s input, we don’t want this to turn into a post about old vs new, regular vs sometimer, the world vs Centrelink.
So please – let this thread go and back to the topic….
Thanks
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Anon – I support you 100%. This site has become a place were people who feel entitled to have the world do them a favour come to complain. To all of you living off the dole – if you think society owes you money so that you can live the lifestyle that YOU want to live, then I comfortably label you selfish. Those especially with children, then you should be setting an example to your own children to be self sufficient and not reliant on society propping up your life and ambitions.
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Thank you Abel and 50 hour week! Donna- your last comment ” you’re never going to win an argument against denya Wellington on this site” is terrible! Firstly, Im not trying to “win an argument” against anyone! And secondly, what makes the opinion of a mama Mia regular more important than anyone elses? I thought this was a site where adults could share their opinion , discuss a variety of topics and be involved in friendly debates? But it seems to be very similar to a high school playground, where if you go against or challenge what one of the popular girls (regular mms) has said, you are shot down for it.
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Oops. I was actually just trying to explain why anon would feel like she was being attacked. No, not everyone knows each other and I guess the growth of this site has surpassed when “most” (regular) commenters were aware of the bigger personalities on this site, (again not meaning to fit people into groups) I can see why people came to Danya’s aid to defend her. I was trying to explain why without actually revealing her personal story as it was not my place to tell. I did not mean to add to the attack on anon and did not realise how my last sentence sounded because I was talking tounge in cheek.
I apologise to all that I have offended and upset and wish I knew how to comment on this site without biting my own foot.
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“Especially those with children” – wtf? Just because you receive financial aid does not mean that you are not providing a good role model for your children.
Small-mindedly clinging to some outdated, Protestant idea of work ‘ethic’, and disputing the idea of helping those in need, however… yikes.
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HOLD UP EVERYONE
Just chill the fuck out.
Having worked my arse off AND having to deal with Centrelink I can assure all that working your arse off is way preferable. My point is just getting the dole is difficult, and then fulfilling every requirement is exceedingly time consuming and they don’t really give a shit if you have waited an hour in a queue only to then have to dash off and get your kids. That means you missed an appointment and that is stiff shit for you for your next appointment.
For those of you who think you can manage on $420 a fortnight rock on.
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Red balloon- I was never judging anyone! Did you actually go back and read the comments that began this thread? This all started by someone listing the things that contribute to making the dole hard- attending appointments and filling out paperwork etc, and I responded by stating that I believe working full time is harder. How is that being judgmental? Don’t tell me what I should or shouldn’t be proud of! I do feel proud of where I am in my life and the steps I have taken to get me where I want to be. And telling me to develop some empathy? Im not even going to respond to that one!
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I am just asking everyone to chill. The only judgement I like to swing here is the use of “anon”
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Ahhh c’mon!
The complaints about people that use ‘anon’ as a moniker on this site are getting old.
No-one really knows who anyone is so whether you’re called anon or some other name is irrelevant.
As others said above its just another way of feeding the ‘clique mentality’ of this site.
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I wish the mamamia team would stop playing favorites! Reading through these comments, there are comments by ‘regulars’ that are so much worse then what I have said, yet because I’m a ‘no-body’ mine get deleted.
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Is there an anti-troll spray, and where can I buy it?………
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Sure everyone is essentially anonymous, but at least giving yourself a name and using it gives you an identity here and allows others to identify with you, rather than just being a whole pool of anons. How do you think the “more popular” posters became that? Everyone starts off as an anonymous poster and changes that.
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Actually I have met a few fellow “mamas” and you can look me up in the phone book if you wish. The idea that we are all anonymous or not who we say i think is well and truly busted.
So I think we should all move on from that one.
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Anon has every right to be anonymous.
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I always admire anyone who actively pursues their dreams and passions however I admit I have a big problem with them using the welfare system to pay for it.
I know a lot of artists and musicians who work in very average employment while they too chase their dreams and I admire them for this. One of my most fundamental beliefs is that you should work hard for what you want and not expect other people to provide for you if you are able to do so yourself.
Disliking a job and quitting it is completely different to being unable to work, disabled, elderly, sick, legitimately unable to find employment etc. In my opinion.
I can understand some peoples annoyance regarding Sandra using welfare to write a cookbook. It’s not like there are a shortage of budget meals cookbooks out there after all. Google them.
Please note that I am in NO WAY condoning any of the horrid comments left for her on the SMH website and this is not a personal attack on Sandra but obviously a lot of people have conflicting views about this story.
As for Mr Birminghams issues with “middle class welfare”. Those of us who are entitled to these forms of tax benefits and the like actually EARN them through our hard earned HEAVILY TAXED wages. So sorry John but I will continue to receive some of these and will never be made to feel guilty for that. I have worked my guts out for over 15 years, while pursuing my dreams, and like others in my position I deserve these tax breaks.
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Sandra has “worked her guts out” for nearly 30 years.
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Thank you for that brave “anonymous”. Please read back through my comment and tell me exactly where I said that she hasn’t. I spoke about my “guts” in reference to my opinion about Mr Birmingham’s ideas about tax.
It always pays to read carefully I find.
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I don’t understand how you people think you “earn” your benefits because you pay tax. Everyone who earns over a certain amount pays tax, if there was less middle class welfare, we could all pay less tax, & be better off.
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Everyone who earns money (legitimately) pays tax. Therefore in my opinion everyone who pays tax deserves “tax breaks” or “welfare”, or whatever else you want to call it. It also makes sense that the tax breaks that you receive are directly related to your contribution to said tax.
I don’t at all believe that “middle class” people earn their benefits anymore than anyone else but I certainly do believe that you should benefit from your contribution to the economy in a fair way.
Otherwise where is the incentive to try to earn money and pay for your own life?
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I want my tax break then. I didn’t have children, but I’m paying for other people to have them. I don’t mind paying for schools, but I do object to paying baby bonus to people who don’t need it. I bought my first house, with my own money, & received nothing from the government for doing it. The first home owners grant has probably pushed up house prices more than any other factor.
I’m now currently paying tax on a gross income of $20873. There are people on three times that amount who pay nett tax of 0, after receiving all their family tax allowances etc. Yes I know children cost money, but people should consider that before they have them. If you have two cars, & go away on holidays, then you shouldn’t be taking money from people who can’t afford to catch a bus to town.
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Now see we feel the same way about a lot of things.
I too don’t mind paying tax for schools, roads, infrastructure, disabilities, legitimate welfare etc but I object to paying it so that people can quit their employment and pursue their dreams minus the financial burden (excluding those studying).
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Hi Rene,
Thank you for raising the concerns many have expressed this week (often in far nastier and at times, directly threatening ways) about this issue.
During the week, one person posted about this issue on my blog and, in part because it was so politely expressed, I provided some background information.
Bearing in mind that the original interview for Good Living magazine was about Food, it simply wasn’t an issue that was addressed during the interview. And neither should it have been.
That said, please go to the following link and scroll down to a post by ‘Eva’ and you will see a lengthy reply.
http://120dollarsfoodchallenge.com/about
Please bear in mind as you read it, that posting it, however deeply buried in the comments of a blog though it was, it still feels akin to disrobing in public. I sincerely hope none of the readers here ever have to subject themselves to such scrutiny.
A very rough calculation based on the amount of Centrelink benefits I have received since February 2010 divided by the number of tax payers (about 10 million) in Australia means that each person has contributed less than 0.1 of one cent to my income.
Thank you.
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Sorry Sandra
There is no room left to reply to your comment so I will have to do it here.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment, I really appreciate it. It has certainly filled in quite a few holes in this story and has left me wondering a number of things:
1. If this article on Mamamia was designed to defend you why was it posted with such an inflammatory title and so few facts about you and your situation? Surely if you are such a valued contributor to this site some of the facts that you revealed to Eva could have been included? I for one would have certainly had a different opinion about your situation. The personal tragedy and loss that you experienced in that situation is exactly what I think that the welfare system should be used to cover. No one could be expected to work when dealing with something like that.
2. Why wasn’t it specified in this article that you only ever received two $60 vouchers from the Salvos? Without implicitly stating that it makes it seem like you lived off them.
3. Why wasn’t the comment regarding Facebook clarified? In the article by the SMH it did make you sound like you quit your job and simply decided to float around at home surfing the net.
I know that you said that it was hard for you to “disrobe” in public and explain your situation but I truly think that explaining the awful sequence of events that you have had to live through up to this point would have been a lot better than people, like me, assuming that you are a “dole bludger”.
As a commentor on this website I can only comment on the facts that I am presented with and in this case there were a LOT of facts that were left out!
I apologise Sandra if my previous comment offended you. Although in light of the rest of the story that you have shared with me now it doesn’t even apply to your situation!
It actually makes me feel quite annoyed that I bothered to comment when what was published was so lacking in important information.
PS I do realise of course that you had no control over this piece Sandra so the questions are certainly not meant as any sort of attack on you.
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Rene, reading this exchange is illuminating in so many ways. Initially you commented – making some rather tough judgment calls – not so much on the information you were provided with but rather on YOUR interpretation of that information. You put 2 and 5 together and came up with 12 and you were completely certain that this was the right answer. In effect, you did exactly what those nasty, fearful, sad and angry bottom feeders did this week on SMH/Age on line. You took the bare bones of a story and you filled in the bits to suit your view of the world.
To your great credit, when presented with more than a bare bones story – and indeed, the actual source of the story – you felt uncomfortable being shown to have judged in haste. But then you sought to defend yourself by questioning why all the relevant information wasn’t provided in the first place.
That is the rub. If we all took a moment to consider that maybe what we have read/heard/watched wasn’t necessarily the FULL story, then maybe we would not rush to judgment. Maybe we would simply say, ‘well I wonder what happened to her?’ and leave it at that. Or, we might even independently seek more information!
I’ve said on here many times before that I cannot fathom the way that people rush to judge others based on very basic amounts of information. At the most if I have an opinion, it will be a highly qualified, equivocal one because I SIMPLY CANNOT KNOW. Only when the facts are clear and undisputed and reported in ways that appear to be (relatively) free of bias, am I willing to do more than simply wonder about what the real story is/was.
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Beautifully put, PixieM. The point I was trying to make in my comment that is apparently an “attack”.
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This is a website that specifically asks for feedback and comments relating to the information presented upon it. When I comment on a story presented on Mamamia I am commenting on the information presented here. I do not read an article or item, then go away and research it and then comment. I simply comment on what I have read here.
I stand by all of what I wrote in my intitial comment. I did not make up any of it and simply commented on what I read and how I interpreted it. That is the definition of an opinion I do believe and that is what we are encouraged to have on this site. Whether it makes everyone happy or not is not my concern.
However since Sandra filled in the substantial holes I have realised that it doesn’t really seem to apply to her.
You can certainly feel free to only comment on topics that you know absolutely every fact about Pixie, in your opinion of course, if that is indeed even possible, and I will continue to simply comment on what is presented here.
To compare my comment to those on the SMH website is outrageous but of course that is only my opinion.
I have exhausted all that I have to say on this topic now but feel free to reply if you need to.
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Rene, I believe this is also known as an ‘uninformed’ opinion. And those types of opinions are usually best kept to oneself. Judging others should be done very carefully and thankfully what we teach kids in school these days (yes I’m a teacher) is to never, ever, ever rely soley on one source of information, particularly those on the net or in the news. Always go back to the source; why is this being posted to begin with? How is the source trying to influence you as the consumer of the information? Where do their interests lie? What kinds of affiliations do they have (particulalry in Australia with the media monopoly). Oh, and I always tell my students – never, ever watch sensationalist shows like ACA and TT. And to have manners and be polite. And never assume you know all of the facts. I hope my public school students are better prepared for the world of online blogs and sensationalist media and to be calm and considered in the face of gross hyperbole……
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There were comments posted by a few of us recollecting what happened when Sandra left her job too, which were conveniently ignored as well.
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Hey hey! This attack on Rene is completely unfair. She’s been polite and presented her opinion.
The ‘mean girl’ mentality displayed by some of the ‘regulars’ on here is embarrassing and juvenile.
I defended MamaMia the other day at work when neanderthal colleagues labeled it a site for bitter and self absorbed women, but comments thread like this truly make me want to think otherwise.
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I don’t think anyone has attacked Rene, I thiink more than anything they’ve tried to defend others against her…..
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We were packing the kids up the other day after a day at the beach. A group of surfers walked by and said ‘make sure you work hard for us tomorrow..’ And laughed. So I replied, ‘Nah I just spit out kids, baby bonus pays heaps more than the dole.’ I just couldnt help myself. Husband was mortified!! For the record we both work and don’t receive welfare. Happy however to pay for those that need it.
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I have no beef with artists being on the dole. Our industry is so small, it cannot support everyone all the time. It’s hard to crack into music and writing. Still, I’d prefer it if people had a basic job to support themselves while they pursued their passion. I realise that this is not always possible.
For myself, I could never walk out of a job, even a crappy one, if I had children to care for. In her shoes, I would have waited a couple of years until the kids were on their way. Maybe I’m old fashioned.
I have to admit it rankles when I give up time with my kids to give them a better life and get higher up the food chain, when someone can work a basic job and end up with roughly the same net money as me when you include the govt supplements. That does feel very unfair. I know I’ll be better in the long term, but where is the incentive for the more short sighted?
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Who was that Harry potter author? She was on the dole when she wrote that. Hope Sandra is just as successful. Go Girl. I’ll buy it for sure!
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Exactly and now J.K Rowling, the wealthiest woman in Britain lives there and pays her taxes, she refuses to be a tax exile (unlike many in the Tory party) That’s what happens when people are supported in order to pursue their life’s work, no matter where that support comes from.
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Firstly, I would like to say a big congratulations to Sandra. People like her deserve the welfare payments. As do the injured, disabled, uni students ect, ect. However, living in a costal town with excellent surf, I know of many people who are quite capable of earning their own living but instead go out surfing everyday, whilst recieving unemployment benefits. Wouldn’t it be nice to go surfing (or whatever it is you love to do) everyday and get payed to do so? I wouldn’t mind it myself. Anyway, these kinds of people piss off a tad. Thats all.
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Just in case you didn’t know, the ‘dole’ – or Newstart Allowance as it is now called – is only $300 a fortnight for a single person. An atrocious amount if you need to pay rent and feed yourself.
It also comes with many terms and conditions such as reporting, filling out paperwork and attending compulsory training courses. It’s not like it was in the early 1980s when you actually could surf all day and wait for the dole cheque that came regularly in the mail.
So the surfers you see are probably having to do all of the above – and maybe they even have part time jobs? Who knows?
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I’m mystified as to how people live so luxuriously long term on Newstart as so many people seem to “know”. I end up with about $40-$50 a fortnight for everything (including food) after rent and loan repayments. I understand that the payment doesn’t want to be so high as to discourage people from looking for work, but when the minimum wage is $570ish a week and I get that a fortnight, I am truly mystified and would dearly love to know what I am doing wrong.
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I am still waiting to meet these people who live a life of ease on the dole. I sure as shit have never met any
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I admire Sandra for having the guts to throw in her job!
I often fantasise about me and my husband quitting our jobs and living off Centrelink so we can study full time and bum around a bit.
No more work stress (except than financial stress of course), more quality time with each other and friends, and the opportunity to chase our dreams.
Sadly I’m not as gutsy as Sandra and too trapped by material stuff brought by the dollar and meeting my mortgage.
Good luck to her!
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And people say the MM community has gone to Hell! Look at this. I don’t know Sandra personally/don’t think I’ve ever had any form of direct connection with her here, but I’ve seen quite a few of her posts AND checked out her blog over the last little while…and I formed the impression of her being bloody amazing. When I saw the comments on SMH, I was flabbergasted. But when I saw the comments here, I was so happy to see so much support for Sandra – and I think this is a real reflection of our wonderful little community here at MM – the fact that we AREN’T like the comments section of SMH. …well, not USUALLY =P
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This saga (and the others like it) says more about the inferior quality of our media, and the narrowmindedness it has generated, than anything.
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I am feeling somewhat apoplectic with rage at the moment.
Sandra rocks. I know, I’ve met her. We had coffee and she consoled me over shitty bullshit written about me on the Internet. Now I guess I need to repay the favor.
And JB? You rock too. Although I have an awful feeling I threw up on your shoes once…..
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Oh Danya, the tales you could tell! I am intrigued about the shoe throw-up incident!
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I was on the dole/Newstart for about 6 months and it was seriously the worst 6 months of my life. You feel shit enough about yourself because youre unemployed without having to deal with the Centrelink red tape and constant misinformation.
In regards to the article…the initial article painted Sandra in quite an unforgiving light.
I admit I also wondered about what sort of situation let you collection Centrelink benefits after only 2 weeks of unemployment? When I got Newstart I had to wait for some time because I had a reasonable amount of savings. Is it different if you have kids?
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Havings kids she would have been on Parenting Payment, not Newstart, so there is no waiting period. Good on her I say!!!!
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Parenting payment single has conditions if your child is over the age of seven – you have be working, training or studying at least 15 hours a week to qualify.
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I am a single mum on the dole. I quit my demeaning, boring, horrible, low paying job so I could finish my degree. So in a few years time I will be able to properly support my daughter financially instead of just making ends meet.
I felt like the biggest loser in the world walking into the centrelink office. But i know i am lucky that there is a welfare system in place that will support me when I need it.
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You’re not a loser.
You’re wonderful.
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Well, it’s not really the dole if your studying! I felt shit to…walking into the centerlink office. I was studying to be a nurse! haha
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you are giving you daughter an amazing gift. i watched my mum work hard to finish her degrees and then get her first job. it has shaped who i am.
good luck
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Thankyou for the support.
I know I am studying but I still hate the idea of not supporting myself. (this is the first time I have not work since I was 14)
I guess I felt like a loser because I dont think what I am doing is fair (even though entirely within my rights). Other people are paying for me to better my lifestyle. I made the choices that got me into the position I am in, yet others have to pay to dig me out of my hole.
Also I could study part time and work full time instead of going on the pension. However I dont want to/have to, selfishly I would like to spend the extra time with my daughter instead.
I guess what I am trying to say is whilst I feel lucky to be able to do the above. I do understand why people get disgruntled with system.
oh and for those who dont know, per fortnight I receive
*615 – penison
*108 – Family Tax Benifit Part A
*135 – Family Tax benifit Part B
858 in total a fornight or 429 a week.
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Good luck with your study!
I have been on a single parent pension after my divorce. When my daughter started school I studied fulltime at uni and worked a part time job so i know how hard it is.
I think at the time I received $560 pension and $320 FA so a grand total of $880 a fortnight – $550 went on rent straight away. The child support I received monthly covered school and oosh costs and the electricity and the water bills.
I know that there are lifetime unemployed people out there for whatever reason but I do believe the majority of people receiving benefits do so for as short a time as possible to get back on their feet and allow them to improve their lives.
I pay plenty of tax now and by the time I retire will have well and truly paid back the benefits I received but I am forever grateful that our society supported me when I needed it and allowed me to make a better life for myself.
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Thanks for the breakdown of money – I was wondering what I’d be receiving.
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I hope yo get a job when you are finished! I’m in a similar situation to you and so went back to do my grad dip in teaching (6.0 distinction average). I now have 3 degrees – psychology, history and teaching (the first two completed as seperate undergrads while working full time before I had my son). Now, I can’t get a job! 3 degrees, 10 years work in the private sector at an executive level and QLD Ed. haven’t offered me a position. Sigh. Teacher shortage, what teacher shortage?!!!! Good luck to you though, I keep telling myself it will be worth it in the long run!
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I’m going to be in the same boat – bub is coming end of March, so I am hopefully going to be able to hit uni and get a degree. I was originally planning on primary teacher, but after the crap I’ve been through I’m also now quite interested in Social Work type stuff. Either way I’ll be helping people and bashing my head against a brick wall knowing some people’s attitudes!
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Didn’t know you were pregnant. Congratulations
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Thanks! Yep, 31 weeks. All good but the heat and lowish blood pressure aren’t the best of mixes. At least that is all I have to worry about at the moment though!
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Was just reminiscing about someone about good times had in a third world country. The people there, who have nothing, are so happy to share with a stranger.
And here, where we have everything… People don’t even want to give a little. It got me all cranky about this all over again!
“civilised”, “industrialised”, “progressive”, “first world”… But certainly not “humane”.
When did these people lose their souls?
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Yes, YES, Y.E.S!!!!!
The bunch of vitriolic wankers who troll news sites to post scathing comments like, and I quote “Sigh to her! She can’t afford to eat, but can afford sit on facebook posting her recipes to a more then likely non existant audience!
Stop making excuses for yourself to continue to bludge from society!” are the ones who need to get a frigging life!!!
This woman is a MOTHER! Mother is shitty job=shitty mother!!! Anyway…. not being a mother myself I probably shouldn’t comment… but..
It’s no secret here that I work for Centrelink.. and you know what… The people who piss me off the most in my job are the parents on (actual example from today) combined $285k p.a who whinge that they can’t get Child Care Benefit!!!! It’s the single mothers (again, today) on $150k with two children who bitch that they’re not eligible for FTB…. and I quote again “What help is there for us struggling single mothers?”
Majority of parents on income support payments actually DO the right thing. They understand that they’re better off working… and once this is explained to them in simple terms, they are keen to get work.
In Sandra’s case, she has her sights set on never being on “the dole” again. She has a passion that she wants to explore… to feed her children… to be happy… to repay that money that probably made her feel like shit for receiving.
Sure, we “tax payers” are “supporting” “these people”, but there are pots of gold at the end of the rainbow and Sandra Reynolds and John Birmingham are perfect examples!!
Anyway… you know me… don’t start me or I may never stop to edit, let alone know whether I’m making sense or not!!!!
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(What did I say about editing???) Mother IN shitty job=Shitty Mother!!!
Mothering is NOT as shitty job!!!!
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I dunno, been to my place at nappy-change time recently?
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Mmm, have to disagree on one of your points here BoPeep! I was one of those single mothers who whilst did not earn k150, I did earn a very good income… But, as I was not getting ANY child support from the father of my children (who earns over k100 pa)and had to pay rent, food, bills, expenses of going to work and a $710 pw childcare bill, I can tell you that I did struggle and most times was deeply upset and hurt by the condencending attitude that you showed here today.
You forget that whilst your gross income may be considered high, you pay a substantial amount in tax, so what you bring home is not that great.
Now, whilst I am agreeing wholeheartedly that the attack on Sandra was unjustified and quite disturbing and I am not one of those who says that I don’t like my tax money to go to what some people consider ‘bludgers’, I don’t agree with your generalisation and am quite disturbed that someone in a position like yours where you work with people at their lowest ebb no matter what their circumstances are showes such a judgemental and biased opinion and outlook.
And this is coming from a person working in a similar position and industry.
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OssieLeo, on rereading my post I can see how you viewed it as condescending, and I apologise. The woman I was specifically referring to had a very big rant, her two children used 1 hr each of before/after school care a day. My post did indicate a “Classist” attitude; I’m sorry.
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Please don’t think that I’d ever lump any two, let alone a specific “Class” in any one basket. My job has indeed smashed a shitload of prejudices and preconceptions I had about “Centrelink Customers”. I guess that’s what I wanted to get across in my post… It’s pretty hard to just say everyone on the “dole” is a bludger, similarly, not everyone receiving “middle-class welfare” is overly accepting of their lot.
In summary, I am sorry if anyone took offence at my post, I take my job very seriously and if that means staying on the phone to someone at their lowest ebb rather than consider my stat’s and possible pay rise, then that’s what I’m going to do.
Please don’t not invite me to the next dinner party, I hear it will indeed be a “Happy Days” theme and I really did want to go as The Fonz
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Why was everyone so happy to benefit from the knowledge she couldn’t have found or shared if she hadn’t gone been unemployed? People out there would be saving a lot more than the proportion of their tax that goes to Sandra and probably Centrelink, full stop, if they followed her.
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I would love to be able to feed my family for $120 a fortnight, that would suit my budget perfectly! So thank-you Mia for bringing this article and blog to my attention, tonight I will be perusing Sandra’s blog for ideas, as it happens to be meal plan time in my house! Good for you Sandra, and good luck with your book. I have no doubt it will be a huge success
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ok. I really must read Falafel…how well does he write? My. God.
Oh and couldn’t agree more.
This is welfare at it’s finest.
More power to you Sandra. Hope it’s a huge success.
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Johns books are fantastic. Google him, but yes, start with Felafel, if you were ever a uni student in shared housing you will relate and then cringe lol
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Falafel is a great book. Read it when at Uni, loved it. Must get John’s other books!
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sandra. I’ve loved your recipes. I’ll buy your book. And you know what? Screw them all.
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Agreed – good on you, Sandra!
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How incredibly well said…oops, written….looks like all that public tit paid off! I so enjoyed this article! Hurrah for John and Sandra
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hear hear John!. Totally agree.
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So nice to read your comments zelicat! I agree, thanks john.
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The online comments sections of any of our major newspapers (and, I’ll hazard a guess, most of our local ones) are weird and scary places to be. I read some of the comments after this article in the SMH online and had to have a cup of tea and a good lie down to recover.
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I agree! It’s scary stuff on those comments pages…generally tends towards the frighteningly misogynistic,too.
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fantastic article, it totally sums up how i feel about people’s attitudes to those receiving government assistance. john, can you go over to the flood levy post and write a few replies to some of the nasty comments some person on a six figure salary will pay $5 a week to re-build queensland?
good on you sandra! i love what you have done and refer to your blog often when i need some inspiration. your recipes never fail! good luck with the writing, can’t wait to buy your book!
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Love JB! He’s funny, insightful and not full of himself. He knows what it’s like to do it tough and he knows what it’s like to be honest. Something a lot of people have trouble with these days. Shame that.
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Hi Everyone,
First of all a sincere thank you for your wonderful thoughts and messages, both here, in online forums and to me via email, tweets and phonecalls. I have been overwhelmed by the love and encouragement I have received, especially over the last 24 hours, thanks in no small part to the magnificent Mr Birmingham.
I have deliberately chosen not to comment on the events of the last week, or the press articles themselves as I really don’t want to add fuel to the fire, so to speak. I will not comment further today in this forum, but I did want you all to know that your thoughts are much appreciated.
And Mia – thank you for encouraging debate in an objective, inclusive and intelligent way. Never have I loved the Dinner Party rules and the spirit of the awesome MM Community more than now!
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I couldn’t believe the vitriol you were getting, why should you stay in a casual job that demeans you on a personal level? Not only are they jealous, they’re full of shit. I thought I was reading the Herald-Scum in Melbourne, not The Age. Good on you for doing something and sharing that information. Best wishes.
As if centrestink just hand over the money, there is a lot of loopholes for a measly sum of moeny.
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I quit a horrible, boring, mindless, demeaning job (actually fell asleep at my desk one day – knew then it was time to leave!)and went on Centrelink benefits to study – have now finished my degree and working as a teacher – earning five times the amount I would have in that job.
Good on you Sandra, I support you one hundred percent!
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I read the link you provided in your post above about the response to Eva here:
http://120dollarsfoodchallenge.com/about/
And I wish that anyone who is slinging mud at you would actually read it before doing so.
I’m sorry to hear of your struggles, but what a woman to rise above them and do something positive while you look for work that is not only beneficial for your healing process, but also for your health, your children’s health, and contributing something to society.
Your blog (and book when it is finished) will help thousands of people struggling to make ends meet. Well done and keep going!
p.s: I’m making the tuna pasta bake for dinner
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Good on Sandra, we need more women like her! But, saying that, I am a working single mother who is so tired of having other single mothers tell me that I am better off financially not working and enjoying my time at home! Financially, after paying childcare whilst I work, petrol, travel expenses and dry cleaning the clothes I have to wear for work I am about $50 better off than them. Am I tempted to quit work? NO, I love working and feel that it makes me a better parent by having interests outside the home.
However, whilst trying to concentrate on the positives in life I still get upset about it especially when I am so tired of doing it all by myself. I think the system will be much better is there was more encouragement for single mothers to go and work and children will benefit from seeing their mothers doing something to help themselves.
I actually heard a single mother of 4 saying that she is thinking about having another baby as her eldest is getting older now and the support for him will stop soon…
But I would like to believe that this is the exception to the rule!
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John Birmingham – I LOVE you. I love this article. Thank you for writing it, like a big breath of fresh air, honesty and compassion. Good on ya xxxx And good on ya Cynthia Reynolds. I’m going to read her blog and buy her book.
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Wow, great article by John Birmingham. I have to admit I didn’t know about the mean comments levelled against Sandra Reynolds – I only saw the headlines and thought ‘fantastic woman!’
I’m glad she was on the dole when she couldn’t feed her kids. That’s what it’s there for (goodness knows I got my share as a student). I get that people are upset that she wants to stay on the dole until she can make money as a blogger/author, but it’s far more viable a career for her than the McJob she had before so I’m totally with her on that score. And as JB says, I’m sure she’ll end up paying far more into the ATO coffers than she took out.
Keep going Sandra and well done!
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I am coming out – my name is Kat and I spent over 4 years on the dole. Well, technically Newstart, since that is what they call it now days. Over 4 years during which I was suffering from a chronic illness, studying part time and working casually. On the dole? Yes. Bludger? I think not. I loath the judgement in the community of people on centrelink benefits – people have no idea what the nuances of the situation are. And the job hunt requirement is treated as much like a game to beckon by centrelink as it is by recipients – at one stage I was half an hour per fortnight short of the arbitrary threshold put in place by centrelink, so was told I had to look for work!
I am fortunate to have family support because I have no idea how people live on benefits, especially when you consider the amount of money deducted if you actually have other earnings, which is a disincentive to work if I ever saw one.
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Hi, Kat.
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I think people are just so mean spirited sometimes. And hiding behind a computer makes us all feel bigger and tougher than others. These comments are pretty awful and I think Sandra is incredibly brave to come out fighting with a book no less, when she has had the hard and lean times. She could be curled up in a corner on the dole forever – but no! She wrote and photographed on her blog for years (no monetary gain) All her knowlege and recipes are on there for free for anyone to access.
The media is a tricky beast to tame. My husband was photographed and interviewed a few years ago. It was in the thick of the drought and he was droving when a rural newspaper took a picture and then they rang back for some particulars and quotes. We told them they could not print how many acres we owned, anything to do with talking about how hard the drought was and the like.
You get misquoted once and then you have to deal with fallout for years. Farmers and neighbours have long memories. We try to say as little as possible.
I think that if the government had any brains running Centrelink they would be handing out Sandra’s book in a Newstart info pack. Wouldn’t it be great for people to eat healthy, yet cheap food. Which will in turn help our health services cope without preventable illnesses clogging the system. Schools would be better with children who are eating properly, and not disruptive through better eating habits. I have a vision for LPC to become the next Jamie Oliver of food and government!
Forget Ministry of Food. This will be Food for Centrelink survivors.
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“I do hope to keep going but at the same time I have to be careful with Centrelink, I have to keep looking for jobs,” she says. “I’d like to work until I can do this full time. I kind of like being a food writer.”
I think this quote angered people so much because she made it sound like she was just ‘ticking the boxes’ or paying lip service to the Newstart system in order to continue writing with no real intention of pursuing employment.
Perhaps she just chose her words poorly, but I see how that quote can be taken as such.
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Couldn’t agree more. I think what she did is wonderful. you go girl.
This line sums it up:
” It helps people until they can help themselves. It didn’t fail in the Reynolds case. It wasn’t rorted. It did exactly what it was supposed to do”
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I cant wait to buy a copy of the book, I spend way too much on food!
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