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no idea what goes on down there 380x224 I have no idea what goes on down there. Do you?

 

 

 

I don’t know whether it’s a case of my mildly conservative up-bringing, my very conservative schooling or my tendency to Google-diagnose, but I have no idea what goes on ‘down there’.

As a 20-year-old, educated student whose friends are finishing university and taking on the big scary world, I am noticing a trend of cluelessness when faced with a womanly medical problem.

(Warning, the rest of this post may cause men to feel awkward.)

Late cycles, itches, pains, pills – all issues many women face in their lives.

But when something untoward occurs in this area, a young woman’s first reaction is to panic, Google it, then call all of her friends to convince her she couldn’t possibly have what Google told her she has.

I can’t honestly say a month has passed in the last couple of years where a friend hasn’t joked about, but secretly lost sleep over, the possibility of being pregnant.

Of course, they never are, because we are just misreading signs our bodies are giving us.

This constant state of pregnancy paranoia can consume an entire day, or week, waiting for that bittersweet red flag to wave… and when it does, life continues as normal. Phew.

But what worries me is how little we understand our own bodies, and the quirks, changes and pains we are bound to get.

At the risk of sounding foolish, I only just a few weeks ago understood how the pill actually works.

It took an accidental stumble upon an episode of Dr Oz while I was at work at 5am to find out why women get urinary tract infections (UTIs) a lot.

And I still haven’t fully grasped the concept of what happens when, and why, in a menstrual cycle.

I never got a lesson. My primary school had sex education in year 5, but I left in year 3. My science teacher in year 9 had the thankless task of teaching a class of giggling girls the anatomy of the reproductive organs. And I vaguely remember a family planning van that visited in year 11, and there was a Styrofoam contraption and a condom… and then I draw a blank.

But I do know I was never told the common things that should or could happen to my private parts.

So, I did what any inquisitive, paranoid, internet savvy person would do. I Googled it.

Google-diagnosing is like running into a crowded bar and yelling, “DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY MY OVARIES HURT IN WEEK 2 OF MY MENSTRUAL CYCLE?” and taking the advice of the drunken old man in the corner.

The internet is crawling with forums of panicked symptom-sufferers asking questions, fearing the worst.

But after a conversation with a complete random, with no medical background, we sign off feeling relieved that someone else shares our symptoms and is still alive to give ‘advice’.

On the other hand, a quick search of your period pain symptoms can lead to you believing you have the worst of diseases, when in fact you probably don’t.

If I knew, if we knew, how everything works, why it does what it does and when, perhaps there would be less panicked trips to the doctor or late night sweats over search results.

This post is a bit of a hit and miss – here I am telling you that women don’t know enough about their sexual health, and you could be sitting there shaking your head and raising one eyebrow.

Here’s hoping it’s not just me and my friends.

If it is… does anyone have a Women’s Health book I can borrow?

Isobel is an un-medicated news junkie, serial intern and social media fiend. She has a ‘real job’ in television production on the weekends. She tweets  at @isobelroe, blogs at andthisiswhywecanthavenicethings.blogspot.com.au and unleashes inner anguish in the Water-polo pool on Sundays.

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145 Comments so far

  1. Kayla

    I can completely relate and I think there’s three factors at play –

    1) Sex ed for a lot of us (well, my school anyway) was along the lines of “Um, here are some tampons… so… yeah good luck with that”.
    2) If you have weird stuff going on, that can be really scary. At 24 I only just found out that the really horrible, weird tugging pain I get in the middle of my cycle is in fact, normal and it means I’m ovulating. Good to know.
    I also found out that the reason my cycle is 46 days long is because I’m progesterone deficient and have an abnormally long ‘luteal phase’. Also good to know!
    3) Anyone else been treated really bad by Doctors? I had a female doctor yell at me and tell me to ‘stop being silly’ when I asked if I could get pregnant because I had a tummy bug while on the pill. I was only referring to what the instruction leaflet said (and common sense!). Another female doctor jabbed me so hard with her swab during an examination (when I wasn’t ready. You could say she jumped me) that she actually gouged me and I went into shock.

    So thanks to Google and good research, I think I’ve got it figured out now! Knowing about your hormones is very valuable – now knowing exactly how much I’m being influenced by progesterone, oestrogen etc. at any point in my cycle is very empowering.

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  2. Jamie

    Great short book by local newcastle author SJ Tierney ‘The Vagina Buffet’ – Tales of A Brazillian Waxer. HIlarious read and all round and good general educational treatise on what ‘goes on down there’.

    A great read for men and women of all ages that help normalise discusion about an oft taboo subject. Great blog as well http://www.vaginabuffet.com/

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  3. Grace.

    As a 15 year old girl who’s had endless problems with my cycles (ending up in hospital once a month to have an IV hooked up, because periods mess me up) I can’t say I’ve ever had that sense of panic, thankfully. My mums very open about it all, and her history with Endometriosis and PCOS, so I know it’s a possibility for me, and I understand how and why it happens. I’ve discussed it all with my doctors and am getting the right treatment, I avoid google and go straight to the doctors office.

    I only wish other girls could have the amount of understanding about their own bodies that I seem to have.

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  4. kkellaway

    I’m concerned.
    And no it’s not for Isobel’s lack of sex-ed in high school, it’s for all the other commenters lack of a sense of humour. Why is there such a minority finding the humour in this article?

    Yes, your sacred lady parts are to be taken seriously. But honestly? Lighten up a little.
    Fab article iroe, made me giggle. :)

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  5. iroe

    Just as a side note (to my own post)… great choice of stock photo Mamamia.

    I actually have those undies. Ha.

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  6. drlandsnark

    I haven’t read through all the comments and don’t know if anyone else has suggested this, but I found the book “Woman: An Intimate Geography” by Natalie Angier to be just riveting. She devotes at least a chapter each to the egg, ovaries, uterus, menstrual cycle, breasts, X chromosome, clitoris, and each of several hormones. It’s fascinating even if you don’t follow everything (it is written for a mass audience, but you will get more out of it the more science you know.) Highly, highly recommended for everyone who owns a female body, and cheaply available on the used book market.

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  7. Silverdragon

    When I first read the article, I thought it all sounded a bit OTT, especially the panicking about being pregnant each month bit (if you’re on the pill and taking it properly, surely that’s taken care of?). Then I thought about it a bit and realised that, unless you have *unusually* comprehensive health ed at school, you will only know the basics.

    I thought I was quite well informed and knew how my body worked “down there” (i.e. my reproductive system) and I did know the basics, but like other commenters, it wasn’t until I wanted to have kids and faced the difficulties of infertility, miscarriage and IVF that I *really* learned the intimate details of exactly how everything works.

    So, if you’re interested, either pick up one of the books recommended below, or go searching for information about fertility from a reliable source. It’s amazing how much you can learn about your cycles this way. :)

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  8. Jil

    Thanks for your article. I can really empathise with you! I’m 39 years old, but a few years ago I was having a problem with heavy, painful periods so I had to get an abdominal ultrasound and was referred to a gynaecologist for follow up. He showed me the actual ultrasound pictures… and they were AMAZING. Not just interesting, they were like a miracle! There was my uterus, there were my ovaries, and there was a follicle. It was all so amazing to see what is automatically going on inside me, and it happens month after month!

    It made me think that I really don’t know as much about all that as I should, maybe I missed something at school (I was a painfully shy kid) so I asked him a lot of questions. I felt really silly because I thought that I should have known abouit all that, but it was so worth it. Maybe if I’d had children I would have been more familiar with everything, but I go get pap smears done when they’re due and that’s all I’ve ever needed to do in that area.

    I think one of the coolest things about being an adult is being able to learn about things that interest you whenever you feel like it. I love learning new things and even though I was scared to go to the gynaecologist it was a great learning experience, so now, if I think to myself ‘how does that work?’ I go reasearch it!

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  9. Lucindainthesky

    Even though I think I was probably lucky to have specific sex and relationship education every year at school from about year 6, I actually think a lot of what i learned came from reading and talking to my girlfriends. It came from having books about the human body from the time I was little – I can still remember the page in “All About Us” that had pictures of boy and girl human bodies changing as they got older when I was about 6 or 7.

    Isobel… didn’t you and your friends ever read Dolly Doctor and then confess that you were secretly wondering those things too? Did you not ever read books like the Diary of Anne Frank, God it’s me, Margaret, Degrassi Junior High? I know you wouldn’t necessarily learn about the intricasies of human anatomy from them, but reading stories about teenagehood certainly can promote a healthy curiosity about it.

    I guess, I am just amazed that it appears you were never curious to find out this stuff before now. The lack of sex education you had at school is a pity, but I just wonder how curiosity seems to have escaped you for so long.

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    • iroe

      Hey, curiosity was never my problem – I’m very curious. But as I found everything out it left me wondering why I didn’t get taught at school like I know many people do.

      I’ve got a few comments wondering why I didn’t read Dolly – and to be honest I don’t know why I didn’t. Probably because it was never bought for me, and I didn’t have any money at age 12.

      I understood anatomy, but I never learnt about periods, common women’s health problems etc. Thanks for your comment :)

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  10. pink pad

    iPhone users- pink pad app taught me so much about my own body. I highly recommend. it tracks your cycle and your moods etc

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  11. Rhi

    A really nice article, Isobel! I certainly don’t think you’re alone in your self-confessed cluelessness!
    I guess I was/am quite lucky (at school I wasn’t so sure!) but my Mum was my Health Ed teacher at school… She’s always been amazingly open and (possibly too!) frank about everything body-related. Her top points: 1) Always take a squat over a mirror and take a look at yourself – it’s not right that a boy knows your bits more intimately than you do and 2) Always be pro-active in looking after your own sexual health – whether than be contraceptives, STI checks, etc.
    Shall I tell you the most embarrassing story from having my Mum as my Health teacher? We were at a party and she introduced herself to some of my uni friends by saying, ‘I’m her Mum, that’s her fiancé – I taught him everything he needed to know about sex…’ (as she’s also taught him two years before me!) and then followed it up with, ‘Just the theory, she taught him the practical lessons!’ Cringe!!! :) I love my Mum!!!

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    • Anonymous

      I love your mum too :)

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  12. Cassandra P

    As a 24 year old woman I couldn’t relate to this article at all. I think you and your friends are definitely in the minority, at least judging by my immediate cohort.

    “Dolly” and later “Cleo” magazines were the great sexual educators of my formative years. Sex education at school was a mix of useless, outdated and/or incomplete information, and information I already knew from reading the above magazines.

    I’ve had thrush a few times. The first time I was fairly certain it was thrush based on what I’d read in “Dolly” and also I think my mum suggested it. Through paying attention to what’s happening with my body when I’ve contracted it, and with what I know about what causes it, I’ve managed to figure out what triggers my outbreaks. I contracted a UTI once, and I did use Dr Google (but reliable websites, not forums *shudder*) and followed it up with an immediate trip to the doctor. Dr Google also helped me figure out what had caused it.

    As for your friends having pregnancy scares every month because they don’t “get” contraception… This is harsh but that’s just pathetic. There is a plethora of detailed, complete and credible information about contraception and how it works all over the Internet from numerous reliable sources, and I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t seek out that information when you start using contraception. Don’t you want to make an informed choice? Aren’t you curious about all the options and how they each work?

    There’s no excuse for not taking responsibility for yourself and your body, and no reason why you can’t, even if you only use the Internet. Just make sure you refer to reliable, credible websites!

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    • iroe

      Cassandra, I find it hard to understand that being worried about becoming pregnant at a young age is ‘pathetic’. We worry because it’s incredibly important. Even if we did know absolutely everything about it, that’s human nature.

      And I do take responsibility for my health. In fact, I wrote an honest post to Mamamia and admitted there’s more I could know! Thanks for your comment :)

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    • aleced

      Couldn’t agree more Cassandra. I am 25 and my group of friends are (and have been since school) much savvier than this girl and her friends appear to be and we went to a catholic school FFS. I am actually quite disgusted that as a modern and educated young women she hasn’t at least done her own research from reputable sources about these things. Particularly if she (or her friends) are taking the pill, it comes with a little booklet for god’s sake. It is your responsibility to know exactly what goes on or what they are putting in their bodies.
      Most of my knowledge comes from reading Dolly, Girlfriend, Cosmo and Cleo in my formative years also. I think these are invaluable resources for explaining things like menstrual cycles and STI’s and I will defend them to the death for their huge role in educating women in these matters.

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      • jem87

        Aleced, what part of dinner party manners are you struggling with? You could’ve said a large part of what you did without the disdainful & disgusted tone. Isobel has been honest enough to share her experience and while it may not resonate with you, it makes it no less valid.

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      • iroe

        Aleced, if you’ve never panicked a bit when something strange happened, never googled a symptom and know as much as your doctor does about the inner workings of your body… then I take my hat off to you!
        I certainly have. That’s all I’m saying :)

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        • JessR

          Haha… I Am a doctor and so know the drill but when things happen to me I am often shocked and sometimes disgusted despite happily dealing with other peoples gynae dramas no worries.
          Your body is the only one you get so look after it and learn as much as you can (from reliable sources) to keep yourself safe. And remember no matter how embarrassing your GP will have seen, heard and smelt worse before!

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          • Bec

            You’re a doctor, but you’re disgusted at the human body??? Ok…

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  13. Oliveblanche

    I think I only knew so much because I read dolly and girlfriend as a teen. As much as I hate the emphasis on beauty and the need to be thin ( although I don’t think they are that bad anymore??) I think they are a great source of information for young girls. I was also lucky enough to have a very nice female gp who I felt comfortable asking questions. I had the same omg I’m going to die reaction at that pain until she told me its just the egg being released and in some women they can feel it. I would love to see more sex education in schools and also health and mental health education. Not to mention social education……and by that I mean actually sitting the kids down and telling them what is ok and what is not ok in a relationship and in friendships…..would have saved me years of hanging around with nasty bfs and friends! I think we need to start well before puberty tho. Thanks for the article! Btw I wonder if maybe the reason the younger generations know less is because they are supposed to know MORE and therefore feel embarrassed asking.

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  14. zabrina28

    Great article! The first time I got thrush I seriously thought I was dying.

    Also, this website is a great alternative to ‘Doctor Google’, run by the VIC government health department: http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/ You can search conditions, symptoms, and it’ll give you reliable information. It’s now my first port of call for anything minor I’m concerned about.

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    • Anon.

      Totally agree with zabrina – this is the website that we use in our Emergency Departments – they are an excellent resource.

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    • Cassandra P

      LOVE this website. So useful.

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    • Becci

      The Vic website was the best I found after a long search online to help me find out more about the options of getting a hysterectomy because of fibroids. It also helped to talk to other (and older) women as advice from those with experience is priceless and compliments any advice from a GP. But 30 years ago the best advice was from Cleo and Cosmo (and my sisters who bought the mags!). My mum’s only advice on things ‘down there’ was when I get my period I would finally be able to swim (worked out she was pretty impressed with tampons…).

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  15. Susan As Well

    I don’t think it is all that surprising that women don’t know more than the basics about their reproductive systems.

    The women who have concerns that I speak to as a nurse are not unwilling to know but mostly find the information very complicated … because it is. Our reproductive systems run on complex hormone cycles, have a complex system of different organs and parts, change throughout our lives. It just isn’t that easy really and women can feel completely put off by all the complexities.

    In Queensland, there is a womens’ health info line run by nurses. You can ring or email them and they are truly great for helping women understand the workings of their bodies, how contraception works, when it doesn’t work, etc. I’m not sure about other states.

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  16. WillaWay

    I can understand the worry over not knowing this stuff, and the things that might contribute to it (despite how much talk goes on about sex, we don’t know our own bodies or reproductive matters very well) – BUT – is it really that hard for most average-to-above-average women to go to their local library/bookshop, assess whether a book looks like it may have been written by someone with a bit of nous about these things, and borrow/buy it? Then, even, discuss with friends, possibly, and consult until familiar?

    Kind of a pretty simple solution to one of the anxieties from the every-increasing pool of “issues” people report agonising over. In the end, it’s really not that complicated.

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  17. Gin & Tonic

    Everywoman by Derek Llewellyn-Jones was my bible on girly stuff pre computers/internet & google.

    I think it is still a fantastic resource for the basics. I plan on giving my copy to my daughter when the time comes.

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  18. Nerrida

    You know, it’s not really the point of the article, but those plastic bananas with the plastic penis inside… what was the effing point in putting a plastic penis inside? I always wanted to know.

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    • Rhi

      My Mum’s a Health teacher and said it’s so the teachers (‘normal’ ones, not ones like my Mum who couldn’t care less!) don’t get embarrassed walking down the corridors with a plastic penis in their hand!
      My Mum didn’t care though… :) She used to whip it out and tap kids on the head with it while walking around the class teaching!!!

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  19. Dkmum

    I feel so relieved to have grown up in a liberated country where sex-ed is normal, frank and plentyful.

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  20. Laura

    As an ex-pat from an all girls private school I totally agree. Sex-Ed or Life-Ed should be a core part of our schooling. The religious persuasion of a school should not automatically result in the omission of these ‘sticky’ subjects from the curriculum.

    At this same school I was told off for taking a dictionary to recess and looking up ‘sex’, ‘vagina’ and ‘orgasm’ in year 4 to a group of curious girls. So maybe the school was right, and I am just unusually curious!!

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  21. Sharon@Funken Wagnel

    I think i get where Isobel is coming from. I’m 38 and know this stuff now, but a lot of it was learned via trial and error and on an as-needed basis. Things like the first UTI or thrush infection. School taught us well about reproductive issues but some of the latter stuff I mentioned came with experience, and I think that’s pretty normal, really.

    Just like when we were trying to conceive. At first, I thought a woman ovulated on day 14-15, no questions asked. Because I needed to learn more about it at this time, I learned it wasn’t that cut and dry. I didn’t learn about fertility problems in as much depth until I needed to also.

    This was kind of how I took this article.

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  22. Guest

    I read magazines like dolly and girlfriend from about age 10 onwards. As much as I’m sure people will rubbish them (and honestly some of the articles are), this is where I learned a lot of things. My parents never spoke to me about anything but I found these magazines covered most things from drugs to health issues to sex to even what your vagina looks like (obviously not something you compare with a friend!). I was always shocked to read, even today in women’s magazines, that some women have never looked at their vagina. I would deem this necessary so you could tell if there were any changes such as an STI or even just knowing how it functions and what is where. I had HPV when I was younger. I discovered this by finding lumps just below the entrance of my vagina. Subsequently, this led to contracting CIN2, the virus that leads to cervical cancer. Luckily, it was dealt with before becoming serious. All I can say is girls, know your vagina! Know what’s normal and what’s abnormal! Just make sure you consult a professional if you’re ever unsure.

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  23. Maya Murphy

    Girl, its not someone else’s resposibility to educate yourself about “down there” (really is that what youre calling it?) try the internet again skip the dodgy forums and youre sure to find some good info eventually, also I have heard libraries are good for sourcing information in books. If you are still stuck pop in to your local GP and say I dont get it can you please explain my genitals to me? its really not all that complicated.
    Plus girls your age dont worry about pregnancy each month because they dont get it, they worry because they are young and thrive on drama.
    good luck out there.

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    • iroe

      Yes, that is what I’m calling it. To make it mamamia-friendly, and light-hearted! I’m not sure girls my age ‘like the drama’ of pregnancy scares… In fact I’m quite sure we would rather the worry never happened! But thankyou for your comment :)

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  24. Anonymous

    And you know what, there are qualified Doctors out there who are not much better at informing us adequately?
    Four years ago I had reoccurring Thrush & UTI’s after a bout of the flu. My female doctor kept sending me to the Pharmacy for those $20 per pill remedies for Thrush & telling me to ‘clean myself more throughly, not wear tight clothing & only white cotton underwear!!!!’. She was my Doctor so I took her advice, but it just kept coming back & she kept up with the same advice.
    After 5months I was nearly insane with the continual pain, exhaustion, stomach upsets & luckily went to the same Pharmacy a couple of times for the over the counter remedy my Doctor recommended & he questioned the frequency of me purchasing the pills & cream, I broke down in tears & explained how I was feeling & he went to his computer & printed off a diet for a Systemic Bacterial infection & recommended a Doctor who would look beyond my ‘obvious’ symptoms.
    We need to learn to read our bodies.
    I knew there was something wrong, but Western medicine was telling me it my all my fault.
    It took another 6months before I was really well & because the infection was so severe my body is still intolerant to several foods & penicillin, that will send the good bacteria in my body into overdrive.

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  25. Ladybug

    Isobel!!! make it your business to know. There is so much information so easily available you have no excuse to not know about your body.

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    • iroe

      I do now! But not as early as I should have.

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  26. Caz Gibson

    When my grandmother (who worked as an “upstairs ladies maid” in the early 1900′s – think “Downton Abbey”, or “Upstairs Downstairs”) was packing her bag to get married, a relative noticed she had a large carving knife in amongst her nighties & stuff and she was asked “What’s this for Rose ?” she replied “That’s to cut the baby out when it’s time to be born”……….can you imagine the fear of those women, most of whom were mistreated by their husbands ?……..Ignorance breeds fear – in all areas of life………….Mamamia, you’re doing a great job of getting the info out there……

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  27. Sarah h.

    It always scares me when I tell my boyfriend about how we learnt to put condoms of plastic bananas at my catholic girls school and he says they never learnt anything about it at his all boy school. When the girls know how to put it on, when to take it off, how to take it off, and everything in between, and the boys are taught nothing, that’s what’s scary.

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    • Michelle

      We had plastic bananas too! With plastic penises inside the banana!
      I still have no idea who invented those, but it was valuable knowledge and same here, my first boyfriend had no idea.

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  28. Leah

    When my husband and I decided it was time to start a family, I read “taking charge of your fertility”, recommend by two friends. MY.GOD. I’m a well-educated, curious 30 year old and I was utterly astounded to discover all the signs and signals my body was sending me every month. I had no idea how to read the signals my body was faithfully sending. We fell pregnant in the next cycle – if I’d relied on my scant understanding of fertility, we’d probably still be trying.

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    • Sprocket

      Hi Leah, what kind of info did the book have that you didn’t know? We’re trying for another and am curious? Thx

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      • Anonymous

        Hi sprocket, it might be common knowledge, and I was just a bit ignorant, but I had no idea that the consistency of cervical fluid indicates where you are in your cycle. I was too disorganized to remember to take my temperature to learn when I was ovulating, and after 12 years on the pill, I didn’t know what my body would do, or when. ‘Reading’ my cervical fluid taught me a lot about my cycle, and also made me respect my body a lot more (sounds a bit wanky, I know). I don’t use the term ‘discharge’ for cervical fluid anymore – it just seems ugly and negative. And who would use ‘discharge’ to describe semen?! The author is Toni Weschler. Best of luck trying for a new addition.

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        • Sprocket

          Thx for explaining & I will have a look for the book too. I have heard about checking for cervical fluid from googling but am not quite sure how to go about understanding it. Sometimes it all seems so complicated & I’m with you on trying to be organised enough to track the temps! Thx again.

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          • Anonymous

            Of all places I heard that in year 8 from a teacher teaching the girls about the rythmn method, I went to catholic school

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            • afd

              Rhythm method? I sincerely hope it wasn’t! The Catholic church endorses the Billings method these days, which involves reading the cervical mucus signs, and *not* making flawed assumptions that assume women are regular – are you or *any* of your friends as regulare as a clock? Nope, probably not. I’m not. But the cervical mucus is not just a signal, it also needs to be a certain consistency for sperm to survive in the vagina – so it *is* fertility (or lack thereof). Dr Evelyn Billings wrote a book called the Billings method, I got it from the library, then later bought it on Amazon when we were engaged and discussing contraception, and this method alone has been fully adequate both when we wanted to avoid and achieve pregnancy. It clearly gives all the information most women will ever need to know if everything’s normal around their cervix and vagina, and how fertile they are on a given day. I can highly recommend it.

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        • Daisy

          I used the Billings Method for contraception from my late 20′s through to menopause. I know it as cervical mucous and it’s easy to do. It is useful for trying to conceive but great for contraception when you’ve had enough of the pill, IUD problems etc.

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    • Guest

      Somehow I doubt that it was reading a book that got you pregnant.

      I have it on good authority that you actually have to kiss a boy as well.

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  29. Lauren

    Great article :) .

    I highly recommend the vaginapagina community on livejournal to anyone who wants advice on gynecological health, sex etc or just wants to do some reading. I’ve learned more in my time watching that community than I ever did in PE class and the people there are fantastic.

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    • iroe

      I’ll check it out, mainly because it has a hilarious name. Thanks!

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  30. G

    I went to private schools and I feel the same way as you Isobel. We had minimal sex-ed and it wasn’t until I did a few bio courses at uni later on that I began to learn the basics. I really feel like this topic warrants more than a week of lessons. So many of my friends have terrible pregnancy paranoia too!
    I loved your article, hope to see some more from you!

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  31. jb expat

    I hope you know enough to get regular pap smears and how to do a self-exam of your breasts. Such basic knowledge…and could save your life.

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  32. La Bella Figura

    Hi Isobel, knowledge is power. Book in with a lovely female doctor and ask all the questions you need answered. It will make you feel better, you will not panic all the time and you will get to know your body better to look after yourself better. I ended up reading about sex way too young from my sisters cleos and cosmo mags, grew up in a stiflingly conservative southern European catholic family and learnt froma bvery young age that if I didn’t educate myself who else could I rely on? I went to catholic school my whole life. Sex education in year 6 was great kudos to our year 6 teacher. My mum sat in stony embarassed silence the whole time, silent walking home, never took me bra shopping, when I got my period at 13 argued with me at coles not to buy tampons because my sisters never did (she just couldn’t say she didn’t want me to touch myself to insert a tampon), when it looked like someone was about to kiss on tv my parents would sigh an exclaim some profanity and turn the channel, boyfriends were not alllowed until after uni (we snuck around). It’s better now but boy did I wish I had a mum and sisters I could talk to about this stuff. I never want to be like that if I have a daughter . Please don’t feel embarassed, you ask so you learn and we all started somewhere. Bless you Cleo and cosmo! X

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  33. S.

    I’m 23, went to a public all girls school and we had the most comprehensive sex education IN THE WORLD.
    This included: studying anatomy of both sexes for weeks.
    Watching a video of a pap smear, and even more horrifically, watching a video of child birth.
    Learning about all kinds of contraceptives including the weird ones like a female condom and vaginal dam. Oh and that weird sponge.
    Putting condoms on bananas.
    Studying all STIs in grave detail…
    I could go on and on.
    While there were a few squiemish moments I think we’re all the better for knowing wee doesn’t come out of the vagina (see comments below)!!!

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    • iroe

      That’s great. That is what I missed out on… I don’t know how, and this post was so see who else did! I’m glad it wasn’t all of us, but I’m annoyed it was me.
      I am wiser now, thankfully.

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      • Mia

        Nice work getting amongst the commenters Isobel! Go you good thing. Loved your piece. You’re a funny writer.

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        • iroe

          Thank you! I’m flattered, your praise means a lot. :)

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  34. Noelle

    Sigh. So either:

    a) buy a book.

    b) find trusted sources online (ie medical journals, university websites).

    c) ask your doctor.

    It’s not very hard.

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    • Guest

      Sums it up. I am finding the intelligent articles fewer and far between, and just more inane chatter stuff to literally fill space. It is starting to show that few writers on here are highly educated or experienced writers/journos (before the inevitable response of ‘but what about x y and z, I said some certainly are. Most are not and it shows).

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      • Googler

        I’m inclined to agree. Usually I’m happy to soak up MM’s mix of info and fluff, but this article reads like a tepid blog post.

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        • Mia

          Hey Googler, we liked it. It’s good to have a diversity of voices on MM and I love a bit of Gen Y action…..

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      • Nicki

        No-one’s forcing you to read this, or any other article on MM – perhaps you have your own contribution to make for MM readers to make the site more “interesting” or whatever improvement you believe should be made….

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      • iroe

        Luckily, I am educated, an experienced writer, and a journo :)

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    • iroe

      Done all those! I was being sarcastic about the book. My ‘intelligent and educated point’ is, why did I miss out on sex/body education in my younger years?

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      • Anonymous

        Why dont you just grab a book, its not that hard… oh lord

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        • G

          Oh and you’re anonymous, surprise surprise! Gutsy.
          If you’re feeling unhappy please don’t try to make others unhappy too.

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        • freetoclaire

          I think people are missing the point a bit. I think what she is trying to say, is why are there so many people not being taught these things while young, so that by the time they are women they have no choice but to search wildly for answers. Shouldnt we be taught, by someone, when we are young how our body works properly? Some schools have comprehensive sex ed, some parents are very comfortable talking and explaining, others dont have those things at all and are a bit “left in the dark”.
          At least, thats what I took away from the article. @iroe can correct me if Im wrong :)

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          • iroe

            You got it! You also rock.

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          • Noelle

            But… nobody is ever really taught how their body works. Nobody sits down and gives you a class on what to do when you sprain your ankle or have a headache. You a) go to the doctor b) read about it c) find another trusted source.

            If we got as much info as we wanted, we’d all be doctors!

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            • missmelbourne

              I beg to differ most health and PE teachers will cover that content NOW…….when I was at school not so much and I am of the same age range as iroe. Parents should also teach their children these things as teachers aren’t actually there to bring up children in their entirety. It takes a village to raise a child….
              It’s a light hearted piece, made me laugh! Good on you Isobel. Keep it up!

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      • alyssakt

        You never mentioned your parents? I think it’s scary how many parents rely on schools for such important information.

        Teach your kids yourself. Buy them good books aimed at young people. Answer questions. When your kids learn it at school it shouldn’t be new to them!

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        • Silverdragon

          That is all very well in theory, but there are many, many parents out there who are totally ignorant of the facts and to be honest, I’d rather see this information taught in a factual and authoritative manner, rather than misinformation being promulgated further.

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  35. Sharon

    I’m 43, well educated (health science honours), very engaged in my own good health and I still don’t know everything about what goes on down there…you learn as you go. Kaz Cooke’s books are great as are Everywoman and Everygirl.

    Honestly, I’m more concerned about the commenters who know everything…rather than the author who realises she doesn’t :)

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  36. Daniela

    Google-diagnostic all the way!

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  37. Sasha

    Sex ed at my high school was pathetic. I wouldn’t know absolutely anything if it wasn’t for my hypochondria and general interest in health (and the fact that I’ve studied reproductive physiology). I definitely agree with you- awareness needs to increase!

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  38. k8e.

    it’s not me, but that’s because i take an avid interest in my own sexual health and have done courses in reproductive health at uni, but even prior to that i considered myself well-read and knowledgeable…

    A query to you, and others out there – have you never read the leaflet inside the pill packet though>??? Do you not read any of them for any other drugs you may have to take? Slightly concerning…

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    • iroe

      Don’t worry, I read the instructions! My point is why didn’t I learn sooner? I’m not as clueless as I once was.

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  39. Popsy

    A lot of commenters are overdoing the outrage. I know very little about how my heart and liver work. Why is this any more scandalous?

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    • Anonymous

      Love this!

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    • Nicki

      Well said. I suspect very few men understand their reproductive system, too – should people shame them, too?

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    • iroe

      Interesting point. It is arguably just another part of the body. There’s so much that can go on that a non-medical-person like me may never understand!

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    • Anonymous

      I agree. Most people seem so outraged by this and I can’t understand why. It took me until I was wanting to have a baby to read about fertile times of the month and other such bits and bobs about my lady parts.

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      • shan

        that’s just what I was going to say, knew the basics of how babies were made, but once conception doesn’t ‘ just happen’ you learn a lot.

        I think you often find out things only as you need to know them. but that doesnt help you when you’re at the start of a health panic!

        great piece isobel :-)

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  40. Bree

    I moved around a lot as a child, meaning I got through high school without sex-ed, but chats in the schoolyard and the help of Cleo/Dolly’s sealed section I was able to fill in the gaps.

    I sort of know how the pill works, I know all about STI’s and how to avoid them, but I do get awfully scared when it comes to waiting for my period when I start the sugar pills, and everytime I get an itch down there I immediately jump to the conclusion I have an STI (I should get checked out, but that’s also quite a scary task). But I think I’m going okay all things considering.

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    • afd

      Yeah, I had an itch, and was worried, especially since my usual GP was male. I ended up telling myself to get over it (by this time, I’d had my first child, so really, a medical specialist perhaps having to have a look ‘down there’ was a case of ‘been there, done that’!), and went and said, I feel itchy in my undies and I’m worried. He simply said, yep, probably thrush, go ask for the cream at the chemist, that should deal with it, let me know if it doesn’t. I did – it worked. No undressing outside my bedroom required. It’s never as scary as you think it’s going to be! Just get to the chemist (discuss symptoms first with GP or pharmacist if you prefer) and get it over with. You’ll feel better for knowing how easy, common and trivial the issue really can be.

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  41. Anonymous

    At 19 with my first serious boyfriend (now husband) I began suffering from severe recurrent UTI’s. Thank goodness the 3rd doctor I saw explained how important urinating after sex was. I had absolutely no idea!

    I now haven’t had one in 10 years!

    I was diagnosed with PCOS at 21 and from then took it upon myself to educate myself about fertility. We went into trying to concieve mode fully educated and thank in part to that were lucky enough to concieve very quickly.

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  42. SJ

    Try this book Isobel… http://www.vaginabuffet.com

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  43. alexandra

    I went to catholic primary and high school but found that the information we were provided with was very dated and biased. At the end of it i felt i was satisfied that i had learnt what i needed until something irregular happened and i began to freak out. Things like severe period pains, light bleeding in the middle of my cycle, clear mucus and odd lumps (which turned out to be pimples) were all things i was never told about. Not to mention what happens to your body when aroused, I never knew you got wet down there and went to the bathroom for years thinking i needed to pee when i didn’t. When i was 17, Kaz Cooke’s book Girl Stuff was given to me and changed everything. I found out things that I was too scared to ask anyone. I am now 21 and recently got her new book Women’s Stuff. I find them insightful, easy to use and honest. There are also some great websites in it as well. Of course, I am still guilty of googling anything I am unsure about. Mum has always been open to talking about things, but getting a quiet moment to talk to her when you have 3 younger siblings is almost impossible. I have told my 13 year old sister that she can borrow these books whenever she likes without asking. I would love to know more information, but I am not comfortable in getting all my information from google.

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  44. Deetmate

    Buy Kaz Cooke’s book: ‘women’s stuff’ its a wonderful book for people who need information…..
    I must admit I still am surprised how little people know about their own bodies. what ever happened to curiosity? We have a body book that my kids go to get if they want to know what a body part looks like and I answer all of their questions with age appropriate answers. I suppose I was lucky that my mother filled my brother and myself in with the information.
    Don’t use Google as a reference tool, go and buy a honest to goodness Human Anatomy text book! It’s so much more reliable!!!

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  45. oh

    Great post!

    At 20 also, I can say I have had many similar moments. I can now identify a UTI and have a pretty good idea of when I ovulate. And how did I learn? The Internet, lots and lots of it. (Downside: The most embarrassing search history)

    Obviously the same goes for relationship advice, politics, etc. Maybe it’s just our generation, or perhaps some of us are just highly tech-reliant people.

    Changing attitudes means that yes, perhaps parents are more open, but the downside is that because of the internet, we’re expected to know things and parents get to avoid embarrassing topics. (When I once asked my mum about why my dog’s bits were, erm, protruding, she told me to ‘google it’.)

    Schools have a lot of programs, but (depending on your level of maturity, so I’m generalising) you don’t always quite piece it all together while you’re in school. People brought up in religious backgrounds (guilty as charged) can miss out by just feeling unsupported to such ‘taboo’ topics (sounds absurd, but real for some). No upbringing is perfect.

    So really, this post is not ridiculous at all, just from a different perspective!

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  46. Chelsea!

    Wow, i find that kind of strange actually. I’m 19, and recently started the pill and know exactly how it’s working and what’s going on down there. Maybe it’s cause both my primary and secondary schools had fantastic sex ed, and also cause I’ve had problems with my cycles, so have done my own research (including my doctor I might add!). I don’t think it’s your fault that you don’t understand these things, but at 20 I’m surprised you haven’t searched around…

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    • iroe

      I have. I know these things now! But it took the problems to occur before I knew about them.

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  47. Lauren

    Honestly I think you drew the short straw with your sex ed. We were taught plenty and I personally feel that if you are old enough to be using the pill then you should probably be responsible and find out what it means for your body and the possible side effects. As far a forums are concerned if you find a good one you can gain wisdom from the experiences of others but talking to a health/nurse or doctor is really not that difficult.

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  48. Melissa

    Obviously the best source of information about your body Is from a professional. But for discussions about reproductive issues you cannot go past the many many women undergoing IVF and other Assisted Reproductive Therapies. These brave women have collectively undergone every test related to and read every piece of research on the subject of fertility and women’s health. They were a source of great knowledge and support during my own IVF journey

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  49. Sammy

    I think this is unusual?

    My friends and I all know a lot about our bodies, cycles etc. Most of us got Everygirl and / or Everywoman in around year 6, those books are great.

    I must say that my knowledge increased a lot more even, a few years back, in my early 20s, when my childbearing years started! Now even my husband knows lots about the cervix, uterus etc!

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  50. LJ

    Good grief! I must have been one of the lucky ones. My mum taught me all about it and that and everything in-between. My dad taught me about men! I had a little top up information at high school, but I feel very confident I will be able to tell my children about it and that and everything in-between :)

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